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It is good for no one but makes it look like they is draining the swap (to make room for some different cellar dwellers.
blackers wrote:It is good for no one but makes it look like they is draining the swap (to make room for some different cellar dwellers.
It doesn't look like they're "draining the swamp" to any rational person assessing the situation. Ending the regulation of financial institutions to the detriment of the overwhelming majority of Americans because you hold a grudge looks like the actions of a raging sociopath.
thermalben wrote:EroticJeff and Dazza have left the building.
Great post Ben, just keep an eye out for the reincarnation.
SgtShultz,.... remember what he used to say.the same as Jeffy and Dazza
Jelly get the boot as well?
Was just thinking I haven’t seen a ;-) for a while.
Hiccups wrote:blackers wrote:It is good for no one but makes it look like they is draining the swap (to make room for some different cellar dwellers.
It doesn't look like they're "draining the swamp" to any rational person assessing the situation. Ending the regulation of financial institutions to the detriment of the overwhelming majority of Americans because you hold a grudge looks like the actions of a raging sociopath.
I don't disagree but they are playing to a particular audience.
blackers wrote:Hiccups wrote:blackers wrote:It is good for no one but makes it look like they is draining the swap (to make room for some different cellar dwellers.
It doesn't look like they're "draining the swamp" to any rational person assessing the situation. Ending the regulation of financial institutions to the detriment of the overwhelming majority of Americans because you hold a grudge looks like the actions of a raging sociopath.
I don't disagree but they are playing to a particular audience.
Yeah, sorry, blackers. I should have made it clear I knew where you were coming from, and not that I was suggesting that you're not a rational person.
Anyone wanna have a stab at why no reporters at the oval office press conference where Elon was using his young son as a prop to make himself look like somewhat of a mammal, challenged him when he was banging on about "unelected bureaucrats", when he himself is one? Could it be that they weren't letting in bipartisan reporters, or that any reporters in attendance that wanted to ask anything but soft-ball questions, questions that Elon struggled to coherently answer btw, knew they'd have their future access revoked if they pressed him on the issue?
Maybe the reporters all fear the wrath of Elon/Trump if they print a bad word about them, now that's it's become a full blown dictatorship and all @hiccups.
I hope what Elon is doing catches on in Australia and every bit of spending is looked at and cut where needed, every level, federal, state, council, there is just so much fat that could be cut.
Things need to be stripped back and departments and jobs just deleted, time to start a fresh and go back to basics.
Look at Victoria
"As of December 2024, Victoria's interest payments are estimated to be $18 million per day. This is due to the state's rising debt, which is growing by $59.6 million per day. "
It's insanity.
Imagine what that 18 million per day could be spent on.
southernraw wrote:Maybe the reporters all fear the wrath of Elon/Trump if they print a bad word about them, now that's it's become a full blown dictatorship and all @hiccups.
Trump administration has allowed new independent journalists and influencers into the Whitehouse, he's hardly a dictator.
Maybe all the legacy/fake news reporters that have done their best to de-rail Trump are too scared, and so they should be.
burleigh wrote:southernraw wrote:Maybe the reporters all fear the wrath of Elon/Trump if they print a bad word about them, now that's it's become a full blown dictatorship and all @hiccups.
Trump administration has allowed new independent journalists and influencers into the Whitehouse, he's hardly a dictator.
Maybe all the legacy/fake news reporters that have done their best to de-rail Trump are too scared, and so they should be.
Burlz, i'd love to debate with you, but to be honest, i don't think even you believe that bullshit.
Just like @basesix pointed out, you rode The Voice referendum into the ground on here and then last minute, proclaimed you voted yes.
So i'll take all your Trump support and MAGA chanting with a grain of salt ;-)
indo-dreaming wrote:I hope what Elon is doing catches on in Australia and every bit of spending is looked at and cut where needed, every level, federal, state, council, there is just so much fat that could be cut.
Things need to be stripped back and departments and jobs just deleted, time to start a fresh and go back to basics.
Look at Victoria
"As of December 2024, Victoria's interest payments are estimated to be $18 million per day. This is due to the state's rising debt, which is growing by $59.6 million per day. "
It's insanity.
Imagine what that 18 million per day could be spent on.
The current debt to Gross State Product for Victoria is approx 24%, and is predicted to rise to 25% in 2027/28.
Under Sir Henry Bolte Victoria's Debt to GSP peaked at 58%.
indo-dreaming wrote:I hope what Elon is doing catches on in Australia and every bit of spending is looked at and cut where needed, every level, federal, state, council, there is just so much fat that could be cut.
Things need to be stripped back and departments and jobs just deleted, time to start a fresh and go back to basics.
Look at Victoria
"As of December 2024, Victoria's interest payments are estimated to be $18 million per day. This is due to the state's rising debt, which is growing by $59.6 million per day. "
It's insanity.
Imagine what that 18 million per day could be spent on.
Reckon your favourite party of grifters is up to the challenge? Keep swiping through the slides.
indo-dreaming wrote:I hope what Elon is doing catches on in Australia and every bit of spending is looked at and cut where needed, every level, federal, state, council, there is just so much fat that could be cut.
Things need to be stripped back and departments and jobs just deleted, time to start a fresh and go back to basics.
Look at Victoria
"As of December 2024, Victoria's interest payments are estimated to be $18 million per day. This is due to the state's rising debt, which is growing by $59.6 million per day. "
It's insanity.
Imagine what that 18 million per day could be spent on.
Yes, its ok to pay taxes IF they are being spent efficiently.
A few examples, when midnight oiler was a MP.he had to visit a coastal town(on the highway).When he got out of the airport he hopped the first cab and said." you are my driver for the day.Put the meter on and leave it running"....First destination was the closest beach to the destination town because" he wanted to feel the sand between his toes".frigged around there for a few hours until it was time to do the official stuff and return to the airport.SIX hours of TAXPAYER money instead of one.(time of a direct trip from airport to venue, then get a new cab back)
In the NSW public service, some people have a direct line.Their work mates use it to ring friends OS.
Departments in the NSW public service have an annual $ allocation for stationery, they use it fully as they are scared to lose it.Storerooms full of stuff that doesnt get used and gets thrown out if it overcrowds or becomes out of date.
What ive mentioned is a tiny tip of the iceberg.
quadzilla wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:I hope what Elon is doing catches on in Australia and every bit of spending is looked at and cut where needed, every level, federal, state, council, there is just so much fat that could be cut.
Things need to be stripped back and departments and jobs just deleted, time to start a fresh and go back to basics.
Look at Victoria
"As of December 2024, Victoria's interest payments are estimated to be $18 million per day. This is due to the state's rising debt, which is growing by $59.6 million per day. "
It's insanity.
Imagine what that 18 million per day could be spent on.
Yes, its ok to pay taxes IF they are being spent efficiently.
A few examples, when midnight oiler was a MP.he had to visit a coastal town(on the highway).When he got out of the airport he hopped the first cab and said." you are my driver for the day.Put the meter on and leave it running"....First destination was the closest beach to the destination town because" he wanted to feel the sand between his toes".frigged around there for a few hours until it was time to do the official stuff and return to the airport.SIX hours of TAXPAYER money instead of one.(time of a direct trip from airport to venue, then get a new cab back)
In the NSW public service, some people have a direct line.Their work mates use it to ring friends OS.
Departments in the NSW public service have an annual $ allocation for stationery, they use it fully as they are scared to lose it.Storerooms full of stuff that doesnt get used and gets thrown out if it overcrowds or becomes out of date.
What ive mentioned is a tiny tip of the iceberg.
Cool story, got a source?
A Salty Dog wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:I hope what Elon is doing catches on in Australia and every bit of spending is looked at and cut where needed, every level, federal, state, council, there is just so much fat that could be cut.
Things need to be stripped back and departments and jobs just deleted, time to start a fresh and go back to basics.
Look at Victoria
"As of December 2024, Victoria's interest payments are estimated to be $18 million per day. This is due to the state's rising debt, which is growing by $59.6 million per day. "
It's insanity.
Imagine what that 18 million per day could be spent on.
The current debt to Gross State Product for Victoria is approx 24%, and is predicted to rise to 25% in 2027/28.
Under Sir Henry Bolte Victoria's Debt to GSP peaked at 58%.
Funny you had to go back over 50 years to find a government that has put Victoria in so much debt, yes it's that bad.
But really Liberal & Labor who cares both are just as bad as each other, thing's need a shake up and im just as frustrated maybe more so really about my local council just so much wasted money and over bloated.
If a house hold budgeted and spent money the way councils and government do they would be finished.
BTW. having a quick read it actually seems under this Henry Bolte dude we actually got something in return for that debt.
"The Latrobe and Monash Universities, the West Gate Bridge, and Tullamarine airport."
And Vic premier from 55 to 72 Fuck that's an amazing run.
Anyway sorry im kinda going off topic whinging about Victoria in a USA thread.
^^ Dutton’s proposed taxpayer funded uncosted nuclear power plants anyone?
something for the covid 'conspiracists'
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1889896827513868734
LSD
curious acronym
intentional or not...
makes one think of the old school CIA acid tab 'conspiracy'
andy-mac wrote:quadzilla wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:I hope what Elon is doing catches on in Australia and every bit of spending is looked at and cut where needed, every level, federal, state, council, there is just so much fat that could be cut.
Things need to be stripped back and departments and jobs just deleted, time to start a fresh and go back to basics.
Look at Victoria
"As of December 2024, Victoria's interest payments are estimated to be $18 million per day. This is due to the state's rising debt, which is growing by $59.6 million per day. "
It's insanity.
Imagine what that 18 million per day could be spent on.
Yes, its ok to pay taxes IF they are being spent efficiently.
A few examples, when midnight oiler was a MP.he had to visit a coastal town(on the highway).When he got out of the airport he hopped the first cab and said." you are my driver for the day.Put the meter on and leave it running"....First destination was the closest beach to the destination town because" he wanted to feel the sand between his toes".frigged around there for a few hours until it was time to do the official stuff and return to the airport.SIX hours of TAXPAYER money instead of one.(time of a direct trip from airport to venue, then get a new cab back)
In the NSW public service, some people have a direct line.Their work mates use it to ring friends OS.
Departments in the NSW public service have an annual $ allocation for stationery, they use it fully as they are scared to lose it.Storerooms full of stuff that doesnt get used and gets thrown out if it overcrowds or becomes out of date.
What ive mentioned is a tiny tip of the iceberg.
Cool story, got a source?
Yes
sypkan wrote:something for the covid 'conspiracists'
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1889896827513868734
LSD
curious acronym
intentional or not...
makes one think of the old school CIA acid tab 'conspiracy'
Be interesting to see if anything comes up for the TNI . Looking at the list of who was on it , I had a bit of a chuckle when I saw Twitter was on there . https://www.bbc.com/beyondfakenews/trusted-news-initiative/about-us/
twitter version 1.0
and a large part of the motivation to buy it...
trust...
https://m.
&t=82s&pp=2AFSkAIB sypkan wrote:trust...
His closing statement was a beauty , another ex democrat voter that had had a gut full .
quadzilla wrote:andy-mac wrote:quadzilla wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:I hope what Elon is doing catches on in Australia and every bit of spending is looked at and cut where needed, every level, federal, state, council, there is just so much fat that could be cut.
Things need to be stripped back and departments and jobs just deleted, time to start a fresh and go back to basics.
Look at Victoria
"As of December 2024, Victoria's interest payments are estimated to be $18 million per day. This is due to the state's rising debt, which is growing by $59.6 million per day. "
It's insanity.
Imagine what that 18 million per day could be spent on.
Yes, its ok to pay taxes IF they are being spent efficiently.
A few examples, when midnight oiler was a MP.he had to visit a coastal town(on the highway).When he got out of the airport he hopped the first cab and said." you are my driver for the day.Put the meter on and leave it running"....First destination was the closest beach to the destination town because" he wanted to feel the sand between his toes".frigged around there for a few hours until it was time to do the official stuff and return to the airport.SIX hours of TAXPAYER money instead of one.(time of a direct trip from airport to venue, then get a new cab back)
In the NSW public service, some people have a direct line.Their work mates use it to ring friends OS.
Departments in the NSW public service have an annual $ allocation for stationery, they use it fully as they are scared to lose it.Storerooms full of stuff that doesnt get used and gets thrown out if it overcrowds or becomes out of date.
What ive mentioned is a tiny tip of the iceberg.
Cool story, got a source?
Yes
Please share...
@Indo.
"BTW. having a quick read it actually seems under this Henry Bolte dude we actually got something in return for that debt."
Tryin' to stay off postin' for a while but names get dropped and as some may have noticed, I'm a bit of a name dropper and story teller myself so...
I knew Henry!
Not exactly a rockstar namedrop but I did.
Henry used to stand in my Mum's kitchen, or did a few times, and say "Hello" to me.
I was a boy and he was a pretty famous man so it was kind of a big deal to me then.
We talked.
Lots of times.
We used to talk about cricket!
Old Henry @Indo, don't you worry, he could get what he wanted alright, he did alright. His mates too.
Henry had plenty of tricks up his sleeve back in those days.
They all did those old boys like Henry,
Henry was good mates with some of my...now ancestors.
A Henry story.
He killed a man once.
An innocent man.
His name was Ronald.
Ronald was a, some might say, bad man in many ways.
But what Henry killed him for... he didn't do.
Someone else did that, by accident. There was an incident.
A policeman died and Ronald got blamed.
And when they caught up with Ronald and put him on trial all these people that saw what happened, or were there at the time at least, stood up with their hand on an adulterous English King's latest version of the Bible, and swore that they saw Ronald do it, and they knew it because when the fatal shot was fired from the gun that Ronald was carrying at the time, some said aiming at the policeman at the time, fired...
They saw the smoke come out the end of the barrel.
It had to be him.
Now Ronald had a gun on him, no doubt, at that time, he'd stolen it not long before from an armoury at the prison he was, at that moment, escaping from.
Like I said, There was an incident.
And like I said, some said he was a bad man.
Henry said that.
The gun Ronald had, when the shot was fired that killed the policeman was a I forgot Carbine rifle
The thing was,
and you could prove it,
and it was proven, beyond what anyone reasonable would call reasonable doubt, in that court, in front of the same jury that had heard and been shown the...lie? untruth? weird psychology? of what those witnesses said they saw...
The I forgot Carbine rifle actually didn't blow any smoke when it fired.
The jury, who were probably convinced Ronald was a bad man anyway at the time, failed Ronald and themselves and their task and the whole system, ignored that truth and found mostly on the eyewitness evidence, Ronald did it. His gun.
Not the others being fired at Ronald at the time, (some the same model gun btw)
And Ronald got a death penalty, we used to kill men like Ronald back then, and he found himself back at the same prison he once tried to escape from, awaiting his end. There were appeals don't worry, but in the end Ronald's fate lay in just one man's hands.
The brilliant man, genius level brilliance, who had been tasked with the job of defending Ronald's life in that court, a man of great potential and from a family steeped in the law, was so devastated and disillusioned by what the system he had devoted his life to had done, after he continued defending Ronald with all his considerable skill, until the second Ronald died, and beyond, turned his back on it all and never defended a man in court again.
My ancestors knew him too.
I never met him.
I could show you where he used to live though.
And when Ronald was sitting there waiting it all became a big uproar, and the smart people could see that an innocent man was about to be sent to the gallows for something he didn't do and the system supposed to prevent that had failed and someone had to stop it.
And as I said there was really only one man with the power that could, easily.
A smart man, who knew it was wrong.
And although I actually knew him around that time he never told me that fact, we only ever talked cricket, he did tell some of my ancestors. They told me later.
That man was Henry.
But old mate Henry didn't care. Henry was about politics, and winning at that.
He was good at that.
And he sniffed a win.
For "Victorians"
But really him.
So he killed Ronald anyway.
True story.
southernraw wrote:burleigh wrote:southernraw wrote:Maybe the reporters all fear the wrath of Elon/Trump if they print a bad word about them, now that's it's become a full blown dictatorship and all @hiccups.
Trump administration has allowed new independent journalists and influencers into the Whitehouse, he's hardly a dictator.
Maybe all the legacy/fake news reporters that have done their best to de-rail Trump are too scared, and so they should be.
Burlz, i'd love to debate with you, but to be honest, i don't think even you believe that bullshit.
Just like @basesix pointed out, you rode The Voice referendum into the ground on here and then last minute, proclaimed you voted yes.
So i'll take all your Trump support and MAGA chanting with a grain of salt ;-)
If you’re going to say you’ve never changed your mind on something you’re full of it Southern.
At least I had the balls to admit it
adam12 wrote:@Indo.
"BTW. having a quick read it actually seems under this Henry Bolte dude we actually got something in return for that debt."Tryin' to stay off postin' for a while but names get dropped and as some may have noticed, I'm a bit of a name dropper and story teller myself so...
I knew Henry!
Not exactly a rockstar namedrop but I did.
Henry used to stand in my Mum's kitchen, or did a few times, and say "Hello" to me.
I was a boy and he was a pretty famous man so it was kind of a big deal to me then.
We talked.
Lots of times.
We used to talk about cricket!Old Henry @Indo, don't you worry, he could get what he wanted alright, he did alright. His mates too.
Henry had plenty of tricks up his sleeve back in those days.
They all did those old boys like Henry,
Henry was good mates with some of my...now ancestors.A Henry story.
He killed a man once.
An innocent man.
His name was Ronald.
Ronald was a, some might say, bad man in many ways.
But what Henry killed him for... he didn't do.Someone else did that, by accident. There was an incident.
A policeman died and Ronald got blamed.And when they caught up with Ronald and put him on trial all these people that saw what happened, or were there at the time at least, stood up with their hand on an adulterous English King's latest version of the Bible, and swore that they saw Ronald do it, and they knew it because when the fatal shot was fired from the gun that Ronald was carrying at the time, some said aiming at the policeman at the time, fired...
They saw the smoke come out the end of the barrel.It had to be him.
Now Ronald had a gun on him, no doubt, at that time, he'd stolen it not long before from an armoury at the prison he was, at that moment, escaping from.
Like I said, There was an incident.
And like I said, some said he was a bad man.
Henry said that.The gun Ronald had, when the shot was fired that killed the policeman was a I forgot Carbine rifle
The thing was,
and you could prove it,
and it was proven, beyond what anyone reasonable would call reasonable doubt, in that court, in front of the same jury that had heard and been shown the...lie? untruth? weird psychology? of what those witnesses said they saw...The I forgot Carbine rifle actually didn't blow any smoke when it fired.
The jury, who were probably convinced Ronald was a bad man anyway at the time, failed Ronald and themselves and their task and the whole system, ignored that truth and found mostly on the eyewitness evidence, Ronald did it. His gun.
Not the others being fired at Ronald at the time, (some the same model gun btw)And Ronald got a death penalty, we used to kill men like Ronald back then, and he found himself back at the same prison he once tried to escape from, awaiting his end. There were appeals don't worry, but in the end Ronald's fate lay in just one man's hands.
The brilliant man, genius level brilliance, who had been tasked with the job of defending Ronald's life in that court, a man of great potential and from a family steeped in the law, was so devastated and disillusioned by what the system he had devoted his life to had done, after he continued defending Ronald with all his considerable skill, until the second Ronald died, and beyond, turned his back on it all and never defended a man in court again.
My ancestors knew him too.
I never met him.
I could show you where he used to live though.And when Ronald was sitting there waiting it all became a big uproar, and the smart people could see that an innocent man was about to be sent to the gallows for something he didn't do and the system supposed to prevent that had failed and someone had to stop it.
And as I said there was really only one man with the power that could, easily.
A smart man, who knew it was wrong.
And although I actually knew him around that time he never told me that fact, we only ever talked cricket, he did tell some of my ancestors. They told me later.
That man was Henry.But old mate Henry didn't care. Henry was about politics, and winning at that.
He was good at that.
And he sniffed a win.
For "Victorians"
But really him.
So he killed Ronald anyway.True story.
Interesting read Adam, one thing i will give you, is you put time and thought into your post and like sharing a story, i like that.
Id heard his name before, but never knew anything about him until a quick google and read this arvo.
burleigh wrote:southernraw wrote:burleigh wrote:southernraw wrote:Maybe the reporters all fear the wrath of Elon/Trump if they print a bad word about them, now that's it's become a full blown dictatorship and all @hiccups.
Trump administration has allowed new independent journalists and influencers into the Whitehouse, he's hardly a dictator.
Maybe all the legacy/fake news reporters that have done their best to de-rail Trump are too scared, and so they should be.
Burlz, i'd love to debate with you, but to be honest, i don't think even you believe that bullshit.
Just like @basesix pointed out, you rode The Voice referendum into the ground on here and then last minute, proclaimed you voted yes.
So i'll take all your Trump support and MAGA chanting with a grain of salt ;-)If you’re going to say you’ve never changed your mind on something you’re full of it Southern.
At least I had the balls to admit it
It was disappointing you flipped with the voice thing, but changing your mind shouldn't be seen as a negative thing, everyone should change their mind sometimes, dont be a Guy stuck in your ways.
The important thing is you be honest to yourself, and not just take on a view that is expected or you think you should have for some reason etc
burleigh wrote:southernraw wrote:burleigh wrote:southernraw wrote:Maybe the reporters all fear the wrath of Elon/Trump if they print a bad word about them, now that's it's become a full blown dictatorship and all @hiccups.
Trump administration has allowed new independent journalists and influencers into the Whitehouse, he's hardly a dictator.
Maybe all the legacy/fake news reporters that have done their best to de-rail Trump are too scared, and so they should be.
Burlz, i'd love to debate with you, but to be honest, i don't think even you believe that bullshit.
Just like @basesix pointed out, you rode The Voice referendum into the ground on here and then last minute, proclaimed you voted yes.
So i'll take all your Trump support and MAGA chanting with a grain of salt ;-)If you’re going to say you’ve never changed your mind on something you’re full of it Southern.
At least I had the balls to admit it
hahaha noooo no no Burleigh!!
Keep doing what you're doing.
It's my 5pm entertainment!! (amongst other parts of this thread).
indo-dreaming wrote:A Salty Dog wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:I hope what Elon is doing catches on in Australia and every bit of spending is looked at and cut where needed, every level, federal, state, council, there is just so much fat that could be cut.
Things need to be stripped back and departments and jobs just deleted, time to start a fresh and go back to basics.
Look at Victoria
"As of December 2024, Victoria's interest payments are estimated to be $18 million per day. This is due to the state's rising debt, which is growing by $59.6 million per day. "
It's insanity.
Imagine what that 18 million per day could be spent on.
The current debt to Gross State Product for Victoria is approx 24%, and is predicted to rise to 25% in 2027/28.
Under Sir Henry Bolte Victoria's Debt to GSP peaked at 58%.
Funny you had to go back over 50 years to find a government that has put Victoria in so much debt, yes it's that bad.
But really Liberal & Labor who cares both are just as bad as each other, thing's need a shake up and im just as frustrated maybe more so really about my local council just so much wasted money and over bloated.
If a house hold budgeted and spent money the way councils and government do they would be finished.
BTW. having a quick read it actually seems under this Henry Bolte dude we actually got something in return for that debt.
"The Latrobe and Monash Universities, the West Gate Bridge, and Tullamarine airport."
And Vic premier from 55 to 72 Fuck that's an amazing run.
Anyway sorry im kinda going off topic whinging about Victoria in a USA thread.
Well, I was there for much of it and remember it well.
What you got for your money then, you are getting for your money now. It’s called infrastructure and everyday life in a city, would be difficult without it.
And if cost overruns are a concern, I worked in the construction industry ( many major projects ) for over 30 years and I can’t recall a project coming in under budget. That’s the nature of engineering, you really don’t know what you’re going to get until you start.
Henry had things well stitched up after the ALP split, as the DLP supported him and his mates Arthur Rylah and John Rossiter, who is probably more famous for his daughter, Susan Rossiter Peacock Sangster Renouf.
And yes he had a man killed for political gain.
Wasn’t Bolte and Archbishop Mannix pretty close? and was Bolte pissed as a newt the night he had a headon but oddly the blood samples went missing??
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank