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Hey Sypkan and Indo, Have you muppets worked who fucking lost this election yet? Those Trump supporters not accepting the result are just moronic fuckwits with zero respect for democracy.
And you two cookers don't seem to have a problem with them.

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Trumpmania...will ramp some more again...but why reward a cheat & loser ?
We relate to this absurd anomaly in much the same way as Beatlemania.

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Buying a ticket or vomiting on 2nd LP entitles the Fan to guaranteed satisfaction.
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Only Trump would disagree with that!

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hey braindead, your antifa mates spent the last four years violently protesting and not accepting the result of trump's election. so by your own logic, they too are moronic fuckwits with zero respect for democracy

can you really not see the double standards that you are constantly pushing?

...no you can't, because you are brainwashed and braindead

whoever won the election, people have every right to protest in the street. people do not have the right to beat people up for their beliefs. that is a seriously dangerous road to go down against the basic tenets of democracy, but you won't understand that either, you are literally incapable of grasping anything outside of your brainwashed bubble

I said I was out but I couldn’t help it, I checked the thread and was both very humbled by posts with kind words and re-ignited by a couple of other ones.

Thanks to everyone who was supportive and complimentary to me on here I genuinely appreciate it and I reciprocate the sentiment. I feel bad I did not include more names of characters that I think offer good perspective and an interest in conversation, namely Blowin. Contrary to the beliefs and/or wishes of some, I am not Blowin’s proxy, but I will take it as a compliment.

Stu, you and your partners deserve respect for your creation Swellnet. Swellnet is a very impressive achievement. Credit where it is due.

That said, you mentioned what you have been reading on social media, ever wondered if you are in a positive feedback loop? Perhaps the information curated and delivered to you has blown your perspective way out of proportion? Food for thought, mate. Echo chambers and feedback loops are not good for an objective perspective.

Regarding AOC’s comments, “Trump sycophants” doesn’t mean political crooks. You could use the term to describe anyone who voted trump. I’m all for holding crooks to account and I hate to argue over semantics but what she said was not “lets archive evidence to hold all the political crooks responsible for this ridiculous situation to account” like you seem to suggest. Perhaps ‘cointelpro’ was running the idea out a bit I admit, I should’ve stuck with ‘Section A Reserve Index’.

And Stu, my bad for only criticising a handful of mega public personalities, thanks for helping me realise I should have been criticising... well, far more people, I guess. If I was staying for longer I would’ve criticised more big names, next up would’ve been Mitch McConnell for blocking Obama from appointing Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court and his other senate abuses for GOP partisan gains. But alas...

Finally, something I found interesting about your words “So call me suspicious”, I reckon in this context the word “suspicious” is a synonym for biased. Being one of the umpires on here, perhaps you should consider keeping your suspicions a little less thinly veiled. Just my opinion though.

Michael Bourne, going on unrelated tangents that falsely imply racism in others is actually you using the misfortune, injustice and oppression of real victims for your own virtue signalling. Allss you can seees is blue mist and racism everywhere ayyye maaatteey. Even where it isn’t aayye mayyttteey.

In all seriousness though, if indigenous culture is something you are interested in Curtin University runs a free course on Nyoongar culture and language. Here is a link with info about the course

The term ‘Right wing’ is no more of a pejorative than ‘Left wing’. Unless you have some political prejudice twisting your rationality. Having a preference is fine, thinking you are superior is another thing.

And Facto, you figured out Google translate, good for you...

El hombre triste y patético llamado Facto, la negatividad que emite ha formado una masa latente que lo romperá, tarde o temprano.

Good on you to those who are keeping it real on here, keep it up. I don’t know how you can stand it but much respect.

My last action, the best description I have heard or read of reasons why so many people chose to vote against the DNC. It’s funny and accurate IMO, from Bill Maher... legend.

Indo, firstly I agree that citizen groups from both sides have acted poorly and created further chaos and division.
Both sides also had the right to be in a public place and voice conflicting points of view.
That Bill Maher clip is on point sickaz.

Nah, not Blowy, Sickaz is real.

Blowy woulda cracked by now.

Again, hope i'm not wrong.

Rumbled....lol.

That’s the gheyest shit I’ve ever heard. Internet mean girl telling someone to fuck off from a website . You have to see it to believe it.

Speak your mind and ignore these angry old wymen Sickaz. Or not.

A sixty year old dickless wonder telling someone to fuck off from the internet.....gotta laugh . Oi .....lol. Lol lol

@Vic Local

Obviously you have a short memory.

2016 there was Anti trump protest after he was elected obviously in the USA but even around the world including in Australia

"Protesters gather in Melbourne to protest against election of Donald Trump"
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/protesters-gather-in-melbour...

And in the USA in a number of cases these protest turned violent without any encouragement from pro trump groups.

Although media did report "The protest was mostly peaceful until demonstrators met with an anarchist group, after which demonstrators vandalized buildings, kicked cars and knocked out power, KGW-TV reported." (from link below)

Um i wonder who these anarchist groups could be????

"Anti-Trump protests, some violent, erupt for 3rd night nationwide"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/11/11/anti-trump-protest...

"A demonstration of about 6,000 people blocked traffic in Oakland, California, police said.

Protesters threw objects at police in riot gear, burned trash in the middle of an intersection, set off fireworks and smashed store front windows."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-10/protests-break-out-in-response-to...

And well there is also this very long list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_protests_against_Donald_Trump

The funniest thing is that story of mine you can’t forget was actually anti-violence but yourself and your silly old gym matron, name dropping , never was never will be broke back missus were never clever enough to figure that out.

The key to reading the back and forth between yourself and Lifty is to realise that it’s really a love story. Two men who harbour a secret desire for each other which they are afraid to admit to themselves, let alone the people around them. Instead it’s all nudge nudge wink wink . Inside jokes and the internet equivalent of pats on the arse on the way to the post game showers.

It’s especially cute when your camp old queen mate leaps to your defence. I wonder if his missus knows what’s up between you two lonesome cowboys ?

Remember the other day when he demanded I respect you because you’re so popular .....that was some gut bustingly funny shit.

Poor little blowie!!! Absolutely gutted, crushed, deserted, and told to shut the fuck up with his stupid drivvle, by his backstory mmmmaaayytte, stupe’, goes the all time home and away does neighbors pitiful sob story... and is going for ever!!!! Again and again and again...

Poor little blowie, famous for being an expert on getting pissed, and that’s it. Joins in the fitness thread to tell everyone about getting pissed. And that’s it. All time wanker, searching for mates on line. Except the last one he reckons he ‘knew’ from easta albs didn’t know him from a bar of soap... again and then told him what a good bloke facto is, and how in surf that blowie is helpless in, facto charges. So guess what, out came the red mist!!!! Swillnut extraordinaire!!!!

Can we cut the ad hominem attacks?

I don't care what you say about me, Uppy - in fact I'm not even sure what you're saying - but from yourself and a few other players, the personal abuse towards other forum users has gotta stop. If it doesn't then posts will be dissappeared.

Complain about that all you want.

Even the ones where you let ya maaayytees call my wife a slut and whore?

No, I wouldn't allow that, but then I've never read it either, and no-one has ever sent an email to us suggesting we remove posts calling your wife those names. Not defending anyone, I just haven't seen proof of the transgression.

OK, but c'mon, if we could all just drop the references to other commenters and their private lives.

sypkan can read...
tbb cited Trump's Post Election win & even bigger rallies for Trump supporters.

tbb also campaigned for Sickaz resurrection. Welcome Back!
Regardless of politics any of the crew would back Sickaz.
As with Sickaz & crew we each wave thru a few sidewinders.

AEC can vouch 100% for tbb's political neutrality...are you allowed to say that?
Despite this... tbb has served his community as a scrutineer & run 2 Campaigns.
Yes! Attend & support Rallies.
Thanked & gifted handcrafted emblematic souvenirs to each local Liberal politician.
To a lesser extent thanked & gifted ALP similar handcrafted emblematic Souvenirs.

tbb clearly respects Democracy & welcomes views from every Party.

Approve of Free speech > Pandemic Rallies frighten locals & would do so here.
Note BLM mini Rallies copped a blast by attendees of this Mega Rally breach?

Trump's (Fake) Official Election Defense Fund...is the ticking bomb.

Never has a President denied electoral ($10m) democratic funds for a transition.
All while the President pockets Post electoral accounts to defend countless lies.
Trump's undemocratic Fake Fund sells off Presidency to the highest bidder.
Election Day / Votes bypassed. Donate to High Rollers after party for President.
2020 Republican Democracy = Deny Dem' funds & Bankroll Republican Judges.
That, right there is the day Democracy died!

World smells the stench of a corrupt Billy Graham Televangelism Revival.
World watched the Televangelist conjure up [ STOP THE STEAL ] Zombie Cult.

Trump steals $11,000 from each donor + whips up the Super Pandemic Spread.
Stop Trump's Fake [ STOP THE STEAL ] Fund before Democracy times out.
Electoral Commission sanctioning such a rort spells death of Democracy in itself.

PS:
Past Republican Presidents / current Rep Sen' are congratulating Biden...not tbb.
Rep' leaders are the one's shitting on [ Stop the Steal ] Rally...take it up with them.

Trump fast tracked the death of Democracy from day one > Now a Trump Dynasty
Note supporters already "Flag Trump Forever". No joke! That 2 term thing is dead!

sypkan ...you're clearly messin' with the wrong guy as complete reverse is true.
tbb's is a zombie from the neck down but brains are perfectly fine to eat.

You really do have to wonder.
What is it when people don't accept the result of a fair democratic election?

In my circle of friends and family we talk about how fragile democracy really is and especially so with popularism and people like Johnson and Trump. Trump is in a league of his own constantly attacking the pillars that glue a functioning society together.

Melanie Albright in her new book makes the very point my family/friends have discussed at length and that is Hitler was elected to power by a popular vote, he didn't initially seize power, he was elected.

So I have some questions for you Trump apologists: To satisfy your narrow minded ideological views of the world how far are you prepared to let a megalomaniac like Trump and his supporters go? Do you really believe in democracy or as some Republicans are now openly saying America is not a democracy.

FFS somethings should be bigger that ideology but only if you really do believe in the democratic process.

America is a constitutional republic GS. Some historical research required.

Though one that looks more than a little like an oligarchy at times, VJ!

It's also an oligarchy/plutocracy. Did you know 12,000 or so lawyers on K street write the policy that congress passes? Not congress itself. (and that this largely stopped/was dramatically slowed over the last 4 years) They are not employed by congress, either.

The constitutional republic was not a democracy. Over time the franchise has been extended.

Democracy among many things heavily relies on a solid bureaucracy / institutions,

Trump attacking / dismantling / defunding US institutions while mug punters cheer him on is a serious threat.

India is a case in point with diversity on steroids created a democracy largely on the solid bureaucracy the English left behind.

Good points re fragility of democracy. I heard a really interesting discussion on ABC RN about South American countries going from hard socialism to extreme religious / hard right populism and back again. The pendulum swung from one extreme to another with classic liberalism never getting a look in.
Human rights abuses and corruption were rampant under both styles of government.
The warning signs are pretty bloody obvious under Trump, ( and a little less obvious under Scumo but there none the less).
It's frightening how the Trump fans are so comfortable pissing away our western democratic principles built up over decades. They are marching in the street demanding a president stay in power despite losing an election. That's straight out of the South American political playbook of the 1980s.

"You really do have to wonder.
What is it when people don't accept the result of a fair democratic election?"

seriously guysmiley - trump democraticaly elected

an election met with 'the resistance' for four years...

a movement even advocated by you, that flat out refused to 'legitimise' his presidency for four years...

a movement that egged on, dismissed and denied the violent protests of their antifa offsping for four years...

a media entertainment industrial complex that has tried to undermine his presidency at every whimsical opportunity for four years...

a legacy media that even spruiked china's authoritarian rule as the way forward amidst a global pandemic of their doing...

an opposition that concocted various questiionable means to remove him from office for four years...

...and you have the cheek to ask...

"Do you really believe in democracy?"

seriously dude, this is some weird parallel universe shit you are pushing

"...So I have some questions for you Trump apologists: To satisfy your narrow minded ideological views of the world how far are you prepared to let a megalomaniac like Trump and his supporters go?"

mate, I don't know how many times I need to say this, for many many people it is not about trump at all. trump is an absolute abomination, it's been shown many times his base is actually very small

it is about the behaviour and hypocrisy of the other side

people don't like hypocrisy and fuckwits

and 'the left' - the contemporay version of it anyway - is chock full of both!

I think for the trump haters, that john mahar video can explain all things trumpy better than I can...

he's dead fucking right

"the guy smiley circle of friends and family" in furious agreement about the threat to democracy... now theres an image for your nightmares

I don't like trump

and I even don't dislike antifa much at all

as joe rogan and others have pointed out, I actually feel sorry for them. they have been educated, manipulated, and whipped into a frenzy, by a machine that has no interest in their future's or demands at all. a machine that has used them up in the ugliest sense of the word

it is the hypocrisy of the media I dislike

I abhor it, and think that that is the real danger to democracy

sypkan. Clinton conceded and the Dems handed over power peacefully. The transition period was completed in good faith and done in the best interest of the country.
I put it to you that the while people were pissed at the result, the "resistance" had it's genesis in Trump's mad actions, not the fact he was democratically elected as president. The lies and "alternative facts" started on day 1.
The country is a mess, Trump is refusing to go, and those who expressed concern about his regime where fucking right.
And BTW, the dems never encourage violence by BLM or Antifa. That's just a figment of mad Trump fans.
Your perspective is truly weird.

I agree.

the big diff is Trump is the head of state here.

Clinton conceded and power was transferred peacefully.

Amicable transition:

Bill Clinton also conceded but it wasn't peacefully: his team stole every 'W' key off White House keyboards.

Dubya's middle initial.

speaking of fuckwits...

mate it's this constant spin and hypocrisy of the daily propaganda media battle that is the problem. a battle that you are a massive part of...

I don't want to engage with you. your bias and constant campaining is off the charts, it's people like you that are the problem

winning the daily news cycle at all costs

winning the battle, ...whilst losing the war...

you are irrepairable

your perspective is worthless and damaging

I've asked you before, please don't engage with me personally, and I will extend you the same courtesy

carry on...

'winning'

Mate, I'm just calling bullshit when it's obvious. Trump's absolute callous disregard for facts has destroyed the USA. People's inability to call it out, while pointing their fingers at the boogeymen BLM and Antifa, is part of the problem.
sypkan, just once, I'd like to see you (and your fellow travellers) admit Trump has lost the election and he should do everything in his power to ensure a peaceful and orderly transition of power. This really shouldn't be that hard to do, but it seems you'd rather have teeth pull without anaesthetic.

"I agree.

the big diff is Trump is the head of state here.

Clinton conceded and power was transferred peacefully"

she had no choice freeride, the election was legitimate (as much as it could be...). she was a day or two late conceding (due to being 'shattered' or something) ...but she got there, slowly... eventually...

however the campaign to 'not legitimize' trump's presidency started from day one, and has continued even now

trump will concede when it is clear it's all over (he has already hasn't he?)

his questions regarding the legitimacy of the election were not that outrageous. the machine did everything in it's power - and I mean everything!! - to sway the election biden's way, and it still went down to the wire

there was plenty of smoke, and at a minimum, trump has exposed the many flaws of the amercan election process ie. states making up their own rules to sway favour at every opportunity

as stunet said way back, thank god for the AEC

(or somethung to that effect)

just once...

if you actually read my posts - rather than interpreting them through your miserable 'lens' of assumptions - I have accepted the result on various occasions, but only suggested we need to let the process of dispute run its course

your assumptions are miserable

your bias is out of this world

and your perspective is worth less than 100 rupiah coin

you are broken and dangerous, and like much of 'the left', in need of some serious self reflection...

bye

Personally don't like Trump and what he has done (or not done) throughout his presidency, but does he have to concede? Can you not see what he is doing? Does he not have until mid January to move on and hand over? Whilst no other president has behaved in this manner, is what he is doing actually "illegal" or whatever, so why are some of you (mostly VL) getting so hotheaded about it all? It's fucking astounding how worked up you get over something like this.

pretty sure Clinton conceded on election night, happy to be proven wrong.

"but does he have to concede?"
Fitzroy, that's a common convention across western democracies. The loses rings the winner to concede. It legitimises the victor's win and helps with the orderly transition of power.
Not conceding is seriously dangerous, especially in a country where people have access to military grade weapons and their heads are filled with conspiracy theories. Not conceding is what tin pot dictators do.

sorry freeride, you're wrong...

she didn't even have 'the decency' to make it to the stage election night. leaving podesta to do her dirty work, sending thousands of shattered supporters home with false hopes, whilst they worked out what to do next

then she emerged a day or two later with their russian ruse concoction

this no doubt only contributed to the triggeredness and craziness that has followed

Hey Guy Smiley, my recollection is that Hitler and the Nazis never won an election. They ran and failed dismally the first attempt, then secured the most votes in the next election but didn't hit the required number of seats. Adolf put pressure on the Kaiser to install him Chancellor but the old boy refused and wanted him to try and form a coalition. The Nazis then set fire to the Reichstag, blamed the Communists, cried havoc, and the Kaiser relented. That's how they came to power, It doesn't change the point you make about peoples apathy as democracy is eroded and trashed, this time out of spite at losing.

those brit remainers took it on the chin..

Best as I can find out she conceded publicly the next morning.

“Last night, I congratulated Donald Trump and offered to work with him on behalf of our country,” Clinton said. “I hope that he will be a successful president for all Americans. This is not the outcome that we wanted or worked so hard for, and I’m sorry that we did not win this election…. But I feel pride and gratitude for this wonderful campaign that we built together. This vast, diverse, creative, unruly and energized campaign. You represent the best of America, and being your candidate has been one of the greatest honors of my life.”

That seems a pretty clear point of difference between her and Trump.

We might have different perspectives on democracy though.

I want US democracy to succeed because I'd rather USA than China be the biggest bully in the Pacific sandpit.

Trump not conceding is not the problem. Trump promoting the big destructive lie that the Democrats stole the election by counting postal votes is the problem.
If someone in your own personal life promotes a big destructive lie to create problems for someone they want to fail, that is a really nasty and malicious thing to do. Trump and his pals are doing that on a grand scale.

The fact that the Republicans have been the ones to shamelessly gerrymander, voter suppress and have recently been busy removing voting machines and post boxes from Democrat voting districts and yet accuse the Dems of trying to steal the election, well it’s a bit rich.

Clinton conceded after the media (AP and others called it) just like most before her.

The problems with Trumps delay is the transition from one administration to another, the problems and misses that led to 9/11 were in part due to the delayed transition from Bill the fornicator to Bush, what could go wrong?.

In Bushes case 100,000's of deaths and the Middle East in flames.

Trumps continued delays / divisive language is on no benefit to the US and note the Republicans are happy to let him burn the house down should they need a scape goat.

On a side note.
Note this report https://www.rand.org/pubs/working_papers/WRA516-1.html on the Trends in Income From 1975 to 2018 and weep.

As Keating said "the Democrats should hang their heads in shame" in regards to income growth for middle and lower income earners.

The Republicans on the other hand including Trump are straight out fu(king criminals.

Trump may well be within his right to not concede as yet & allow due process, but it’s his incredibly inflammatory and accusatory language that he is using (often via Twitter) in the interim which is simply adding fuel to the fire. It’s not leadership & it’s not helpful to the greater good going forward, regardless of the outcome.

that seems straightforwards to me, but I guess the other viewpoint seems to be, yeah Trump is a dickhead but the others are worse?

"Adolf put pressure on the Kaiser to install him Chancellor but the old boy refused and wanted him to try and form a coalition. "

You are thinking of Hindenburg, perhaps. The Kaiser abdicated more than a decade earlier. Here's a copy of the Hun Speech anyway:

http://ghdi.ghi-dc.org/sub_document.cfm?document_id=755

Will you two stop it.
She started it.
No I didn't he did.

Do you know how fucking pathetic all of that above sounds spykan?

As I asked before now put in even clearer words - What do you stand? what values are in your guts? what are you prepared to walk past for the sake of your political ideology?

Trump is a megalomanic everyday of the week who operates on the basis of the more controversy he can generate the better so don't whinge here about the reception he got over the last 4 years - it's exactly what he wanted.

Far right politics 101 create as much fear and division as possible by creating enemies - its always someone else's fault: the media, the swamp, the communists/ socialists/ left, the fake news, BLM movement blah blah blah.

You forgot the grift GS. As much as I despise Trump, I feel absolutely no sympathy for the fucking idiots donating to his election legal challenge fund.

well that's your opinion guysmiley

I'm entitled to mine

none of that is 'pathetic' actually. it is a statement of events, ...'facts' if you will...

my 'political ideology' is very similar to yours from what I can gather, ...despite the usual nutjobs trying to label me as otherwise...

which is a large part of the problem. certain folk have been 'educated' and trained like monkeys to delegitimise opposing voices. to tear down vehemently, and deplatform, anyone who doesn't conform 100% to the cultist dogma. trained to 'us and them' anyone at all with the gumption to say...

'errr, hang on a minute'

some are smart enough to know what they are doing, ...but do it anyway...

and some are so thick and brainwashed they don't even realise the monkey training they've been exposed to, and how it is basically undermining their whole cause in the process

trump is 'the great disruptor and chief'. he was voted in solely to stir shit up, to question the norms, to challenge the status quo... the fact some of you get so butt hurt about him not following conventions just shows you have learnt little, and accepted nothing. I don't mean to pick on thermalben, but when he's all flabberghasted about trump ' not being very presidential', I think to myself... where the fuck have you been the last four years?

trump's whole schtick is to challenge the career politicians and their conventions. to turn a corrupted system on it's head. this really is revolutionary stuff. a revolution without bullets (largely), to challenge the status quo, as the status quo, is not, and has not, been delivering for large swathes of the community for a long long time

"What do you stand? what values are in your guts? what are you prepared to walk past for the sake of your political ideology?"

the values in my guts are about truth, integrity, and trying to restore some faith in a system that is full of bullshit, hubris, and propaganda

trump should have been a blip, a wake up call, a reality check, but 'libtards' (...that's neolibtards from my perspective...) got so caught up in all the trumpyness, they cannot see the forest for the trees, and doubled down on all sorts of ridiculousness. bunkering down in this 'whose side are you on?' mentality

frankly, they embarrassed themselves, time and time again, as trump kept them in a permanent state of triggeredness, unable to think straight, angry, reactionary, jumping af shadows, ...exaxtly where he wants them... so he can slide his agenda through the backdoor whilst they are preoccupied. it was a class of masterstroke actually

even when they realised what he was doing, and whinged, and lamented, and wrote about it in detail, the very next day, they were all there again, outraged and reacting to a whole new controversy...

what am I prepared to walk past?

lots, if the condescending hubrics aren't willing to learn anything

and, lots and lots, if the righteous are so full of hypocrisy and bullshit they offer no better alternative than the devil himself

call me idealistic, call me naive, but the hypocrisy coming from certain quarters grates so much, so so much, it's better the devil you know, than the devil that flat out lies, cheats, and decieves, whilst painting themselves as 'our better angels'

hypocrisy...

"...In the process, Gervais neatly illustrated exactly why so many people so resent the increasingly ritualized ceremonial sanctimony. Because it turns out that this may be exactly what makes people hate hypocrites so much: They fool us into giving them credit for holding potentially costly moral beliefs without actually paying those costs.

A 2017 paper from the journal Psychological Science reported a series of experiments demonstrating that we give people moral credit for condemning bad behavior — more credit than we give them for just stating that they themselves behave morally. But by the same token, we resent people who condemn others while privately indulging the same vices even more than we resent those who falsely claim to do the right thing. In fact, the people they studied seemed willing to give people a pass on hypocrisy if they admitted they didn’t live up to their own ideals.

What bothers us most, this suggests, is not the disconnect between values and behavior, something we’re all guilty of, but rather trying to gain social status by pretending to be more moral than you are. And that is precisely what Hollywood so often seems to do. It complains about the patriarchy, and then we find out it was sheltering a Harvey Weinstein; it lectures us on global warming while quietly flying around on private jets.

Hypocrisy isn’t the worst vice, but it is one of the most grating, especially from them. The people on that stage are already better looking than most mere mortals, and richer, and more famous, and better loved. But somehow that isn’t enough; they also want credit for being more moral than everyone else, and there they cross the line."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ricky-gerva...

it's interesting that comedians seem to be the only ones who understand this...

are gervais and mahar RWNJs too?

You can't argue with stupid (EDIT) VicLocal