MEO Rip Curl Pro Portugal - Early Forecast

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Craig Brokensha (Craig)
Swellnet Analysis

With no loss of momentum, the world tour caravan rolls south through Spain and on to Portugal. Specifically, the coastal town of Peniche and it's premiere wave, Supertubos.

As with France, the outlook is great with plenty of swell due throughout the waiting period which kicks off this Friday.

In the wake of ex-Hurricane Ophelia, we're expecting back to back storms to light up the North Atlantic, the biggest and strongest forming this Friday.

Supertubos faces west-southwest and winds are offshore from the north through to south-southeast. Come the first day of the waiting period a large mid-period W/NW swell will be spoilt by onshore south-west winds. This is offshore for the backup location, Lagido at Baleal, though a move here is very unlikely as it's mostly a last resort option. Keep an eye on Instagram as there are many other waves in Peniche that will work in this wind and swell combo.

Winds should swing around to the north from Saturday and more offshore (for Supertubos) Sunday and Monday as a large powerful W/NW tending NW groundswell fills in.

This swell will be generated by a deep and intense low forming directly north-west of Portugal on Friday, with wind speeds forecast to reach severe-gale to storm-force before the storm continues north-east across the UK.

Kieren Perrow will have some tight calls to make, as the swell will be clean yet the size is likely to overpower Supertubos on Saturday coming in at 6-8ft through the afternoon. Sunday, however, looks excellent as the swell drops away from 5-6ft surf during the morning. The direction will also head more north-west.

Monday will be smaller and back to 3ft or so with favourable morning offshore winds.

A renewal of W/NW swell is due on Tuesday from a broad storm track developing between Newfoundland and Ireland, with moderate to large-sized surf expected through most of the week. Unfortunately a couple of fronts breaking away and pushing south-east towards Portugal will bring southerly winds from Wednesday through the rest of the forecast period. This isn't ideal but each morning should be clean enough to run at least a few heats. Again, it'll be more tough calls for the Commish.

We'll provide updates on how next week's swell and wind are shaping up in the comments below.

16 day Supertubos Forecast Graph
16 day Supertubos Forecast WAMs

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freeride76 Tuesday, 17 Oct 2017 at 12:23pm

Isn't 6-8ft well within the range for Supertubos ?

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Craig Tuesday, 17 Oct 2017 at 12:32pm

I'd say just on the verge if there aren't any banks. It'll be a wait and see come Saturday, and with the storm being so close the swell will be that more consistent, possibly adding to the complexity of the call for KP. 

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stunet Tuesday, 17 Oct 2017 at 12:36pm

Lot of Supertubos footage on the web but this is the biggest I could find. It's Dane, Brendan Gibbens, and Ando, taken from the trip when Dane got locked up.

Easy to see how perfect it's gotta be and how too much grunt or an unkind wind will roon it.

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Lanky Dean Thursday, 19 Oct 2017 at 11:09pm

Wind, sand, swell direction ,tide and swell period all play a big role in determining an epic or weird day. Really think it has a three to four hour window.

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crg Tuesday, 17 Oct 2017 at 12:44pm

I reckon Owen Wright will be pretty pissed off if they run it again in smaller, safer conditions. Surely it's better to be having a crack at risky 6-8 rather than clean 2-3?

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Craig Tuesday, 17 Oct 2017 at 12:48pm

Yeah he wasn't a happy chappy after his France exit.

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Island Bay Tuesday, 17 Oct 2017 at 7:11pm

S/SE is most definitely onshore at Supertubos.

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Nick Bone Tuesday, 17 Oct 2017 at 8:37pm

If i use my finger compass on the picture above, S/SE is sideshore atleast and possibly protected slightly from that little southern headland. The finger compass never lies..

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Craig Wednesday, 18 Oct 2017 at 7:26am

Cross-shore at worst, definitely not onshore.

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Island Bay Wednesday, 18 Oct 2017 at 10:01am

Believe me, I've surfed there many times. SE wind blows right up the coast and is cross onshore at the break.

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Lanky Dean Friday, 20 Oct 2017 at 2:45pm

Agreed.

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goofyfoot Wednesday, 18 Oct 2017 at 10:32am

Cross/onshore at nth end
Cross/offshore at Sth end
???

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thermalben Wednesday, 18 Oct 2017 at 10:38am

At Supertubos:
S'ly is cross-onshore.
S/SE is cross-shore.
SE is cross-offshore
E/SE thru' N/NE is offshore.

The prior trend of the wind is important though. S'ly winds backing to the SE will leave a residual bump through the lineup.

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goofyfoot Wednesday, 18 Oct 2017 at 10:49am

The big boss comes in and puts the matter to bed. Discussion OVER!

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thermalben Wednesday, 18 Oct 2017 at 10:58am

Haha! Nah, just good to put up a map for reference.

We can debate these kinds of things all day long but you can't argue with a map and a compass.

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Nick Bone Wednesday, 18 Oct 2017 at 12:25pm

*finger compass

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carpetman Wednesday, 18 Oct 2017 at 8:35pm

Can't really argue with that but I remember checking it a bunch of times in a south east wind and always ended up having to go north of the peninsula. Maybe some sort of local effect swinging the wind in a more southerly direction along the beach?

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thermalben Wednesday, 18 Oct 2017 at 8:37pm

How did you determine the wind was SE? AWS station or model forecast?

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carpetman Wednesday, 18 Oct 2017 at 9:07pm

AWS station.

First occasion; we surfed it in the morning, clean, light offshore. Went for lunch and after checked the wind, SE, so decided to go back and was very much crossshore. checked it a few more times after that in "SE wind" but always had bumps and sidechop. Can't remember the location of the weather station I was using though, and observations are a distant memory so a little hazy.

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thermalben Wednesday, 18 Oct 2017 at 9:17pm

Interesting. MeteoGroup seems to have a weather station at Cabo Carvoeiro (the point immediately north of Supertubos) which should be a very good indication of regional wind direction. I can't find any live data though, seems to be only model guidance.

http://www.centrometeo.pt/en/europe/portugal/weather-cabo-carvoeiro/deta...

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maddogmorley Wednesday, 18 Oct 2017 at 9:32pm

Maybe it's a bit like a NE wind at Victor Harbor? Terrible for Middleton Point and Day St but OK at Goolwa. Perhaps just enough distance to create a chop.....Baby D's and Blacks can be a bit like that in a NE wind too....

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indo-dreaming Wednesday, 18 Oct 2017 at 12:30pm

JJF will love this forecast solid with a bit of cross shore for forehand airs.

JJF for the win.

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sanger Wednesday, 18 Oct 2017 at 1:32pm

Now if you can just forecast me who is going to win that would be most appreciated. :)

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crg Wednesday, 18 Oct 2017 at 7:46pm

Mason Ho gets the wildcard again

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Lanky Dean Thursday, 19 Oct 2017 at 12:04am

Spent some time there before the search came to town. Rented an apartment in town and would walk/ run to surf. Pretty much almost always offshore some where. Super fun . super, super fickle wave .

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nathan666 Friday, 20 Oct 2017 at 8:35pm

Lived there for a while a few years back. Supertubos is super exposed to wind but loves a northerly, put a bit of east in it and its bang on. South winds tear it apart. Fickle spot, but when its on its a sight to behold

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crg Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 1:16pm

Fingers crossed some epic viewing tonight...

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Blowin Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 6:04pm

There are some big calls going out on the forecasts .

I'm ready for some entertainment.

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stunet Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 6:33pm

I've been on the tools all day.

Not often I get a chance to say that and it's fucken satisfying.

The satisfying thing is sounding like a tradie, not the work, 'cos that shit was hard. I'm re-building my deck and I spent ten hours just lifting the old wood up. Thought that bit would take two hours and the new stuff would be down by now. But no, there's 300 metres of new pine blocking the drive, tools and shit laying everywhere, we've gotta use the back door as a front door, I'm knackered and the job's not even half done.

Beer and Supertubos sounds fantastic.

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Blowin Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 6:47pm

Best bit about work is the hard earned beer at the end of it.

Just jokes.... Sort of.

Soon you'll be putting your feet up and looking at that deck and thinking - I built that with the sweat off my brow . And thank Christ it's over.

Building is very satisfying.

Should be a good night at Supertubos.

PS - Are you doing the deck solo ?

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stunet Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 6:52pm

Doing it with the old man. 77 and swings a hammer harder than me.

Dunno if he'll show up tomorrow but.

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crg Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 7:45pm

Haha...the romance of DIY soon fades under the reality of its physicality and in general the inexperienced techniques and inadequate tools. Know the feeling...but man that first coldie tastes good!

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thermalben Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 6:28pm

Dawn has arrived, and the event is 'old hold'.. always ominous when there's a greatly anticipated forecast. Quick squiz of the live vision looks about 4ft (!), clean and fun though.

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crg Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 7:49pm

Is the Atlantic that unpredictable? Is it the tides?
Surfline have talked this day in the forecast up as 6-8ft building until 12ft...even on the WSL scale they've missed it by a long way.

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crg Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 8:09pm

Actually looks solid now it's on!

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simba Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 8:10pm

Boys are going to earn there bucks today.......looks heavy.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 8:11pm

Conditions might change but right now it looks terrible super rippy heavy close out shore break with a fairly strong cross off.

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flow Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 8:17pm

Watching Bledisloe cup and the surfing. Glad to be on the lounge and not being a participant in either

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stunet Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 8:18pm

Could do with an artificial reef.

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Blowin Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 8:19pm

Looks fucking terrible.

Some of the super technical drops these bastards pull off should be good viewing in slow mo.

Crew will be getting flogged. See Ciao's first wave !?

Could get amazing .

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freeride76 Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 8:24pm

god I hope the Euro leg of the tour gets axed.

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stunet Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 8:32pm

Any tubos will will do. Doesn't have to be super.

Anything.

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thermalben Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 8:33pm

Looks terrible. I'll give it halfa, if it doesn't improve I don't think I'll be able to last the distance.

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Blowin Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 8:39pm

Good luck selling this to non surfers.

I'm still into it as background till it turns on.

If only there was something I could ingest that makes it more interesting.

Hmmm.

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thermalben Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 8:40pm

How's the wannabe 80's glam rock music filling in the ad spots? Who chooses this stuff?

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goofyfoot Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 8:40pm

Yep I’m done, JW winning with a 4.9 total.
Next heat bede, kennedy, Wilkinson.
Snooze fest

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Blowin Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 8:45pm

By midnight East coast time there'll be a few chambers.

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crg Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 8:48pm

Don't understand with the swell they've got forecast why they would send them out on dead low tide...surely enough time to wait an hour or two?

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many-rivers Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 8:52pm

How is it professional to ask surfers to go out in this rubbish?
The commentators are shills , no credibilty , they are struggling to make this acceptable.
Stryder would be better off just mumbling unintelligibly.Having him talking about garbage , making it smell like roses is beyond his ability.
Conspiracy theorists - this is going to be used as justification to move the whole circus to wave pools.

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Blowin Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 10:11pm

Starting to lurch now.

Kerr has caught some bombs. Crazy drops .

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Nick Bone Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 10:42pm

Love strider. "Wipe the plate clean and pull the sheets tight."

And now the test. Always interesting when the waves are shit and JJF heat is in the water. #WWJJD

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upnorth Saturday, 21 Oct 2017 at 11:13pm

JJF just makes tricky conditions look easy. Pretty much the same last year, started with bigger, barely makeable closeouts and JJf looked comfortable. Ended up being a quality event and we know how it ended. Hopefully more of the same.

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upnorth Sunday, 22 Oct 2017 at 12:09am

Starting to fire now with the tide, Bourez finding the bombs. Wouldn't fancy that paddle out.

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Lanky Dean Sunday, 22 Oct 2017 at 12:59am

Just tuned in, Filipe just had a seven minute paddle out.LOL.

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Rabbits68 Sunday, 22 Oct 2017 at 1:44am

I reckon the WSL need to introduce some technology to the broadcast. Similar to the cricket. You know, that pen they use to highlight fielding positions & discuss tactics & strategy. I reckon it could work in the lineup to help the average punter get involved & understand the set up . Otherwise they’re pretty much screwed from a non surfer perspective.......

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upnorth Sunday, 22 Oct 2017 at 2:06am

Not a fan of drones but they add a cool perspective of the line up, angle of swell to land etc. Not sure non surfers would ever really understand what was going on, at least with cricket many non fans have whacked a ball around so get the idea.

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Nick Bone Sunday, 22 Oct 2017 at 7:39am

Pretty sure Pottz had a magic screen pen at one point

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upnorth Sunday, 22 Oct 2017 at 2:10am

Mason should be a permanent fixture on the tour regardless of ranking, surfing aside he's a breath of fresh air from the media prepped crew.

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simba Sunday, 22 Oct 2017 at 7:35am

Cant figure out the scoring ,as per usual,example Bourez gets a 8.5 for a nice wave but dosen't get fully pitted (and double claims it) and Jack Freestone gets a hell long complex barrel and gets a 9,half a point difference........sorry but Jacks was way better imo.