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GuySmiley wrote:^^ “.. Do you think he will strike the UK?..”
No and why?
He would be guarantee a full Nato and US response
He won’t strike anyone other than Ukraine. Trump will sort this out with rocket man.
Do you think bullies pick on guys bigger than them? Putin needs the war to stay in power just like the other alleged ICC war criminal who is the current Israeli PM - they both need their wars to continue to retain their power!!
andy-mac wrote:GuySmiley wrote:^^ “.. Do you think he will strike the UK?..”
No and why?
He would be guarantee a full Nato and US responseMaybe not the UK, but NATO bases in Europe with US and other servicemen, but who know what could happen further with escalation.
Really the USA and NATO have to stop this war mongering BS.
Below video I posted Glenn Greenwald points out the Western confused propaganda being one that Putin is weak and is bluffing, but then again, he is power hungry and crazy and want to expand into Europe, either way ya should not be stuffing around with nuclear Armageddon.
He seems to be the most rational leader involved ATM, and many do not believe he is bluffing.
Clearly Putin has the whole NATO against him. But he also has allies. North Korea is more than eager to get involved and what if China gets involved? Iran as well shouldn’t be ruled out. And an old debtor - Syria?
He'll strike back but asymmetrically. Stuff like undersea cables.
Recently there was a big fire at the upper levels of the UK's nuclear submarine construction plant in Barrow - don't know if that's related, but probably time to put a watch around many industries and facilities.
GuySmiley wrote:Do you think bullies pick on guys bigger than them? Putin needs the war to stay in power just like the other alleged ICC war criminal who is the current Israeli PM - they both need their wars to continue to retain their power!!
Disagree, same people supporting Zelensky and the very same enabling genocide in Palestine.
For all Russia's faults this war could have been avoided if NATO/ USA did not break their end of cold war agreement not to expand east.
Meddling in 2014 and then ok Boris flying to Ukraine to scuttle peace agreement just before invasion.
That this is happening with a dead duck dementia riddled president make it all the worse.
Who is exactly making these decisions?
Like him or hate him, Trump campaigned to end this war and he won the election, Biden administration should not have escalated like this, especially when they had ruled out the very same thing only a month or so ago.
Never any valid reason for land mines, disgraceful they are being supplied.
indo-dreaming wrote:Supafreak wrote:First one down , dare say , won’t be the last . https://www.axios.com/2024/11/21/matt-gaetz-ag-trump-withdraws
Interesting i heard political commentators say this might happen, historically they withdraw themselves rather than getting rejected by the senate vote.
For all we know Trump might have expected him not to get through, but just a way of showing support or shaking things up or even testing loyalty in the senate.
Either way it's not a pick i care about, so no loss.
I think Gaetz withdrew himself, because
he knew if he didn’t ,the leaked ethics report,
would be made public and humiliate everyone.
Now he can fade away and the ethics report
will be forgotten.
andy-mac wrote:GuySmiley wrote:Do you think bullies pick on guys bigger than them? Putin needs the war to stay in power just like the other alleged ICC war criminal who is the current Israeli PM - they both need their wars to continue to retain their power!!
Never any valid reason for land mines, disgraceful they are being supplied.
Absolutely. Land mine decision is a disgrace. In my 2nd home, Croatia, they still have dangerous areas that haven’t been cleared of mines. You can see the signs as you drive through the countryside. The war finished 30 years ago.
velocityjohnno wrote:He'll strike back but asymmetrically. Stuff like undersea cables.
Recently there was a big fire at the upper levels of the UK's nuclear submarine construction plant in Barrow - don't know if that's related, but probably time to put a watch around many industries and facilities.
I reckon he might encourage Iran/Syria and their other proxies to target US bases in the Middle East. Fuck me, this is really escalating. Putin really wants imperial Russia. Look at Russo-Turkish wars which dragged for centuries. It was all expansionism, one area after the other. It was only stopped with Crimean war when a coalition of countries got involved.
Ironically, that Crimean war in the 1850s also had elements of the ‘Palestinian issue’ mixed into it.
burleigh wrote:GuySmiley wrote:^^ “.. Do you think he will strike the UK?..”
No and why?
He would be guarantee a full Nato and US responseHe won’t strike anyone other than Ukraine. Trump will sort this out with rocket man.
2 months before your hero moves into office , a lot can happen in that time . Trump promised to end the war before inauguration day, he better hurry the fuck up .
Trump and Elon know how to bullshit an
election win , but they have no idea how to run a country or keep their election “promises “,
even if they wanted to,
So both sides keep escalating & escalating until what ? ………….
Supafreak wrote:So both sides keep escalating & escalating until what ? ………….
1. Until one side wins, either by surrendering or being destroyed.
2. A ceasefire basically a pause in the war.
3. Another agreement is made like an armistice or treaty
indo-dreaming wrote:Supafreak wrote:So both sides keep escalating & escalating until what ? ………….
1. Until one side wins, either by surrendering or being destroyed.
2. A ceasefire basically a pause in the war.
3. Another agreement is made like an armistice or treaty
Or the crazy fuckers on both sides use nuclear weapons and take out just about everyone .
Exxotixjeff wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Supafreak wrote:First one down , dare say , won’t be the last . https://www.axios.com/2024/11/21/matt-gaetz-ag-trump-withdraws
Interesting i heard political commentators say this might happen, historically they withdraw themselves rather than getting rejected by the senate vote.
For all we know Trump might have expected him not to get through, but just a way of showing support or shaking things up or even testing loyalty in the senate.
Either way it's not a pick i care about, so no loss.
I think Gaetz withdrew himself, because
he knew if he didn’t ,the leaked ethics report,
would be made public and humiliate everyone.
Now he can fade away and the ethics report
will be forgotten.
“Either way it’s not a pick I care about,”
So you wouldn’t care if a paedophile was running the Department of Justice in the US ,
And you feel entitled to criticise other people’s character.
Supafreak wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Supafreak wrote:So both sides keep escalating & escalating until what ? ………….
1. Until one side wins, either by surrendering or being destroyed.
2. A ceasefire basically a pause in the war.
3. Another agreement is made like an armistice or treaty
Or the crazy fuckers on both sides use nuclear weapons and take out just about everyone .
Even if it went Nuclear it would be Russia sending one over in a ballistic missile and that would be it, war ended.
Unless you think USA would attack Russia with a nuc in reply for Ukraine.
Does anyone really think that's realistic?
Or do you think USA would rather just let Russia take over Ukraine?
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank