All aboard the incoming easterly swell trains

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

South East Queensland and Northern New South Wales Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Friday 22nd January)

Best DaysSat: building E'ly swell with winds tending NW (late a'noon S'ly change on Mid North Coast). May see late variable trend in Far Northern NSW and SE Qld. Sun/Mon: strong combo of inconsistent E'ly swell and building short range S/SE swell, with S'ly tending SE winds - best on the outer points. Tues: Easing E'ly and S/SE tending SE swells with abating winds, mainly SW tending SE. Wed: chance for another large E'ly groundswell with light winds. Thurs: easing E'ly swells with winds tending N'ly. 

Recap: A small E’ly groundswell has begun to make its presence felt across all coasts since Thursday morning, but we’re yet to see any notable size (biggest reported waves have been around 2ft+). Northerly winds have generally hampered surfing opportunities at open beaches though there have been periods of NW winds in some areas. 

This weekend (Jan 23rd - 24th)

Probably the most difficult thing about long range east swells is that we have no way of monitoring their status. 

Unlike southerly swells, which move up the NSW coast and can be tracked via wave buoys, surfcams and human observations, we have no knowledge about easterly swells until they actually arrive. The eastern-most wave buoy (MHL’s Byron buoy - ironically, positioned off Ballina - is a whisker further east than DSITI’s Brisbane buoy, which is east of the north-eastern top of Stradbroke Island) is only 7.5km off the coast. So for a swell exhibiting a period of about 15 seconds, it takes around ten minutes to pass through the buoy and then reach the mainland. 

Therefore, with most wave buoys updating their data feeds to the internet every couple of hours, we’re much more likely to see new energy on the surfcams before the buoy web pages show a kick in size or period on their graphs.

What this all means is that I’m no wiser as to how the weekend’s easterly swell will play out. Without a wave buoy well off the coast to confirm the size, period, timing and direction of the incoming energy, I can only go off the model guidance and assess this against the verified surface wind fields (from satellite observations) so see whether the responsible fetch was on track. We did this last Wednesday, and it all looked pretty good. 

At the moment the wave model guidance is a little high compared to buoy observations, but these kinds of events are typically slow to build, and even slower to ease, so I'm not that fussed.

What compounds the problem is the sheer inconsistency of the swell, which is a byproduct of the enormous travel distance. You really won’t find a much more inconsistent swell event than the episode unfolding across our coast right now - swells that develop further east than where STC Victor did most of its work are very rare, and the responsible weather systems usually lack all of the other favourable attributes that we’ve seen over the last week (storm track, forward speed, supporting high pressure ridge, broad core fetch, duration). 

So let’s get to the nitty gritty.

We can safely apply the same easterly swell forecast to all coasts for the next few days, because of its source location. And the outlook is for an extremely inconsistent event all weekend, building slowly through Saturday and further into Sunday, with a peak expected on Monday.

In fact, we’re looking at multiple overlapping swell trains over the next few days. This is most easily observed via the swell periods, which jump up several times between Saturday and (see right). So, expect very lully conditions for the most part - maybe twenty minutes between the bigger waves - but occasionally, it could become active for short bursts as several swell trains all arrive concurrently.

Size wise? Somewhere between 3-4ft at exposed beaches on Saturday, then 3-5ft on Sunday, with smaller surf running down the length of the various points.

Due to the considerably core fetch within the system a few days ago, I think some of the region’s more reliable swell magnets - mainly Northern NSW - could see bigger rogue sets in the 6ft+ range but this will certainly be the exception rather than the rule.

And let me emphasise just one more time time about how inconsistent it’s going to be. 

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What will dictate your surfing choice this weekend will be the local winds. Now that we’re a little closer to D-Day, we can fine tune the timing of this trough that’s going to disrupt the northerly regime. 

Saturday will be characterised by freshening N’ly tending NW winds, with a gusty S'ly change approaching from the south throughout the afternoon. Overnight N’lies tonight may in fact generate a secondary NE windswell for exposed north-facing beaches in Northern NSW. 

The S’ly change has been stalled a little in the latest model runs, and is now not due into the Mid North Coast until mid-late afternoon, reaching the border a few hours before dawn on Sunday

Saturday afternoon may see a period of lighter, more variable winds in Far Northern NSW and SE Qld as the trough approaches but for the most part Saturday will be beach breaks only, preferably those offering some protection from the north. 

The S’ly change is still hard to pick as to how far north it’ll penetrate. The latest guidance suggests it may only just nose into the southern Sunshine Coast during Sunday morning, so we’re 50/50 as to whether that region will feel the effects of the change. In any case the northerly should cease by this time, which is a good thing.

The strength and orientation of the trailing fetch has also moved around since Wednesday's notes; now lighter in strength and more SE through Sunday afternoon. As such I’m not expecting as much windswell in the water from this source (that’s a good thing for most spots too). 

Nevertheless, Sunday should offer good waves at Northern NSW’s semi-exposed points, and across the SE Qld outer points - though once again just remember that there’ll be very long breaks between the sets. South of Yamba, we may even see early SW winds across the Mid North Coast before moderate S/SE winds kick in from mid-late morning onwards.

Next week (Jan 25th onwards)

The long range E’ly swell should hold through Monday in the 3-5ft range at exposed beaches - smaller everywhere else as detailed above, but with a chance for occasional rogue 6ft+ sets at some reliable swell magnets in Northern NSW - before easing into Tuesday

An easing pressure gradient should allow for early light SW winds in most areas, tending moderate SE throughout the day. Once again the outer points should provide the best waves. 

Easing swells and similarly light winds are then expected on Tuesday.

But - and here’s a curveball for ya - some of the latest model output now has TC Victor intensifying rapidly just north of New Zealand on Sunday as the system becomes fully extratropical. At this stage we’re looking at surface winds of 50kts+ in a favourably aligned part of our swell window, with a slight westward push. Hard to believe, but that's what's on the charts, and seems quite plausible too given the blocking pattern upstream. 

I’m nervous about giving this secondary episode too much emphasis, but right now it’s hard not to see the potential for some serious 5-6ft+ surf across a slightly broader swathe of the coast arriving on Wednesday. By that, I mean rather than the bigger sets restricted to a handful swell magnets (as I’m expecting this Sunday/Monday), most open coasts in Northern NSW could be looking at a more uniform size distribution - however slightly smaller surf is possible throughout the Gold and Sunshine Coasts (away from the swell magnets) due to the slight south-east of east swell direction. 

This pulse is not showing on the charts right now (should update in the next few hours) and I’ll assess the model updates over the weekend. But in short - there’s plenty of life left in Victor and it’s likely that we’ll see continuing E’ly swell not just through until next Thursday (as suggested over the last week of forecast notes) but maybe even Friday or Saturday, depending how long its remnants linger above New Zealand. 

As for local winds - Wednesday should see similar light variable/sea breeze conditions in most coasts but Thursday will probably herald the return of a fresh spell of northerlies. Let’s take a closer look on Monday.

‘Till then, have a great weekend.

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thermalben Friday, 22 Jan 2016 at 4:39pm

OK, here's my latest notes. Anyone seeing anything of substance at the coast yet?

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shoredump Friday, 22 Jan 2016 at 5:11pm

I flew out of Lord Howe this arvo, there was definately a defined swell in the water, I tried taking a pic of it to post but it didn't show up on the phone. Wasn't substantial yet

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Blowin Friday, 22 Jan 2016 at 9:21pm

Good fun out there ?

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shoredump Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 5:54am

Yeah Blowin, it's a pristine environment out there. It's pretty small with quality options on the two main sides. Not world class, but still very good on their day. Northerly winds yesterday so the reef was clean and picking up that little south swell.

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thermalben Friday, 22 Jan 2016 at 5:22pm

Wasn't much on the Tweed just then.

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mcsc Friday, 22 Jan 2016 at 5:43pm

Nothing of note on the Sunshine Coast as of now. Just an occasional, very inconsistent straight line of 2ft east

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wellymon Friday, 22 Jan 2016 at 6:04pm

You covered all angles again Ben....
Thanx

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no-eye-deer Friday, 22 Jan 2016 at 6:14pm

It still only looked around 2ft on the tweed just now, with nobody in the water it was hard to tell exact size due to the amount of northerly chop on top of it.

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gtkimber Friday, 22 Jan 2016 at 8:14pm

Walked the 'boardwalk' definite increase in swell compared to yesterday afternoon. Few 3ft sets rolling in and clean. Tomorrow morning will be pumping. Especially if the early NW's forecasted come to fruition. Solid 4 days of swell. Happy days

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thermalben Friday, 22 Jan 2016 at 9:17pm

Which coast was that mate?

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gtkimber Friday, 22 Jan 2016 at 10:28pm

Sunny. 'Twas busy at happies

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Danielmc Friday, 22 Jan 2016 at 9:49pm

In Coffs Harbour a very noticeable building E swell quite solid on the sets a good 2ft should be good over the next few days

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donweather Friday, 22 Jan 2016 at 9:55pm

Solid.....2ft. WTF!!!

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Danielmc Friday, 22 Jan 2016 at 10:00pm

Solid for its size... Meaning it's not just a weak wind swell wave...

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thermalben Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 6:12am

Moffats showing some good size this morning.



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donweather Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 6:22am

Fecking Devil Wind!!!

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Sprout Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 6:25am

Looks better in the pics. It's a bit of a bumpy mess this morning. Open beaches too straight and blown to slop but a solid 3-4ft. 'That' boardwalk had 30 people, a ski and a drone at dawn with flocks more on the way out. Some gems every 20minutes but get your paddling arms on and liiiiine up.

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the chase Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 7:06am

Ahhh that wind.what a waste.

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thermalben Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 7:23am

Plenty of time in this swell to go yet fellas. And it's only 6:30 on Saturday morning - a lot can happen today with a minor change in the wind direction. 

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freeride76 Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 8:37am

farewell Victor.

this wind has been a deadset bonafide good for nothing cunt-ox.

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donweather Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 9:01am

I'm hearing ya!!!

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thermalben Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 9:58am

Really thick lines on the Tweed this morning. Not especially big - around 4ft - but it felt like I was looking over the Southern Ocean. Just a shame about the wind.

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mcsc Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 11:09am

Ben, your latest guesstimate for winds for Sunny Coast tomorrow - we still on track for offshore winds early?

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thermalben Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 11:36am

Will have a look later this arvo once the 00Z update is in and we have some decent obs across the Mid North Coast.

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mcsc Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 1:42pm

Cheers

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udo Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 1:08pm

Byron cam showing some sets.........but ugly and wind affected.

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joakse Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 1:29pm

Mid north coast virtually no wind at present. Has swung between nw and Ne this morn. Some OK waves, long waits but only 3ft range. Lots of storms to the south and thunder coming from the north. Not sure the southerly will arrive with enough time to clean up beaches that are for the most wobbly.

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simba Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 1:55pm

seems to have muscled up a lot since this morning,long way between sets but when they come the lines stretch from one end of the beach to the other and i have seen a few sets 5 ft + and seems to be packing a punch for its size.

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thermalben Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 2:53pm

Just got out of the water on the Tweed, moderate northerly not affecting it as much as you'd think, generally 3-4ft of very strong but inconsistent lines, couple of 5ft bombs at times but they were an hour or more apart. Crikey, what a sight they were when they came through though.

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Slat Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 3:35pm

Moffat beach 630am some good sets no one out, light nthly surf able,Happys pumping 4-5 ft sets tubes, lost boards. Grinding on the sand bar, lots of hooting from the gallery.

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the chase Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 4:10pm

What time will the wind change have to come through to clean things up by the morning ?

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oceanmandan Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 4:46pm

Wow this is good wave! I come to surfer paradise coast with gold and catch good wave with you? I just learn forum for surf and want learn surf this like awesome? My name is Dan from Norway, I bring oil

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mcsc Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 5:03pm

I was told it was firing there, but fecking hell

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the chase Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 4:40pm

Is that sc coast mate? Pumping

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Sprout Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 4:44pm

Bar. No secret spoiling either, 100s out, looked like Snapper.

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_benno Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 5:13pm

Yep, looked like that this arvo. Some real drainers.

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gtkimber Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 5:59pm

I can second that motion Sprout. It was pumping, nice little gallery gathered around too. Good atmosphere. Share some more pics. Probably one of very few spots firing as a result of the northerly winds

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the chase Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 4:43pm

Can't be.

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udo Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 5:05pm

Victor still looks very impressive, Earth null....fullzoom

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roubydouby Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 5:23pm

Change came through coffs with a bang! 2.30 on the dot. Blew with a fury, tons of lightning. Couple of nor-east facing beaches were firing after that, 3-5ft and really grinding on the low tide. Got chased out by nearby lightning. That stuff makes me feel as vulnerable as a cockroach scurrying across a kitchen floor.

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NickT Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 5:37pm

Holy shit that's pumping. Shame about the crowds. Hey does anyone know if Moffart handles 6ft? I got a feeling it will be that big tomorrow. I read that it breaks on an outer bank and barrels which sounds awesome. Hopefully at that size crowds will be at a minimum

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gtkimber Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 6:03pm

Forecast is for Southerly winds early so Moffats will be the go. Predict thats where most of the SC surfers will be that or the next one down

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Slat Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 6:35pm

Nick you will need to be out at the crack of dawn if you want some space, Moffat can handle big outside, if it is big there will be people , lots and lots of people.

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NickT Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 6:44pm

Okay thanks, cheers boys. The southerly change has just hit Coolangatta. Snapper already has about 100 people out

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benski Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 7:03pm

Moffs is a hoax. Not worth the hassle at any size unless you like crowds with your burgers.

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freeride76 Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 8:22pm

tried a late paddle at the local. no-one out. still wind affected from the N'ly, the line of storms didn't quite bring the S'ly change with it. One solid set that was in the 5-6ft range. Lots of water moving. It was a bit long and straight on for this spot.

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thermalben Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 8:53pm

Winds have gone light to moderate southerly in the wake of this afternoon's storms, but it's not the southerly change per se. We should see it kick in overnight, however there's likely to be a delay on its arrival across the Sunny Coast. Should be plenty of swell very similar to today across all coasts.

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Sprout Saturday, 23 Jan 2016 at 9:26pm

None are mine btw...




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freeride76 Sunday, 24 Jan 2016 at 6:24am

wow.

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thermalben Sunday, 24 Jan 2016 at 6:26am

Lovely and lined up on the Goldy this morning.


And some nice lines at Byron too.

But here's an odd one - it's still sizey on the Sunny Coast open stretches (looks like the S'ly has just kicked in too):

But Noosa is tiny. Haven't seen anything of interest on the surfcam there this morning.

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freeride76 Sunday, 24 Jan 2016 at 6:28am

hhhmmmm.....that swell was deffo N of E yesterday...would've thought it would get into Noosa.

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thermalben Sunday, 24 Jan 2016 at 6:50am

Oh man, this is nuts. 

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thermalben Sunday, 24 Jan 2016 at 7:55am

A few crew for breakfast.

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thermalben Sunday, 24 Jan 2016 at 8:04am

How's the crowd at The Pass!

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batfink Sunday, 24 Jan 2016 at 8:16am

Holy crap. Some amazing waves up there, but the crowds!!!!!!!!!!!

Had some fun yesterday after finding somewhere working on the low tide, but certainly not at the size of those shown (although bigger than the Pass and Noosa shots)

Noosa?

Not sure how you even bother paddling out at those crowd sizes. How many are out there just as spectators?

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Umunga Sunday, 24 Jan 2016 at 10:38am

Who the hell would want a southerly change on the SC and drive every one to the same spots
Surfed a beachie yesterday under light NW loads of size and power and good shape 8 people out
Surfed there again today not as clean but bigger and more power still holding its shape

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wellymon Sunday, 24 Jan 2016 at 12:36pm

Nice one Umanga;)

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thermalben Sunday, 24 Jan 2016 at 1:13pm

Just got out of the water, still pumping here. Clean 3-5ft points with heaps of power. Got some unreal waves.

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boogiefever Sunday, 24 Jan 2016 at 2:03pm

Exactly umunga. Gimme a light n/nw wind on the SC any day over a strong southerly. No point saying its 7/10 on a southerly cause u know u gonna b sittin with the mals, sups goatboats and kooks watchin 8-10 good surfers ride 2 ft noosa. Southerlies can eat a bag of dicks....

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spidermonkey Sunday, 24 Jan 2016 at 3:10pm

ha ha,a bag of dicks!!Yeah basically unsurfable on the points due to crowd overload.Who in their right mind would travel to surf Noosa on a swell like this.On a long weekend.Give me a beachie any day.

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NickT Sunday, 24 Jan 2016 at 5:51pm

How do you post photos here?

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Craig Sunday, 24 Jan 2016 at 6:00pm
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Craig Sunday, 24 Jan 2016 at 5:59pm

Sheepy sent this in somewhere north of Caloundra..

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roubydouby Sunday, 24 Jan 2016 at 7:45pm

Ridiculous evening waves in coffs. 4-6 glass, just me and a mate. Victor you sweetheart!

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freeride76 Sunday, 24 Jan 2016 at 8:10pm

This has been nutz, a cherry on the best summer of surf ever.

I took a goldilocks quiver down the Point this morning: a 7'6", 6'9" and a 6'0", in case it was bigger, smaller or bang on forecast. It was close to bang on, with a bias towards the top end of the scale.
The rock off with a rapidly flooding spring tide was awesome. A bloke was standing next to me on the front ledge. I saw a doubling up sidewinder and took a step to the right. It exploded and he just disappeared. Like, vaporised. He was twenty yards back on his back flapping like a turtle. Luckily, no hospitalisation required.

People were sitting wide and in, I went out and deep and nailed a bomb right off the bat. The sets were solid 6, so thick with the long period, so straight, stretched end to end across the Bay and perfectly clean under a whisper of sou-wester. Not a drop out of place. Just divine. The 6'9" felt so, so good.

Came back late for a look and saw ..... ...... from ....... ........ paddle into a solid 6footer. 5 minutes later a 3 wave set came in that was significantly bigger. That was weird because the swell had looked to be backing off all arvo. A tidal influence from the first of the run in .
See what tomoz brings. Hopefully a couple more of those sets.

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Craig Monday, 25 Jan 2016 at 7:30am

Strong straight lines continue on the Goldy.

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freeride76 Monday, 25 Jan 2016 at 8:20am

Bit disappointing this morning.
Top end smaller and less consistent, weaker, wobblier.
It's got some morning sickness on it from a still night.
If yesterday was 4-6 with the odd bigger one today is 3-4 with the odd bigger one.
Yesterday was a 9/10 today is lucky to be a high 6.

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NickT Monday, 25 Jan 2016 at 10:01am

The point was good fun yesterday! Everyone was scared and shoulder hopping in the morning, my mate and a couple others were sitting further out from everyone else and grabbing any set we wanted (nearly.) Some people shouldn't have been out there though, ditching there boards when people were directly behind them. Then at mid tide the inside section had some smashable walls although it got pretty busy and frustrating at times.

Hopefully this works, trying to upload images. The bottom two are of a beach break north of the point in the other photos that my mate checked. If you know where it is don't mention it :-) Apparently there were sets coming through pushing the 8-10ft mark which everyone was paddling clear of. Guys were getting huge barrels





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udo Monday, 25 Jan 2016 at 9:49am

8-10 ft ...bigcall

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NickT Monday, 25 Jan 2016 at 9:55am

Yeah very big call. If the images upload there is one shot showing huge lines coming in, maybe not 10ft. I wasn't there myself. Guys out look pretty small!

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wally Monday, 25 Jan 2016 at 10:09am

Looks to be some very solid 8 footers (in imperial, not surfer feet). Great day! particularly for the sunny coast.

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freeride76 Monday, 25 Jan 2016 at 9:50am

Bit hard to believe.

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thermalben Monday, 25 Jan 2016 at 10:30am

Looks 4-5ft to me, maybe a few 6ft bombs.

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CouplaFunOnes Monday, 25 Jan 2016 at 10:49am

That would be consistent with everywhere I surfed on the SC yesterday. Some mutant clean up sets and as has been said before so many punters with no business being out there. Granite in the arvo was an absolute joke. Impossible to get a decent line through the human detritus.

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thermalben Monday, 25 Jan 2016 at 5:04pm

Sorry guys - juggling a bunch of things here and can't sit down to do the forecast until about 6pm Qld time, so will probably be up around 7-7:30. Apologies for the delay. 

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Umunga Monday, 25 Jan 2016 at 7:33pm

Same beachie super clean solid 4ft some 5 ft and maybe the odd 5 +
Love it when the wind is good on the SC