Trump and the risk of war

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blindboy started the topic in Monday, 16 Jan 2017 at 5:13pm

Part One.

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andy-mac Wednesday, 8 Jan 2025 at 1:31pm
Chelsea L wrote:

What a spectacular case of deflection by conspiracy theory whataboutism.

Speaking of whataboutism, how many kids killed today in Gaza with American munitions being ignored by the western world???
Some lives worth more than others ey....

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zenagain Wednesday, 8 Jan 2025 at 1:43pm

Totally. As above. No bias there.

He might want to take a look at his own website and fix the typos.

After all, he is a 'journalist'.

Edit: no, some lives are not worth more than others, but...

"To use an abhorrent crime (rapes) to push a anti Islam, anti immigrant agenda is fooked as he was pointing out."

"Anti Islam is as vile as anti semitism..."

Exactly Andy but that's not what the above fellow is about, he is clearly an anti-semite.

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andy-mac Wednesday, 8 Jan 2025 at 1:55pm
zenagain wrote:

Totally. As above. No bias there.

He might want to take a look at his own website and fix the typos.

After all, he is a 'journalist'.

Edit: no, some lives are not worth more than others, but...

"To use an abhorrent crime (rapes) to push a anti Islam, anti immigrant agenda is fooked as he was pointing out."

"Anti Islam is as vile as anti semitism..."

Exactly Andy but that's not what the above fellow is about, he is clearly an anti-semite.

OK fair point.
His video came up and I got sucked in, did not know his back ground, but the right wing fear mongering scares me. In 30's it was Jews, looks like history is starting to repeat except Muslims are going to be the victims.
This article might have been more appropriate.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jan/07/british-politics-e...

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indo-dreaming Wednesday, 8 Jan 2025 at 7:48pm
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Chelsea L wrote:

What a spectacular case of deflection by conspiracy theory whataboutism.

Speaking of whataboutism, how many kids killed today in Gaza with American munitions being ignored by the western world???
Some lives worth more than others ey....

Actually that is whataboutism,

You dont care about other conflicts or deaths around the world and neither does much of the media, i provided a great example (with links) the other day on Sudan that has seen a larger death toll in the same time frame and not long ago received their first shipment of aid to a main area, but nobody care's about that conflict or a real starvation happening.

Meanwhile the media is obsessed with Israel and Gaza, there is all kinds of articles on the topic everyday from media outlets.

But yeah if you want the narrative of kids being killed without the details of hamas being killed etc or news stories like the Israeli's murdered on a bus a few days ago in the West bank.

Then you might have to go to a media outlet like Al Jazeera but it should be noted that they are so full of shit that that the Palestine authority ( PLO ) in Judea/Samaria (West Bank) last week joined the list of Middle East countries in banning Al Jazeera (might only be short term though) basically the PLO accused the outlet of, misleading reports and inciting violence.

Pretty much the same reason it's banned in half the middle east (Saudi Arabia, Jordan, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Egypt, Israel)

The biggest news story of this week in Gaza though is the recent hostage deal that actually might happen because of pressure of Trump coming into power very soon.

34 hostages to be released including a baby who is now a toddler, although Hamas cant tell anyone which hostage's on the list are dead or alive.

Which is insane, even to start negotiating you normally would have proof of life, so you know what you are negotiating for.

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goofyfoot Wednesday, 8 Jan 2025 at 8:24pm
Chelsea L wrote:

What a spectacular case of deflection by conspiracy theory whataboutism.

How’ve you been facto?

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Chelsea L Thursday, 9 Jan 2025 at 11:00am

Hi goofyfoot, I'll wear that one, I regularly think I have all the facts!

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stunet Thursday, 9 Jan 2025 at 1:51pm
goofyfoot wrote:
Chelsea L wrote:

What a spectacular case of deflection by conspiracy theory whataboutism.

How’ve you been facto?

Top of the class, GF.

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blackers Thursday, 9 Jan 2025 at 2:10pm

Well there you go, didn’t see that coming.

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Supafreak Thursday, 9 Jan 2025 at 2:53pm

Hi facto , you’re looking good post op .

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zenagain Thursday, 9 Jan 2025 at 3:29pm

Dammit! I was hoping you'd be a real woman Chelsea.

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Chelsea L Thursday, 9 Jan 2025 at 3:37pm

Wut? Am I missing something? Isn't goofyfoot burning me for coming across as a know-it-all?

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Supafreak Thursday, 9 Jan 2025 at 4:14pm
Chelsea L wrote:

Wut? Am I missing something? Isn't goofyfoot burning me for coming across as a know-it-all?

I think you’re missing something after the op .

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 9 Jan 2025 at 7:54pm

Really that's insane if it is.

The name and profile pic is very his style, but if he is and is playing this charade with completely different views then he has done an amazing job.

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zenagain Thursday, 9 Jan 2025 at 8:09pm

Yeah, I'm pretty impressed too.

I was kinda hoping SR would get his wish.

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seeds Thursday, 9 Jan 2025 at 8:12pm

I thought it was Blowin, maybe.
Whoever it is definitely in a character mode.

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Supafreak Thursday, 9 Jan 2025 at 8:13pm
indo-dreaming wrote:

Really that's insane if it is.

The name and profile pic is very his style, but if he is and is playing this charade with completely different views then he has done an amazing job.

A trans- formation ? Only joking. I actually liked a lot of the stuff facto put up but he got carried away with you and blowin . Some of his finds were really interesting. He had some good topics . Overall I found him interesting but understand why some didn’t like him .

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Supafreak Thursday, 9 Jan 2025 at 8:25pm
zenagain wrote:

Yeah, I'm pretty impressed too.

I was kinda hoping SR would get his wish.

Pretty sure SR & facto are good mates . Yes it would be great if some women would join in discussions. I still reckon women don’t find these threads that interesting and have other interests or really busy . What do you notice about who’s chatting to who at BBQs ?

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zenagain Thursday, 9 Jan 2025 at 10:11pm

I'd honestly love to see more women here too but pretty much as above, it's just not that interesting for them here.

I do like how initially Chelsea was treated as an equal. Quite the antithesis of how Southern regards most of us.

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southernraw Thursday, 9 Jan 2025 at 11:45pm
zenagain wrote:

Yeah, I'm pretty impressed too.

I was kinda hoping SR would get his wish.

Seriously, give it a rest dickhead.

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southernraw Thursday, 9 Jan 2025 at 11:47pm
zenagain wrote:

I'd honestly love to see more women here too but pretty much as above, it's just not that interesting for them here.

I do like how initially Chelsea was treated as an equal. Quite the antithesis of how Southern regards most of us.

You really are a deadset cockspanker aren't you.

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zenagain Friday, 10 Jan 2025 at 12:48am

Why? Because I really honestly thought Chelsea was a switched on cool chick and I thought you'd be pleased. I was waiting for you to engage with her but turns out she's your mate.

So, I guess I am the fool.

I think you're pretty rude mate. I've never once called you a name, especially a homophobic one. I'm gonna leave you alone, you're too much of a hellman charger for me.

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zenagain Friday, 10 Jan 2025 at 1:32am

And Facto, used to think you were pretty cool. I admired your brain.

Past tense.

Strange bedfellows indeed.

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goofyfoot Friday, 10 Jan 2025 at 2:08am
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goofyfoot wrote:
Chelsea L wrote:

What a spectacular case of deflection by conspiracy theory whataboutism.

How’ve you been facto?

Top of the class, GF.

Gold star incoming.

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Chelsea L Friday, 10 Jan 2025 at 7:00am

I'm not a previous swellnet user called "facto". I'm just an ordinary woman in my thirties who left the Victorian public service and the state in late 2022, after the public mistakenly voted the Labor organised crime cartel back into power. Now, I'm proud to say I'm part of the team preparing for the Brisbane Olympics. I find these forum topics interesting because I studied politics and international relations at uni of Melbourne. My only crime is I'm not as pretty as my profile pic.

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southernraw Friday, 10 Jan 2025 at 7:47am
zenagain wrote:

Why? Because I really honestly thought Chelsea was a switched on cool chick and I thought you'd be pleased. I was waiting for you to engage with her but turns out she's your mate.

So, I guess I am the fool.

I think you're pretty rude mate. I've never once called you a name, especially a homophobic one. I'm gonna leave you alone, you're too much of a hellman charger for me.

Leave me out of your miserable online existence. Thanks.