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Midnight oil tour tickets - $200 each !
I suppose they'll play for a couple of hours , so really it works out at an hourly rate roughly equivalent to that which the local mechanic would charge their apprentice out at.
But as someone that hasn't seen a live band in quite a while , it's a bit of a shock.
Is this the normal price to see a band these days ?
yeah, i can't adjust to these insane prices. i never go out as a result. but then i never paid even when it was $6/$4 student/unemployment. it just felt wrong -- like paying for sex. Part of the fun of seeing bands was scamming your way in. climbing throught toilet windows or having a few textas and stamp pad to make a smudged mark on your wrist, telling the door you're the bass player...that one didn't work so well when it was tracy pew standing at the door.
Still heaps of good bands to be seen free or for a reasonable price. Leave the Oils to those who missed them first time around. Big rooms are shit anyway!
I like the oils but even 15 years ago you could see them at a large pub type venue, i guess them having a break has kind of made them more popular again.
The prices suck but id still pay up, but i just don't like going to gigs in really big venues, the bigger the worse, stadium size gigs no matter who they are suck
I like my gigs at dirty little grungy pubs like the tote in Collingwood where even if your standing up the back you can still see the action, or you stand up the front and reach out and touch the stage
I'm hearing you , but I sort of feel like I've got unfinished business with the Oils...
They were one of , if not the most , impactful band on my growing self.
All those cultural touchstones and lyrics invocative of our wide , brown land. Not to mention I thought they just plain went off , as did most of my mates.
And I only went to see them once , as they were sliding into irrelevance and my world was about to be shaken by a rawer sound.
Saw them at a large venue - can't remember which - fully charged up on years of live Oils stories and footage of punters on stage with Pete as his head steamed and he raged through his gyrations.
Maybe I didn't pace myself.....but a couple of songs in and I've leapt up on the stage to rock out with a legend of my youth and security has ripped me off the stage - fair enough - but then the fuckers turfed me out on the street , rather than just let me back into the audience.
Bastards.
They can stick their $200 tickets up their arse.
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Ha ha...I had exactly the same thing happen to me at a Tumbleweed gig on the Gold Coast, but Richie the lead singer saw it happen and it was during the support bands set and he got me back in..bloody legend.
It was actually on the Goldie near surfers some venue called the Troppodaro or something, quite a good size venue but still a good bar etc, i saw the oils there around that same time, ive seen probably over a hundred plus bands and i do have to say id rate them in the top 10 gigs I've seen.
BTW. Trump becomes president, Richmond wins a premiership, imagine if you had suggested five years ago these two things would happen, people would just laugh.
I mean even early this year who would have believed Richmond would even play in the grand final.
@Blowin,
I got two tix for Midnight Oil at the Domain for $100/each if you're keen. I bought tix to the Wollongong and the Domain shows in an excited frenzy, only to win two more for the Selinas gig a few month back - which was white hot BTW.
Lemme know if you're keen for 'em.
Though I'd have to look at resale policy. I know they implemented some deal to stop scalpers and I vaguely recall no onselling. Gotta show ID at the gate.
What a timely topic, been listening to Place Without a Postcard in the car for the last couple of days..takes me back. Have to agree with Indo, great live, for me the best live band I've seen.
Also agree with the smaller venue sentiment, saw them at Boondal a couple of times, the Spit at that outdoor setup, but by far the best was at Bombay Rock.
Fuck , that's a great offer , Stu.
It'll be a hike for me and I'll have to check the dates etc but I'm very keen .
I'll get back shortly.
Cheers , mate.
Just went looking for the dates for the domain concert and the oils website stated DO NOT buy tickets from Viagogo or whatever it is as they may be expensive......and that's where I'd looked at buying tickets.
Checked the prices at the Coffs Harbour show on the Oils site and they were only $100 each !
Fuckers were going to charge me double.
I can justify that price and I may as well see them at Coffs cause it's a shitload closer than Sydney, so thanks anyway Stu. Appreciate it.
Let's see if I can make t through a few more songs before I get turfed out this time.
Got to admit , the rave reviews provided by you fellas added a bit of impetus to my decision to go. Stu gave it a good rap a while back too .
As long as I'm not watching a bunch of crones in a xanax fugue push their Zimmer frames slowly around the stage.
ID, Tumbleweed ... haven't heard that name in a while, Seen em at the North Gong back in the day, good stuff. Watched the oils with Hoodoo Gurus, one for the homeless concert in Sydney a fair while a go, good gig, but as you say you don't get the vibe you get in the pub style venues.
Was fortunate to do a bunch of shows with Tumbleweed in the mid-late 90's.. really nice bunch of fellas. One of the best shows I saw them play was at the Tivoli with You am I, and Raisin Toast - around '95 or '96 - just after Galactaphonic was released and they were all over the radio (that album wasn't anywhere near as good as their self-titled album debut, I reckon).
Tumbleweed are playing regularly again these days touring next month actually small pubs but i think most gigs are already sold out.
North Gong i was a regular there for a while in the late 90's, always had good local bands like Thumblock and Thumper etc and a real good crew and beautiful little dirty grungy pub.
@Blowin Id suspect the oils are still very much active on stage, it was a while back but when i saw them i was blown away by just how tight they were and how good and unique there sound was, you can really appreciate how good musicians they are live.
Only large gigs I'm interested in going to these days are some of the smaller festivals might have to go to this one https://www.adayonthegreen.com.au/catalogue/attr/merchant_id/1353/produc...
BTW. those resell sites like "ticket tek resale" are just criminal i can't believe its legal, its basically legal scalping.
I like the idea of a ticket with the buyers name and needing to show ID at the door.
Early 90's for me at the North Gong, seen Tumbleweed a bunch especially after theatre of gnomes album. It was an awesome pub for live bands.
There aren't too many bands from my youth that interest me in seeing them now, especially if they've reformed to play at shit venues with inflated prices. I'd rather just leave the memories untarnished. Oils are probably one exception as beyond the hype and popularity they were all quality musicians. Rob Hirst is still probably my fav Aussie drummer.
they played free near the beach at cronulla one perfect afternoon. Garret came on stage in a pair of sluggos and a twin fin and wanted to know 'wheres the beach'
think i went to the original domain concert free, the only other bald person in the crowd was the hot dog vendor and he copped heaps,but he had the same attitude as Garret, and just as entertaining
was the cronulla gig also the one that the saints/chris baley played? wish i'd been there.
i always missed those big opera house concerts in the 70s. i wish i'd seen thin lizzy at the opera house. the parents dragged my away to the bush for summer. what idiots head inland in summer? we once went on a summer holiday to lightning ridge...actually, that was a lot of fun.
better to keep the family as far away as possible, not sure about the lineup but the saints and birdman were in the wings, did see the thin lizzy gig at the opening to the newcastle sports stadium free
That's how it feels in Sydney, Blowin. Seems more crowded by the week.
Except for the last two weeks, school holidays, and everyone streams out of Sydney in that time, and the commutes and transport are glorious, for a very short while.
But it's back to the grind again. Killing the goose that lays the golden egg.
Why isn't population allowed to be debated? The right are always on about political correctness (gone mad!) but the one thing that gets short shrift from both major parties is to discuss just how many people can you fit in here, without turning the country into a third world backwater.
Seems more crowded ?
Sydney is literally 10000 people busier every single week on average.
10000 people !
That's the population of Coffs Harbour every 7 weeks .
Nothing to see here ...
ya really throw the shit out there, not good with facts, matter of fact, shit house. when ya grow up & have a good look around for yourself, things, & the breeze, may change.... but for you & the bakers dozen........ ???? ...............na perhaps not.
the hodads used to describe to me the medical method used to clear up the jack, that shit was an eye opener
Totally above board.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/oct/13/peter-costello-ca...
He's only thinking of the interests of the nation!
Comment from beneath the article...
"Pity you didn't nationalise the mining boom and our gold stocks Peter, instead of buying two elections with it."
Comment from beneath the article...
"Pity you didn't nationalise the mining boom and our gold stocks Peter, instead of buying two elections with it."
Thats gold
Nothing whatsoever to do with a million odd international students working in Australia . Or the other visa categories.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/oct/19/entry-level-jobs-vanish...
Pilger is a man who loves a good polemic but all the same, when it comes to (U.S.) foreign policy, the ABC certainly doesn't mind toeing the line these days.
https://independentaustralia.net/business/business-display/clinton-assan...
And this - https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/nov/02/china-may-bankroll-adan...
Aussie taxpayers borrow money from overseas , pay interest on a loan that we'll never overcome so that a couple of Indians with a proven history of environmental destruction can build a white elephant that may ruin the barrier reef and pay no tax or royalties to Australia.
And it'll be built with Chinese labour .
Sounds awesome !!!!!!
That'll teach me to check the news whilst chilling out at the end of a crazy day of waves and blue sky.
Harshed my buzz, man.
Found Glass Love the movie by Andrew Kidman at an Op shop for $2. Never seen it , it should cheer me up.
Litmus was epic.
Lost In The Ether, another fine Kidman work. Like Glass Love it'll get you thinking about what's beneath your feet.
Now I want to go surfing.
Well done , Mr Kidman. You've made the world a better place through your efforts.
Cheers to all who starred in it too. Great surfing.
I've been lucky enough to share a line up and a chat with most of you.
Stay stoked.
Just to blow my own fcuking trumpet, I shot the opening scenes of Lost in the Ether......it was a bit hectic because my wife was two weeks overdue for the birth of our son and I had this shitty little old mobile with shit reception.....think i missed Andrews best wave checking to see if she was in labour...
As it turned out he came the next day....what a champion lad.
Toot! Toot! Good timing from the young fella. And it's something to remind him of too, when he's old enough to care, or not.
Of those films people say Glass Love was the better, but I really dug Lost.
Maybe I was in a good place when I watched it. Or maybe I just happened to be thinking the same thoughts. Whatever, that's the one that sung to me.
If Lost in the ether is anything like Glass Love then it's close to the polar opposite of Munga's Militia .....which I also loved.
I'll keep my eyes peeled for it.
PS Stu - You were right , A few hours later and it's the varying equipment that my mind keeps drifting towards.
The highlight of an interesting flick. It'll be on rotation .
Trump - hate overreach #136578
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/02/new-york-attack-suspect-...
Don't let your hatred for Trump be confined to reality . If you squint your mind you can blame him / accuse him of just about anything
Rationality need not apply.
Not understanding the point of this one Blowin. It's common to hear requests for media/authorities to not prejudice a trial by creating a media circus, what's uncommon is hearing a person with such power say something so unchecked that a suspect should get the death penalty.
And talking about rationality, surely Trump's declaration is pure unfiltered emotion.
Reckon you've got it totally arse about.
So a fella drives a car through dozens of people in broad daylight in front of hundreds of witnesses , then brags about what a great job he's done and people think that a jury could be influenced as to the possibility of whether he's guilty or not ?
Pretty sure he's guilty and everyone is aware of this regardless of what Trump says.
And as a seperate issue It's a blatantly political crime. No crime in issuing a political response. Accusational Talk of Trump politicising the " tragedy " are farcical.
Guilty or not isn't the problem here, impartial carriage of justice is.
And again, there's no issue with politicians commenting upon it - at least I have no problems with it - simply they should rise above mob response.
Do you think the guy is guilty ?
Was your opinion influenced by Trump's tweet ?
Mob rule is one thing , general acknowledgement of a glaring reality by an individual is another.
The death sentence threat maybe appears gnarlier to us because we don't entertain it under any circumstances, unlike our quick - to - cook Seppo cousins with their electric chair.
Nothing wrong with a politician displaying emotion. All the great political moments in history were driven by emotional investment in a belief.
It's the opinions put forward without any genuine personal commitment that I loathe.
I'm looking at you Malcom.
You seem to be missing the point...
It's not about right or wrong but a fair and impartial case, severity of justice etc. And if it's OK for a statesman to give rousing partisan commentary on this case does that make it OK for him to do it for all cases? Where's the line..? Understand that some cases are much more ambiguous but if the precedent gets set here, then where does it end?
I note the soldier that was tortured by the Taliban for five years after walking off his base was called a traitor by Donald Trump. The soldier recently got charged for desertion and he doesn't think he got a fair trial cos Trump made political mileage out of his case.
Think about that a moment, he was serving his country and under enormous duress serving in Afghanistan. A moment of of stupidity and he walks off his base...tortured in a cage for five years, a lifetime of PTSD to follow, and then to appear like a strong man the president of the country he was serving calls him a traitor as if he was consorting with the enemy.
Last thing: you picked this out as if Trump is solely being picked on. Rubbish. I can think of any number of instances where pollies or shock jocks, in this country as well, have been reprimanded for exactly the same thing.
It was a declared military attack on sovereign US soil . The instance stands alone and should be judged on its own merits. No one voiced dissent when George W Bush said that those responsible for 9/11 would pay with their lives.
My point is the hysteria around Trumps opinion. Zero actual chance that the judicial response will be anything but guilty. Therefore Trumps opinion has zero effect. I see your point that opinions may sway legal outcomes if put to trial by jury , but in this case the point is flagrantly mute.
As for the soldier - isn't death the ultimate punishment for desertion ?
If that's the case , then a tongue lashing from the commander in chief is a pretty light sentence.
I'd continue but I've got to go and poison myself applying fish oil to the bottom of my car . I could pick up later but it's a given that I'll be huffed out of any kind of comprehension. Not that I think you'd appreciably notice on this topic.
Don't agree with much of that but got too much work to do. Might reconvene at 17:00 hours near the mess hall.
Fish oil huffing : Its debatable whether the psychotropic effects are a positive , but the desire to spew is undeniable.
Three things immediately struck me about Trump's latest pronouncements.
First, they were designed to get all the negative press about links to him and Russia off the front pages, second they contrast greatly from those when a white nationalist committed a terrorist attack by driving a car into a group of protestors and thirdly they were directed to his supporter base out on the bayou.
Both attacks were terrorism, both were horrible in the extreme yet politically one seems less serious than the other. Odd that.
What's what might have left the building.
So here's the new location for the events and personalities that you think may elicit an interest from others.
Or just anything that makes you raise an eyebrow.