The United States(!) of A

Australian govt advice is

wow, thats crazy.

oh come on, it is oz government...

they issue pretty much the same warning to bali every second year

You know when the Caps lock button is stuck on that "losing" is the most bitter of pills to swallow...

"So it's worth keeping in mind just how the process would have to go for this to end up in the Supreme Court. Trump and the Republican party can't just call up the Supreme Court and ask them to intervene.

If they think something has gone wrong, they'll need to file a lawsuit in the relevant state of federal court first. From there, the case could then make its way up to the Supreme Court after several decisions and appeals from both sides.

At that point, the Supreme Court would then have to first decide if it would even hear the case (it doesn't have TOTAL power over anything and everything in the US)....then it might decide on that case.

But a few things here.

First, there is no evidence of widespread fraud, malpractice or shifty stuff happening at this election. There just isn't. Like I've been telling you folks, even the conservative Fox News is saying they are investigating the allegations from the Trump campaign and can't find the evidence to back it up. Sure that could change, but the Trump campaign is yet to releasing anything convincing.

Second, the Supreme Court wouldn't just take a case about "the election". It would be ruling on a specific instance of something happening during the election — for example like ballots being counted that arrived late in one state or observers not being given access in another. A ruling on one of those things wouldn't affect a ruling on the other.

Which bring me to my third and final thing — it's just not close enough in enough states for any of that to matter. In 2000 the Supreme Court ruling decided the election because Florida was THE state that decided the election. It ALL came down to that one state...and the ruling affected the tiny number of ballots that eventually decided the state. Trump is losing in LOTS of places by LOTS of votes. He might win a victory on some provisional ballots in Pennsylvania. But even if ALL of those ballots are thrown out, Joe Biden is leading by more than 37,000 votes in the state and it's growing. Joe Biden is also leading in Nevada, Arizona, Georgia yada yada yada.

Trump would need massive legal victories in multiple states at this stage to overturn this. Some were concerned that the election would be close enough that a Supreme Court decision like Florida in 2000 would decided this election.

But it's just not close, and it's American voters who've decided instead."

A good day. Slappy McFuckstick officially gets the arse and the Kooky Crime Family are out of the peoples house in the USA. Dan the man lifts the ring of steel so the Melbourne frothers can finally get to the ocean and huey is going to turn it on on the beaches for them. The suns out. I'm owed a heap of cash. My cat just had the stitches out and the bucket off her head. The dogs pumped. Day off work. Good times.

I hate to go all pedantic on you there westof...

but who are you quoting?

yourself? (please don't go all facto on us...)

...regardless, its all very true, but there is a process, and it needs to be followed. if trump's got something, and it makes it to the supreme court, then good for him...

if he hasn't got shit, it won't get anywhere, so be it... that's the process...

he has had some small wins in court though, we'll see what he's actually got regarding 'fraud'

fucked if I would concede atm, especially with the 'glitch' that's just been reported, even at politico, doesn't look good. it's probably nothing, but if you were trump, wouldn't you want to know?

there's quite a bit of stuff that doesn't look good tbh, in such a tight toxic election, the people have a right to know that it was conducted in a manner as fair as it could be, which is almost impossible with the american system, where state rules are adjusted in the eleventh hour...

but it's a process that needs ti be followed. the bigger issue is trust rather than the partisan toxicity, there's no trust in either side for non partisan people

Yea syppo, just the abc live blog dude...who should know what he is talking about.

@adam, there's some good news right there.

good commentary on insiders this morning

stan grant smashed it, as usual

(displaying he's the only objective journalist left...)

oz's american ambassador got caught out big time on 'consensus'

(no scandal, just interesting...)

and rudd and turnball got all loose and flippant

(despite both displaying the faces of stoic broken men...)

and, china is fucked and out in the cold regardless of everything...

not a bad day at all

“Reconsider their need to travel” & “do not travel” are not pretty much the same thing

3-5ft ain’t 6-8ft either

you're right shoredump

but bali has also had plenty of 'do not travel' warnings over the last 20 years as well

they're pretty abitrary generic statements that kick in when certain conditions arise

VL you’re sounding pretty certain of yourself that there will be mass violence shortly.
Happy to admit it if you get it wrong?

Hell yes goofyfoot. I'm always happy to admit when I get my facts wrong or when my predictions don't come about.
The absolute best way to reduce the chances of post election violence is for the cult leader to tell his followers it was a free and fair election and he lost.
When Trump is telling his nutter followers that they were robbed, the chances of violence go way up. I have zero confidence that Trump will admit he is a loser.
Do I think there will be mass scale organised violence? No. Do I think there will be a lot of lone wolf right wing extremist mass shootings over the next few months? Yes.
The way I see it, there's been a big uptick in right wing political violence in the USA. And that's when they've had their man in the White House. I simply can't see things improving when the hated Dumbocrats own the tent.

Hopefully your predictions don’t come true, but really if it does happen it’s probably not surprising is it. The joints a mess

Reminder that 350 election court cases are in play right now.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-03/300-lawsuits-already-have-been-fi...

During the Count at least 50 more cases were filed in swing states.

Monday a further 50 sworn watchers testify to file cases...400 cases & growing.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-says-election-far-o...

Trump has 8,500 lawyers on tap.
https://thecanadian.news/2020/11/05/trump-prepares-legal-battle-and-hire...

Trump: "Beginning Monday, our campaign will start prosecuting our case..."
https://www.mcalesternews.com/region/text-of-statement-from-president-do...

(vs)

If Trump concedes he goes to Jail...("A bit melodramatic tbb!" ...Yeah! you, think?)
Once Trump loses Presidency, he losing immunity from his Trillion Billion crimes.

Tax Fraud = Trillion lawsuits
Rape Charges = Million Me Too lawsuits
Pussy Groping = Gazillion lawsuits
Hush Money = Trillion lawsuits
Bribe Allegations = Trillion lawsuits
Campaign Fraud = Billion Trillion lawsuits
Loan Scams = Billions lawsuits
Insurance Scams = Billions lawsuits
Defamation = Gazillion lawsuits
Bullying of Apprentice Groupies = Million lawsuits
Trumps Family Rorts = Million lawsuits
Trumps Family suing each other = Gazillion lawsuits
Charity Fraud = Trillion lawsuits
Outstanding Legal Bills = Millions lawsuits

Trump will need his 8,500 lawyers + 1 Billion more!
Losing the Presidency would bruise his ego but losing freedom is not an option.

As Trump said...he is now bigger than the Republican Party...
Republicans must cower behind their false idol...& don't they hate it!
Each one has run outta words & talk shit to cover up his mounting crimes.
Sooner than later they'll defeat themselves...it's way too exhausting to live a lie.

Murdoch & cronies are free to dump him...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/07/trump-vulnerable...

This is why Trump locksdown in poshest house behind 3 perimeter fences.
He is installing a Family Dynasty as in China & North Korea...he wanks over it!
News [ Trump keeps joking of serving endless consecutive terms ] Once is a joke!
Aides inform the case monthly for over 2 years...(Dumbarses still think he's joking).

And the world breathed a sigh of relief. Don't let the door knock your toupee off on the way out Chump.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/lifestyle/aussies-return-to-bali-200807...

I can’t remember the “do not travel” advice for bali, but would assume it was in place directly around the bombings. I tried to find it but couldn’t.
That article talks about lifting of the long standing “reconsider their need to travel” 12 years ago.

It’s significant that the US has reached this point

Travel warnings at this time would obviously be ramped up a bit higher than normal due to the fact the government doesn't want people traveling anyway.

Im extremely surprised that im not seeing my social media feeds full of riots and nothing coming up with a google search, it's Saturday in USA and now late arvo to night, surely today would be the day shit would hit the fan???

Very weird, maybe a bit early to call but seems like another Y2K moment.

If nothing happens tomorrow that's it conservatives aren't like the left most have jobs to go to on Monday.

"If nothing happens tomorrow that's it conservatives aren't like the left most have jobs to go to on Monday."
You really are an idiot Indo.

Indo, do you think it's fair to generalise and denigrate ~75 million people like that? Your faux moral superiority is pretty naive, ignorant and ugly mate.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/nov/07/trump-defeat-election

This is a really interesting piece, discussing how the democrats have moved to the right over the last 3 decades or so and in doing so have lost the traditional working class voters they used to represent.

Spot on TBB,
I'll bet a carton of Coop's Pale Ale Melania will be visiting her divorce lawyer on Monday morning now that this First Lady gig is done with....

Ha Ha megzee, Melania better get in before Trump's creditors do.

ha ha obviously a little tongue in cheek little bit of fishing.

But it is still kind of true to an extent, a percentage of the modern left these days especially that left wing uni student type, have made social justice and protest come virtue signalling be it online or on the streets almost a hobby/activity/sport, we even see groups paying people at the higher levels via donations to basically motivate and ensure things happen on the streets and there is many that have become serial protestors, we even see it in Australia, same core group of people at every protest.

They are very organised and very motivated, if Trump had won these groups would be leading protest that turn into riots right now.

Conservatives dont really have this organised type of culture, even the groups they have that people want to label this or that are really more just boys clubs excuses to drink beer with the boys.

It's harder to get them all motivated as one, i still would have expected they would have got motivated to hit the streets and riot though, they normally do for big occasions.

But seems not, go figure.

Anyway going to get wet, last surf before Melb crowds hit.

"Im extremely surprised that im not seeing my social media feeds full of riots and nothing coming up with a google search, it's Saturday in USA and now late arvo to night, surely today would be the day shit would hit the fan???"

Info never disappoints, always aims to satisfy ...... Hey settle down info your'e pushing too hard there

^^^

Indo Dreaming: Talks absolute shit.
Others: Call out his BS
Indo Dreaming: Says he's only joking and then backs up his stereotypical bullshit with more stereotypical bullshit.

When’s the next drop on that critically important Hunter Biden laptop issue?

FBI must be expediting that one!

;-)

sadly we won't see much more of that etarip

a bit more than sadly actually, because that's at the core of what jq's article is on about

the third way bullshit and how it has fundamentally failed. not just failed, but often enriched all the wrong people

and the dems answer is...

insert biden

biden is the absolute embodiment of it

Breaking News ....... pro Trump Proud Boys rally descends into chaos on bridge in Illinois

I don't feel like a different dem candidate would have been able to beat trump. Any further left policies - the type that could actually go some way to helping the working class - would have been mercilessly attacked, even more so than Biden was.

Even Biden was greeted with swivel-eyed 'socialism' nut jobbery. The guy is so far from socialist it's not funny.

You've got to understand that the 'third way' crap was largely a response to the environment that politics was and is existing in. Yes the democrats, and other left wing parties, abandoned some of their principles and constituents, but this was the cost of actually being elected. No use having wonderful effective policies if you never get to implement them (see The Greens for more information).

Meanwhile Trump's organisation is sending out EDMs to supporters seeking donations to fund the election law suits. That's next level grifting. Just wait, the little shit goblin Avi the wife basher Yemini will be doing the same soon.
Fuck me these people are shameless.

You won’t hear anything about the laptop because it was bollocks all along.

It’s a sad state of affairs when what should be a coherent criticism of ‘Establishment Biden’ is eschewed in favour of hyped up, unsubstantiated smear.

That was standard rims for Trump’s GOP though.

I think that the DNC had at least one candidate who could have inspired enough voters to beat trump, Tulsi. It’s sad, defeatist, reactionary, negative and a lesser of two evils scenario to think that a decrepit ex Obama VP is the ONLY way to get enough voters inspired to get the DNC a victory over Trump.

Try harder DNC, if you hadn’t wasted the last 4 years you might have been able to beat a president, who many of the people who voted for him can’t stand him, with candidates who actually care about making meaningful change. Easy pickings, as long as you don’t put up a couple of candidates as off putting as Biden/Harris.

I get it Trump has a loyal fan base, many of whom are nut jobs, I get, and maybe I’m am an optimist but I like to think that most people are smart enough to see a good option and a bad one. This election forced people to pick between two terrible options and that was largely in part to the DNC primary shenanigans and their holier than thou righteousness that they know better than their constituents. My opinion anyway.

In my opinion Joe Biden/Kamala Harris and Trump/Pence are both so uninspiring and horrible that many voters chose the option they hated less instead of the option that they liked the most.

There are many valid reasons to think that a Biden presidency is a worse prospect than Trump and vice versa, when you consider policies, past results, powerful forces involved in the parties, etc, you are splitting hairs IMO. To assume all Trump supporters are dumb, ignorant, racist, deplorable is well, dumb, ignorant, prejudiced and deplorable.

Satirical but crazy that as slim a chance as it is, ALMOST impossible indeed, but there is a possibility out the that Joe Biden could have Trump as his VP! Sounds crazy right, because it is crazy, but it is theoretically possible apparently.

Oh bless.
After spanking Trump , Sypkan and sickaz are handing out free advice to the DNC.
Hey blokes. Don’t wait by the phone for a DNC call requesting more advice.

You are such a smug sanctimonious fuck VL.

You mean Shrill Vocal?

You are such a smug sanctimonious fuck VL.
"Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man."

@VL

fitzroy-21 is 100% correct.

But you know what I'm not sure why but i do kind of find you endearing in a strange way, im not sure why, i think it's because you are kind of hard to take seriously, and the abuse you do throw is so throw away and generally tied in the topic at hand.

An observation, or a call to arms? Either way, what a terrible thing to proclaim.

Funny how people read into things differently.

I read into it as Trump being a smart arse, saying FK you guys you were wrong, seeing the media have been saying all hell is going to break loose if Trump loses, especially in context of the year thats been with BLM & Antifa riots/looting/ burning of buildings etc that Trump has been calling out but some governors not calling out or not even trying to prevent.

But maybe a bit too early to tweet that?

"spanking"

hardly, the dems infighting has started already it was such a marginal win

another 'soul searcher' for the left

again...

"...a call to arms..."

really?

nothing personal thermalben, but I just find it sad and pathetic that the media has whipped up such a frenzy that an intelligent person could possibly read that tweet that way

but yeh indo, way too early for that...

"nothing personal thermalben"
Oh my.
sypkan. nothing personal but " I just find it sad and pathetic that you could possibly read that tweet that way"

Nah just a big stab at BLM Ben.

once again, your miserable assumptions are warping your reality

and once again, read the words!

and stop misrepresenting reality!

SP and ID, being in a position of power - actual or perceived - comes with responsibilities.

Almost everyone associated with the Trump family have shown than they're unsuitable to hold such a position.

This isn't a partisan issue. 

sypkan, you've basically accused Ben of being easily duped by the media and said it's nothing personal.
You've also used the phrase "sad and pathetic" to describe the situation.
How again is that "nothing personal"?

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It's irrelevant what happens in court, apart from stalling until 14 Dec 2020.
Media must jump to End game & spell out the result Loud & Clear ahead of time!
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(Fine Print)...Sorry! No Aussie swellnet Gromz...
It's on public record that swellnet did try to stoke up the Red Tsunami.
Don't blame the swellnet crew if you run out outta Red waves for yer Santa Sled.

But if you want a laugh. How's the Four Seasons situation? Rudy prepared to hold a "kick arse" press conference, but they managed to book it at the wrong Four Seasons, in between a crematorium and a porn shop.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/08/the-other-four-seasons-t...

I find it pathetic that the media (and you) have whipped up such a frenzy, that any intelligent person could possibly read that tweet that way, but that is where we're at, it is truly sad that a modern supposedly so well inforned society has devoloved to this point, truly sad