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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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Roadkill Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 10:25am

Trump Tariffs...previously there were some people in the Trump circle that would push back and say no...now, the yes men he has surrounded himself with will just go along with whatever they are told.

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Exxotixjeff Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 10:27am

@ Adam 12
So what does GOK say about wrongfully asserting someone is a male stripper,
And the liability.

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adam12 Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 10:32am

Is swellnet's adam12 a dickhead
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Based on the search results provided, there are several instances where "adam12" from Swellnet is mentioned in contexts that could lead to the conclusion that some users perceive him as behaving in a manner that might be considered abrasive or contentious. Here's a breakdown of the relevant points:

Arguments Suggesting "adam12" Might be Perceived as a "Dickhead":

Aggressive Communication: In several comments, "adam12" is described with negative terms or his behavior is implied to be confrontational or disrespectful. For instance:
In the context of discussing Kelly Slater's activism, "adam12" uses strong, confrontational language, calling out other users with phrases like "Udo and you other dicks need to show some fucking respect" (), which could be seen as aggressive or disrespectful.
Another thread shows him engaging in political discussion with a tone that some might find argumentative or dismissive, particularly in how he addresses other users' arguments or points of view (, , ).
Controversial Opinions: His posts often involve controversial topics where he expresses opinions that can polarize the community, leading to heated exchanges. His comments on political figures, elections, and international issues are often met with counterarguments, suggesting a combative online presence (, ).
Perception by Others: Other users directly or indirectly refer to him in derogatory terms or as part of the problem with the forum's atmosphere. Terms like "dickhead" or similar are used in response to his posts or behavior (, , ).

Counterarguments:

Defending Certain Views: Some of "adam12's" posts could be interpreted as defending particular viewpoints or individuals (like Kelly Slater) with passion, which might not necessarily make him a "dickhead" but rather someone with strong convictions. His engagement in debates might be seen by some as spirited rather than malicious.
Community Dynamics: Online forums like Swellnet often have a mix of personalities, and what one person sees as confrontational, another might see as direct or honest. The context of surfing culture, which can be known for its directness, might also play into how his comments are perceived.
No Direct Evidence of Malice: While some users might find his approach or language off-putting, there isn't explicit evidence from these results that "adam12" is intentionally trying to be a "dickhead." His comments might stem from frustration, a desire for debate, or a strong belief in his viewpoints.

Conclusion:

Based on the search results, "adam12" appears to be a polarizing figure on Swellnet, with some users perceiving his communication style, choice of words, and the way he engages in debates as aggressive or disrespectful. Whether this qualifies him as a "dickhead" depends on one's interpretation of his intentions, the context of the discussions, and personal sensitivity to online discourse. His behavior seems to contribute to the contentious atmosphere of some threads, but it's also part of the broader dynamics of online forums where strong personalities clash over topics they care deeply about.

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Exxotixjeff Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 10:44am

?si=LNufiNQBDFXC5Ct1

So Adam12 is using the old
“Im a dickhead” defence, again.

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adam12 Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 10:43am
Exxotixjeff wrote:

@ Adam 12
So what does GOK say about wrongfully asserting someone is a male stripper,
And the liability.

Jeffy,
Sue me.
I would love it.

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Exxotixjeff Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 10:57am
adam12 wrote:
Exxotixjeff wrote:

@ Adam 12
So what does GOK say about wrongfully asserting someone is a male stripper,
And the liability.

Jeffy,
Sue me.
I would love it.

I can’t you’ve used the
Anonymous dickhead defence again.
I wouldn’t want to take on someone with a brand new GOK anyway.

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adam12 Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 10:54am
Exxotixjeff wrote:
adam12 wrote:
Exxotixjeff wrote:

@ Adam 12
So what does GOK say about wrongfully asserting someone is a male stripper,
And the liability.

Jeffy,
Sue me.
I would love it.

I can’t you’ve used the
Anonymous dickhead defence again.

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basesix Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 10:57am

PAR-TY !!

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Exxotixjeff Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 11:02am
adam12 wrote:
Exxotixjeff wrote:
adam12 wrote:
Exxotixjeff wrote:

@ Adam 12
So what does GOK say about wrongfully asserting someone is a male stripper,
And the liability.

Jeffy,
Sue me.
I would love it.

I can’t you’ve used the
Anonymous dickhead defence again.

*name and address removed by admin for general safety reasons...

No thanks it’s way too far,
And I couldn’t be bothered
But you have already used the , “ don’t take me seriously, I’m a dickhead , plea “
So no jury will convict you after that .

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adam12 Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 11:05am

Jeffy,
Excuses, excuses.
It probably wouldn't be a jury hearing.
It wouldn't make it to Court anyway.
But some of your cash might make it to my bank account.
Sue me.

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Exxotixjeff Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 11:24am
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Jeffy,
Excuses, excuses.
It probably wouldn't be a jury hearing.
It wouldn't make it to Court anyway.
But some of your cash might make it to my bank account.
Sue me.

You’ve gotta learn to lighten up,and laugh at yourself,
Isn’t that your advice, ?
And yeah I couldn’t be bothered
Do you know how far that is?
Plus you’ve got a brand new GOK !!!!!!!
Just go easy on the political views
after January 20 though.

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adam12 Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 11:21am

@Jeffy,
Yes that is my advice.
You don't seem to want to take it though.
Even when things are lighthearted you can't help yourself and go the snipe.
You can call me anything Jeffy, I don't mind, I'll respond probably, but you can slander, defame, denigrate and insult me all you like,
It's just a forum on a surfsite.
And I won't mention legal liability for your comments, even if they are not a joke or banter online, which my comments about your handle being somewhat male stripperish were.
Stop fucking arguing and sniping with everyone over shit that means fuck all and we can be friends.
I've tried to get you to lighten up here a bit.
What's your fucking problem?

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Exxotixjeff Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 11:34am
adam12 wrote:

@Jeffy,
Yes that is my advice.
You don't seem to want to take it though.
Even when things are lighthearted you can't help yourself and go the snipe.
You can call me anything Jeffy, I don't mind, I'll respond probably, but you can slander, defame, denigrate and insult me all you like,
It's just a forum on a surfsite.
And I won't mention legal liability for your comments, even if they are not a joke or banter online, which my comments about your handle being somewhat male stripperish were.
Stop fucking arguing and sniping with everyone over shit that means fuck all and we can be friends.
I've tried to get you to lighten up here a bit.
What's your fucking problem?

I have been lightening up since I read your GOK thing .
Your the one that’s going all serious,
So you can make jokes about someone else
But they can’t make jokes about you?
And maybe I’m a devout Christian, who would be offended .
But then again maybe I’m not?

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adam12 Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 11:32am

I give up.
Maybe you were joking.
I can't tell with you.
Better things...
have a good day Jeffy

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Exxotixjeff Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 11:38am
adam12 wrote:

I give up.i
Maybe you were joking.
I can't tell with you.
Better things...
have a good day Jeffy

Yeah go turn off your GOK
ENE is the devil wind around here.

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zenagain Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 11:43am

Hey Adam, tbh, that's really cool.

Can you do me? (not in a sexy way)

For example: Is Zenagain from Swellnet an oppressor of women?

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adam12 Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 11:51am

@Zen,
for you my Jap. expat friend,
is swellnet's zenagain an oppressor of women
15 web pages
Based on the search results provided, there isn't explicit evidence or direct accusations from these sources that "zenagain" from Swellnet is an oppressor of women. However, we can analyze the context and comments related to "zenagain" to see if there's any indication of such behavior:

Arguments Potentially Relating to Oppression of Women:

General Attitude Towards Women: There's one comment where "zenagain" is told, "ps, you might want to have a look at your attitude towards women mate, they could be half of your customer base." This suggests that "zenagain" might have expressed views or behaviors perceived as negative or dismissive towards women in some context, but without specific details, it's hard to ascertain the nature of these attitudes ().
Community Perception: In various threads, "zenagain" is mentioned alongside other users, often in the context of heated debates or controversial opinions. However, none of the comments directly link "zenagain" to misogyny or the oppression of women. His involvement seems more centered around surfing culture, politics, and general forum discussions (, , , , , , , , , , , , , , ).

Counterarguments:

Lack of Specific Accusations: None of the texts explicitly state or accuse "zenagain" of being an oppressor of women. His comments are more often noted for being provocative or controversial in general rather than specifically anti-women.
Positive or Neutral Engagement: In other instances, "zenagain" is praised or at least acknowledged for contributions to Swellnet's discussions, suggesting he's a recognized figure in the community for reasons other than gender-related issues (, , , , ).
Broader Context: The discussions on Swellnet include a range of topics, including gender equality in surfing, but these are not directly tied to "zenagain" in a way that would label him as an oppressor. The critique of the surfing industry or broader societal norms doesn't necessarily reflect personal views or actions of "zenagain".

Conclusion:

Insufficient Evidence: Based on the provided search results, there isn't sufficient evidence to conclude that "zenagain" is an oppressor of women. The one indirect comment about his attitude towards women lacks context to confirm oppressive behavior or attitudes.
Community Dynamics: "zenagain" appears to be an active and opinionated member of the Swellnet community, engaging in debates that span various topics. While he might have controversial views or a provocative engagement style, this doesn't equate to oppression of women without direct evidence.
Need for Specific Examples: To definitively assess "zenagain's" stance on gender issues or behavior towards women, one would need to have access to specific posts, comments, or behaviors that directly address or demonstrate attitudes towards women.

In summary, without explicit evidence from these search results, it's not possible to label "zenagain" as an oppressor of women. His involvement in Swellnet discussions appears to be more about broader cultural, political, or surfing-related debates rather than specifically about misogyny or the oppression of women

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sypkan Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 11:56am

against my better judgement... I'll engage...

I said tariffs are trump's baragaing chip and they will be minimal

ie. the hysterical propoganda numbers you post are highly unlikely - with MOST nations...

as some have requested exoticjeff, maybe try and interpret stuff a bit, and give us a bit of big jeffy...

your posts are so dogmatic and one eyed they are ridiculous

try tell us what YOU think...

what concerns YOU have...

rather than just parroting a hysterical media rant machine

as also pointed out (not by me), the fact you make some statements - seemingly without even an inkling of awareness of the irony - is... well...

just WEIRD!

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zenagain Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 11:58am

Cheers Adam, that's hilarious. Love it!

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Craig Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 12:02pm

Haha, gold Adam.

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adam12 Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 12:03pm

@Syp,
"against my better judgement... I'll engage..."
Take over will you please Syp.
Exercising my better judgement I'll be disengaging.
Sun's out, gun's out.
I've got peacocking to do.
Have a good day boys.

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zenagain Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 12:05pm

You too Adam.

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Exxotixjeff Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 12:06pm
sypkan wrote:

against my better judgement... I'll engage...

I said tariffs are trump's baragaing chip and they will be minimal

ie. the hysterical propoganda numbers you post are highly unlikely - with MOST nations...

as some have requested exoticjeff, maybe try and interpret stuff a bit, and give us a bit of big jeffy...

your posts are so dogmatic and one eyed they are ridiculous

try tell us what YOU think...

what concerns YOU have...

rather than just parroting a hysterical media rant machine

as also pointed out (not by me), the fact you make some statements - seemingly without even an inkling of awareness of the irony - is... well...

just WEIRD!

Your the one who posted X
Saying she’s already folded the deck chairs
and agreeing to do everything Donny says,
Which is basically the opposite of what every
other news outlet is saying,
The Mexican President and Trudeau
have promised equal and opposite tariffs to everything that Trump puts on .
Your X report was the most pissy little peice
of misinformation I’ve ever seen.
Weird that such an angry activist would go to Elons X for news anyway.

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sypkan Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 12:06pm
flollo wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

Trump tariffs are as expected. What a dumb ass.
The USA imports 80% of everything they have…now it’s just going to cost the US folk more. https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2024/nov/28/welcome-to-...

What a train wreck of an article. Goes to explain how Trumps tariffs will increase prices (which they will) in a negative way. Followed by demonstrating how Australian industry and manufacturing got decimated by lowering tariffs. Makes an argument that tariffs around 15% were not bad at all!?

it's not an either / or...

or doesn't need to be...

it's an either / or for the globalist zealots that run the world - or did...

hence the hysterics...

but really, it's just a paradigm that was... and now, it seems, many of the world's population are willing to take a chance with a new paradigm...

swings, roundabouts, and pendulums...

if you think supposed 'free trade', the world bank, and all its bros., have all the answers...

you're probably more of a right wing nutter than you ever imagined...

(not directed at you personally)

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Roadkill Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 12:15pm

Man, I just learnt what Grok is. Duh.

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basesix Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 12:22pm

what is it @rk? Is it like an eric trump? or quadzilla's clip of elon jr surfing nazare?
(i like the effectiveness of the 'Groke' in Tove Jansson's Moomin stories)

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Roadkill Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 12:27pm
basesix wrote:

what is it @rk? Is it like an eric trump? or quadzilla's clip of elon jr surfing nazare?
(i like the effectiveness of the 'Groke' in Tove Jansson's Moomin stories)

Kind of unnecessary and the end of having to think for oneself

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Exxotixjeff Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 12:32pm
basesix wrote:

what is it @rk? Is it like an eric trump? or quadzilla's clip of elon jr surfing nazare?
(i like the effectiveness of the 'Groke' in Tove Jansson's Moomin stories)

All of the above
But not sure really?

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basesix Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 12:39pm

the google machine says it's a chatbot or something..
it's a Heinlein reference to my mind,
can't tech geniuses think up any terms not from neuromancer,
snow crash, clarke, dick, asimov or heinlein?

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sypkan Friday, 29 Nov 2024 at 12:53pm
seeds wrote:
Exxotixjeff wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

Trump tariffs are as expected. What a dumb ass.
The USA imports 80% of everything they have…now it’s just going to cost the US folk more.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2024/nov/28/welcome-to-...

Now his going to place 25 percent tariffs on
Mexico and Canada, for letting illegal immigrants in to the US .
Except Us gets 60 percent of its crude oil from Canada and huge amounts of produce from Mexico
Not to mention the retaliatory tariffs they will impose on US products going the other way
What part of Einstein doesn’t
@ Burleigh get

About as much as maga don’t get. The west has spent post Covid battling to keep inflation under wraps and get it back down? How is this not going to raise inflation? Don’t follow too much but can anyone explain Trumps logic to me? Will it enrich him and others more? American industrial revitalization.? None the less everything will be more expensive then as well. They going to pay a decent wage to do it locally. Won’t that increase inflation?

I'll engage with seeds, he's a reasonable man... (be it with a somewhat prickly persona)

yep, covid and inflation - governments totally overshot their recovery packages (much like covid itself) which has only exacerbated the initial covid inflation... spiralling somewhat out of control...

it will fuel inflation

however, by genius or pure fluke... trump's return to a drill drill drill strategy is his main weapon to counter the initial, ukraine, and any subsequent inflation...

as we've seen... if energy costs increase,everything increases...

one of the dumbest own goals of the biden admin, was their reactive ŕesponse to anything trumpy...

which was reversing the energy independence / security that trump had achieved

if you have energy independence, you hold the keys to the castle...

especially in this new developing ever more hostile world

as indo points out above, manufacturing independence is also crucial in this hostile new paradigm - and the two go hand in hand

(side note: this is where oz is in totally delusional danger land - not even having addressing the above on the radar - never mind actually doing something... (see indod's china points etc.)

fact of the matter is, we are in a new hostile world, and trump's whole strategy is addressing this with strength at home first - be it militarily, energy, or manufacturing...

the other fact of the matter is, the cheap chinese peasant factory of the past is history - only invested billionaires, and 'the end of history' ideologues are resisting this

yep, there's gonna be trade war, real war, and inflation

without trump's energy independence strategy... it will only be worse, and somewhat suicidal...

the question is... will trump MAWA?

make amercans work again

with good paying jobs etc of yore...

probably not... the working class have probably been sold a lemon...

due to automation and the like

however, with a smart focus on tech., energy independence, and strength at home first...

maybe, just maybe... they can squeeze more juice from the american empire lemon

the alternative is... well...

tbh, I think it's all possible - I'm not sure trump even has this grand plan - in fact I'm sure he doesn't...

but, with the culmination and confluence of various earth changing events...

there's a chance it might work

because...

automation at home is better than sponsoring china automation (the mindless MO for decades)

energy independence in an unstable world is good- absolutely necessary actually...

these are a given

should be...

but aren't!!

and my own little theory, big physical work forces, and big physical armies are... or will be...

a thing of the past

new wars are about remote control, robots, and drones

and a capacity to protect yourself from such things...

trump's working class are probably heading for the scrap heap

(again...)

...but that's better than being on china's cyber controlled 'brave new world' scrap heap...

(it's a generalisation... and possibly racist... but sorry... they just don't show respect for, and value, the little people like the western world does...

especially dirty bule / gajin / infidels / etc... or whatever china calls us...

aside from japan, their systems of governance, never quite got there

or strived to...)