Strong E/NE swell for SE Qld and Northern NSW; plenty of additional swells to follow

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

South-east Queensland and Northern NSW Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Monday 21st October)

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Best DaysTues/Wed/Thurs: strong E/NE swell building Tues, peaking Wed AM, same time winds will go more S'ly, then easing Thurs. Strong, unreal waves on the points. Thurs/Fri: building S'ly swell across Northern NSW. Sat/Sun: small lingering trade swell in SE Qld, easing S/SE swell early Sat then building S'ly groundswell later Sun

Recap: Small, slowly building E/NE swell across SE Qld all weekend along with a mix of S’ly quadrant swells in Northern NSW - some trailing S/SE swell early Saturday morning, before a solid long period south swell pushed up Sunday afternoon, holding into today with sets around the 3ft mark at reliable south swell magnets south of Byron. The E/NE swell has built a little more slowly than expected, but reached 2-3ft yesterday afternoon and much of today with surf size now starting to muscle up a little more. Winds have been light in the mornings in most areas with afternoon sea breezes in parts. 

This week (Nov 22nd - 25th)

Essentially, the E/NE swell from the Coral Sea trough/depression has been pushed back a half to one day or so.

Which means we’re looking at a Wednesday morning peak across SE Qld and Far Northern NSW, with late Wednesday seeing a slightly smaller peak from this source across the Mid North Coast. 

There’s no change to the size outlook; exposed beaches should see building surf through Tuesday, peaking at a solid 5-6ft at the height of the swell on Wednesday from the Sunshine Coast down to about Ballina or Yamba. South from Coffs we’re looking at a slightly smaller peak around 4-5ft+, owing to the alignment of the fetch which will be mainly focused into SE Qld.

As for local winds, the predominantly E’ly pattern of the last few days will swing S/SE on Wednesday (maybe even a brief window of light SW winds in a few spots) as the trough drops south of our latitude. So expect similar conditions on Tuesday as per this afternoon, with the peak of the swell coinciding with excellent conditions for the regional points. 

This swell event will then ease steadily through the rest of the week. 

Also in the water on Tuesday across Northern NSW’s south facing beaches (south of Byron) is another pulse of S’ly groundswell - this time a little more S/SE in reaction - originating from a secondary fetch around the bottom of the same Southern Ocean low that generated yesterday’s pulse. This new energy reached Sydney around lunchtime today with inconsistent 3ft+ sets and a similar size range is expected through Tuesday south of Byron.

As for the second half of the week - we have a couple of sources of new swell.

First up - a modest, stationary fetch of trades S/SE of Fiji will maintain small E’ly swell in the mix, right through the weekend too. No great size is expected but in the event our other swell windows dry up (which is unlikely) it’ll keep exposed beaches from becoming flat. 

A stalled trough across Southern NSW on Wednesday is expected to form a surface low in the Central/Southern Tasman Sea, driving southerly gales along the NSW coast and generating a solid south swell for Thursday

Initially, we’ll see building short range energy that will only favour south swell magnets into the afternoon - but they’ll be blown out by the accompanying wind (however, southern corners will be clean, and they’ll also pick up some the leftover, easing E/NE swell). We can expect early 3-4ft sets across most coasts early on Thursday morning - including SE Qld - before it drops to 2-3ft throughout the day. The points will offer the best conditions under these gusty conditions though dawn session should see light SW winds north of the border prior to the arrival of the change.

The afternoon’s swell increase will precede a better, longer period S’ly groundswell building throughout Friday, peaking into the late afternoon, originating form the parent Tasman low. This should provide 4-5ft sets at south facing beaches by the end of the day (south of Byron) though the morning may see a smaller period between swells. 

Friday's S/SE swell will be considerably smaller across SE Qld and we’ll also have some small leftover E/NE swell in the mix, probably a couple of feet at exposed beaches to keep surfers occupied for the last day of the working week. Expect early light SW winds tending moderate S/SE throughout the day at most coasts. 

This weekend (Nov 26th - 27th)

Friday’s mix of southerly swells will ease into Saturday, and winds are expected to return back to the north.

Early morning should see light NW winds and with some luck there’ll still be the odd 3-4ft+ set in the Far North (smaller south of Coffs as it’ll be drying up from here). Easing size is expected throughout the day though a small new S’ly swell - originating from a front pushing through the lower Tasman Sea on Friday - will probably arrest the easing trend and keep south facing beaches south of Byron around 3ft into the afternoon

A small mix of E’ly and S/SE swells will probably hover around the 2ft mark at most SE Qld beaches on Saturday, with early light winds and sea breezes. 

On Sunday, a stronger southerly swell originating from the parent low to Friday’s front through the lower Tasman Sea will push up the coast, peaking late in the day and into Monday. Based on current model guidance we should be looking at solid 5-6ft sets at south swell magnets south of Byron, but it’s still along time away and will require close scrutiny over the coming days. The good news is that a shallow S’ly change is expected to push up the coast concurrently and should favour the semi-exposed points for clean conditions.

SE Qld won’t pick up anywhere near as much size from this south swell but there should be good late 3ft+ sets at reliable south swell magnets, right on dark. The outer points will be very, very small from this source with extremely inconsistent 1-2ft runners however the aforementioned distant E’ly swell should keep the open beaches more consistent with a similarly small trade energy. 

Next week (Nov 28th onwards)

Looks like more Southern Ocean activity will continue through next week, maintaining plenty of strong southerly swell across Northern NSW for the foreseeable future.

See you Wednesday!

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thermalben Monday, 21 Nov 2016 at 6:07pm

Plenty of lines at Snapper this afternoon, shame about the onshore wobble.

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no-eye-deer Monday, 21 Nov 2016 at 7:19pm

Thanks as always Ben, I hope you've been getting a few for yourself. I had a couple of hours in the water out front of the Swellnet office today, got some really fun ones.

Psyched for the rest of the week now!

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thermalben Monday, 21 Nov 2016 at 8:11pm

Looked fun out there.. the boys in the office next door reckon it pulsed nicely late inthe day.

Haven't surfed locally since last weekend, was in a Sydney last week and scored some good waves down there, but the weekend just gone (once I got home) didn't line up with the family timetable. Looking forward to the next few days though! 

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lostdoggy Monday, 21 Nov 2016 at 6:58pm

Surfed a 2-3ft beachy this arvo. Got hammered on the bank a few times. Real punchy.

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udo Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 7:07am

Few bumpy ones at Snapper and Burleigh this morn.

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Umunga Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 8:26am

Beaches a mess, this morning. sort of a point I surfed chest high slop.

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thermalben Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 8:37am

Super fun 3ft sets on the Tweed this morning with the odd bigger one.

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thermalben Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 10:15am

Well overhead at Snapper now (take a look at the bloke at the bottom of the whitewater).

Lovely lines at Noosa too.

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Umunga Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 11:39am

To me a 4ft wave is a solid wave i checked a beach that couldn't be any more open, a bay, and surfed a soft point, unless its picked up a bit since 06:30 I didn't see one 4ft wave maybe struggling to call it 3ft where they getting 4ft on the SC

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thermalben Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 11:42am

Open up my Snapper image above in a new browser window (linked below). That bloke is sitting at the bottom of an easy 4ft wave IMO.

http://i.imgur.com/jJA71mt.jpg

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waxyfeet Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 12:31pm

3 to 4 foot, odd 5ft bomb, barrels, reo’s for days, twins in g-bangs, drop ins and warm water.

Great day at Noosa / Boiling pot

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Umunga Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 2:21pm

Maybe on the GC Ben but not here on the SC, believe me I hunted most spots, I think some people use the figure 4-5ft to loosely.
5ft on a beach is a good solid wave and you know it when you paddle out, as any experienced person would know

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thermalben Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 2:25pm

Buoy data at Mooloolaba is slightly bigger than the Goldy and Tweed Coast, so I'm surprised you're not seeing much size up there.

Anyway, it's still building - not due to peak for another 18+ hours - so there's plenty of time to go.

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Umunga Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 4:22pm

Yep it's a slower burner, Mooloolaba wave bouy heading in the right direction.
Let's hope the wind allows the beach to open up Wednesday or Thursday

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waxyfeet Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 2:36pm

Congrats on the internet man-points Umaga. 25 years experience growing up on a world class point break, I feel more than qualified to call a 4/5 foot wave exactly that.

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Umunga Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 5:22pm

Wasn't pointing the finger at you waxy

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waxyfeet Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 at 11:04am

Sorry, thought you were having a dig :)

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_benno Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 12:26pm

Yeah no 4fters where I surfed on the S Coast early, or even around the corner on the very exposed stretch. I was surprised at the lack of punch.

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freeride76 Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 11:53am

funky, lumpy inconsistent 2-4ft down here.
Long wait for the sets but they are there.

Whats interesting is that almost 6 months after the June black nor-easter most of the points here are still totally denuded of sand.
I surfed a point that is usually a soft wave, it was more like a south coast slab. Just breaking on bare rock.

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groovie Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 12:35pm

Nothing happening here on the Mid Nth coast, 2ft of onshore slop so far! What are the winds looking like for Wed & when can we expect this Nor/ east swell to fill in Ben??

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thermalben Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 1:18pm

No changes to the above forecast. Swell will start showing down there later today and will build further through Wednesday, peaking late in the day. 

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bruzzz Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 1:01pm

shitty banks on the goldy points

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thermalben Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 1:19pm

Swell direction isn't great for the points unless the sand is primo. 

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bruzzz Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 9:42pm

True... last season was unreal.

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lostdoggy Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 1:37pm

I'm not one to whinge about rain after a drought.

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freeride76 Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 1:38pm

Disagree.
ENE is prime for just about every point break from Noosa to Angas.

Bit square for the Ballina points but prime for all the rest.

It really underscores the importance of sand for good waves in this part of the world. Out of all the factors that determines good surf here I'd put inshore bathymetry number one with daylight second.

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thermalben Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 1:42pm

My comment was relative to the Goldy points, and I still believe that they're all best under an E/SE or SE swell direction. 

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thermalben Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 2:24pm

Lines, lines, lines at Snapper. 'Tis slowly getting bigger.

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NickT Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 9:27pm

"Its the lemon next to the pie.... its gonna get bigger"

10 points to the person who can name the correct movie

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Nick Bone Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 at 12:53pm

The best surf movie of them all. Fuck kai neville. Big wednesday for days please

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freeride76 Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 3:15pm

Felt pretty sketchy out there with just one other bloke today. Looks like I was right to keep my legs up.

NSWDPI shark team tagged and released 2.91m F White Shark off Boulders Headland, Ballina using SMART Drumline technology - Shark #64

Sigh....I thought these things had fucked off south with the whales.

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crg Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 7:19pm

Agree with the sand since the NE swell...still terrible set ups here along Suffolk stretch...swells just junking through onto a super shallow closeout bank. Got a few off a ripbowl mid tide until I got a little fin chop on my ankle...didn't feel to be bleeding out there by myself at that quality.

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_benno Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 at 7:17pm

Models have slightly pegged back the size of tomorrow's peak?

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Sprout Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 at 7:57am

4-5ft on the bigger ones, struggle to find a decent shoulder though mostly a mess

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thermalben Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 at 8:34am

Nice conditions early but this swell direction is only good the beachies on the Tweed and there's a little too much water moving around. Watched for a bit but looked like a lot of hard work (spoke to a few crew who came in who confirmed). Bugger too as it's so good to have some decent swell across the coast.

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freeride76 Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 at 9:06am

took a punt on a piece of sand I knew about and scored big time.

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Craig Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 at 9:12am

Love that shit!

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thermalben Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 at 11:09am

Nothing of any great substance across most of the Tweed this morning, but ended up scoring some fun waves out the front of the office. Solid 4-5ft sets through the lineup, and a couple of bigger sneakers pushing 5-6ft at the reef well offshore (not surfable though). The good ones were a little all over the place and hard to jag, but super fun if you got on to a bomb. 

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thermalben Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 at 11:16am

Buoy data suggests we still haven't quite reached the peak of this swell yet.

Interestingly, the Tweed buoy is reporting the lowest Hsig values across the region.




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thermalben Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 at 12:00pm

Lotta crew at Noosa, surprise surprise.

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thermalben Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 at 12:10pm

Kirra!

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the chase Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 at 12:36pm

I drove down took forever to find a carpark. i watched snapper and kirra for a while.It did look really fun. Couldn't bring my self to paddel out just the size off the crowd. Shit there were people every where.

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thermalben Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 at 1:56pm

Twenty seconds from Snapper Rocks (in sequence):




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freeride76 Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 at 2:04pm

looks mushy and wide.... can anyone who surfed it confirm or deny?

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mbl88 Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 at 2:36pm

little bit better then it looks but not by much though

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Booka78 Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 at 2:06pm

Points seem to be breaking wide with this swell direction, surfed Currumbin early was fun but a bit full therefore lacking wall to generate power & length of ride was a bit short....but hey there's waves! woohoo

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thermalben Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 at 2:09pm

E/NE swell starting to show strong in Coffs now, from our Park Beach surfcam.

https://www.swellnet.com/surfcams/park-beach

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crg Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 at 2:48pm

Can't believe these words are coming out of my mouth but had a super fun relatively uncrowded session at the Pass...

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freeride76 Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 at 2:55pm

thinking about taking my daughter up there for a surf this arvo

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donweather Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 at 3:41pm

Solid 5ft sets this morning where I surfed but it was hard work with the sand no good creating more sectiony waves. A lot of water moving around meant tough paddling also. Cracking day but certainly not as good wave wise as I was hoping for. Oh well there's always next time.

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Hastoes Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 at 4:52pm

Threw some smaller thrusters in the board that id been riding with a quad setup. Surfed a spot i hadn't surfed for 6 months . Only a max of 16 people at any one time out. Sick waves! A bit of a challenge around the incoming tide as it closed out the bay on the sets, but if you were patient enough, you'd score the odd ripper!! yew!! Back to work tomorrow