Turnbull rolls over "again" to the ultra right
It's the Westminster System Dave, you vote for a party, the party elects its leader.
Abbott's $300,000 pension is half of what the previous PM Rudd is entitled to barley plus there is the lifetime travel and an office provided.
Abbott got stiffed by four days as if he hit the two year mark as PM he would have got the full package.
http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/desposed-australian-prime-minister-kevin-...
YS, the number getting thrown around last night was Abbott's term was 2yrs, 7 days. Not sure how this number has been figured out...most likely by his closest allies to help him gain that PM pension perhaps...more bullshit from the biggest bullshit artists in the country.
Nah it goes by when the PM is sworn in by the governer-general tripper. I remember just after the election Abbott seemed to take his time forming government and that seems to have bitten him on the bum in this case?
Makes sense, cooking the books again with some creative accounting.
stunet wrote:It's the Westminster System Dave, you vote for a party, the party elects its leader.
i know stu-i dont think it is the most effective system
i am just currently disappointed with what all sides of politics are showing us
just having a whinge thats all
obviously a lot of energy has gone into the leadership change- that energy should be going to running the country in my opinion
as u know, efficiency is my mantra, and this is not how the australian government has been operating.
Has abbsy bowed out yet?
Is he eligible for the $300k per year pension .
Barley, Abbott has got 20 minutes as PM to go...Turnbull will be sworn in at 9am est.
I mean will he exit all together tripper..surely if he means what he says when he said we are not the labor party means he's out of politics.
Well, we all know what Abbott was good at and also what he was not good at. Let's hope there is less vitriolic comment and get on with a bit good government and leadership. At this stage I would suggest Turnbull will call an election early and the Libs will be lead again for another term, at least.
What a joke as much as I'm not a fan of Abbott i hate the idea of any party swapping leaders when they are in power biggest mistake labor made now liberals have done the same.
Wont change a thing they are both complete goose's…i don't vote liberal (i don't earn enough to benefit doing so) but if i did, id vote labor in just to send a message of protest.
We might not be America where they vote for presidents but we might as well be with how they sell it all to us and like it or not Australia voted Tony in and only Australia should be the ones to make a call on who our next PM should be which won't be Tony or Turnbull.
I agree with ya indo..both of the major parties are egocentric aholez..maybe thats why it has gone so long on this forum?
Here's a idea for Australian politics .... policies fully developed and explained to the electorate why they are needed and why there needs to be winners and losers .... for the good of the country.
Just look across the ditch in NZ. John Key, conservative leader introducing sensible policies and not scared to argue the case for change.
That's the past and the future for Australian politics .... policies not personality ... policies not 3 word slogans.
Floggy you couldnt organise a root in a brothel..55pages and youve worked out fuck all..you expect the politicians and the senate to do the same?
"Not scared to argue the case for change."
I read George Megolgenis' book recently and it becomes clear that the most effective leaders were those that could convey a clear message, even if it ran contrary to their constituency. Think Gough reducing tariffs, Bob leading deregulation, even Howard arguing for the gun buy back.
The most powerful message words spoken last night were by Malcolm, "We need to respect the intelligence of the Australian people."
Been a while since we've heard a politician speak in those terms.
I think this result is a message of rejection from the the Liberal Party to Rupert Murdoch and his political judgement. They tried it Murdoch's way and it was a disaster. Now it's time for Turnbull to show us what he's got?
The thing I like most about Turnbull is he can't be bought. He's already loaded. Giving his kids $60,000 scholarships won't fly.
I think he is smart enough to not be a puppet of Murdoch but I get the feeling that Newscorp will be instructed to go after Malcolm so he better closely watch where he steps and watch his back too.
"A genuine leader is not a searcher for consensus but a molder of consensus." - Martin Luther King.
If only the Australian elected leaders can grasp this ...
Oh, and bye bye Hockey ...
barley wrote:Floggy you couldnt organise a root in a brothel..55pages and youve worked out fuck all..you expect the politicians and the senate to do the same?
hey barley, must be hard to realise your leader wasn't the messiah but rather a complete fuckwit. Hang in there barley and get in the sea!
The good ship Abbott hit the Perfect Storm when confronted by Hurricane Turnbull and has quickly sunk.
The most powerful message words spoken last night were by Malcolm, "We need to respect the intelligence of the Australian people."- stu, i agree with this, however, when his wife was appointed administrator of tweed shire council, she did exactly the opposite.
she intimidated all and sundry, made decisions without consultation and was eventually sent packing after a fiery meeting at kingscliff hall where i got a standing ovation for pulling her up and showing deftly highlighting the inconsistencies of her actions compared to what her charter was.
i hope her husband is not the same and i hope lucy has changed, because the illuminati led jews will be running australia openly. please think deeply on this before posting. sept 28 blood moon eclipse reveals all.
interesting to note, on fb, just got a clip from karl from a morning show, channel 9 i think, who talks about a change of pm by a party being a disgrace and making the australian voting public irrelevant-already over 43, 000 likes.
Sorry I went missing... Just been on a 12 hour bender..... Hadn't touched the demon brew for 12 years, but last night, I went to the pub, smashed the Jack, danced on the tables, lit cigars at the front bar, and ended up in the back alley copping a blowy from a just as happy greeny named"sky flowerbud"..... Nice girl.....
I think this result is a message of rejection from the the Liberal Party to Rupert Murdoch and his political judgement. They tried it Murdoch's way and it was a disaster. Now it's time for Turnbull to show us what he's got?
so true yorksurfer, but not just a disaster, a fucken catastrophe, it was belatedly rejected by liberals because the public rejected it over and over, despite the media manipulation the public didn't fall for it, thankfully, and have said enough is enough. I'd love to hear what abbotts miserable faithfuls are saying behind closed doors today. didn't even last as long as rudd or gillard despite all his taunts.
half term tony...fuchen gold
"We need to respect the intelligence of the Australian people."
so good to hear the things turnball has said along these lines, hopefully a dramatic change in the way things are done. abbotts problem was not realising that despite his good education, some low end aussies might be just ss smart as him. turnball is still big bisiness but there is a little ray of hope in Oz politics today, the first time in a bloody long time!
though I am disappointed he's keeping their present climate change policy, but encouragingly he's said direct action has the means to be cranked up. either way al least we won't be shamed every time our PM opens his mouth overseas
I just listened to a Jones/bolt pod cast and same feelings Dave the audience were spitting chips at the treachery
silicun wrote:I just listened to a Jones/bolt pod cast and same feelings Dave the audience were spitting chips at the treachery
No doubt they were, but after 30 consecutive Newspoll losses what were the rest to do? Sure it's noble to go down with the ship but it's not very clever.
golf claps to peter dutton for being the straw that broke the tory camel... Leigh Sales evisceration on 7:30 also helped the death rattle along a bit...
I am not celebrating Turnbull's victory but I am celebrating Abbott's defeat..
For two years - this trainwreck with ears has been embarrassing us on the world stage.
As for Turnbull, if it walks like a tory, looks like a tory and quacks like a tory - chances are it's still a tory
though admittedly there are some differences
Turnbull has an intellect and a handful of principles and an overall right-centrist perspective on things...|
but ultimately - the LNP is still a clusterfuck of toxic ideology no matter which marionette is under the spotlight...
they call him the seducer of the centre left... that he is... so charge up your bullshit detectors we're in for a bumpy ride
might almost be time for Shorten and crew to attempt approximating some sense of relevance too
they need to remember they are players, not placeholders...
turnbull et al are about to get a tasty spike in the polls...
shorten will remain taciturn for a while - and that makes sense - but he needs to actually participate at some stage... and by participate i mean offer up a compelling argument that he is somehow not just a back room card shuffler....
#whereistony
Hahaha, Tony. Delaying the handover as long as possible.
Very good to see him and Joe go.
Sad that that slimey Pyney prick is hanging around.
i can't eat at the Star of Siam anymore on account of scoring a Pyne hat trick - - - - - three times in a row i'm there for lunch and i look over to see that obsequious little knob womble snorting into a bowl of noodles
"The thing I like most about Turnbull is he can't be bought. He's already loaded. Giving his kids $60,000 scholarships won't fly."
Hmmm.
Fair call velocityjonno I don't really know that much about Turnbull's alumni background? I'm just a simple pleb without much knowledge of such things?
I just get the impression that Malcolm's tactic for screwing us will be a more gentle approach with a 'Liberal' amount of lubricant applied as opposed to Abbott's thrust it in dry 'Hard Right' style. No wonder the Australian public squealed?
Abbott just was not properly trained in how to fuck the people over like a merchant banker is?
Imagine the pillow talk.
Hubby and wifey 's "blue" blood lines go way back...there's a reason why Malcom's middle name is Bligh.
YS, as an old boss of mine used to call it, The Right Wing Dry Anal Hate Fuck, no spit.
I watched the signing in as PM of Mr T...it was Lucy's face that was of concern, she was standing on the outside steps for the press after the deal was done with a glint in her eye that shone of power, not gratitude.
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Yeah, well....... I'll give Turnbull a go..... I'm a fair man..... With 40 something libs not on his side, he'll have to be careful..
He can't be a turn bull in a china shop... get it? Turn - bull -....china - free trade... Ahh fuck off...... :p
Sheepdog wrote:Yeah, well....... I'll give Turnbull a go..... I'm a fair man..... With 40 something libs not on his side, he'll have to be careful..
He can't be a turn bull in a china shop... get it? Turn - bull -....china - free trade... Ahh fuck off...... :p
ha ha….im sure we will have a new thread to bag Turnball out by this time next month…and I'm putting my money on you to be the one who starts it :P
Turnbull has given the Nationals control of water in the deal to stitch up a deal with the country bumpkins.
Standby .... there goes the Murray - Darling River Basin plan that the Nationals want tossed!
Too late Indo, I'm into him already.
Nationals rock..go barnaby..another reason floyds a cocksucker!
Meet the new boss ... same as the old boss.
Sheepdog wrote:Sorry I went missing... Just been on a 12 hour bender..... Hadn't touched the demon brew for 12 years, but last night, I went to the pub, smashed the Jack, danced on the tables, lit cigars at the front bar, and ended up in the back alley copping a blowy from a just as happy greeny named"sky flowerbud"..... Nice girl.....
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do u know her welly? i would have loved to see the dawg dancing on the tables- he really gets that cossack step a happening!!!!! whats that about the back alley- not going there---- lol-yes i am a few kangas short in the top paddock.
barley wrote:Nationals rock..go barnaby..another reason floyds a cocksucker!
ouch barley, that really hurt.
Nationals rock do they?
You mean the party that is meant to represent farmers and farming communities but bend over at every opportunity the mining, fracking and CSG industries want to ream them and the farmers doing what they do best on prime agricultural land?
Ask yourself this barley, where do former leaders of the National Party go when they retire from politics?
Answer: The mining industry.
Former National party leaders, John Anderson and Mark Vaile ...... John Anderson is chairman of Eastern Star Gas, the company behind the Narrabri Gas project while Mark Vaile was a director and now chairman of Whitehaven coal, the company behind one of the controversial mines at Maules Creek.
I recall how famously Marl Vaile got up at a meeting of farmers in a small country town and said "my name is Mark Vaile and I'm your local country party member" to which the gathered crowd all yelled "yes we remember" .... that might be over your head barley.
Look at that cold bitch in the back ground Julia Bishop. She didn't put her hand up this time because she knows liberals will not win the next election. But after Turnbull loses the election she will step up into leader of the opposition and win the following no problem. She is a war munga and have no guilt to send our boys to war in every far flung shit hole in the world. God help males in this country.
Evosurfer...women go to war to also. One poll taken yesterday indicated 70percent approval for Turnbull whilst Shorty 24percent. Taking bets on the next election and you can't take out your cash whilst the games on.
I never ever gamble imo its a disease like drugs and grog but mark my word that bitch is
on the way so keep your cash. I strongly disapprove of women on the front line just look
at domestic violence they don't seem to be doing to well on that front. Although a gun
does make everyone even.
Turnbull will not last after the election.
I never ever gamble imo its a disease like drugs and grog but mark my word that bitch is
on the way so keep your cash. I strongly disapprove of women on the front line just look
at domestic violence they don't seem to be doing to well on that front. Although a gun
does make everyone even.
Turnbull will not last after the election.
feel sorry for you Floyd..hopefully you can get some help
No worries YS, sometimes it is better to take the simple approach in life. The more I read into it (as I must be aware), the more I just want to go & shape and surf a board. It would be nice to have a choice that was different to that of between a certain investment bank and Fabian Socialists. If you look at the real policy that gets passed (bar: IR) it's marching down the same path no matter who passes it. But here we are.
In Malcolm's defence, when I was working remote Tassie I wrote to him as environment minister regarding the level of deforestation (& all the politics surrounding this) and was heartened by his personal reply. This shows an integrity of character and a devotion to service. Peter Garrett similarly replied when I wrote to him shortly after Fukushima blew up - although I'm more conservative the only times I have written to my ministers have been on environmental issues. Much respect to both of them.
some interesting points here about abbotts speach and how abbott blamed everyone but himself for losing the leadership. strange man, totally incapable of self reflection,
there was another article in the guardian I think pointing out how he was given a six month warning with the challenge before, a warning about peta credlin, a warning about captains calls etc. and he took none of it on board. with the six month warning you'd think he'd tone things down, or Rupert or somebody would advise him to back off a bit. it seems he just got worse than ever in that last six months
http://m.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/liberal-leader...
I almost felt sorry for the cunt when I saw some of those pictures of a rejected man, but that psssed quick when I realised what a self serving prick he was, this article describes his problem, total inability to see and appreciate other peoples views and positions in life. how did this man become PM?
http://m.huffpost.com/au/entry/8138542?ncid=edlinkauhpmg00000001
No-one got anything to say about the loss of the car industry under a government and high viz Tony that promised to create 1,000,000 jobs?
Slumber away ........