Daily water consumption
In troubled times concerning bushfires... pays to get to the heart of the matter.
We thank indo-dreaming for that postcard view from the Grand Poobah Lookout
Just a 'few' google searches reveals the lack support is statewide & on the boil.
NSW Govts cut back on more than a third of NPWS Area fire managers.
Also cut back on more than a third of NPWS (preventative) fire fighters whole.
Fire fighters can escape the flames but not the smoke, as it's all encompassing.
Naturally all else is irrelevant but a decent mask, that's just to breathe.
P2 masks are shit...as they let smoke in and slowly cook yer insides.
Mask + Goggles + on own glasses + Helmet + Straps tangle & snap.
P2 masks get saturated from hose over-spray + from extreme sweat loads.
All up making it real difficult to breathe for 2hrs max....but must be worn for 12hrs.
What isn't said is that Oz Gum Tree Oils ramp heat & fumes engulfing firefighters.
Note: The intensity is ramping so even the best mask would fail...so start here.
Volunteers now work longer than paid employees & are losing wages big time.
The longer that these fires rage, it will be our finest that fall first.
Northern Rivers Byron has 6 brigades & run out of sub standard spazz P2 masks.
They rattled tins to beg for supplies for more shit gear...(How the fuck is that fair!)
Volunteer firies spend $100's of own money for fuel + $2,000 each on decent gear
They got fed up of shit P2 masks & began crowd funding for masks.($2.1m-state)
Responses from (Libs to Shiny badges to Tin Hats)
Stop politicising the fires + take that shit off line + fucking suck it up hero pussies.
Frontline fire fighters are cooking inside out while fire chiefs hose down the flames.
All we really need to know isn't it...the huge missing bit, about the fighting of fires!
Anyone else hear the distant drums of a face saving...'Captain's call'.
Awarding of Hello World Hawaii voucher to sect leader Fire Chief Mr Shiny Button.
"For hosing down fire fighters union & making our PM look only half as guilty!" Aye!
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/national-parks-left-to-burn-after-jo...
https://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/6487035/premier-lashes-nsw-fire-uni...
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/out-of-control-volunteer-firefig...
Scomo, Smoko, Scotty from Marketing ..... the (re)branding of our PM
https://m.facebook.com/theweeklytv/videos/736760290059542/?refsrc=https%...
"Actually, out of 57 countries recently rated on climate change action Australia is ranked 57th. Which is not best. Which is last. Which gives us the claim to be the worst country in the world on the most important problem facing mankind. Thanks Nero. Thanks Angus."
Actually it was ranked out of 61 countries we came 61 because we dont have any BS climate policy, and despite not having one per capita we have the highest uptake of house hold solar in the world and per capita capita last few years have the fastest uptake of renewables per capita in the world two to three times faster than any other country.
If you look at overall rating we came in 56 and to give a perspective of other countries Canada came in at 55 just above us and USA right at the bottom at 61 (China at 59)
Now that's what you call intentionally bias misleading BS media.
The real problem we face, is unlike many countries that have reliable base load energy in nuclear or even hydro, we have nothing, we are basically crossing out fingers hoping that by 10 to 15 years time battery tech improves to the point that it will be realistic and affordable. (off course if we had listened to Howard in 2006 we would have zero carbon emission base-load energy from Nuclear to compliment renewables)
We also have a very high immigration rate 1.7% of population compared to USA and UK 0.6% which fucks us up.
We could cut it to similar rates to make us look good on paper, but it would send us into a recession.
Ranking here https://newclimate.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/CCPI-2020-Results_Web_...
Just finished watching the mini-series Chernobyl . Heavy.
Probably not the best time to be canvassing support for nuclear power with its current popularity amongst binge watchers everywhere.
Chernobyl was 50 year old tech.
Nuclear tech of today is much different just like a car today is much different, safer and more reliable to a car from 50 years ago.
There is 450 operational Nuclear rectors in the world, incident are extremely rare, Australia is one of the most stable countries geographically especially Vic/NSW where we have the most demand.
I don't think it will ever happen in Aus, we missed the bus and Australians have a stereo type and fear tattooed deeply in their brain, but IMHO we fucked up, if we had listened to Howard in 2006 and we got it happening then, right now they would be operational and coupled with renewables we could have a completely realistic aim for 100% zero carbon emission energy by 2025 or 2030.
You will never get people admitting this though especially not the Greens.
"There is 450 operational Nuclear rectors in the world, incident are extremely rare, "
and the consequences of those incidents are so devastating on ecological and human scales and last for generations.
Not to mention that no-one has come up with a solution to the problem of nuclear waste.
Yeah, but nah. There are sound reasons beyond ideology to be against nuclear power.
btw : there "are".
Ya Traveston Dam thought bubble and nuclear reactor dream are both pretty fucking shit ideas Indo.
"Nuclear tech of today is much different just like a car today is much different, safer and more reliable to a car from 50 years ago."
You sound like a real estate agent for Three Mile Island.
Its true though.
Its weird how in Australia most of us have this perception of Nuclear being dangerous and scary when reality is incidents are super super rare, all our perception is based on Chernobyl
Other than Chernobyl according to Wiki there has been about another 15 deaths in Nuclear energy history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_and_radiation_accidents_and_incidents
For some perspective on the 25th December the Aussie Xmas roadkill was already up to 12 deaths, most likely already at 15 now or fair say of not by ed of new years it will be.
I guess it's like terrorism or shark attacks, kind of an irrational fear.
At the end of Chernobyl they reckon there could have been up to 90000 killed. The Soviet “ official “death toll was 31....
Apparently the 2600 square kilometres around the joint is still uninhabitable.
And if a forest fire went through that contaminated forest the radio active plume would be be another massive disaster for Europe and the whole world.
Fukushima is not over by a long shot.
People will die from cancers and birth defects for a long time yet.
Also even the latest state of the art BMW can still spin out and hit a tree.
Sorry guys I hope we stay well away from nuclear energy.
I wonder if the average mindset and fear is the same in places like France that have over 70% of their energy from Nuclear?
Admittedly even i have a little fear to nuclear, but i know its an irrational fear its like im a brainwashed kid that fears god an atheist but still has this tiny fear of god even though i know he is not real.
Funny thing is it not like its been banged into me, i guess its because i haven't ever been educated to the facts and only seen the Chernobyl stuff since i was young.
Oh well i guess we are stuck with a mix of coal and renewables until we figure out some solutions to base load and storage or switch over to gas that is super expensive.
Perhaps the answer is more simple than we think. We drive millions of cars and they all produce power. A motor home runs off auxiliary batteries and an inverter. All we need to do is have a spare battery in our cars, preferably deep cycle and a plug in affair like an anderson plug or a newer style on the towbar or in the boot next to the spare battery. On the wall in the garage is an inverter with a lead to plug into the car when you arrive home. Your inverter feeds the main switch and if you have a smart meter you even get 6c a kilowatt hour. Millions of cars feeding the grid every day. So much day and night time power you will never need another power station. This simple system will cost hardly anything and also work with petrol and electric cars. Just a thought, possibly a solution.
Nuke plants suck dry the driest continent & we fight fires with Angus premium?
Howard's GST prohibits Car/House/Road/Rail/Bridge building...how so a reactor?
So reactors are exempt from compounding 40-60% GST? Then blame Johnny!
Oz has over 50 nuked sites already & Yep! Oz fuelled the Fukushimi fuck up!
https://nuclear.foe.org.au/australias-role-in-the-fukushima-disaster/
https://www.greenleft.org.au/content/new-project-maps-australia%C3%A2%C2...
Tell us about this fairyland Nuke site that is shielded from Bush Fire catastrophe.
Indo! You're never to young or old to read recent Newspapers, or swellnet nukes!
Firstly Chernobyl victims are still cared for, but not by Oz but Ireland & US.
Qld do care for Fukushima Kidz ... least we can do since OZ poisoned them.
https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-dispatch/2019/09/12/fukushima-jap...
15th April 2018
"Out of control bush fire spreads toward Oz Nuke Reactor & army ammunitions."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5617263/Sydney-bushfire-spreads...
Jan 31, 2019 (A two car crash) blocks access to Lucas heights - Oz Nuke Plant
https://www.facebook.com/7newssydney/videos/serious-crash-at-lucas-heigh...
You don't just chuck a spent fuel rod on the back of trailer to some offshore tip.
https://www.theleader.com.au/story/5339189/shipment-of-spent-nuclear-fue...
Nor would you let TOLL tow it thru yer Neighbourhood, metres from kidz beds.
https://www.thecourier.com.au/story/5555516/nuclear-waste-shipment-leave...
So why do Libs hate Australian people so much & rank us lower than sewer rats.
Indo! "How Good are our Oz nuclear free Cities!" Libs don't respect our Cities.
Libs can't & won't fix current Oz mass Nuke pollution of Pacific Ocean.
Libs won't stop dripping Nuke Waste thru our Nuke free cities & ports & Native land
Not even Libs would argue OZ has any standards for a Nuke industry...[ No Nukes ]
humans...go figure
Indo,
Despite the fantastical thinking, nuclear was never gonna get a leg up here. It was figured there'd be a 10-15 year development and lead up time, so putting best case scenarios in place, say a year or two to find sites, draft policy etc etc. they'd be barely breaking soil when Fukushima happened.
You don't have to be a rocket surgeon to figure out how that would've effected progress.
Talk of Howard proceeding with nuclear is worthy of the authorship of a Chinese historian. Just for one nano second do you think the coal power/mining industries and their lobbyists would have sat ideally by and watched their assets become worthless?
No, Howard, ever the political sewer rat, knew it was never possible because of what punishment big coal might have dealt plus he saw what Kennett had done privatising everything he could get his hands on in Victoria and was busy doing the same thing at a federal level.
Shear fantasy but carry on ....
Sound's like Howard was serious to me he even commissioned the Switkowski report, an investigation into the merits of Nuclear power in Australia, wasn't just some sweeping stament he made to the media one Monday afternoon.
Face it Guy, Howard proposed realistic solutions way back in 2006 that were ignored.
9 to 10 years is what they say the building turn around is.
Will never happen in Australia though, and hasn't hence why we are stuck with coal for base load until?
IMHO clearly we farked up, but that's the beauty of hindsight , we have the third largest supply of uranium and a very stable country obviously if it happened today combined with a desal plant would be the go..
Bushfires wouldn't be an issue in many suitable areas, because obviously you wouldn't have a plant surrounded by bush.
@truebluebasher always two sides of a coin, imagine how much higher world carbon emissions would be if we hadn't been supplying uranium for energy needs of countries for all these years and they were using fossil fuels instead all this time.
In regard to waste everything always has a positive and a negative, but the waste from nuclear for one persons lifetime of energy needs is said to be as small as a can of coke and again being a stable country with much land, easily and safely contained.
@Optimist
Ive read that kind of idea before, but never looked into it, will have to google it to see if realistic.
Kind of seems pointless if using fossil fuel cars, burning petrol to get electricity to store in the battery though, wouldn't it just be more efficient and cheaper to just use coal?.. would emissions be lower from petrol? (probably just easier top convert coal fired power stations to gas?)
Then if its an electric car, you are getting energy from the grid for the car which you would in most cases be doing at night when you are not using it, which is exactly the time that solar doesnt produce energy which is the issue, i guess your electric car in theory could act like a battery for the grid, but it seems pointless to lug around a second battery for this anything decent would add weight and affects efficiency of the car to some extent, better off just to have the battery sitting at home.
Or am i missing your point/idea?
Politicians never hold enquires unless the outcome is already known and this goes to reason Scotty from Hawaiian Marketing voted against the banking royal commission 26 times!
Gday Indo, My idea is a "NOW" idea, its something we can do NOW to supply endless electrical energy with the cars we all drive NOW and reducing coal emissions NOW.. The cars are always producing excess power daily so why not use it when you get home and plug your second Aux. battery into the grid via an inverter.. We also have to put back the trees back NOW like these guys do.
Back on topic, The water comes with the trees and the greening of the dry places produces the evaporation and the rain. In Burkina Faso they are greening the deserts NOW so why dont we? The rain will come with the trees and the greening of the more central of Australia.
just like Israel did when they went back to their homeland after the war. They turned desert and swamps to a fertile food paradise. We can do it here NOW, we can have water and forests and energy by using what we have in our hands NOW. Its time to stop protesting and blaming Govts. they are just men and don't know it all. Lets have no more crying kids on the news told they are going to die, lets all be pro active and positive to our kids in transforming groups that regenerate land instead of blocking streets, build alternate energy sources ourselves instead of dressing up and getting all theatrical. Give the kids a vision and a hope as the future is full of solutions.I love planting clustered trees and am designing my off grid system which will include my plug in for the cars second battery to the house inverter. If the extinction rebellion became the extinction solution with all that zeal and manpower I would join. Its easy to whinge and point fingers, better to get to it and get it done ourselves.
Just got my latest water bill. Haven't managed to implement any of the major changes I'd like to do (except not washing my car, which I diligently adhered to) but average daily water usage for the current quarter was down to 363kL. Last quarter was 308kL.
That's a big drop from 484kL and 527kL previously (as per first post). Not sure what to attribute it to.
Wow, 363,000L per quarter? sure those numbers are right?
that's approx. 4,000L daily
does you're meter spin when all the taps are turned off?
Argh. Dunno why I wrote kL. Meant to be L.
Divide those numbers by one thousand!
Typical daily use per person for a house on reticulated water is 150/L/day. 120 on tank water. Reference AS1547, domestic wastewater management
Distracted - same amount for adults and kids?
If so, a four-person household would be 600L per day. We're down to 3/5 of that, almost 1/2, which is great.
The Standard doesn’t separate kids from adults. From current experience.... a teenager may use twice as much water as young kid or adult!
Water reduction features such as dual flush toilet, front load wash machine etc would bring that usage down plus not watering the garden.
Would also be seasonal changes ie long hot showers in winter and washing of muddy sports clothes etc
On Friday the Tweed Coast went into stage 2 water restrictions. I also received my water bill a few days ago so am curious how our usage stacks up, and how we can further reduce it.
During the last quarter, our average daily water usage (2 adults, 2 kids + pool) was 484L. This is down from 527L for the same time last year though is up from 408L the previous quarter.
On an individual basis (do kids use more or less water than adults?) our last quarter worked out to be 121L per person per day.
According to this article in The Conversation, average daily water consumption in Melbourne is 161L per person and 210L per person in Sydney. So we are doing well but I reckon there is room for improvement.
http://theconversation.com/why-sydney-residents-use-30-more-water-per-day-than-melburnians-117656