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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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elmo Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 11:43am

Maybe oldflog, gaysmiley, awanker, could get a helping hand from Sexxojeff :)

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basesix Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 12:17pm

"boom, there you go, so, this is one of the rides alllll the family can enjoy.. "


(reckon you picked it @Supa, giggles sans 'lol')

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udo Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 12:22pm

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AlfredWallace Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 12:45pm
elmo wrote:

Maybe oldflog, gaysmiley, awanker, could get a helping hand from Sexxojeff :)

Elmo. You Muppet.

I doubt whether you or a few others had seen the word priapism prior to GuySmiley posting it.

If your simple brain can’t work out that it is/was all just a bit of fun, well you’re definitely not the life of the party, your personality comes across as stiff, very erect and prolonging.

We like learning, you may not, so playing around with any uncommon word is good for the brain, wouldn’t you say. Lighten up. AW

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indo-dreaming Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 1:22pm
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@info sounds like he’s got a savage attack of priapism at the prospect of even more Arab blood being spilled, thou you really have to hand it to him for graduating from youtoob’s international school of diplomacy and foreign affairs … although someone should tell him that Nixon’s “grab them by the balls and let their hearts and minds follow” carpet bombing of Cambodia, a country not at war with the US is universally seen as a complete clusterfuck failure which further destabilised a legitimate government which saw the emergence of Pol Pot and the subsequent genocidal murder of up to 2.0 million Cambodians …. Of course all this is complex and @info doesn’t do complex ..

Read my post again the message Trump is sending is to Iran going direct to the puppet master, Iranian's are Persians not Arabs, and all the steps dont involve civilian war causalities.

-Sanctions
-Military target strikes
-Nuclear facility strikes

And in extreme cases things like oil facilities

To be fair to the Iran government, thats one area that you must respect them, they dont use their civilians as human shields, although weapon manufacturing or storage facilties in may still be in built up areas.

Very simply you make the puppet master hurt, because the puppet master unlike the puppets, jihadist like Hamas or Palestine Islamic Jihad actually care when they hurt.

As for sources of information and your dissing of Youtube.

1. Social media= Generally not a good source of information, generally short and even qualified opinions can be misleading in a 30 second twitter clip or quote.

2.Print news articles= Very short condensed information a page worth is only minutes worth in other forms such as podcast or Youtube videos, its fine for basic updates but not for diving deeper

2. Books= Great for history etc, but not current events, they wont be published until some time after.

3. Radio or TV= Can have some good source's of information these are generally just the podcast and YouTube of old, problem is even if your getting info from ABC you are better going with an ABC podcast you will get a far more detailed in depth take, although things like ABC podcast are pretty limited in information and updates as dealk with so many other topics.

4. Podcast=One of the best source of detailed information, you can get the views from those in the top of their field or even involved in the conflict, pretty much as things unfold and you are generally getting it from people who have followed these events in detail for years or even lived these thing's for years.

Of course you need to not just listen or follow one but get a variety of takes.

5. Youtube: Pretty much the same as Podcast, and has the advantage of getting updates on footage too.

Basically people like you are old farts out of touch with the ever changing information world, thats why you dont get how Podcast helped Trump get over the line, lots of young people dont even watch much TV let alone read a paper.

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stunet Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 1:14pm

I'll also type this elsewhere so people don't miss it...

The forums have been a chore for the last few months but change is afoot. In a few weeks, a new year begins and with it a new start. It won't quite be zero tolerance but pretty close to it when it comes to things such as repetitive posting - got that Sexy Jeff? - and argument by Youtube - hear that Jelly Flater?

It'd be nice to get the place back to where it was when many people posted on a broad range of topics rather than the usual walruses bleating the same old shite.

It might piss a few people off...but fuck it. Those few people are causing it a slow death anyway.

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A Salty Dog Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 1:57pm
indo-dreaming wrote:
GuySmiley wrote:

@info sounds like he’s got a savage attack of priapism at the prospect of even more Arab blood being spilled, thou you really have to hand it to him for graduating from youtoob’s international school of diplomacy and foreign affairs … although someone should tell him that Nixon’s “grab them by the balls and let their hearts and minds follow” carpet bombing of Cambodia, a country not at war with the US is universally seen as a complete clusterfuck failure which further destabilised a legitimate government which saw the emergence of Pol Pot and the subsequent genocidal murder of up to 2.0 million Cambodians …. Of course all this is complex and @info doesn’t do complex ..

Read my post again the message Trump is sending is to Iran going direct to the puppet master, Iranian's are Persians not Arabs, and all the steps dont involve civilian war causalities.

-Sanctions
-Military target strikes
-Nuclear facility strikes

And in extreme cases things like oil facilities

To be fair to the Iran government, thats one area that you must respect them, they dont use their civilians as human shields, although weapon manufacturing or storage facilties in may still be in built up areas.

Very simply you make the puppet master hurt, because the puppet master unlike the puppets, jihadist like Hamas or Palestine Islamic Jihad actually care when they hurt.

As for sources of information and your dissing of Youtube.

1. Social media= Generally not a good source of information, generally short and even qualified opinions can be misleading in a 30 second twitter clip or quote.

2.Print news articles= Very short condensed information a page worth is only minutes worth in other forms such as podcast or Youtube videos, its fine for basic updates but not for diving deeper

2. Books= Great for history etc, but not current events, they wont be published until some time after.

3. Radio or TV= Can have some good source's of information these are generally just the podcast and YouTube of old, problem is even if your getting info from ABC you are better going with an ABC podcast you will get a far more detailed in depth take, although things like ABC podcast are pretty limited in information and updates as dealk with so many other topics.

4. Podcast=One of the best source of detailed information, you can get the views from those in the top of their field or even involved in the conflict, pretty much as things unfold and you are generally getting it from people who have followed these events in detail for years or even lived these thing's for years.

Of course you need to not just listen or follow one but get a variety of takes.

5. Youtube: Pretty much the same as Podcast, and has the advantage of getting updates on footage too.

Basically people like you are old farts out of touch with the ever changing information world, thats why you dont get how Podcast helped Trump get over the line, lots of young people dont even watch much TV let alone read a paper.

Indo, I wouldn't consider old farts like me are out of touch with the ever changing information world. Age does bring with it experience and wisdom, not to mention a fully functional bullshit filter.

Cheers.

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Jelly Flater Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 2:39pm

…..hahahahaha

- from the noinfo gerbil sphere:

‘This is a real smart move by Trump, both politically and practically.

He has now set a deadline date, you always set a deadline date when you want something done, and he also made it clear there is consequences if the hostages are not released if that date is not met.

However, you have to follow through with the threat if the deadline is not met, with Biden they would go yeah right whatever, but Trump is much more unpredictable and likely to follow through, so more likely to get results.

It's smart politically because if the hostages are somehow released before Trump gets in it's a win for Trump, he can claim it was because of him not Biden, and lets be real if it happens it will be because of the fear of Trump, nothing to do with Biden, if it was it would have happened under Biden long ago.

Id expect though this is a really a threat to Iran rather than Hamas, you have to go after the puppet master not just the puppet, you put the pressure on them, who then puts pressure on Hamas.

The consequences can come in all manner of forms for Iran from sanctions etc to supporting Israel in what is needed to take out underground nuclear sites.

You start small and increase pressure through a number of steps, sanctions, extra help for Israel to hit more military sites, then help with what is needed to hit underground nuclear sites, if still no results you have to make them suffer economically hitting oil sites etc, problem is you dont want to affect USA oil prices and shoot yourself in the foot, and you also dont want Iran people to support their government, so you need to be careful and smart.

But just the idea that the USA now are so much more supportive of Israel changes the whole game, before USA being so wishy washy and even holding Israel back with threats like they cant go into Raffa or restriction's on bombs etc was actually encouraging and rewarding Iran & it's proxies to stretch things out as long as they can, especially when they were happily seeing friction between both leaders, it was so counter productive.”

^ “ It'd be nice to get the place back to where it was when many people posted on a broad range of topics rather than the usual walruses bleating the same old shite.” (in good faith, of course)

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andy-mac Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 3:04pm

Blast from the past for Donald!

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Exxotixjeff Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 3:08pm

So no more making fun of usernames,
did you hear that guys?

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AlfredWallace Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 3:29pm
Exxotixjeff wrote:

So no more making fun of usernames,
did you hear that guys?

Say what ? Please tell Heeby and Juliang when you see them, tell em to pull their little heads in, we’ve got new rules, ok. AW

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Supafreak Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 3:53pm
AlfredWallace wrote:
Exxotixjeff wrote:

So no more making fun of usernames,
did you hear that guys?

Say what ? Please tell Heeby and Juliang when you see them, tell em to pull their little heads in, we’ve got new rules, ok. AW

Not sure how you interpreted stu’s message as no more making fun of usernames ……… “ It won't quite be zero tolerance but pretty close to it when it comes to things such as repetitive posting - got that Sexy Jeff? “ ……..you will always be Julia ng to me .

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Exxotixjeff Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 3:52pm
AlfredWallace wrote:
Exxotixjeff wrote:

So no more making fun of usernames,
did you hear that guys?

Say what ? Please tell Heeby and Juliang when you see them, tell em to pull their little heads in, we’ve got new rules, ok. AW

You’re the one with the photographic memory,
when was the last time you saw them ,
Or is that an ongoing issue for you?
Yes new rules, so you’d better pull your own head in with the derogatory flaccid remarks!

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indo-dreaming Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 3:56pm
A Salty Dog wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:
GuySmiley wrote:

@info sounds like he’s got a savage attack of priapism at the prospect of even more Arab blood being spilled, thou you really have to hand it to him for graduating from youtoob’s international school of diplomacy and foreign affairs … although someone should tell him that Nixon’s “grab them by the balls and let their hearts and minds follow” carpet bombing of Cambodia, a country not at war with the US is universally seen as a complete clusterfuck failure which further destabilised a legitimate government which saw the emergence of Pol Pot and the subsequent genocidal murder of up to 2.0 million Cambodians …. Of course all this is complex and @info doesn’t do complex ..

Read my post again the message Trump is sending is to Iran going direct to the puppet master, Iranian's are Persians not Arabs, and all the steps dont involve civilian war causalities.

-Sanctions
-Military target strikes
-Nuclear facility strikes

And in extreme cases things like oil facilities

To be fair to the Iran government, thats one area that you must respect them, they dont use their civilians as human shields, although weapon manufacturing or storage facilties in may still be in built up areas.

Very simply you make the puppet master hurt, because the puppet master unlike the puppets, jihadist like Hamas or Palestine Islamic Jihad actually care when they hurt.

As for sources of information and your dissing of Youtube.

1. Social media= Generally not a good source of information, generally short and even qualified opinions can be misleading in a 30 second twitter clip or quote.

2.Print news articles= Very short condensed information a page worth is only minutes worth in other forms such as podcast or Youtube videos, its fine for basic updates but not for diving deeper

2. Books= Great for history etc, but not current events, they wont be published until some time after.

3. Radio or TV= Can have some good source's of information these are generally just the podcast and YouTube of old, problem is even if your getting info from ABC you are better going with an ABC podcast you will get a far more detailed in depth take, although things like ABC podcast are pretty limited in information and updates as dealk with so many other topics.

4. Podcast=One of the best source of detailed information, you can get the views from those in the top of their field or even involved in the conflict, pretty much as things unfold and you are generally getting it from people who have followed these events in detail for years or even lived these thing's for years.

Of course you need to not just listen or follow one but get a variety of takes.

5. Youtube: Pretty much the same as Podcast, and has the advantage of getting updates on footage too.

Basically people like you are old farts out of touch with the ever changing information world, thats why you dont get how Podcast helped Trump get over the line, lots of young people dont even watch much TV let alone read a paper.

Indo, I wouldn't consider old farts like me are out of touch with the ever changing information world. Age does bring with it experience and wisdom, not to mention a fully functional bullshit filter.

Cheers.

You might also be an old fart, but my post wasn't directed at you it was directed at Guy, who often bags out Youtube and Podcast.

If your suggesting my thought's on Trumps tweet is bullshit, great id love to hear why you dont agree and give me your take

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GuySmiley Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 4:23pm

^^ apologies @info in addition to yourtoob I also should have mentioned the use of AI in your posts given your previous years long struggle to string two short sentences together without the usual punctuation, spelling and grammar mistakes. But as to your most recent post I’m glad you are now reading books because I remember you saying you didn’t and around this conversation you committed yourself to reading Dark Emu which you later said you hadn’t but then again it could all be, well you know more BS on your part!

As for your cheering for Trump being “unpredictable” and “tough” suggest you accept this as fact, coz, this “old fart” as seen it before

IMG-2430

And this, not forgetting the direct link of Nixon’s actions to the murder of up to 2 million Cambodians

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Menu

And while you’re at it @info check out what followed the fall of Iraq and the up to 1 million dead as a result of that illegal war … I’ll give you a hint google ISIS

All very complex for your pea brain to comprehend I know

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GuySmiley Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 4:25pm
stunet wrote:

I'll also type this elsewhere so people don't miss it...

The forums have been a chore for the last few months but change is afoot. In a few weeks, a new year begins and with it a new start. It won't quite be zero tolerance but pretty close to it when it comes to things such as repetitive posting - got that Sexy Jeff? - and argument by Youtube - hear that Jelly Flater?

It'd be nice to get the place back to where it was when many people posted on a broad range of topics rather than the usual walruses bleating the same old shite.

It might piss a few people off...but fuck it. Those few people are causing it a slow death anyway.

….. including putting political threads on the back page

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indo-dreaming Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 5:25pm
GuySmiley wrote:

^^ apologies @info in addition to yourtoob I also should have mentioned the use of AI in your posts given your previous years long struggle to string two short sentences together without the usual punctuation, spelling and grammar mistakes. But as to your most recent post I’m glad you are now reading books because I remember you saying you didn’t and around this conversation you committed yourself to reading Dark Emu which you later said you hadn’t but then again it could all be, well you know more BS on your part!

As for your cheering for Trump being “unpredictable” and “tough” suggest you accept this as fact, coz, this “old fart” as seen it before

IMG-2430

And this, not forgetting the direct link of Nixon’s actions to the murder of up to 2 million Cambodians

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Menu

And while you’re at it @info check out what followed the fall of Iraq and the up to 1 million dead as a result of that illegal war … I’ll give you a hint google ISIS

All very complex for your pea brain to comprehend I know

Using AI, Ha ha im going to take that as a compliment, I guess that means you think my post was well thought out and that my effort to work on my grammar and spelling etc is paying off a little, im sure the grammar police could still pick my post apart though.

Im sorry but every war and political situation is very different, im sure there is countless examples through history where a strong unpredictable leader has prevented war or changed a war in the way they wanted.

One thing for certain a wishy washy piss weak president hasn't helped much in this situation.

All situation's in the middle east are very different and yes complex, you thinking they are the same or one event means this for another event is complete garbage.

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Supafreak Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 5:29pm

@julia ng , here’s an early xmas prezzy .

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green room Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 5:59pm
stunet wrote:

Those few people are causing it a slow death anyway.

kn oath

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Exxotixjeff Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 6:03pm
Supafreak wrote:

@julia ng , here’s an early xmas prezzy . https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDDPH4pSn3F/?igsh=amJ2cTUzeDJkdm12

Sorry @ super creep
Get it, it sounds similar to super freak
But it’s actually super creep,
Haha , that little pun really gave my day a highlight!
Sorry my videos are too long for you and your thingos are too short for me to bother reading as well,
But I’m sure it’s fairly amusing though.

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 6:26pm

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Supafreak Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 8:50pm
Exxotixjeff wrote:
Supafreak wrote:

@julia ng , here’s an early xmas prezzy . https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDDPH4pSn3F/?igsh=amJ2cTUzeDJkdm12

Sorry @ super creep
Get it, it sounds similar to super freak
But it’s actually super creep,
Haha , that little pun really gave my day a highlight!
Sorry my videos are too long for you and your thingos are too short for me to bother reading as well,
But I’m sure it’s fairly amusing though.

I’m happy that you crack yourself up , a real highlight in your exciting day .

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tubeshooter Wednesday, 4 Dec 2024 at 8:54pm

Never go full monty.

Project 2025. Make Forums Great Again.

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A Salty Dog Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 9:32am
indo-dreaming wrote:
A Salty Dog wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:
GuySmiley wrote:

@info sounds like he’s got a savage attack of priapism at the prospect of even more Arab blood being spilled, thou you really have to hand it to him for graduating from youtoob’s international school of diplomacy and foreign affairs … although someone should tell him that Nixon’s “grab them by the balls and let their hearts and minds follow” carpet bombing of Cambodia, a country not at war with the US is universally seen as a complete clusterfuck failure which further destabilised a legitimate government which saw the emergence of Pol Pot and the subsequent genocidal murder of up to 2.0 million Cambodians …. Of course all this is complex and @info doesn’t do complex ..

Read my post again the message Trump is sending is to Iran going direct to the puppet master, Iranian's are Persians not Arabs, and all the steps dont involve civilian war causalities.

-Sanctions
-Military target strikes
-Nuclear facility strikes

And in extreme cases things like oil facilities

To be fair to the Iran government, thats one area that you must respect them, they dont use their civilians as human shields, although weapon manufacturing or storage facilties in may still be in built up areas.

Very simply you make the puppet master hurt, because the puppet master unlike the puppets, jihadist like Hamas or Palestine Islamic Jihad actually care when they hurt.

As for sources of information and your dissing of Youtube.

1. Social media= Generally not a good source of information, generally short and even qualified opinions can be misleading in a 30 second twitter clip or quote.

2.Print news articles= Very short condensed information a page worth is only minutes worth in other forms such as podcast or Youtube videos, its fine for basic updates but not for diving deeper

2. Books= Great for history etc, but not current events, they wont be published until some time after.

3. Radio or TV= Can have some good source's of information these are generally just the podcast and YouTube of old, problem is even if your getting info from ABC you are better going with an ABC podcast you will get a far more detailed in depth take, although things like ABC podcast are pretty limited in information and updates as dealk with so many other topics.

4. Podcast=One of the best source of detailed information, you can get the views from those in the top of their field or even involved in the conflict, pretty much as things unfold and you are generally getting it from people who have followed these events in detail for years or even lived these thing's for years.

Of course you need to not just listen or follow one but get a variety of takes.

5. Youtube: Pretty much the same as Podcast, and has the advantage of getting updates on footage too.

Basically people like you are old farts out of touch with the ever changing information world, thats why you dont get how Podcast helped Trump get over the line, lots of young people dont even watch much TV let alone read a paper.

Indo, I wouldn't consider old farts like me are out of touch with the ever changing information world. Age does bring with it experience and wisdom, not to mention a fully functional bullshit filter.

Cheers.

You might also be an old fart, but my post wasn't directed at you it was directed at Guy, who often bags out Youtube and Podcast.

If your suggesting my thought's on Trumps tweet is bullshit, great id love to hear why you dont agree and give me your take

All us old farts stand united. A slur against one is a slur against all.

We have a few things going on at the moment and I'm a bit "Trumped Out", so interest has waned. Let's see what happens after 20th January.

News is garnered from a couple of major news outlets and that will do me.

I've never bothered with anyone's podcasts: and what I've seen on YT leads me to believe they are mostly over-inflated egos looking to score a few hits. I have watched a few Sky News videos on YT, just to see what happens when nature goes bad. I have made the occasional comment to correct some of their "facts" and the replies I receive are really sad. It just makes me more determined not to end up like those clowns.

Have a great Christmas!

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seaslug Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 9:49am

"I've never bothered with anyone's podcasts: and what I've seen on YT leads me to believe they are mostly over-inflated egos looking to score a few hits."

Finally someone calls out the truth, Merry Christmas as well salty dog

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old-dog Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 9:59am

The younger generations don't understand the difference between pseudo science on social media and real hard earned peer reviewed science.
It's all about "my truth" and my right to believe anything that favors my already made up mind.

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GuySmiley Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 10:46am

I also agree @salty-dog, the only YouTube I watch regularly is music, surfing and classic cars, same goes for podcasts, my bag is packed and I’m off later to a place happily with no internet. Happy Christmas to all

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AlfredWallace Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 10:57am

I’m with Two Dogs.

Get your head out of ‘unbelievable’ social media, dust off all that spin and bullshit and step outside into the ‘real world’ where you make up your own mind and not somebody else making it for you.

Read books, they are great.

The word ‘influencer’ has to be the most fucked up descriptive word of the past two decades, influencers my arse, get a fucking real job and a life. AW

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A Salty Dog Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 12:00pm

@SS, o-d, GS and AW.

Life is for living as they say!!

As we approach another Christmas, and they seem come around much faster as we age, I am drawn to some lyrics composed by the outstanding musician, Greg Lake.

To all Swellnetters:

I wish you a hopeful Christmas
I wish you a brave new year
All anguish pain and sadness
Leave your heart and let your road be clear.

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AlfredWallace Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 12:15pm
A Salty Dog wrote:

@SS, o-d, GS and AW.

Life is for living as they say!!

As we approach another Christmas, and they seem come around much faster as we age, I am drawn to some lyrics composed by the outstanding musician, Greg Lake.

To all Swellnetters:

I wish you a hopeful Christmas
I wish you a brave new year
All anguish pain and sadness
Leave your heart and let your road be clear.

A Salty Dog. Hi mate.

Good stuff. All the best to you and your family. AW

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burleigh Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 12:31pm
old-dog wrote:

The younger generations don't understand the difference between pseudo science on social media and real hard earned peer reviewed science.
It's all about "my truth" and my right to believe anything that favors my already made up mind.

real hard earned peer reviewed $cience. Fixed it for ya oldflog.

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 1:49pm
A Salty Dog wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:
A Salty Dog wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:
GuySmiley wrote:

@info sounds like he’s got a savage attack of priapism at the prospect of even more Arab blood being spilled, thou you really have to hand it to him for graduating from youtoob’s international school of diplomacy and foreign affairs … although someone should tell him that Nixon’s “grab them by the balls and let their hearts and minds follow” carpet bombing of Cambodia, a country not at war with the US is universally seen as a complete clusterfuck failure which further destabilised a legitimate government which saw the emergence of Pol Pot and the subsequent genocidal murder of up to 2.0 million Cambodians …. Of course all this is complex and @info doesn’t do complex ..

Read my post again the message Trump is sending is to Iran going direct to the puppet master, Iranian's are Persians not Arabs, and all the steps dont involve civilian war causalities.

-Sanctions
-Military target strikes
-Nuclear facility strikes

And in extreme cases things like oil facilities

To be fair to the Iran government, thats one area that you must respect them, they dont use their civilians as human shields, although weapon manufacturing or storage facilties in may still be in built up areas.

Very simply you make the puppet master hurt, because the puppet master unlike the puppets, jihadist like Hamas or Palestine Islamic Jihad actually care when they hurt.

As for sources of information and your dissing of Youtube.

1. Social media= Generally not a good source of information, generally short and even qualified opinions can be misleading in a 30 second twitter clip or quote.

2.Print news articles= Very short condensed information a page worth is only minutes worth in other forms such as podcast or Youtube videos, its fine for basic updates but not for diving deeper

2. Books= Great for history etc, but not current events, they wont be published until some time after.

3. Radio or TV= Can have some good source's of information these are generally just the podcast and YouTube of old, problem is even if your getting info from ABC you are better going with an ABC podcast you will get a far more detailed in depth take, although things like ABC podcast are pretty limited in information and updates as dealk with so many other topics.

4. Podcast=One of the best source of detailed information, you can get the views from those in the top of their field or even involved in the conflict, pretty much as things unfold and you are generally getting it from people who have followed these events in detail for years or even lived these thing's for years.

Of course you need to not just listen or follow one but get a variety of takes.

5. Youtube: Pretty much the same as Podcast, and has the advantage of getting updates on footage too.

Basically people like you are old farts out of touch with the ever changing information world, thats why you dont get how Podcast helped Trump get over the line, lots of young people dont even watch much TV let alone read a paper.

Indo, I wouldn't consider old farts like me are out of touch with the ever changing information world. Age does bring with it experience and wisdom, not to mention a fully functional bullshit filter.

Cheers.

You might also be an old fart, but my post wasn't directed at you it was directed at Guy, who often bags out Youtube and Podcast.

If your suggesting my thought's on Trumps tweet is bullshit, great id love to hear why you dont agree and give me your take

All us old farts stand united. A slur against one is a slur against all.

We have a few things going on at the moment and I'm a bit "Trumped Out", so interest has waned. Let's see what happens after 20th January.

News is garnered from a couple of major news outlets and that will do me.

I've never bothered with anyone's podcasts: and what I've seen on YT leads me to believe they are mostly over-inflated egos looking to score a few hits. I have watched a few Sky News videos on YT, just to see what happens when nature goes bad. I have made the occasional comment to correct some of their "facts" and the replies I receive are really sad. It just makes me more determined not to end up like those clowns.

Have a great Christmas!

Sorry but theres is millions of old guys and gal's around the world that use Youtube and podcast, but yes many feared the car when first introduced thinking the horse and cart was the only transport they could trust.

BTW. You do know that all those mainstream news outlets are also on Youtube and many also have podcast too, the only difference is you can get a much more in depth look at news stories or people that they might interview etc.

If your an ABC listener/viewer check out the ABC podcast, they actually do some pretty decent ones (bias aside at times)

And if your interested in a certain country and its news, you can even use YouTube or podcast to listen to their mainstream news, it's quite literally like having this huge TV antenna that can pick up al these media outlets across the globe.

Yes Happy Christmas, or Happy Birthday to Jesus the most famous Jew of all time born in Bethlehem, Judea (know as the West Bank since 1950)

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Exxotixjeff Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 2:48pm

Everything is on YouTube .
You just need to decipher the facts from the non facts
The interesting from the uninteresting,
The relevant from the irrelevant.
The important from the unimportant.
The pro democracy channels , from the anti democracy channels, from the shiny ,”both sides are normal “ channels.

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Supafreak Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 3:43pm

The far left and the far right propaganda machine on YouTube is enlightening stuff .

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GuySmiley Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 3:52pm

See you all in the new year about to loose all connection with the outside world for hopefully a few weeks …..

“ …. Happy Birthday to Jesus the most famous Jew of all time ….”, probably the case, a revolutionary man of peace according to the bible bookend by an alleged war criminal leading a country that Amnesty International also accuses of committing genocide and war crimes in Gaza.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/05/israels-war-in-gaza-amount...

See you all in 2025

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Supafreak Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 3:55pm

Merry Xmas GS , stay safe & hope ya score some uncrowded waves .

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basesix Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 4:01pm

Happy Crissy @Guy, travel safe. Here's an Adelaide 90s telly treat.. an ad for a brewed hard-lemonade, ahead of its time, @AW referring to the 'Two Dogs' reminded me of it. (the brand started up cos of a glut of lemons in the Hills, and got its name from that joke about the Native American child who asks an elder how they get their tribal names, which ends after a long spun out yarn: '..why do you ask, Two Dogs Fucking?'

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zenagain Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 5:07pm

"given your previous years long struggle to string two short sentences together without the usual punctuation, spelling and grammar mistakes."

All the best Guy, Merry Christmas to you too- hope you have a loose one.

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 5:08pm
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See you all in the new year about to loose all connection with the outside world for hopefully a few weeks …..

“ …. Happy Birthday to Jesus the most famous Jew of all time ….”, probably the case, a revolutionary man of peace according to the bible bookend by an alleged war criminal leading a country that Amnesty International also accuses of committing genocide and war crimes in Gaza.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/05/israels-war-in-gaza-amount...

See you all in 2025

See this women her name is Alice Nderitu she is an expert on genocide written papers on the subject and definition for the UN sadly recently she was fired by the UN for not playing political games and actually saying no sorry the war in Gaza does not fit the definition of genocide.

Article only a week or so old

"UN firing Nderitu over refusal to apply 'genocide' to Israel, WSJ argues"
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/un-firing-nderitu-over-refusal-to-a...

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 5:16pm

Anyway back to the USA

"Trump considers DeSantis for Defense secretary as Hegseth appears to falter"

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/03/trump-considers-desantis-defens...

Happy to hear this im a big fan of De Santis, although i did read an article that claimed the move wouldn't be good for his political aspirations to run for president in the future

Im sure him and his team know if there is truth in that and will make the best decision possible if Trump does give him the position.

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basesix Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 5:29pm

hey @indo, you heading off with @Guy?
(that wicked wave painting you did + @Guy's landscapes..
imagine the co-produced art you could create together during down time on an off-grid summer safari..)

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indo-dreaming wrote:

Anyway back to the USA

"Trump considers DeSantis for Defense secretary as Hegseth appears to falter"

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/03/trump-considers-desantis-defens...

Happy to hear this im a big fan of De Santis, although i did read an article that claimed the move wouldn't be good for his political aspirations to run for president in the future

Im sure him and his team know if there is truth in that and will make the best decision possible if Trump does give him the position.

Is this more of your left wing propaganda
Trying to show us how inept and unprepared
Trump is at choosing a cabinet and his team.?

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tubeshooter Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 5:57pm

Biden considering blanket pre-emptive pardons for Cheney, Schiff and Fauci.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pard...

Please disperse...... Nothing to see here.

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basesix Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 5:59pm

I've started hoofing into the Andrew Fowler book 'Nuked; the submarine fiasco that sank Australia's sovereignty'.. well written, obviously, a clear 'initalisms' glossary and overall contextualising for those of us a bit political-machinations-ignorant.

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A Salty Dog wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:
A Salty Dog wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:
GuySmiley wrote:

@info sounds like he’s got a savage attack of priapism at the prospect of even more Arab blood being spilled, thou you really have to hand it to him for graduating from youtoob’s international school of diplomacy and foreign affairs … although someone should tell him that Nixon’s “grab them by the balls and let their hearts and minds follow” carpet bombing of Cambodia, a country not at war with the US is universally seen as a complete clusterfuck failure which further destabilised a legitimate government which saw the emergence of Pol Pot and the subsequent genocidal murder of up to 2.0 million Cambodians …. Of course all this is complex and @info doesn’t do complex ..

Read my post again the message Trump is sending is to Iran going direct to the puppet master, Iranian's are Persians not Arabs, and all the steps dont involve civilian war causalities.

-Sanctions
-Military target strikes
-Nuclear facility strikes

And in extreme cases things like oil facilities

To be fair to the Iran government, thats one area that you must respect them, they dont use their civilians as human shields, although weapon manufacturing or storage facilties in may still be in built up areas.

Very simply you make the puppet master hurt, because the puppet master unlike the puppets, jihadist like Hamas or Palestine Islamic Jihad actually care when they hurt.

As for sources of information and your dissing of Youtube.

1. Social media= Generally not a good source of information, generally short and even qualified opinions can be misleading in a 30 second twitter clip or quote.

2.Print news articles= Very short condensed information a page worth is only minutes worth in other forms such as podcast or Youtube videos, its fine for basic updates but not for diving deeper

2. Books= Great for history etc, but not current events, they wont be published until some time after.

3. Radio or TV= Can have some good source's of information these are generally just the podcast and YouTube of old, problem is even if your getting info from ABC you are better going with an ABC podcast you will get a far more detailed in depth take, although things like ABC podcast are pretty limited in information and updates as dealk with so many other topics.

4. Podcast=One of the best source of detailed information, you can get the views from those in the top of their field or even involved in the conflict, pretty much as things unfold and you are generally getting it from people who have followed these events in detail for years or even lived these thing's for years.

Of course you need to not just listen or follow one but get a variety of takes.

5. Youtube: Pretty much the same as Podcast, and has the advantage of getting updates on footage too.

Basically people like you are old farts out of touch with the ever changing information world, thats why you dont get how Podcast helped Trump get over the line, lots of young people dont even watch much TV let alone read a paper.

Indo, I wouldn't consider old farts like me are out of touch with the ever changing information world. Age does bring with it experience and wisdom, not to mention a fully functional bullshit filter.

Cheers.

You might also be an old fart, but my post wasn't directed at you it was directed at Guy, who often bags out Youtube and Podcast.

If your suggesting my thought's on Trumps tweet is bullshit, great id love to hear why you dont agree and give me your take

All us old farts stand united. A slur against one is a slur against all.

We have a few things going on at the moment and I'm a bit "Trumped Out", so interest has waned. Let's see what happens after 20th January.

News is garnered from a couple of major news outlets and that will do me.

I've never bothered with anyone's podcasts: and what I've seen on YT leads me to believe they are mostly over-inflated egos looking to score a few hits. I have watched a few Sky News videos on YT, just to see what happens when nature goes bad. I have made the occasional comment to correct some of their "facts" and the replies I receive are really sad. It just makes me more determined not to end up like those clowns.

Have a great Christmas!

Sorry but theres is millions of old guys and gal's around the world that use Youtube and podcast, but yes many feared the car when first introduced thinking the horse and cart was the only transport they could trust.

BTW. You do know that all those mainstream news outlets are also on Youtube and many also have podcast too, the only difference is you can get a much more in depth look at news stories or people that they might interview etc.

If your an ABC listener/viewer check out the ABC podcast, they actually do some pretty decent ones (bias aside at times)

And if your interested in a certain country and its news, you can even use YouTube or podcast to listen to their mainstream news, it's quite literally like having this huge TV antenna that can pick up al these media outlets across the globe.

Yes Happy Christmas, or Happy Birthday to Jesus the most famous Jew of all time born in Bethlehem, Judea (know as the West Bank since 1950)

I have embraced technology and use it often, but not to the point of it dominating my life. I do have reservations regarding self driving vehicles and I can’t see myself using that if it ever becomes legal here.

I am aware of all the specialised news outlets available, and I do access the occasional YouTube video as I explained earlier. But that will do.

At this point in time other issues need to be dealt with.

I have travelled a little in years gone by, but thanks for the geography lesson.

Cheers!

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quadzilla Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 6:47pm

TUCKhead Carlson has done an interview with Ladrov...,Kremlin foreignMinister.Will be available soon.

For anyone not familiar with Ladrov, he is a PooTin brownNose...full of threats usually.He will say the same as his boss(and if he doesn't,risks a tea appointment or meeting near an open window of a multi storied building).

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Exxotixjeff Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 7:23pm

Just donated money to Wikipedia,
Their fundraiser ends soon!

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Supafreak Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 7:35pm
Exxotixjeff wrote:

Just donated money to Wikipedia,
Their fundraiser ends soon!

why am I not surprised.

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 7:50pm
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hey @indo, you heading off with @Guy?
(that wicked wave painting you did + @Guy's landscapes..
imagine the co-produced art you could create together during down time on an off-grid summer safari..)

Id be up for it, if it was filmed so everyone could have a laugh.

Maybe as a short docco/social experiment just me and Guy on a remote surf trip surfing and painting.

A Swellnet series called butting heads, Burleigh & Roadkill would be another good one, who else? maybe Southern raw & Andy (im sure they would get on fine though), and for longtime Swellnetter's, get Blowin & Blindboy together, but for the final highlight of the series maybe Stunet & Erotic Jeff

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southernraw Thursday, 5 Dec 2024 at 8:07pm

haha. I'm trying to be a peaceful law abiding Swellnutter Indo.