The United States(!) of A
I love Rogan..I listen to most of his podcasts..some I get to the end, some halfway and some are binned after 5 mins. He ain’t stupid but he can be super dumb. He knows the power he holds and loves to soft brag…he loves the power irrespective of him trying to downplay it.
I especially love his podcasts when he talks hunting stuff… Steve Renella has done a couple of super guest slots. Also Andrew Dice Clay is another classic podcast.
but...
team obama!
really?
fucken morons
seeing these parasites of politics having their arses handed to em is possibly the sweetest part of a trump victory...
or would be...
if they were even aware of what actually happened
goofyfoot wrote:Adam12 you make a good case.
I always like reading your posts, they tend to cover a lot of ground with a bit of everything thrown in.
Have a good night mate.
+1
I'm reluctant to use this language around climate change...
but, is it any wonder a large part of the population now sees it as the scam and joke it has become?
https://x.com/Theblackfemini3/status/1861900991442084053
those indoor lights and snow machine powered by aussie coal?
sypkan wrote:but...
team obama!
really?
fucken morons
seeing these parasites of politics having their arses handed to em is possibly the sweetest part of a trump victory...
or would be...
if they were even aware of what actually happened
We agree on something.
The Dems that ran the campaign are 100% delusional. None have yet to fully acknowledge why they lost and 100% think they are the right people to run the next campaign in 4 years.
Exxotixjeff wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Roadkill wrote:Joe Rogan on one of his podcasts this week.
Rogan. Yeah, fucking Obama lies…I just found out he lied about blah blah.
Someone else. You don’t like him?
Rogan. No, he lies.
Someone else. What about Trump.
Rogan, yeah, he is the man. I love him.On a completely different subject.
The CEO of the company that makes the fake food Twinkies has said he may reduce sugars and some additives in their products.
Trump and RFK may just scare them into making positive changes.I find it really interesting to have watched Rogan change his political mindset go from being pro Democrat voter had Bernie Sanders on the show supported Obama, went through a phase of just hating both Trump and Hillary then Biden, and now supporting Trump.
Changing your mind though is important, being aware that political parties have also changed greatly over time is important, instead of just voting based on a name.
So changing your mind from being a
climate change activist, to being a
climate change denier ,
is important . Why?Um who are you talking about?
One of the worlds greatest
climate change deniers, Trumps endorsement guy RoganHa ha i dont think he was ever either, the episodes ive watched he hasn't denied man made climate change, but he has had on guest that have or he has said controversial things around the issue more recently about the effect of eating meat on climate change or how much of a role USA has compared to say China, he has also talked about things like how much of it is man made, how much of it is natural cycles, and to what extent do we change society to deal with things, change and adaption need to be realistic and the cure not worse than the disease type thing.
Personally i dont agree with everything he says or his guest views around this issue, and Im sure you can dig up many video's of him or his guest saying this or that to make him look bad, but i also get many of his points.
IMHO this topic isn't black and white, there is so many shades of grey between some crazy radical doomsday activist like Gretta thumberg and then some complete climate denier who says there is no such thing as climate change or man has no effect at all on climate
Most of us sit somewhere along those shades of grey in both our view points on effect and urgency and also how we adapt to create change or what measures of change are realistic and what aren't.
So Gretta Thumberg on one end of the scale,
is a crazy radical.
But Trump on the other end of the scale
is just some guy that disagrees,
with science a bit.
Nicely normalised there for your average
Sea slugs .
If the scale is one to ten with five being neutral and Greta is at one, i wouldn't put Trump at ten id put him around seven. (and i put most here including myself around three to four)
He definitely doesn't see it as a priority issue, but id call him a climate skeptic rather than denier.
But that said he says a lot of crazy shit so its hard to say
Here is more of his moderate views from him on the issue.
"I think there is some connectivity [between human activity and climate change]. There is some, something. It depends on how much. It also depends on how much it's going to cost our companies." - NYT interview, November 2016.
"I don't think there's a hoax. I do think there's probably a difference. But I don't know that it's man-made... I don't wanna give trillions and trillions of dollars." - CBS interview, October 2018
"Climate change is very important to me. I've done many environmental impact statements in my life, and I believe very strongly in very, very crystal clear clean water and clean air." - December 2019
"Nothing's a hoax about that. It's a very serious subject... I want the cleanest air, I want the cleanest water. The environment is very important to me. I also want jobs. I don't want to close up our industry because somebody said you have to go with wind." - January 2020
Trumps pick for head of the pentagon ,
Fox anchorman ,Pete Hegseth
Is called out by his own mother, as an
abuser of women,
Imagine Dutton picking
Carl Stefanovik as head of the Australian Defence Force,
That’s the reality that is being normalised
by Indo and his mates.
Interesting the anti trump posters in here are also the pro vaxers
elmo wrote:Interesting the anti trump posters in here are also the pro vaxers
Actually anti vaccine is the only thing I agree with them on ,
It’s just the authoritarianism plans , that I
don’t agree with.
So your generalisation theories don’t always work.
elmo wrote:Interesting the anti trump posters in here are also the pro vaxers
Yeah i dont think that is really correct, i was happily vaxed but im happy with Trump winning, others like Southern raw anti Trump and also anti vax.
It's a bit all over the shop.
Is southern raw anti vax ? I think you may have him confused with not wanting the covid jab for a variety of reasons . You make some weird statements indo , or are you fishing for a reaction ?
indo-dreaming wrote:elmo wrote:Interesting the anti trump posters in here are also the pro vaxers
Yeah i dont think that is really correct, i was happily vaxed but im happy with Trump winning, others like Southern raw anti Trump and also anti vax.
It's a bit all over the shop.
Just out of interest, now it looks like an international Tariff war , pushing prices up ,
and looking like the mass deportation plans ,
will be impossible,and will also trash the economy,
And many voters regretting their votes, already
What part are you happy about a Trump win.
I will be happy with changes in the FDA , CDC , NIH , these institutions are rife with corruption and favour big pharma in order to move into positions that pay way better than a government job . Gain of function programs need to be banned . Companies like monsanto need heavy regulation in what they can do to crops and food . I could go on but what’s the point. Will DT make a difference in these areas ? No idea , it’s a wait & see . Do you believe anything needs changing ?
Supafreak wrote:Is southern raw anti vax ? I think you may have him confused with not wanting the covid jab for a variety of reasons . You make some weird statements indo , or are you fishing for a reaction ?
Sorry i should have worded it better, i didn't mean it like that, i meant anti covid vax.
Me and him are in this strange period of peace, so not fishing at all, no negative intentions there, was just try to make the point of peoples views on Trump are varied compared to views on covid vax.
Surf cars other than a Tesla was recently discussed here in the Emporium, can’t say on this thread, not sure where, but I have some good news for was it @zen, @AW or some other lover of metal and grunt in their daily drive. Apologies if I’ve forgotten your name, anyway ….. I’m sitting at the lights and I hear the distinctive full throated rumble of an AMG V8 at ideal except the car next to me is classic 80’s/90’s Mercedes wagon with all those beautiful curves and tricked up with wider guards, rims and lowered … rumbling next to me until the lights turned green and then it was gone, no wheel spin but it flew off leaving us all in its wake, such a beautiful thing
indo-dreaming wrote:Supafreak wrote:Is southern raw anti vax ? I think you may have him confused with not wanting the covid jab for a variety of reasons . You make some weird statements indo , or are you fishing for a reaction ?
Sorry i should have worded it better, i didn't mean it like that, i meant anti covid vax.
Good of you to realise that indo . Do you think elmo is ashsam ? Posts over the last few days on various threads are similar . I’m just guessing .
Exxotixjeff wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:elmo wrote:Interesting the anti trump posters in here are also the pro vaxers
Yeah i dont think that is really correct, i was happily vaxed but im happy with Trump winning, others like Southern raw anti Trump and also anti vax.
It's a bit all over the shop.
Just out of interest, now it looks like an international Tariff war , pushing prices up ,
and looking like the mass deportation plans ,
will be impossible,and will also trash the economy,
And many voters regretting their votes, already
What part are you happy about a Trump win.
Yeah sure if you are caught in some bubble of anti Trump videos or get your news from msnbc you might think that.
But his post approval rating are going up.
"Somehow, Americans Are Liking Trump Better Every Day
The incoming administration’s cabinet appointments are a bizarre disaster. So why are the president-elect’s approval ratings going up?"
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-approval-ratings/
"November 2024 National Poll: Trump Favorability Jumps Post-Election; 2028 Election Kicks Off with Harris and Vance Leading Primaries"
https://emersoncollegepolling.com/november-2024-national-poll-trump-favo...
Both article 4 days old.
Supafreak wrote:I will be happy with changes in the FDA , CDC , NIH , these institutions are rife with corruption and favour big pharma in order to move into positions that pay way better than a government job . Gain of function programs need to be banned . Companies like monsanto need heavy regulation in what they can do to crops and food . I could go on but what’s the point. Will DT make a difference in these areas ? No idea , it’s a wait & see . Do you believe anything needs changing ?
Why do you have no idea that Trump
will make a difference in environmental
protection.
Trump has always been anti regulation
that’s he’s whole agenda
he wants to gut the Environmental Protection Agency, let the frackers and oil drillers do what they want,
He’s made a CEO of a fracking company
Head of the Energy Department,
He claims climate change is a hoax
What more do you need to know?
Supafreak wrote:I will be happy with changes in the FDA , CDC , NIH , these institutions are rife with corruption and favour big pharma in order to move into positions that pay way better than a government job . Gain of function programs need to be banned . Companies like monsanto need heavy regulation in what they can do to crops and food . I could go on but what’s the point. Will DT make a difference in these areas ? No idea , it’s a wait & see . Do you believe anything needs changing ?
Why do you have no idea that Trump
will make a difference in environmental
protection.
Trump has always been anti regulation
that’s he’s whole agenda
he wants to gut the Environmental Protection Agency, let the frackers and oil drillers do what they want,
He’s made a CEO of a fracking company
Head of the Energy Department,
He claims climate change is a hoax
What more do you need to know?
You asked what part are people happy about a trump win so I told you my thoughts, do you think anything needs changing ? What do you believe Biden / Harris were doing that was so good ? Maybe you could write a letter to the American public and ask for a ‘ please explain ‘
"Personally i think both Musk and Rogan are good role models both driven high achievers but still down to earth, but yeah they are human so aren't without flaws.
You to some extent, but more so Adam and Erotic Jeff the odd other like Old dog.
Basically butt hurt that Trump got in, and i think actually waking up to the reality that maybe Musk and Rogan etc did help sway things to what extent is hard to say though."
Righto then, bro on fucknuts.
They're showing the Rogan episode where the ketamine junkie that's fathered 12 children (who hate his guts) with different women and the usually stoned kickboxer are sharing spliffs discussing the Adderall junkie fascist idiot President, you know the sexual predator that just grabs 'em by the pussy because he can and does the double jerk off dance to the greatest gay anthem in history, at the local primary school later on today at a "morals for morons" seminar they are holding. So I'm busy today. It's a touring show apparently so when it gets to the Island you can take your kids along, give them some epic role models.
Or maybe just show them the clip of Don Jnr, gumming coke with his father and Elon standing next to him at the failed SpaceX launch last week, or maybe just tell them how heroin will improve their grades at school by showing them Bobby Jnr. explaining the study benefits of becoming a junkie.
So many great MAGA role models, driven high achievers the lot of them. All so lucid, moral and upstanding and yes, flawed, but aren't we all, you particularly.
Also if I could I'd bother responding more to you I would, but right now I'm sitting in the doctor's waiting room with the head of the ABC waiting to get some ointment for my butt hurt. because Trump won and Joe Rogan gets so many views and maybe Elon had something to do with Trump winning.
It hurts so much.
Agony.
And I agree it would not be 'balanced' for Joe to have Zelensky, or Trump on unless he also gave Putin a slot, false equivalence doesn't come into it at all, just because Zelensky is a democratically elected leader of a country invaded by an autocratic dictator, you can't have one on without the other, it's not balanced and balance is Joe's big thing. I mean, it would be like interviewing Winston Churchill during the Battle of Britain and not also granting equal time to Adolf Hitler, that's a no no in the bro show world. Got to have "balance".
Fuck you're stupid.
I'm out of this crap, another extended hiatus for me. Better uses of time for me.
@GuySmiley, it was me that was talking about car curves, and yep, an AMG C63 is an incredible motor car, but don't those classics and their lines and curves turn your head. Awesome shapes, awesome engineering.
See you in a few weeks boys.
Supafreak wrote:?si=hgKEBMZTTxrJlYp8You asked what part are people happy about a trump win so I told you my thoughts, do you think anything needs changing ? What do you believe Biden / Harris were doing that was so good ?
Well obviously things need changing
What do yo believe Biden/ Harris were doing that was so good?
Obviously they were pushing for a green energy solution to global climate change,
Which Trump has called BS and will try to dismantle, as soon as he can .
AlsoTrumps drill baby drill policy where he will try to lift the ban on drilling and fracking in as many
national parks as he can .
Also I-like the Harris appreciation of democracy
and their desire to keep it.
Make sure you try and watch the video
It might help explain it a bit better.
Exxotixjeff wrote:Also I-like the Harris appreciation of democracy
and their desire to keep it..
Correct me if im wrong anyone, but im pretty sure she is the only person in over 50 years that has run for president without being nominated in the primary's
She didn't even get any nominations from her party in the 2020 primary's.
"Democratic Party’s choice of Harris was undemocratic − and the latest evidence of party leaders distrusting party voters"
https://theconversation.com/democratic-partys-choice-of-harris-was-undem...
adam12 wrote:"Personally i think both Musk and Rogan are good role models both driven high achievers but still down to earth, but yeah they are human so aren't without flaws.
You to some extent, but more so Adam and Erotic Jeff the odd other like Old dog.Basically butt hurt that Trump got in, and i think actually waking up to the reality that maybe Musk and Rogan etc did help sway things to what extent is hard to say though."
Righto then, bro on fucknuts.
They're showing the Rogan episode where the ketamine junkie that's fathered 12 children (who hate his guts) with different women and the usually stoned kickboxer are sharing spliffs discussing the Adderall junkie fascist idiot President, you know the sexual predator that just grabs 'em by the pussy because he can and does the double jerk off dance to the greatest gay anthem in history, at the local primary school later on today at a "morals for morons" seminar they are holding. So I'm busy today. It's a touring show apparently so when it gets to the Island you can take your kids along, give them some epic role models.Or maybe just show them the clip of Don Jnr, gumming coke with his father and Elon standing next to him at the failed SpaceX launch last week, or maybe just tell them how heroin will improve their grades at school by showing them Bobby Jnr. explaining the study benefits of becoming a junkie.
So many great MAGA role models, driven high achievers the lot of them. All so lucid, moral and upstanding and yes, flawed, but aren't we all, you particularly.
Also if I could I'd bother responding more to you I would, but right now I'm sitting in the doctor's waiting room with the head of the ABC waiting to get some ointment for my butt hurt. because Trump won and Joe Rogan gets so many views and maybe Elon had something to do with Trump winning.
It hurts so much.
Agony.
And I agree it would not be 'balanced' for Joe to have Zelensky, or Trump on unless he also gave Putin a slot, false equivalence doesn't come into it at all, just because Zelensky is a democratically elected leader of a country invaded by an autocratic dictator, you can't have one on without the other, it's not balanced and balance is Joe's big thing. I mean, it would be like interviewing Winston Churchill during the Battle of Britain and not also granting equal time to Adolf Hitler, that's a no no in the bro show world. Got to have "balance".
Fuck you're stupid.I'm out of this crap, another extended hiatus for me. Better uses of time for me.
@GuySmiley, it was me that was talking about car curves, and yep, an AMG C63 is an incredible motor car, but don't those classics and their lines and curves turn your head. Awesome shapes, awesome engineering.
See you in a few weeks boys.
How about we try something different and take it down a notch
How was that morning surf?
Exxotixjeff wrote:Supafreak wrote:?si=hgKEBMZTTxrJlYp8You asked what part are people happy about a trump win so I told you my thoughts, do you think anything needs changing ? What do you believe Biden / Harris were doing that was so good ?
Well obviously things need changing
What do yo believe Biden/ Harris were doing that was so good?
Obviously they were pushing for a green energy solution to global climate change,
Which Trump has called BS and will try to dismantle, as soon as he can .
AlsoTrumps drill baby drill policy where he will try to lift the ban on drilling and fracking in as many
national parks as he can .
Also I-like the Harris appreciation of democracy
and their desire to keep it.
Make sure you try and watch the video
It might help explain it a bit better.
Hahahaha fark you are good for a laugh , I will pass on the msnbc thanks . Have you thought about moving to America and placarding the streets with your message ? It would reach more people than this thread .
“ … How about we try something different and take it down a notch …”
Bahahaha you love being the #forummonitor be it self appointed and all, thanks for the laugh @info
Ok @adam12, yeah it really is a sweet sounding engine along with the Spitfire & Harley and that Merc wagon this morning was stunning, original metallic green, beautiful …. that surf you had wasn’t opposite phipps’ old shop was it?
;)
https://m.
the supposed RWNJ's are not 'far right' at al...
it appears...
"The most significant transformation in politics on both sides of the Atlantic in the last 20 years has been the left’s acceptance, even embrace, of globalization. In the 1990s, social movements against global sweatshops and ecological damage by irresponsible multinationals presciently warned that a system of constant capital mobility, backed by norms and rules codified by international bodies such as the World Trade Organization, would empower a new oligarchy immune to challenges from below.
By the mid-2010s, amid Brexit, Donald Trump’s first victory, and the backlash against Angela Merkel’s liberal migration policy, a new approach to globalization had become dominant on the left: one that equated skepticism about it with regressive chauvinism, and viewed a system of uniformly open economies as paramount to global human welfare. Only a dwindling minority of progressives maintained that nation-states, despite their flaws, still constitute the best means to inscribe democratic principles into economic life..."
https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-prophet-of-left-conservatism/
what a paragraph!
"The frequent conflation of openness with worldliness, however, is a powerful tool with which to smear all opposition to globalism as reactionary. This only further eases policy capture: In Streeck’s schema, greater openness, encouraged in public discourse as a matter of enlightened middle-class values, correlates with the insulation of economic governance from genuine public oversight. Our final traces of self-government, in short, become a mirage, tenuously perpetuated by routine elections of vanishing consequence."
'reactionary'
haha..
so much material
enough to make one frown...
Supafreak wrote:I will be happy with changes in the FDA , CDC , NIH , these institutions are rife with corruption and favour big pharma in order to move into positions that pay way better than a government job . Gain of function programs need to be banned . Companies like monsanto need heavy regulation in what they can do to crops and food . I could go on but what’s the point. Will DT make a difference in these areas ? No idea , it’s a wait & see . Do you believe anything needs changing ?
you have to be suspicious of anyone that is not in favour of these things...
ANYONE!
who is that anyone?
well, the whole democrat party...
once again, when left become a and right...
(clearly 'right' but wrong at the same time)
why would anyone defend such waywardness?
anyone!
GuySmiley wrote:“ … How about we try something different and take it down a notch …”
Bahahaha you love being the #forummonitor be it self appointed and all, thanks for the laugh @info
Ok @adam12, yeah it really is a sweet sounding engine along with the Spitfire & Harley and that Merc wagon this morning was stunning, original metallic green, beautiful …. that surf you had wasn’t opposite phipps’ old shop was it?
It's more like, okay dude whatever i get it you hate Rogan, Musk, Trump.
Time to try to just leave him to it.
Try at least.
Bret and Eric Weinstein are both smart very interesting people, although personally i find Bret a bit nutty at times listened to Eric less but he seems more together
Both have very interesting views on Trump and what it means for the USA & the world, in some ways both see it as a good thing but at the same time have some fear.
&list=PLLcayDZ_ypeD9DxEL-zZnPRLuaZg-YQGL Supafreak wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:Supafreak wrote:?si=hgKEBMZTTxrJlYp8You asked what part are people happy about a trump win so I told you my thoughts, do you think anything needs changing ? What do you believe Biden / Harris were doing that was so good ?
Well obviously things need changing
What do yo believe Biden/ Harris were doing that was so good?
Obviously they were pushing for a green energy solution to global climate change,
Which Trump has called BS and will try to dismantle, as soon as he can .
AlsoTrumps drill baby drill policy where he will try to lift the ban on drilling and fracking in as many
national parks as he can .
Also I-like the Harris appreciation of democracy
and their desire to keep it.
Make sure you try and watch the video
It might help explain it a bit better.Hahahaha fark you are good for a laugh , I will pass on the msnbc thanks . Have you thought about moving to America and placarding the streets with your message ? It would reach more people than this thread .
Hey concerned citizen
The video shows Trump signing a document with Dow executives , lifting a ban on a very toxic chemical in pesticide.
That was a big concern of yours.
Don’t ask questions if you can’t understand the answers.
And don’t ha ha when you were the one expressing concern about Monsanto,
Don’t waste peoples time if your not going to bother looking at the answers.
No wonder Adam12 couldn’t deal with the
Brick wall ostriches mentality.
At least Indo has a bit of an idea , even if he’s polar opposite,
It’s the clueless fence sitters who have no idea.
covid did so much damage to the supposed 'left'
and we see them STILL doubling down on these positions...
defending fauci to the hilt
defending lockdowns
advocating vaccines... and their (false) efficacy... still...
dismissing lab leak
clowns like pete fitzsimmons, jane caro, and even kos samaras still referring to people as 'cookers'
perfectly normal people... with normal jobs and families, who's only crime is to dare sway from the fake left's broken narrative - on issues not even related to covid even!
until the fake left admits some complicity...
some duplicity?
or at a minimum, acknowledges there was so much we got wrong with hindsight...
'the left' will never recover within a generation of memory
I'm not holding my breath...
(reading rogan comments above (and at abc), I have no hope at all)
Yes you have summed me up perfectly , carry on campaigning.
indo-dreaming wrote:GuySmiley wrote:“ … How about we try something different and take it down a notch …”
Bahahaha you love being the #forummonitor be it self appointed and all, thanks for the laugh @info
Ok @adam12, yeah it really is a sweet sounding engine along with the Spitfire & Harley and that Merc wagon this morning was stunning, original metallic green, beautiful …. that surf you had wasn’t opposite phipps’ old shop was it?
It's more like, okay dude whatever i get it you hate Rogan, Musk, Trump.
Time to try to just leave him to it.
Try at least.
I don’t hate anyone @info, not the 3 bromance-amigos you mention nor world tyrants like Bibi, Putin or Hamas leaders …. nor do I hate Murdoch or Hancock etc. But, I vehemently disagree what they represent via their actions and words …. Now, the next time you have a brain fart about something ask first and don’t assume…. Thanks
personally, I couldn't be happier about JFKjr being in charge of environmental issues...
with the nuttyness that has developed around the climate change 'debate'
the contradictions, sheer hypocrisy, fruitlessness and uselessness that has developed around such things...
the aggressiveness and obssessiveness, that has put real environmental problems into non existence...
I'll be more than happy to watch JFK have a go
don't really believe in trump's genuineness on either aspect...
but I reckon it's a winner position amongst the public
Supafreak wrote:Yes you have summed me up perfectly , carry on campaigning.
quite right, @jef, I am currently doing an online self-help program for pathologically centrist fence-sitters.. might interest you @Supa.. it is just a typical 10 step program, but you can work it around your life or wild sleeping patterns.
Every day, choose a handful of aspects about a particular political argument and try to get:
1. self-righteous
2. indignant
3. curmudgeonly
4. defensive
5. condoscending
6. adusive
7. dismissive
8. abrasive
9. incensed
10. rankled
not sure it would work to well on a surf site, where people are mostly about weather, nature, boards and stuff.. but on political sites it works a treat. best thing i've noticed, is it puts others off more than convinces them, so they are likely to start arguing with you, using the 10 step process, themselves. I think I'm against fence-sitting, but then again, I'm not really sure.
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank