Excellent outlook for the points

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

South East Queensland and Northern New South Wales Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Monday 9th February)

Best Days: Entrire period: great waves in Southern Queensland with a slowly building SE tending E'ly swell, biggest late Fri/Sat. Next week: good chance for a sizeable E'ly swell.

Recap: Steadily easing swells since Saturday with favourable morning winds. 

This week (Feb 10 - 13)

Freshening SE winds through the Coral Sea will kick up some new short range swell for southern Qld over the coming days. This should result in a steady upwards trend in the size department, each day building incrementally on the last - although moderate to fresh SE winds will confine the best waves to the semi-exposed points. Swell direction will initially be SE on Tuesday but by Wednesday should tend more E/SE.

Additionally, wave heights will be bigger in more northern locations (continentally speaking, up to Fraser Island) due to the closer proximity to the swell source. Our swell model seems to be picking up this difference quite well: the Gold Coast should start off around 2ft Tuesday morning while the Sunshine Coast should start off around 2-3ft (open beaches, that is: smaller on the points).

At this stage a plateau is expected through late Friday or Saturday, with solid 3-5ft waves at exposed beaches in southern Queensland, and smaller waves along the points. Again, fresh SE winds will continue to focus the best waves to the protected points. 

In Friday’s model runs there had been a suggestion for a tropical depression to intensify within the trades later this week, however it’s been pulled back a little in the last few runs (and consequently kept a lid on surf size at the peak of this cycle). However, the good news is that this established trade flow is expected to continue delivering strong swells for quite some time and there are sizeable options still on the cards for the long term period (keep on reading below!).

As for the Northern NSW Coast, initially the Coral Sea fetch will be mainly favourable for locations north of Byron Bay, however over the coming days it’s expected to merge with a more established trade flow that’s developing north of New Zealand. This particular system will favour the entire East Coast for quality E’ly swell and we can expect a solid building trend from about Thursday onwards with solid 3-5ft surf at open beaches through Friday and Saturday

Winds will mainly hold out of the eastern quadrant all week but shouldn’t be too strong over, in fact we should even see pockets of light variable winds in the mornings. So all in all, expect small surf for the next couple of days (south of about Ballina) ahead of some solid offerings for the second half of the week. 

This weekend (Feb 14 - 15)

Looking pretty good for the weekend. Friday’s late peak of E’ly swell should level out into Saturday with reasonably consistent 4-5ft waves at most open beaches, and smaller surf across the points. 

The wind regime is expected to be similar to what we’re expecting through the week but it may be a little lower in strength as the pressure gradient temporarily relaxes across the coastal margin. So, there’s a very good chance for a period of light variable winds in most regions. An easing trend in the size department is likely through the afternoon.

On Sunday we’ll probably see wave heights tail off a little, but with similar conditions as per Saturday. All in all a really good weekend of waves coming up.

Next week (Feb 16 onwards)

The good news for the long term is that we seem to be in the early stages of a considerable broad scale blocking pattern. What this means is that this trade flow will remain entrenched across the Northern Tasman Sea for quite some time. 

In fact, the latest computer models are showing a broad tropical depression moving south from a position east of New Caledonia during the weekend, ridging against the large stationary high over New Zealand longitudes (see chart below), and generating a very strong easterly groundswell for the early to middle part of next week, and likely to hold through until the end of the week.

While it’s still too early to pin down size estimates, this is certainly shaping up as an extended period of quality groundswell from the eastern quadrant, with a very good chance of some sizeable waves mid-next week too. More on this in Wednesday’s update.

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donweather Monday, 9 Feb 2015 at 6:30pm

A little bit of confusion with the local wind forecasts above Ben?

"Again, fresh SE winds will continue to focus the best waves to the protected points. "

"Winds will mainly hold out of the eastern quadrant all week but shouldn’t be too strong over."

For me, I'm seeing more east than SE, which will not make for many good protected options as well as placing some wobble on the better quality longer period groundswell arriving.

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thermalben Monday, 9 Feb 2015 at 6:40pm

Two different regions - SE in Qld and E in Northern NSW (and NE in Southern NSW).

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Sheepdog Monday, 9 Feb 2015 at 7:13pm

I'm seeing se way offshore, but tending quite ese to east close in, thanks to the ridge being influenced by the inland trough/low.... Options limited to less than a handful between Nth nsw and Fraser........

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freeride76 Monday, 9 Feb 2015 at 8:15pm

I'm with Ben, I think the strength will be manageable.

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seaman-staines Monday, 9 Feb 2015 at 10:06pm

Are you Quikproing it this year Steve?

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freeride76 Tuesday, 10 Feb 2015 at 7:11am

Not sure SS.

It's like visiting a Soviet Gulag now with all the security and restrictions.

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donweather Monday, 9 Feb 2015 at 10:30pm

Down your way yes Steve. Further north loses out with stronger winds and less land/sea temp differentials unfortunately.

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Sheepdog Tuesday, 10 Feb 2015 at 9:30am

Nope.... Shit wind..... Even for nsw..... Good swell but shit wind..... Heaps of east in it.....20' overnight minimums.... 26' water off Coffs..... Cant see too much oomph in overnight land breeze.... And I'm usually an optimist...

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Sheepdog Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 9:33am

How are those manageable winds going?...... lol..... Shit wind.......

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freeride76 Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 9:48am

Totally manageable. But I'm not going back in the water yet. No-one is.
Look at the wind strengths and directions yesterday at Ballina SD.
See those little windows of lighter winds?
They're always there during these deep mean E'ly flows if the water is warm.

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Blowin Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 10:12am

Been fishing Freeride ?

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freeride76 Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 10:17am

yeah. fished the pre-dawny the morning the guy got chomped.

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Blowin Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 10:23am

Successfully ?

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freeride76 Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 10:24am

yep. there's been an abundance of legal to solid tailor around. School jewfish on tide changes. Haven't seen any pelagics in close but there's reports of longtail tuna around.

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Blowin Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 10:36am

Sounds good. I've been getting stuck into the KG whiting. Top ten eating fish , they get a little frenzy going in a burley trail and have a bit of a go on light gear. What's not to love ? Be nice to see a 2.5 kg puppy.

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Sheepdog Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 10:25am

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN60701/IDN60701.94596.shtml
???????.................... They aren't windows... More like cracks in a shit wind wall..... No overnight land breeze as I pointed out...... And today is even worse..... Checked a plethora of cams... Looks like muck, except for some small sliders at the "less than a handful of spots" I referred to a few days ago.....
And even during these "manageable windows", the swell has a distinct mucky morning sickness wobble to it.....
Certainly not an "Excellent outlook for the points", steve..... Or a "long term has incredible potential"........
Keep it real, fellas....... 3 to 4 out of 10 at best......

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Craig Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 10:28am

This morning is a great case, look at the winds at Cooly right now..

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN60801/IDN60801.94592.shtml

Swell is pouring through as well!!

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donweather Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 1:31pm

Looks better than I expected, I'll admit, but you can still see that wobble through each wave I was referring too.

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Craig Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 1:32pm

Slight wobble is better than onshore bumps and crumbles.

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thermalben Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 10:28am

Jeez SD, where did your optimism go? Snapper looked super fun on the surfcam this morning.

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freeride76 Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 10:31am

SD, who's the Captain Neggo now?

I wouldn't in any way call it incredible....just a typical Feb tradewind pattern with a deep mean E'ly flow. Plenty of surf on the Points.
Yes, it probably is being oversold a bit in the headline but there's tons of surf.

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Craig Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 10:32am

Yep, better than a kick in the head, and small swell with persistent northerlies!

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donweather Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 1:33pm

Craig, it's fecking mid Feb mate. You don't expect a kick in the head and small swell with persistent N'ly's in Feb in SE Qld mate. If so, you'd be hanging yourself!!!!

We are two weeks away from the start of Autumn and constant onshore winds are not what us SE Qlders expect for this time of year. Irrespective of swell or no swell. This is the time of year when you can pretty much expect clean offshore mornings with a super fun 2-4ft E'ly swell running and no wobble.....just fun clean peaks/lines. Give me that any day over this shit we're being served up for this week and into next!!!!

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Craig Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 1:36pm

Haha, yes yes true.

But going on last year's poor performance, the last month has been great for you guys.

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donweather Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 1:43pm

So we're saying this last month is great cause last year was shit?

Hmmmmm, not sure I measure on the same scale as you guys then!!!

I prefer to go on historical long term averages/expectations rather than comparing current conditions to the same time last year.

At the end of the day, I hate crowds, so if I can't surf an uncrowded beachie and the only option is a crowded point, then I'll pass on that every time. But hey, as shown and described by others in this thread, there was most definitely surfable waves around on the points this morning so I guess I'm only being selfish with my complaining!!! ;)

Although if ya ask me conditions look to have improved now from dawn, as winds at Coolly looked woeful pre and just on dawn this morning.

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Craig Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 1:48pm

Twisting words there Don :p, just making a passing comment.

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thermalben Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 10:41am

I can tell ya, writing the headline is the hardest part of the forecast.

How do you sum up the entire forecast in five or six or words? And without repeat previous headlines, of course. Bloody difficult work three times per week, especially this time of the year in SE Qld/Nthn NSW when there's sometimes only small variations from forecast to forecast.

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Sheepdog Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 10:54am

A still can be misleading.. You know that..... we can all see the cams..... 2 guys riding.... That shows the peaky uneven lumpy morning sickness of a swell it is...... Look, I take it on the chin when i'm wrong..... And I've copped a few decent whacks along the way... And fair enough.....

So, sip on a glass of cement, boys, and harden the **** up..... ( that was sarcastic humor btw) ;)

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thermalben Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 11:57am

Burleigh looking bloody fun this AM too (pics courtesy Mark Wilson).



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Sheepdog Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 6:47pm

Pretty stock feb' surf, really..... An hour or so of glassy 4 out of ten conditions does not equate to the hype....... I saw on tele the funeral service at shelly early this morning... shocking conditions...... Moffats - crap, noosa- tiny, snapper - lumpy, burleigh - ok for an hour, byron small......... I stand by what I wrote days ago - shit wind limiting options to less than a handful of spots between free rides joint and Fraser.......
Onshores continuing..... Maybe lighter on sunday......
Anyway, beats being flat with lip cracking westerlies, right? ;)

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Hastoes Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 1:09pm

Just got out of the water, Snapper through to kirra was super fun!!

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freeride76 Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 2:00pm

DonW, you're tripping mate. This kind of surf and conditions is perfectly in line with seasonal expectations.
It's the ability of the regional points to turn these kinds of tradewind swell event with their concomitant deep tradewind flows into great fun surfable waves that makes this area such a surfers paradise.
If you're waiting around for clean uncrowded beachies you're not going to be getting in many surf days per year.
Jump on the conveyor belt and get some.

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donweather Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 2:17pm

Thanks Steve, but I'm more than happy to give the conveyor belt to the sheep and wait my turn for the uncrowded beachies.

Whenever I surf the points I come out of the water more stressed/frustrated than when I went in. That's not why I choose to surf.

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freeride76 Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 4:00pm

How do you keep surf fit if you sit out all these tradewind swell days?

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donweather Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 6:30pm

It's been a real issue this summer Steve. I can count on two hands the amount of times I've surfed since my OS Surfari in Sept/Oct 2014.

And don't get me wrong. I like/enjoy these tradewind swells and have had some amazing surfs from them. Just don't want the relentless onshores that we've had recently and look set to continue for some time to come.

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Craig Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 4:02pm

Honestly I've never had too many issues getting waves on the points up there. You've just got to be on your game and smart about your positioning, paddling and surfing.

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Sheepdog Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 6:50pm

Yeah yeah.... You've done heaps better since i gave you that paddle back out wide tip when you were up in noosa last year...... ;)
Just stirring, boys...... Get amongst it... hehehe......

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Craig Thursday, 12 Feb 2015 at 10:27am

I figured that one out myself SD then remembered your comments about it, and no this is before I was even using that. Just have to be on your game.

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Sheepdog Thursday, 12 Feb 2015 at 10:32am

Don't get me searching the archives for your reply back then craig ( as craig furiously searches and presses delete ;) )..... Hey, still waiting on your response in "crowds" lol

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Craig Thursday, 12 Feb 2015 at 10:36am

You know the answer to that one in crowds. And no need to search, as I remember I figured it out at First Point while out there and once doing it also remember your comments about it. Simple as, no need to let more people know about it ;)

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Sheepdog Thursday, 12 Feb 2015 at 10:42am

That's why i said drop me a private line..... My secret is a noosa specific secret that has nothing to do with what you and I have been discussing re' first point....... its a totally different secret.... It doesn't work at other qld points........ I'd be interested to know if you've worked it out......

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Craig Thursday, 12 Feb 2015 at 10:43am

Ah, will drop you a line then..

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Blowin Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 2:14pm

Good luck fellas. I'm off to Indo.

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Craig Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 2:18pm

Bastard, enjoy! Couple of fun S/SW swells on the way.

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udo Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 2:19pm

Been some nice fun ulu last few days. Baliwaves .com

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Blowin Wednesday, 11 Feb 2015 at 2:19pm

Roger that.