Things Of Foam And Wood: Polyola Blanks

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Stu Nettle (stunet)
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Raising eyebrows in Europe is a new blank company called Polyola. The French company spent a few years in R&D and are now selling PU blanks with a difference.

For one, the polyol - one of two main ingredients in PU foam - is majority made from recycled materials, it also contains a wooden additive, and the chemical make up leads to a distinctive blank. Just don't call it yellow...

With their blanks coming onto the market, and new improvements - such as recycled isocyanate, which is the other ingredient in PU foam - being promised, Swellnet figured it was time to find out a bit more about Polyola.

We recently spoke to Aristide Schöndienst, one of the two surfers behind Polyola.

Swellnet: How long has the company been established?
Aristide: We legally founded the company in France in 2020. But the idea for Polyola was already born more than five years ago by two surfers who were frustrated about how toxic and polluting the surfboard manufacturing process is.

How do the blanks compare for, say, compression strength to normal PU blanks?
Our unique set of raw materials allows for a light yet very strong and flexible foam and we get super feedback from our team riders such as Miguel Blanco or Vincent Duvignac. The MDI component [MDI is the blowing agent] we use helps with the compression strength and makes for long-lasting foams that don't dent as easily as most other traditional blanks.

Is the yellow colouring due to MDI?
'Yellow' is a complicated word if you talk about blanks and surfboards in general, since most people associate an old board that turned yellow under the sun with it.

To be honest, we have not yet settled on a suitable colour name and are still wavering between 'sand' or 'cream' coloured and a few other alternatives. Suggestions are very welcome! But the natural colour of our blanks comes from the distinctive raw materials we use: our recycled polyol, the wooden additive and the MDI.

Cut Polyola blanks waiting to be glued

What materials are present in the blanks?
PU Blanks are made by mixing two liquids: a polyol and an isocyanate. The polyol we developed is made from approximately 85 % recycled material. The wooden component is an additive that creates a very homogenous density throughout the whole blank and a small cell structure. Together with the MDI it also increases the compression strenght and gives the board a long-lasting lively feel and flex pattern.

We chose these raw materials not only because of their environmental advantages but also because they give us many more advantages to creating high performance, long-lasting surfboard foam.

At the end, the chemistry behind it allows us to liquify our foam again and use as a resource for future blanks.

How have they been received in Europe?
We finished product development at the end of 2020 and started selling them in March 2021 in Europe. Throughout the development period we worked closely with many local shapers and surfers to develop a product for them and to their specifications. As our blanks are not only based on recycled material but also 100 % recyclable we established a new way of working with shapers and factories as we not only deliver them blanks but also take the offcuts from shaping our blanks back and therefore create a circular system. In other words, their shaping waste of Polyola blanks becomes our resource to create their future Polyola blanks.

We are experiencing great interest from and are looking into expanding to overseas in the close future.

Adrien Toyen riding a board shaped with a Polyola blank (Alias Babnik)

Who have been the early adopters of the blanks?
Many have been instrumental and key to developing the blanks and spreading the word. One to mention is definitely Robin Kegel [Gato Heroi], who lives mostly in France and who was one of the first to embrace the colour difference and help us spread the word. He was super impressed with the quality of our blanks and as we didn't have any longboard blanks at the start we collaborated with him as the designer for our two longboard molds.

Also many big factories, in Europe and globally, have reached out and are testing our blanks and we are looking forward to many good things to come in the near future.

Visit Polyola online

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spinafex Monday, 7 Nov 2022 at 11:21am

That colour is pretty on trend for retro craft - I'd call it faded Apricot

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mrkook Monday, 7 Nov 2022 at 11:32am

Tequila Sunrise?
Tuscan Velvet?

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stunet Monday, 7 Nov 2022 at 11:33am

Walnut smoothie (with activated almond milk)

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spinafex Monday, 7 Nov 2022 at 4:07pm

Almond Milk!

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blackers Monday, 7 Nov 2022 at 12:18pm

90's banana? Or 3 year old firewire?

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dlk92 Monday, 7 Nov 2022 at 12:24pm

A surfboard made out of one of these blanks with basalt cloth and bio-epoxy resin would be pretty cool. If the environmental improvement could be quantified that would be interesting to put some numbers to it.

Throw in a yulex suit for good measure, and ride your solar charged electric bike to the beach.

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johnruciak Monday, 7 Nov 2022 at 1:02pm

Amber

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udo Monday, 7 Nov 2022 at 3:00pm

Look ok with a bit of added Colour

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Finntim Monday, 7 Nov 2022 at 3:19pm

eco-friendly MDF

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Vunerable Monday, 7 Nov 2022 at 5:48pm

Wood content might act like a wick for water logging.Might wait and see what their like after a few dings?

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pointy Monday, 7 Nov 2022 at 3:58pm

"two surfers who were frustrated about how toxic...." and yet they make PU blanks? - Isocyanates are very toxic.

I wonder if the 'wooden' component is nitrocellulose?

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spinafex Monday, 7 Nov 2022 at 4:15pm

Probably cellulose nanocrystal (CNC)

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billie Monday, 7 Nov 2022 at 4:02pm

Traditional corn tortilla

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tubeshooter Monday, 7 Nov 2022 at 4:55pm

Baby shit Brown

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ilikelamb Monday, 7 Nov 2022 at 5:00pm

Ambergris

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Coaster Monday, 7 Nov 2022 at 8:49pm

The colour is sea foam (sounds better than spume).

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mattlock Monday, 7 Nov 2022 at 9:00pm

Sourdough.

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juegasiempre Monday, 7 Nov 2022 at 11:21pm

That's cool. Given all the 4oz glass Merricks getting around, it will take a couple of pros riding them to get any traction.

Would this be more 'environmentally friendly' than an EPS/epoxy board? My 2nd hand JS hi-fi has been going strong for 3 years now and even after a meeting with sharp rocks the other day, after a good repair job is basically like new.

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spinafex Tuesday, 8 Nov 2022 at 12:31pm

It might be - I saw a paper on Polyol, MDI, Cellulose nanocrystal foam (which is what this stuff probably is). It has much higher compressive strength than standard PU. That would mean fewer deck dents with the same glass job. Which would mean people would keep them longer.

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garyg1412 Tuesday, 8 Nov 2022 at 8:45am

Sharky - cross between shit and khaki.

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Craig Tuesday, 8 Nov 2022 at 8:55am

Nice work guys. It's good to see progression in this area.

Would glassing on top of the foam affect the 100% recyclable tag?

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eel Tuesday, 8 Nov 2022 at 10:06am

The boards look 6 years old even though they are new. Not many will drop $800 unless they spray them white or maybe black.

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memlasurf Tuesday, 8 Nov 2022 at 10:14am

Or oatmeal?

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stunet Tuesday, 8 Nov 2022 at 10:16am

Reckon you'll see a lot of them sprayed for that reason, though if they get mainstream traction it'll be interesting to see how perception changes.

When Tuflite's first came out they drew stringers onto the mold to make it look like a normal PU blank. Boards without a stringer looked weird (Shane Stedman did the same with Shane Standards, except he used string).

If the product works, as epoxies and molded surfboards do, then public perception slowly comes around and what was weird and off-putting becomes normal.

It's possible that one day we might see a 'sand' coloured blank and think nothing of it. Long as it's got a Polyola logo on it somewhere.

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udo Tuesday, 8 Nov 2022 at 10:59am

I wonder why they are not showing Blanks Blown with Pigment
Full Colour or Swirl..

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DC73 Tuesday, 8 Nov 2022 at 11:34am

Italian Parmesan ?

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PeteWebb Tuesday, 8 Nov 2022 at 4:10pm

Chai Latte!

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lost Tuesday, 8 Nov 2022 at 6:11pm

Possible to drop a tint into the foam for some different effects it would that kill the environmental cred ?

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booman Wednesday, 9 Nov 2022 at 10:08am

"allows for a light yet very strong and flexible foam"

Means nothing. Engineering materials data sheet or nothing.

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bbbird Monday, 14 Nov 2022 at 9:05pm

These new polyola board blanks, combined with basalt/hemp/flax cloth & Vinyl-ester resin would be flexible, very strong, brown & could last for years...
"Vinylester is essentially a styrene modified epoxy resin. It adds excellent strength, rigidity, adhesion, water and chemical resistance."
https://www.lbifiberglass.com/which-resin-to-use-epoxy-vs-polyester-vs-v...

I had a V-ester board reversed over by an HR Holden (fins up) and it bounced back into shape with a little crease (returning to its original bottom curve!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_ester_resin
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0014305717311187?...

if only we were less creatures of habit, fashion fads & fallacy

https://www.sanded.com.au/products/basalt-flax-hybrid-3oz-woven-cloth?pr...

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bbbird Monday, 21 Nov 2022 at 4:27pm

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wax-on-danielson Monday, 21 Nov 2022 at 9:42am

Does it cost the same as a normal blank?

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udo Tuesday, 6 Jun 2023 at 7:36am

6’2” S = 75,00 € = $121 AuD

6’4” F = 88,00 €

6’7” S = 85,00 €

7’4” M = 99,00 €

9’4” RK = 140,00 €

9’9” RK = 148,00 €

(all prices are without tax !)
Blanks Available in Aust towards end of this Year

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udo Tuesday, 6 Jun 2023 at 10:12am
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udo Sunday, 25 Jun 2023 at 8:44am
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lostdoggy Friday, 8 Dec 2023 at 3:10pm
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udo Friday, 8 Dec 2023 at 3:32pm