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flollo wrote:I'm glad that Trump is putting fentanyl discussion into the spotlight. He's doing it in this weird way with tariff threats, and I really can't tell if this will be successful or not. But regardless of that, this is a serious issue. I don't know how many people from here visited the US recently and witnessed the fentanyl crisis with their own eyes. Yes, you can watch videos online, but it hits very differently when you see it. I did visit and I did make an effort of walking through some really shit areas. Trust me, it's soul shattering. This drug is something else, it disfigures human body in a terrible way. Humans look like zombies, completely disconnected from the area they are in. Something needs to be done; the current situation is unsustainable.
Funny but not funny is how market demand increases the flow of fentanyl into the US, mainly driven by US importers. Seems the US border entry inspectors are just as useless as the border exit inspectors at the source of shipping. Trump blames Mexico and China for the problem when the demand is internal. Also funny but not funny is that 70%-90% of Mexico’s firearms are smuggled in from the USA, but maga see this as a good thing as it supports the gun manufacturers who donate donate donate to various gun supporting politicians.
flollo, I agree fentanyl is just terrible. I have seen it first hand in the US. Scary and very confronting. It just destroys lives
sypkan wrote:Exxotixjeff wrote:sypkan wrote:you're a twit exoticjeff
totally incapable of discerning causes, effects, symptoms...
and reality...
but keep swinging your schlong
your comedy value is priceless
I’m just bemused that such a star
activist , @ spycams
Would be using Elons X for their information,
I see the cause and effect of Musks X 24/7
tsunami of bullshit
and an election win from MAGAs
delusional cult,
after viewing your inane info post.dude, you are so brain washed as to who the boogeyman are, it's scary...
you bag X like it's elon against the world...
if you haven't noticed... nearly every significant world body is still on there...
you can get information from the globalist ideologues life WEF, world bank, soros Inc... all the way through to the ccp, the socialist alliance, birics, and various other commie groups...
with a bit of white nationalists, and ip obsessed CNNs, trans activists, terfs, lesbos, gay republicans, and eco-terrorists thrown in for good measure...
you're right, it's tidbits
but it also supplies links to real articles - if you can actually read that is...
the free press, and various other pirate like new media sources are the real gold
you ever wondered why people like bari weiss, matt taibbi, michael shellenger, glenn greenwald and others have gone rogue?
and turned their backs on the outlets you so fawningly love?
no you haven't...
but you should
broaden your scope dude
edumacate yourself
I know you're not nearly as dumb as you present yourself to be...
youtube'll do that to ya!
That’s wonderful , except that the information you posted, was a nice short little piece of comprehensionable bullshit .
‘Mexico’s president has ‘excellent’ talk with Trump, dismisses tariff threat’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/11/28/trump-mexico-president-t...
flollo wrote:Trump winning is the best thing that happened to mainstream media, online commentators and poor souls attempting to earn a few bucks with polarising Youtube videos. They now have at least 8 years of unlimited content. 4 with Trump in the office and 4 with post Trump era and his legacy. Everything that will have to be fixed can easily be blamed on Trump and the list will be endless, true or not true, it will be irrelevant.
Just look at the engagement levels on content with anything that mentions Trump. This is staggering and he is not even in the office yet. Which other politician comes even close to this? Julian's devotion is incredible, 24/7, and he is the one that hates him! Not even the most religious are this devoted to their religion. Facinating stuff.
Wrong loflo info guy
You think everyone else is a Trump humper
like you.
It’s about your mates dumb voters regret
Which is emerging very fast, now they’ve
realised what tarrifs will actually do to their prices (rise them)
Which they have been able to work out ,
but you couldn’t .
And Farmers organisations in red states ,who voted for Trump,
Asking please for an exemption, so their
immigrant workers don’t get deported ,
because it would mean the end of their industry,
It’s not about Trump bashing,
It’s about your low levels of comprehension
Which you try to overcome with insults.
Trump fever
Exxotixjeff wrote:flollo wrote:Trump winning is the best thing that happened to mainstream media, online commentators and poor souls attempting to earn a few bucks with polarising Youtube videos. They now have at least 8 years of unlimited content. 4 with Trump in the office and 4 with post Trump era and his legacy. Everything that will have to be fixed can easily be blamed on Trump and the list will be endless, true or not true, it will be irrelevant.
Just look at the engagement levels on content with anything that mentions Trump. This is staggering and he is not even in the office yet. Which other politician comes even close to this? Julian's devotion is incredible, 24/7, and he is the one that hates him! Not even the most religious are this devoted to their religion. Facinating stuff.
Wrong loflo info guy
You think everyone else is a Trump humper
like you.
It’s about your mates dumb voters regret
Which is emerging very fast, now they’ve
realised what tarrifs will actually do to their prices (rise them)
Which they have been able to work out ,
but you couldn’t .
And Farmers organisations in red states ,who voted for Trump,
Asking please for an exemption, so their
immigrant workers don’t get deported ,
because it would mean the end of their industry,
It’s not about Trump bashing,
It’s about your low levels of comprehension
Which you try to overcome with insults.
Hahaha
@flollo,
I agree it was heartening to hear an American President specifically refer to fentanyl, even if it was Trump, and to identify the precursor supplier (China) as well as the Mexicans.
How tariffs on goods will counter it however remains to be seen.
The danger for us here is that the Narco Cartels see us as a massive cash cow now, they get the best return from coke here than anywhere in the world, and my fear would be that the supply would just get diverted here instead.
We've only had a small number of those deaths where a group of people are all found dead from it being laced into what they thought was coke, why a dealer would cut coke with fentanyl is beyond me, but there have been a plague of such incidents in the US, never mind the impact it has had on junkies, and American cities. Devastating.
The cartels are using customised narco subs to ship coke here by the tonnage now, the Colombian authorities just seized some of them this week. A ton of fentanyl would be enough to kill our whole population probably.
It took a long time for meth to become a thing here, I remember reading about the problems it caused in the US, in Hawaii and SE Asia a decade or more before it became a problem here, it wasn't a thing here then suddenly it was, devastating drug and drug habit, and I fear the same may end up happening with fentanyl here.
Mind you a month or so ago I got sent down to Victoria St. in Richmond, Melb., a well known heroin hot spot, by my brother to buy a carton of black market cigarettes for him ($10 a pack with a free lighter, great policy that one, cigarettes haven't been so cheap since the 80's) and parts of the street resembled the streets of Philadelphia (my favorite Springsteen song btw). Junkies buckled over and street mayhem. with the new gen. Richmond gentrified yuppies lining up for their Sunday brunches at the Viet, pho/coffee shops looking on horrified.
We are ripe for that devastating drug here.
So kudos to Trump for trying to do something about it.
I would prefer the US just went "fuck it" and sent in the marines and USAF to eliminate all the cartels the Mexicans seem unable or unwilling to, and do it again when the snakes grow more heads, that's a "war on drugs" in my book. Don't fuck around with tariffs or diplomacy, bullets and bombs and let the Mexican politicians shriek all they want, it's a real and present danger killing Americans in large numbers.
I would make a shit politician or diplomat obviously. But Mexico is basically a narco state, a great country, great people, great waves, great culture, great food but a blight because they haven't been able to stop the cartels, or the fentanyl.
Colombia has at least made progress in that regard, although it still produces the bulk of the world's cocaine.
As for China, fentanyl needs to be put front and center to them too. At least Trump is saying these things to them too. How successful he is we will see.
And I wonder whether we stockpile the coke here or whether even that commodity is on a "just in time" supply chain too. I bet it's probably an exception to that rule.
Give it a rest Sexxy one!
What about that dad joke?
What's E.T. short for?
Because he's only got little legs!
Did anyone on this thread vote for trump ? Asking for a friend .
Supafreak wrote:Did anyone on this thread vote for trump ? Asking for a friend .
I sent 0.1% Bitcoin to some guy in Pennsylvania who voted Trump for me under his deceased fathers name Juliang gila.
Supafreak wrote:https://www.instagram.com/reel/DC8IcDHxSpT/?igsh=dWwwajhzbjh6d3Q1
Fk they are everywhere together, this bromance could be over before Trumps even sworn in.
If orange man doesn’t hit us with tariffs could our exporting producers be in for a boom?
Supafreak wrote:Did anyone on this thread vote for trump ? Asking for a friend .
Yuh
ie will our minerals, produce and anything else the yanks import from us become cheaper than the countries with imposed tariffs. If these tariffs are as high as Trump has stated.
green room wrote:Supafreak wrote:Did anyone on this thread vote for trump ? Asking for a friend .
Yuh
I thought you might blowin
Exxotixjeff wrote:flollo wrote:Trump winning is the best thing that happened to mainstream media, online commentators and poor souls attempting to earn a few bucks with polarising Youtube videos. They now have at least 8 years of unlimited content. 4 with Trump in the office and 4 with post Trump era and his legacy. Everything that will have to be fixed can easily be blamed on Trump and the list will be endless, true or not true, it will be irrelevant.
Just look at the engagement levels on content with anything that mentions Trump. This is staggering and he is not even in the office yet. Which other politician comes even close to this? Julian's devotion is incredible, 24/7, and he is the one that hates him! Not even the most religious are this devoted to their religion. Facinating stuff.
Wrong loflo info guy
You think everyone else is a Trump humper
like you.
It’s about your mates dumb voters regret
Which is emerging very fast, now they’ve
realised what tarrifs will actually do to their prices (rise them)
Which they have been able to work out ,
but you couldn’t .
And Farmers organisations in red states ,who voted for Trump,
Asking please for an exemption, so their
immigrant workers don’t get deported ,
because it would mean the end of their industry,
It’s not about Trump bashing,
It’s about your low levels of comprehension
Which you try to overcome with insults.
Sounds like you need a holiday juliang , have you considered staying at the Y. ?
Roadkill wrote:flollo, I agree fentanyl is just terrible. I have seen it first hand in the US. Scary and very confronting. It just destroys lives
Fentanyl is so scary, the tiniest amount being able to kill is such a worry.
My apprentice and his mates are out hitting the bag every weekend, cant say I don't get concerned for him..
^^ very sad and worrying on many levels @GF
Joe Rogan on one of his podcasts this week.
Rogan. Yeah, fucking Obama lies…I just found out he lied about blah blah.
Someone else. You don’t like him?
Rogan. No, he lies.
Someone else. What about Trump.
Rogan, yeah, he is the man. I love him.
On a completely different subject.
The CEO of the company that makes the fake food Twinkies has said he may reduce sugars and some additives in their products.
Trump and RFK may just scare them into making positive changes.
GuySmiley wrote:^^ how could any sane, rational, intelligent, balanced, logical thinking person ever contemplate buying a Tesla?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/29/tesla-owners-elon-musk
^^ it seems buyers remorse is big and getting bigger by the day
sypkan wrote:and further to the inflation point
inflation may subside...
but your average joe is waiting for prices to drop... pining for it...
that's not how it works... inflation may subside... but prices will never return to times of yore...
in fact, the best case we get is, alresdy inflated prices, return the desired price increase of 2-3%
so lock yourselves in!
I said before albo got in, he was inheriting a poison chalice...
he did... but geez, he's fucked it more and more, every time at every turn and opportunity...
the dudes living in a fantasy land
Give him time mate, its hard to learn how to run a pub chook raffle.he can take on the economy if he gets to accomplish that(I doubt it!).
Roadkill wrote:Joe Rogan on one of his podcasts this week.
Rogan. Yeah, fucking Obama lies…I just found out he lied about blah blah.
Someone else. You don’t like him?
Rogan. No, he lies.
Someone else. What about Trump.
Rogan, yeah, he is the man. I love him.On a completely different subject.
The CEO of the company that makes the fake food Twinkies has said he may reduce sugars and some additives in their products.
Trump and RFK may just scare them into making positive changes.
I find it really interesting to have watched Rogan change his political mindset go from being pro Democrat voter had Bernie Sanders on the show supported Obama, went through a phase of just hating both Trump and Hillary then Biden, and now supporting Trump.
Changing your mind though is important, being aware that political parties have also changed greatly over time is important, instead of just voting based on a name.
Here is what he said, was a bit more to the conversation than that.
GuySmiley wrote:GuySmiley wrote:^^ how could any sane, rational, intelligent, balanced, logical thinking person ever contemplate buying a Tesla?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/29/tesla-owners-elon-musk
^^ it seems buyers remorse is big and getting bigger by the day
It’s good to change your mind, usually. You do it…I do it.
Except Rogan has been suckered into Trump world views.
Still no word of a reply from Rogan to Klitschko comments…he has replied to the weak pathetic woman on The View..but silent on Klitschko. Pretty funny.
Roadkill wrote:It’s good to change your mind, usually. You do it…I do it.
Except Rogan has been suckered into Trump world views.
Still no word of a reply from Rogan to Klitschko comments…he has replied to the weak pathetic woman on The View..but silent on Klitschko. Pretty funny.
"Except Rogan has been suckered into Trump world views.It's really just opinion."
Thats just your opinion.
About Klitschk yeah really surprised there hasn't been any talk of this, im sure it he will talk about it at some stage.
BTW. For those that dont know or forgotten Swellnet has posted two Joe Rogan episodes here on the main page
Shane Dorian
https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-dispatch/2018/11/07/watch-shane-d...
Kelly Slater
https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-dispatch/2018/10/24/watch-kelly-s...
“…. Still no word of a reply from Rogan to Klitschko … “
Pathetic, people like Rogan all pretend to defend free speech yet run away from any facts based criticism. Truth and facts aren’t important its opinion based BS … well you can’t let the truth get in the way of a good story now can you?
I think for a lot of people Covid really changed peoples political and social perspectives, so much trust was lost, so much lies were exposed, media etc came after Rogan for having people on with different views on the vaccine's (some very qualified) or the source of covid* or his views on ivermectin.
* Remember when the lab leak theory was seen as fringe even a conspiracy theory.
When Rogan took ivermectin(only one part of his treatment's) it was reported by much of the media as a drug for horses, even though it was/is a drug widely used for humans.
It wasn't so much framed here in Australia as a left vs right thing (thank you Byron Bay anti vaxer capital of Australia ) but in the USA it really was.
As a conservative that had no issue with the vaccine it was really interesting to watch it all, even here those on the left like Supa was obsessed with ivermectin, Southern raw passionate against the vax even attending rallies, others with no real political home like Bureligh against the whole thing.
After it was all over here in Australia where it was less right vs left everyone fell back into their political homes, but in the USA i think it changed things more, people didn't forget how they were treated or demonised for their views and many political realignments happened, i think for Rogan this was a big factor in where he sits now.
GuySmiley wrote:“…. Still no word of a reply from Rogan to Klitschko … “
Pathetic, people like Rogan all pretend to defend free speech yet run away from any facts based criticism. Truth and facts aren’t important its opinion based BS … well you can’t let the truth get in the way of a good story now can you?
While Im surprised it hasn't been talked about in a Rogan episode yet and i still think he will at some stage, he also has the complete right to not make a public comment on it, or anything else.
Free speech is just as much about having the right not to say something, than it is to say something.
^^ blah blah blah, that's a mighty fine opinion piece there @info, but the reason Klitschko wants to appear on Rogan is because he has been talking about the Russia-Ukraine war on his program and Klitschko believes, rightly or wrongly, that Rogan is repeating Russian propaganda. Klitschko wants to appear on the show as a "right of reply" if you like which is a fundamental tenet of the right (and responsibilities) of/for free speech. Sure he can refuse or delay the request but the longer it goes on the longer it looks like Rogan isn't what he proclaims to be!
https://news.sky.com/video/wladimir-klitschko-accuses-joe-rogan-of-sprea...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephenpastis/2024/11/25/ukrainian-boxing-i...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/25/wladimir-klitschko-joe-r...
GuySmiley wrote:^^ blah blah blah, that's a mighty fine opinion piece there @info, but the reason Klitschko wants to appear on Rogan is because he has been talking about the Russia-Ukraine war on his program and Klitschko believes, rightly or wrongly, that Rogan is repeating Russian propaganda. Klitschko wants to appear on the show as a "right of reply" if you like which is a fundamental tenet of the right (and responsibilities) of/for free speech. Sure he can refuse or delay the request but the longer it goes on the longer it looks like Rogan isn't what he proclaims to be!
https://news.sky.com/video/wladimir-klitschko-accuses-joe-rogan-of-sprea...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephenpastis/2024/11/25/ukrainian-boxing-i...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/25/wladimir-klitschko-joe-r...
Dude it's been about five days, but you have already come to some big judgement on if Rogan will have him on his show or not, at least give it some time a few weeks at least maybe longer, firstly who knows if he wants him on the show or not, or if any talks have happened behind the scenes, or what the back log is on guest lined up etc
Even then lets say there has been talks, they might not have come to an agreement Klitschko might want some type of conditions,
For example we didn't hear much about Harris possibly being on the show until some time after negotiation's, then we then found out that she would be on the show, but it came with all these conditions from her, not in Texas at Rogans studio but elsewhere, not the normal few hours length only 1 hr and then there was things or question's not allowed to be talked about, so it was a nah sorry but we dont do that from Rogan, no special treatment than others.
BTW. All that said any media outlet has the choice to have who they want on their show or not, if he doesn't want him on the show, or doesn't think there is value in having him on the show, thats still fine but would be surprising, but the point is no media outlet including Rogan podcast has some duty to give anyone a slot on their show, just because they think they have some right of reply, the comments weren't aimed at him but clearly has had his say in media on what he thinks anyway.
BTW. there has been Rumours Zelensky wants to go on the show too, i doubt that will happen though, do you then have to give Putin an offer to be on the show, then Bibi, then Hamas or the leader of Iran
@GS
" Sure he can refuse or delay the request but the longer it goes on the longer it looks like Rogan isn't what he proclaims to be!"
"how tall is joe rogan
8 posts
15 web pages
Joe Rogan has publicly stated that he is 5 feet 8 inches tall. However, various sources and fan discussions suggest he might be slightly shorter, with estimations around 5 feet 7 inches or even 5 feet 6 inches based on photographic evidence and comparisons with others of known heights:
Rogan himself clarified on Twitter in 2015 that he is "5' 8"" but acknowledged the humor around his height, saying, "I'm short, but not that short."
UFC lists him at 5 feet 6 inches due to how he appears in photos with other individuals.
Many fan discussions and comparisons with known heights of other celebrities or athletes place him around 5'7" or closer to 5'6".
There have been humorous claims and memes suggesting he's even shorter, like the skywriting event in 2021 claiming he's 5'3", but these are not taken seriously.
Given these varied perspectives, while Rogan claims 5'8", a more commonly accepted estimation from visual comparisons and analyses would put his height between 5'6" and 5'7"."
- pootin is 5’7”
… babushka bromancers ;)
https://m.
indo-dreaming wrote:GuySmiley wrote:^^ blah blah blah, that's a mighty fine opinion piece there @info, but the reason Klitschko wants to appear on Rogan is because he has been talking about the Russia-Ukraine war on his program and Klitschko believes, rightly or wrongly, that Rogan is repeating Russian propaganda. Klitschko wants to appear on the show as a "right of reply" if you like which is a fundamental tenet of the right (and responsibilities) of/for free speech. Sure he can refuse or delay the request but the longer it goes on the longer it looks like Rogan isn't what he proclaims to be!
https://news.sky.com/video/wladimir-klitschko-accuses-joe-rogan-of-sprea...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephenpastis/2024/11/25/ukrainian-boxing-i...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/25/wladimir-klitschko-joe-r...
Dude it's been about five days, but you have already come to some big judgement on if Rogan will have him on his show or not, at least give it some time a few weeks at least maybe longer, firstly who knows if he wants him on the show or not, or if any talks have happened behind the scenes, or what the back log is on guest lined up etc
Even then lets say there has been talks, they might not have come to an agreement Klitschko might want some type of conditions,
For example we didn't hear much about Harris possibly being on the show until some time after negotiation's, then we then found out that she would be on the show, but it came with all these conditions from her, not in Texas at Rogans studio but elsewhere, not the normal few hours length only 1 hr and then there was things or question's not allowed to be talked about, so it was a nah sorry but we dont do that from Rogan, no special treatment than others.
BTW. All that said any media outlet has the choice to have who they want on their show or not, if he doesn't want him on the show, or doesn't think there is value in having him on the show, thats still fine but would be surprising, but the point is no media outlet including Rogan podcast has some duty to give anyone a slot on their show, just because they think they have some right of reply, the comments weren't aimed at him but clearly has had his say in media on what he thinks anyway.
BTW. there has been Rumours Zelensky wants to go on the show too, i doubt that will happen though, do you then have to give Putin an offer to be on the show, then Bibi, then Hamas or the leader of Iran
Yet it was about 24 hours and he pulled the old 80 years + Joy Behar when she said he believes in Dragons.
Klitschko said he would come to Rogan with zero rules from his end…would just come to Rogan and lay out his case.
@Indo "BTW. there has been Rumours Zelensky wants to go on the show too, i doubt that will happen though, do you then have to give Putin an offer to be on the show, then Bibi, then Hamas or the leader of Iran"
Don't bother with the "rumours" go straight to the horses mouth.
https://x.com/P_Kallioniemi/status/1862539430310957558
"Zelensky tried to get on, they tried to get Zelensky on...and I was like what are you talking about....I wanted to stay out of the Presidential election shit".
Seems Lil'Joe the midget wrestler might not only be a pussy, he might also be a bullshitter, he sure stayed "out of the Presidential election shit" didn't he?
https://x.com/LukeVParon/status/1861815609647923642
Trump, Musk, Rogan....some great role models there.
"Cometh the hour, cometh the man"
The future looks in good hands doesn't it?
And the meals at Mar-a-Lago look "succulent", imagine dropping a couple of grand to get served this slop...
https://x.com/WUTangKids/status/1862508957513736270
quadzilla wrote:sypkan wrote:and further to the inflation point
inflation may subside...
but your average joe is waiting for prices to drop... pining for it...
that's not how it works... inflation may subside... but prices will never return to times of yore...
in fact, the best case we get is, alresdy inflated prices, return the desired price increase of 2-3%
so lock yourselves in!
I said before albo got in, he was inheriting a poison chalice...
he did... but geez, he's fucked it more and more, every time at every turn and opportunity...
the dudes living in a fantasy land
Give him time mate, its hard to learn how to run a pub chook raffle.he can take on the economy if he gets to accomplish that(I doubt it!).
yeah but he said this week he has our back now
must be an election coming
will go the way of Biden
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank