Building surf from Friday; next week looks unreal

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

South East Queensland and Northern New South Wales Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Wednesday 16th September)

Best DaysFri/Sat/Sun: solid then easing combo of S'ly and SE swells in Northern NSW, smaller in SE Qld and best suited to the outer points. Tues/Wed: solid E/SE swell with (at this stage) good winds. Next Thurs/Fri: easing but still good E/SE swell, with possibly a second stronger SE swell in the mix (for Northern NSW).

Recap: Easing S’ly swells and developing northerly winds have kept a lid on surf prospects for the last few days. Early Tuesday morning had a few options but that’s been about the best of it. A small southerly groundswell pushed into south swell magnets along the Mid North Coast this afternoon but there wasn’t much size in it (occ 2ft sets - smaller than what was seen in southern NSW).

This week (Sep 17 - 18)

A trough pushing off the NSW coast today and a high ridging in from the west are expected to drive fresh southerly winds across much of the East Coast for the next few days.

The coastal trough will stall off the Far North Coast - possibly forming a small closed low east of Byron Bay on Friday - but a series of approaching fronts into the Southern Tasman Sea will anchor this southerly airstream in place for a while.

Thursday’s surf potential looks pretty grim at this stage. The only possible source of new energy for SE Qld is a strengthening N’ly flow off the SE Qld coast tonight, which may whip up a small NE windswell for exposed north facing swell magnets early morning. I can’t see much more than a foot and a half of weak windswell tops. Winds should be NW for much of the day before southerlies develop overnight. Keep your expectations low.

In Northern NSW, we have a small long period southerly groundswell that’s expected to push up the coast during Thursday, generated by a series of intense lows through the Southern Ocean over the last few days. There’s not much confidence in the timing, but south swell magnets should see inconsistent 2ft to maybe 3ft sets at some point. At this the leading edge is due into the Mid North Coast around lunchtime (building during the afternoon) but we may not see this new swell in Far Northern NSW until Friday. So, expect small residual south swell from today to pad out exposed beaches.

As for local winds - there’s a lot of divergence between models. Some have an early gusty change but I’m of the opinion that we won’t see any major strength until the offshore low actually forms within the trough (overnight Thurs). So for the most part I think we’ll see light variable winds across Northern NSW on Thursday with southerlies kicking in late afternoon across the Mid North Coast (extending north overnight).

On Friday, S’ly winds will strengthen across the coast as the low develops a little more, and this should kick up some additional short range SE swell (on top of the small long period S’ly groundswell in Northern NSW). Exposed south facing beaches in Far Northern NSW should see messy 4-5ft sets during the day - maybe a little undersized early morning, and smaller at remaining beaches. However we’re looking at some fun waves across the outer SE Qld points into the afternoon, somewhere in the 2-3ft range (again, likely to be a little smaller at first light). It’ll be bigger at swell magnets north of the border but local winds will create bumpy conditions at these locations.

This short range energy will really be concentrated towards northern locales, so south of about Yamba surf size will be smaller, but similarly affected by fresh S’ly winds. So, don’t expect anything worthwhile at exposed beaches and it’ll be even smaller elsewhere.

This weekend (Sep 19 - 20)

The trough/low off the Far North Coast on Friday will weaken into the weekend but the ridge is expected to remain firm through the Coral Sea (extending back into the central Tasman Sea) which should ensure a few days of small waves across the outer SE Qld points, somewhere between 2ft and maybe 3ft if we’re lucky - smaller at most beaches and protected points. 

With the synoptic wind easing we should see periods of lighter SW winds in the mornings before moderate to maybe fresh SE winds develop throughout the daytime

Northern NSW will also see a continuation of small long periods southerly groundswell in the mix, and similar winds are expected here too (early light SW, tending moderate SE throughout the days). No major size is expected, just inconsistent 2-3ft sets at south facing beaches with smaller waves elsewhere.

We have a few other possible swell sources for late Sunday - mainly for the Mid North Coast, and likely to show better on Monday than on Sunday. The first source will begin to develop on Friday, when a small low is expected to form off the West Coast of New Zealand’s South Island, strengthening a S/SE fetch (this will also enhance the ridge through the central Tasman Sea, and thus additional short range SE swell at the same time). The timing on both of these swells is not particularly clear but size wise it’s only expected to hover around the same as what we’re expecting from other sources anyway.

Late Sunday may also see the arrival of a small trade swell, originating from a developing trade flow near Fiji over the coming days - not no major size is likely from it.

Next week (Sep 21 onwards)

Lots of swell potential for next week.

First off, Monday should begin with a small mix of SE swell (from the low off NZ Friday), plus some short range E/SE energy (from the weekend ridge through the Central Tasman) and additionally a small long range E’ly swell from the Fijian region. It’s still early days but set waves around 3ft+ in Northern NSW and 2-3ft across SE Qld seem reasonable for a ballpark figure right now. 

This is expected to be quickly overshadowed by a much better E/SE groundswell arriving during the late afternoon that’s expected top provide great waves through Tuesday. The origins of this swell are interesting: the low off NZ’s South Island on Friday is expected to track slowly northwards on Saturday and merge with the remnants of the trough/small closed low developing east of Byron Bay on Friday, supercharging a fetch exiting western Cook Strait (the body of water between NZ’s North and South Islands). And, the synoptic pattern is expected to remain slow moving for a few days.

This E/SE fetch will be mainly aimed towards Northern NSW, and current expectations are for strong 4-6ft waves at exposed beaches. With the swell direction out of the SE thru’ E/SE there should be a reasonable spread of size across the region, meaning the semi-exposed points should do very well. At this stage there’s no suggestion for any major trend in the wind but it’s early days yet (I’ll update in Friday’s notes). 

In SE Qld, we’ll see smaller surf from this source but the outer points should still pull in good quality 3-4ft+ sets, with smaller waves at protected points (bigger options at swell magnets though, as long as local winds play ball). Let’s take a closer look on Friday to see if the models are still holding firm.

Tuesday’s swell is expected to hold into Wednesday, and although an easing trend is likely throughout the day, the fetch off New Zealand’s West Coast is expected to remain anchored in place for a few days meaning we should see good residual swell persisting through Thursday and Friday.

In addition to this, there is also a suggestion that we’ll a stronger cut-off low develop in the Central Tasman Sea around the middle of the week that could generate an additional large SE swell on top of the previous energy for Thursday and Friday

It’s way to early to have any confidence in this last weather system, however it certainly fits in with the suggestion I gave in Monday’s notes that next week will "probably head towards some more dynamic developments along the East Coast” as the “atmosphere primes itself for a significant weather event in our eastern swell window”. More on this in Friday’s notes. 

Comments

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donweather Wednesday, 16 Sep 2015 at 7:43pm

Hmmmmm latest 00z charts aren't painting such a rosey picture for the swell from cook strait.

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mcsc Wednesday, 16 Sep 2015 at 8:23pm

All I heard was "great waves" "Tuesday" without the ... "much smaller in SE Qld"

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thermalben Thursday, 17 Sep 2015 at 6:16am

Interesting BOM forecasts for today.

Byron Coastal Waters Forecast: Point Danger to Wooli
Winds: Southerly 15 to 25 knots, reaching up to 30 knots in the evening.

Gold Coast Waters Forecast: Cape Moreton to Point Danger
Winds: Northwesterly 15 to 20 knots, reaching up to 30 knots south of Point Lookout in the late evening. Winds shifting southerly in the late evening.

Looks like there could be quite a convergence zone around D'Bah. 

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wingnut2443 Thursday, 17 Sep 2015 at 7:25am

The 'caldera' at work.

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thermalben Thursday, 17 Sep 2015 at 6:59am

Ha! Well, in any case it's weird because their coastal waters forecasts are primarily computer generated (usually QC'd by a met though) - and their own model doesn't have the change pushing through until late (ie Qld forecast is correct, NSW is incorrect). 

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donweather Thursday, 17 Sep 2015 at 8:10am

So you still going with your forecast above Ben for early-mid next week?

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thermalben Thursday, 17 Sep 2015 at 8:33am

Haven't looked at the data yet (on the road this morning). Will do after lunch.

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donweather Thursday, 17 Sep 2015 at 8:51am

I hope you're not typing and driving at the same time!!!

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tomjoad Thursday, 17 Sep 2015 at 9:28am

This is what I meant Ben - today is a 2/10 on the GC, which is what Saturday was rated as (which was then described as a weekend of fun waves). It's only a small thing, just my feedback.

"It's the trifecta of ordinary weather with localised light showers, onshore winds and no swell. There is nothing to head to the beach for this morning, it is very poor and uninviting. The wind is forecast to be moderate to fresh from the N to NW this morning with a S change late afternoon which will hopefully clean it up and bring some swell for tomorrow morning."

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thermalben Thursday, 17 Sep 2015 at 9:40am

Tom, a written surf report represents surf conditions at a specific point in time. Surf conditions can change throughout the day, sometimes very quickly. I watched all of the Goldy surf cams on Saturday the morning (as is my routine, especially living nearby) and it looked tiny to me, close to unrideable for the early session. That's why the surfcams have such good value, as they allow users to check conditions themselves throughout the day to see if it might have changed since the dawn report.

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tomjoad Thursday, 17 Sep 2015 at 9:45am

For sure. Totally understand, and to be clear I use this website 15 times a week to time my surfs. I don't know if other users find this, but my eyes are always drawn first to the rating out of 10 (including your 10/10 on April fools), and I'll surf and then compare experience to the rating... but I hear ya. Check the cams!

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thermalben Thursday, 17 Sep 2015 at 9:50am

Y'know it's funny - we never had ratings on our surf reports in the early years. I didn't quite understand 'em (and still struggle with condensing the massive number of variables into a single digit) but we had a few clients request ratings, and eventually the overwhelming feedback was in favour of them. But everyone's got a different interpretation of what constitutes a 3 or a 5 or a 9 and that's the hard part for surf reporters - communicating the information in this manner - what if one spot is off the hook, and everywhere is terrible? But I've been working on refining the system and we'll be a lot more transparent in the reporting process in the future so that everyone knows how and why conditions are being described as they are.

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tomjoad Thursday, 17 Sep 2015 at 10:20am

Totally. I see the level of detail you're going into when you produce your forecasts, and totally agree it's pretty hard to condense that down to a number out of ten. Especially for the GC (for example) with 30+ km of coastline. Even just the difference between superbank and D'Bah can be night and day when the wind is up. Or the north end and Palm Beach etc. I'm on the wrong side of public opinion re: ratings, it seems.

For your reference, my 10/10 is 3ft no wind, no sharks, no crowd, light rain, board shorts only :)

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50young Thursday, 17 Sep 2015 at 9:33am

All subjective TomJ I had fun on Saturday, wasn't big but some fun peelers

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thermalben Thursday, 17 Sep 2015 at 4:44pm

Wow, 18Z has pushed the low just a couple of hundred kays further east - but now NZ is bisecting the fetch. ARGH! Still, it's a dynamic system and there's plenty of time for things to swing to and fro. I'll give it another day before making a decision.

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thermalben Thursday, 17 Sep 2015 at 4:46pm

Winds have been light and variable at the Byron AWS all day (mainly some form of northerly though). And the NSW BOM have finally updated the Byron Coastal Waters forecast (as of 4pm):

Byron Coastal Waters Forecast: Point Danger to Wooli
Northwest to southwesterly 15 to 20 knots tending southeast to southwesterly 15 to 25 knots in the evening. Winds reaching up to 30 knots inshore in the late evening.

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Tom.P Thursday, 17 Sep 2015 at 8:52pm

G'day thermal ben,
Just interested to know what the best wind and swell direction is for Sunshine Coast? And do you also know what the best winds and swell direction for Noosa Heads are?Cheers.

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thermalben Friday, 18 Sep 2015 at 6:13am

Tom, you should be able to easily work this out by looking at Google Maps.

Winds are easy: perpendicular to the coast is best (within a 90 degree arc), but for points you'll have to adjust according to the specific angle of each location. 

As for swell - just look at the Sunshine Coast as a part of the broader Coral Sea, and look which way the coast faces, and where there may be any potential obstacles (i.e. swell shadows) that could reduce the size. 

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thermalben Friday, 18 Sep 2015 at 6:14am

Plenty of lines pushing into The Pass this morning (albeit very small, but given the swell direction this is a good sign - see the corduroy fanning out in the Bay?).

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donweather Friday, 18 Sep 2015 at 9:00am

Looks like it's got N'ly scarring on it too.

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Tom.P Friday, 18 Sep 2015 at 9:36am

Thermal Ben can u please just tell me what the best wind and swell direction is, it's not that hard to tell me. And google maps dosent work on my phone. Cheers

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mugofsunshine Friday, 18 Sep 2015 at 12:02pm

Tom.P Hey Tom, I'm guessing Ben is pretty busy right now updating surfers around the country for free. So, East swell West wind is optimum. There is a wealth of information on this site with regards to forecasting all available for free. Take a bit of time and do some research, it's pretty rewarding.

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donweather Friday, 18 Sep 2015 at 12:37pm

I'm pretty sure Tom P is taking the piss!!

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Gary G Friday, 18 Sep 2015 at 12:55pm

Here's some more work by Tom P last week where he got a little shirty when someone called him out on it. Gary had to step in and restore order.

http://www.swellnet.com/reports/forecaster-notes/victoria/2015/09/11/sma...

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mugofsunshine Friday, 18 Sep 2015 at 1:02pm

Coastalwatch intern?

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thermalben Friday, 18 Sep 2015 at 4:09pm

This short range swell is slow to build but there are a few 2ft sets showing at the points now. Bloody windy outside too!