Strong south swells for Northern NSW, and windows of good winds

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

South-east Queensland and Northern NSW Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Wednesday 5th October)

Best Days: Thurs/Fri: several strong south swells across Northern NSW (tiny in SE Qld), though Thurs will see a space of time between pulses (early down south, later up north). Best conditions in the mornings. Sat: easing S'ly swell across Northern NSW (tiny in SE Qld) with offshore winds. 

Recap: Tiny surf across most coasts on Tuesday, though a handful of south facing beaches in Far Northern NSW (between Coffs and Byron) picked up a small spread of south swell. This swell eased overnight, leaving most beaches almost flat this morning. However a new S’ly swell is building across the Mid North Coast (3-4ft sets) and should nose into the Far North Coast later today. 


New lines of S'ly swell at Coffs Harbour around 4pm this afternoon

This week (Oct 6th - Oct 7th)

We’ve got a complex week of multiple south swells ahead. 

But in short for SE Qld surfers - there are no signs of any major break in the unfavourable storm track. It’s likely that the current tiny conditions will persist through the rest of this week, the weekend and all of next week. Maybe next weekend and early in the following week too.

Anyway, the current south swell moving up the coast is expected to peak overnight across the Mid North Coast, and probably early morning across the Far North Coast.

Wave heights across the Southern NSW coast have come in marginally higher than forecast: 3-4ft across Sydney’s south facing beaches and 5-6ft across the Hunter. However I still fee pretty confident with Monday's estimate, that the Northern NSW coast’s south facing beaches (south of Byron) will see 3-4ft+ sets from this swell at its peak - though this will probably occur overnight south of Coffs so expect the easing trend to kick in before dawn. Expect smaller surf at beaches not completely open to the south.

Across SE Qld, this swell really won’t make any impact at most Gold and Sunshine Coast stretches however the region’s handful of exposed south swell magnets should pick up a few stray 2ft sets. Expect much smaller surf everywhere else.

Conditions should be pretty clean in all areas with early light offshore winds ahead of an afternoon sea breeze. 

Following this morning event, we have several new pulses of south swell due over the coming 36 hours, courtesy of a vigorous front and low passing across Tasmanian longitudes. Maatsuyker Island - off the southern tip of Tasmania - this afternoon recorded a north-west wind gust of 86 kts (159km/hr).

The first swell expected to push through Southern NSW on Thursday morning, and should reach the Mid North Coast during the afternoon, arresting the easing trend and providing a kick back up into the 3-4ft+ range at south facing beaches for the late session. This swell will be generated by strong to gale force W/SW winds exiting eastern Bass Strait tonight.

I’m not confident of the timing of this pulse across the Far North Coast; it’s possible we’ll see some movement before the end of the day but we’ll have to watch the obs further south to assess the trend.

Long period energy from the parent low (tracking below Tasmania) will trail behind, and with core winds in excess of 50kts, we should see peak swell periods reaching 17-18 seconds as the energy glances the Northern NSW coast. The leading edge is due to reach the Mid North Coast before dawn on Friday, before pushing north to the Far North Coast, probably arriving in the Ballina/Byron region around mid-late morning. A peak in size is then expected through Friday afternoon

The models are not picking up this swell very well at all, and I think we’re going to see bigger surf than our graphs are showing. Most of Northern NSW’s reliable south facing beaches should see 3-5ft sets as the swell peaks throughout Friday (smaller at dawn in the Far North) but because of the large swell periods, we’ll see surf size magnified considerably at offshore bombies and a couple of exposed swell magnets. 

However, beaches not open to the south will be much smaller.

You’ll also have to make the most of the early W’ly winds as they’ll veer NW during the morning and then N’ly by lunchtime, becoming fresh into the afternoon. Northern corners will show the best conditions through the afternoon but conditions may be somewhat unruly at these locations with the long period southerly energy, so it could be challenging finding any decent options after lunch.    

This weekend (Oct 8th - Oct 9th)

Saturday looks really good for Northern NSW. We’ll see easing S’ly swell from Friday, maybe some 3ft+ sets at south facing beaches (south of Byron) early - smaller elsewhere - and winds should hold from the W/NW all day as a southerly change moves up the Southern NSW coast. It may clip the lower Mid North Coast late in the day but everywhere else should be nice and clean.

Don’t expect much size in SE Qld, only south swell magnets will see small leftover energy from Friday. Everywhere else will be tiny. 

The southerly change will result in average conditions across northern locations into Sunday morning as winds freshen from the SE as a ridge builds across the coast. We should see a small increase in short range windswell across SE Qld though I can’t see there being anything of major benefit. 

A new S’ly swell generated by the parent low to Sunday's change (located south of Tasmania) is expected to build throughout the afternoon across the Mid North Coast. Early size will be small but the afternoon could see some late 3ft+ sets. Winds should be lighter south of about Yamba too so conditions should be OK across the Mid North Coast (maybe some leftover wobble from Saturday's late change). 

So at this stage, aim for a surf on Saturday across Northern NSW and make it early for the most size. 

Next week (Oct 10th onwards)

Strengthening N’ly winds on Monday will generally wipe out surf conditions across most coasts. We will see plenty of south swell generated by the weekend’s low/front south of Tasmania, but only south swell magnets will pick up any notable size (inconsistent 2-3ft sets at swell magnets, easing during the day). 

A small N’ly windswell may also build across the Northern NSW coast but no great size or quality is expected. 

Monday's strengthening winds will be associated with yet another intense mid-latitude low pressure system crossing the SE corner of the country. It’ll bring a NW tending SW change to the region on Tuesday but it’s hard to see any great surf through the first part of the week at this stage. 

As the low tracks below Tasmania on Monday, it’ll eventually push into our south swell window, generating a solid south swell from Wednesday onwards. In fact, the eastwards passage of this system looks like it’ll clear the floodgates for a succession of meridionally aligned surface fronts that should generate a series of solid south swells through the rest of the week and the weekend. Surf size could easily push the 6ft mark from either of these sources (at Northern NSW south swell magnets) though we'll have to take a closer look on Friday with the latest model guidance. 

So, there’s plenty of swell to look forward to in the long term period, but for now we've got much more important swells due in the next few days.

See you Friday!

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Sprout Wednesday, 5 Oct 2016 at 6:29pm

FML

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Brownhound Wednesday, 5 Oct 2016 at 6:45pm

Awesome report Ben.Cheers mate!

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dangerouskook2000 Wednesday, 5 Oct 2016 at 7:38pm

checked it this arve. not here as of 17.40. Probably arrive later tonight i'd say

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_benno Wednesday, 5 Oct 2016 at 7:41pm

Gee I hope those 'stray 2ft sets' actually stray in tomorrow. A bloke can't continue to live like this.

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tripper Wednesday, 5 Oct 2016 at 8:40pm

Bah!!! A Webber Wave Pool would go in handy right now... what ever happened to that? Sunny Coast was supposed to get one yeah?

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_benno Thursday, 6 Oct 2016 at 7:41am

Cracking sunrise, still nothing rideable up this way.

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thermalben Thursday, 6 Oct 2016 at 8:29am

Some baby waves bending into the Caloundra Bar, with one SUP enjoying the peak on his own. Shame it's only half to one foot max.

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thermalben Thursday, 6 Oct 2016 at 8:34am

On the other hand, D'Bah is picking up shoulder high sets. 

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thermalben Thursday, 6 Oct 2016 at 8:41am

Super fun lil' peelers!

Though it seems it's rather competitive...


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thermalben Thursday, 6 Oct 2016 at 9:03am

And.. let's all for a minute just remember where this south swell originated from.

W/SW gales exiting eastern Bass Strait. 

That's right - pointing away from the Australian mainland. 

'Bout 1,100km south of the border too.

Amazing, eh?

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waxyfeet Thursday, 6 Oct 2016 at 9:40am

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surfiebum Thursday, 6 Oct 2016 at 9:58am

Only waves on the sunny coast are from the whales jumping...

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thermalben Thursday, 6 Oct 2016 at 11:38am

Still a few small waves at D'Bah though it appears that brief pulse is now easing.


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thermalben Thursday, 6 Oct 2016 at 11:53am

Still showing 2-3ft sets in Coffs too.

This swell us likely to continue easing here all day: the new S'ly swell hasn't showed across Sydney beaches so it's possible we may have to wait until Friday morning for the next pulse.


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thermalben Thursday, 6 Oct 2016 at 5:08pm

Here's a curveball for y'all.

Southern NSW is yet to pick up the first of the two new south swells. However, Coffs Harbour looks like it is already - wave heights are a little bigger than this morning, and the sets are quite punchy and consistent (inline with the upwards phase of a fresh swell).

After reviewing the ASCAT data this morning, such a trend isn't a surprise (I'll detail more later this evening) but for now - I'm curious on any other obs up and down the Northern NSW coast.





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_benno Thursday, 6 Oct 2016 at 8:05pm

Any chance one or some of these pulses might be more favourably aligned for SE Qld Ben?

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waxyfeet Thursday, 6 Oct 2016 at 8:36pm

Wishful thinking :p

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rees0 Thursday, 6 Oct 2016 at 9:12pm

http://actve.com.au. Wont need swell on the sunny coast soon.

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CutbackBretto Friday, 7 Oct 2016 at 9:36am

Is there any info on this?

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thermalben Friday, 7 Oct 2016 at 8:25am

Very clean, well defined southerly swell lines in Coffs Harbour this AM. Seems to be about the same size as late yesterday though the sets are much less consistent and there's often just one or two waves in every set. 

Surf size is still building across Southern NSW right now so we won't see a peak across Northern NSW until the afternoon.

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Nakiboi Friday, 7 Oct 2016 at 10:01am

I've been on the goldie for a few years now and this is defiantly the worst I've seen it, surely something goods brewing, anyway but of a kook question maybe but why when the warm northly winds come the water gets so bloody cold? It's colder than its been all winter. Cheers for the forecast Ben always look forward to reading it.

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thermalben Friday, 7 Oct 2016 at 10:04am

Thanks for the nice words mate.

Re: water temps - check this article (written more than ten years ago!). Only difference between Sydney and Goldy is that the Goldy needs a little more north in the wind direction (as you noted) due to the coastal alignment.

https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-analysis/2006/07/03/why-does-wate... 

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Sprout Friday, 7 Oct 2016 at 12:47pm

Regardless of the accuracy of this, would this be more, less or on average for a season in the Eastern Region?
https://higginsstormchasing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/AUS-Cyclone-O...

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thermalben Friday, 7 Oct 2016 at 1:08pm

Those guys may have got an early copy of the BOM's seasonal forecast (which is due to be released soon).

As for seasonal trends: "On average 4.7 tropical cyclones per year affect the Queensland Tropical Cyclone Warning Centre Area of Responsibility."

http://www.bom.gov.au/cyclone/about/eastern.shtml

So the prediction for five is slightly above average. 

But.. that doesn't have any relationship with surf potential.

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Sprout Friday, 7 Oct 2016 at 2:49pm

Awesome, thanks for that. Love your work mate. Best forecast going.

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freeride76 Friday, 7 Oct 2016 at 1:10pm

exactly

Last summer with hardly any in the AOR we had an amazing summer from mostly long range South Pac systems.

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donweather Friday, 7 Oct 2016 at 2:01pm

If La Nina comes to fruition you'd think we'd get more in the Coral Sea this coming season wouldn't you?

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thermalben Friday, 7 Oct 2016 at 2:08pm

Personally, I don't think it's a La Nina = x or El Nino = y or Neutral = z, but more so that the possible number of cyclones and the broader synoptic patterns are related to the transitional phase and strength between atmospheric cycles.

Plus influences from other ocean basins too, which can disrupt circulation patterns.

So sometimes this means the trend goes against common beliefs (such as La Nina = more TCs in the Coral Sea).

I don't have any hard data, it's just a hunch. Would love to do some more study on it though.

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Umunga Friday, 7 Oct 2016 at 5:35pm

La Niña = cooler water over by the US hence warm water pools in the west pacific, West pacific warm water pool, the cycle is called The Walker cell, La Niña strong trade winds east to west, warm sea temperatures prone to induce cyclones
Decent trade wind swell are better than cyclone swells they last longer and are more managble but enything will do

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thermalben Friday, 7 Oct 2016 at 5:40pm

Yeah, but the problem with strong La Nina patterns is that surface winds are quite strong, which inhibits TC development.

I agree 100% though - trade swells are (on the balance) much better than cyclone swells.

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Umunga Friday, 7 Oct 2016 at 5:50pm

Cheers Ben

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Umunga Friday, 7 Oct 2016 at 5:58pm

I think I read somewhere that we are not going to have a strong La Niña it will fall more neutral towards the end of the year
But currently La Niña watch
The most consistent and decent size swell in recent years on the sunny coast for me would have been summer to autum 2014/2015 pumping 3-4 ft nearly every week for almost 3 months