Women

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southernraw started the topic in Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 9:42pm

Women.
A word that seems a little out of place on Swellnet.
Discuss if you dare.
Lets invite some women into this conversation.
Ask your female friends to join and contribute.....again...if you dare.
Lets see if the blokes of Swellnet can make space in the shed for some...other humans.
Question> Why are there no females on Swellnet, except for maybe 2 or 3 that have stayed true (respect legends).

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southernraw Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 9:48pm

I'll get the ball rolling.
Maybe female surfers just aren't aware of the forums? (hehe i'm sure that's it).

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seeds Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 9:54pm

No mate. You totally misconstrued Andy M story.

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AndyM Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 10:07pm

I like women.
Women are good and they do good things :)

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southernraw Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 10:09pm

No mate. You did
Andy M wrote 'Went out to the local bowlsie last night and for shits and gigs, a few mates turned up with little American flags, trucker hats and tactical vests.
A fella at a different table had a Make Lennox Great Again hat, which I thought was hilarious.
We were having Iwo Jima moments with the American flag when a young chick at the next table starts mouthing off with calls of "racists" etc etc.'
Straight out provocation in a time of absolute earth shattering sadness for some (women) and you laugh and whinge when you get a response both there and on swellnet....as if THEY'VE wronged you. Fucken piss weak.

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southernraw Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 10:08pm

Would expect nothing less of the 'larrikin Aussie Male' who is also reportedly a huge Rogan fan.

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seeds Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 10:15pm

Who’s a Rogan fan?

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southernraw Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 10:21pm

See @seeds. You endear yourself to me more and more.
Well done!

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AndyM Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 10:28pm

SR you're on crack if you think I'm a Rogan fan.
The way you're making stuff up is a worry.
You on the piss?

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southernraw Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 10:35pm

Could ask you the same @AndyM.
You know what really sucks.
All defence from the Seeds and AndyM show, yet, nothing constructive towards this thread.
Why don't you contribute something positive to this thread ?
Something we can build upon instead of fight against.

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burleigh Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 10:37pm

Women are great. What’s the point of this?

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southernraw Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 10:48pm

Burleigh, i agree women are great.
But there's a question posed in the thread header if you care to answer it?

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seeds Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 10:55pm

I still want to know who’s the Rogan fan.
Indo is but who in this discussion?

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southernraw Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 10:58pm

Or address the question posed in the thread first @seeds?
Eyes on the ball, not the man.

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Jelly Flater Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 11:01pm

Surely this is all one big misunderstanding (& to the question … I respectfully dunno)

- and maybe someone was innocently mistaken for uncle greg
… he loves a good rogan, the pepper at mullum was a bit much tho ;)

https://m.

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southernraw Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 11:02pm

hehehe @JF

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seeds Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 11:06pm

If women want to join the forums I can’t think of anyone here that wouldn’t welcome them and their discussions and views.
Not one!
Now who loves Rogan?

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southernraw Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 11:09pm

That doesn't answer the question though @seeds.
Come on big fella
Have a crack at answering the actual question.
So far nobody has even tried.

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seeds Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 11:17pm

How the fuck would I know.
You’d be scaring them off too because they’re not the helpless little ladies you think they are.
They may even say this misogynistic twat thinks I need his support.
Remember Trump just said he was gunna protect women like no one ever before even if they like it or not.

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southernraw Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 11:23pm

You're 100% correct for the first time tonight @seeds.
Unforunately, i'm a bloke, and i'm currently the only voice for women on Swellnet.
And it disgusts me.
To the core.
I just thought we were more progressive than that in 202fucking4.

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seeds Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 11:30pm

As I said before I think most here would champion it here.
Be mindful even with your good intentions. Valid. Valiant even.( can I post that knights marching from Holy Grail here?) your actually pissing off good decent blokes here and encouraging the shit fights that would turn any woman off having a yarn here.

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southernraw Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 11:31pm

Honestly, i feel i'll be banished from the SN forums due to me standing alongside women. Not from the site owners, but from the 'regulators'. Already copped it from half of the swellnet bro mafia.
Such a simple proposition that rufffles so many feathers.
Until i have support from men, i'm out.
Define man eh. hahaha.
What makes a real man?
HInt. He's not fucken orange!
Anyone that wants to support this conversation and add their insight, happy to jump in and chat, but not to haters that keep fueling the fire to not invite women into the conversation.

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southernraw Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 11:32pm
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As I said before I think most here would champion it here.
Be mindful even with your good intentions. Valid. Valiant even.( can I post that knights marching from Holy Grail here?) your actually pissing off good decent blokes here and encouraging the shit fights that would turn any woman off having a yarn here.

Maybe 'good decent blokes' in your eyes are the ones that need the wake up @seeds.

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seeds Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 11:38pm
southernraw wrote:
seeds wrote:

As I said before I think most here would champion it here.
Be mindful even with your good intentions. Valid. Valiant even.( can I post that knights marching from Holy Grail here?) your actually pissing off good decent blokes here and encouraging the shit fights that would turn any woman off having a yarn here.

Maybe 'good decent blokes' in your eyes are the ones that need the wake up @seeds.

Hate to say it Southern, because I like you, but maybe it’s you that needs to wake up.
Equality meets somewhere in the middle.

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southernraw Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 11:42pm

Question not answered @seeds.
Feel free.
No hate.
But a genuine question that begs to be answered
Goodnight mate.

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southernraw Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 11:44pm

I'll wait for someone to have a stab at answering the question.
I'm genuinely curious to see some answers but so far all i'm getting is extreme avoidance
Strange no?

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southernraw Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 11:46pm

because...you know....if Swellnet is just an Australian bloke..."lucky country" dominated place, then you know.....maybe there's a little disconnect to the current plight of women,,.....despite the pontification amongst the 'pragmatic' gentlemen.
What does swellnet represent on the Australian surfing landscape?
I'll leave it at that.

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seeds Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 11:46pm

seeds wrote:
As I said before I think most here would champion it here.
Be mindful even with your good intentions. Valid. Valiant even.( can I post that knights marching from Holy Grail here?) your actually pissing off good decent blokes here and encouraging the shit fights that would turn any woman off having a yarn here.

That’s my answer.
You don’t like it because it places some blame on you also.

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southernraw Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 11:48pm

OK @seeds.
Well when you feel like addressing the question of WHY, i'll be watching.
So far it's just been smelly flatulence.
A little seedy.

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southernraw Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 11:51pm

Although i must give you an encourgement award for saying that me starting this thread tonight is part of the reason why women over the last 15 to 20 years have wanted nothing to do with Swellnet. You're an astute observer, and i'm glad you caught me in the act!

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southernraw Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 11:54pm

Those who say Swellnet is just a place for blokes and don't want women in their 'lineup' say "i".
Go on.
Lets not beat around the bush.

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seeds Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 11:54pm

Like why this all started tonight you refuse to consider the responses that don’t align with your beliefs, but do, just not to the extreme. You’re being very stubborn.

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southernraw Friday, 8 Nov 2024 at 11:59pm
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Like why this all started tonight you refuse to consider the responses that don’t align with your beliefs, but do, just not to the extreme. You’re being very stubborn.

Geez, seeds, i haven't actually heard a response yet, except for the fact me posting this thread is why women aren't here.
Tell me more about why women aren't a part of the Swellnet surfing community.
And lets not beat around the bush.
Its the most powerful voice in Australian surfing.

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southernraw Saturday, 9 Nov 2024 at 12:01am

@seeds? Why are there barely any women on swellnet???

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southernraw Saturday, 9 Nov 2024 at 12:11am

I'll wait. You've been so vocal so i can't help but expect a great well thought out reply @seeds......

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southernraw Saturday, 9 Nov 2024 at 12:11am
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@seeds? Why are there barely any women on swellnet???

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seeds Saturday, 9 Nov 2024 at 12:13am

I gave you a theory.
Also maybe women just surf and have their own social contact groups.
You go in with your loud speaker with your message of savior and see how much they embrace you. Better wear a cricket box.
It’s all in your own head.

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southernraw Saturday, 9 Nov 2024 at 12:27am

haha.
What a cracker theory @seeds!
Fark me, that's about the loosest thing i've ever read.
Yep! That must be it!
Far out thank goodness you clarified that.
So, err, are social groups ok.... like, knitting, embroidery, baking, knitting and avoiding male surfers because we can't communicate?? The tuck shop? Do girls even surf?? Do they actualy surf with.....shock...horrror....GUYS!!??
Do you see the problem here?
You are the problem.
You and all your Swellnet mates.
Lets hear some fucking positive replies, not some half arsed excuse for why women are inferior to men.
Geez Seeds you've really let this thread down.

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southernraw Saturday, 9 Nov 2024 at 12:32am
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@seeds? Why are there barely any women on swellnet???

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seeds Saturday, 9 Nov 2024 at 12:43am

Don’t be a dickhead.
There a plenty of surfing women groups. Surfing mums etc. Some watch kids while the others catch a few. Then swap. Then they have other social catch ups etc.
They certainly don’t need no saviour helping them. And they don’t need to be part of some surf forum. They’re doing it for themselves.
Your attitude reeks of women are inferior to men. Men need to step up to help blah blah. Women have already done it for themselves.
Stick ya patronising thread up ya backward arse.

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southernraw Saturday, 9 Nov 2024 at 1:27am

Name calling? Nice work. Thumbs up champ.
Simple question. Why are there no women on swellnet.
Sure you're not a Rogan fan?
I'll wait for a more civilised response from a female because that's the point of this thread. You seem to have missed it.
Unfortunately @seeds, you are the furthest thing from a female representative i was hoping for, and a great exemplar of where the actual problem lies.
Sorry to make you an example, but you rushed in and took it upon yourself to put women back in their box.
I'm surprised you keep defending it.
I would have shut the hell up by now and admitted i might have been wrong and that the lineup, swellnet and the world is a place where we can all be one.

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southernraw Saturday, 9 Nov 2024 at 1:29am

@seeds, and swellnet community.
Open question.
Why are there no women on swellnet??
Is this question harder to answer than why Trump won the election?
So much pontification over that.....
Discuss a real issue at home>

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seeds Saturday, 9 Nov 2024 at 1:45am

You’re putting women in a box and someone pointing that out to you is confronting.

See me pontificating or otherwise over the yank election. No! It was a done deal just as was the Qld election.

You seriously need to stop shitting the bed and come to a more moderate viewpoint.,

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southernraw Saturday, 9 Nov 2024 at 2:03am

Definition of insanity. Doing the same detrimental thing over and over again with the same result.
Could respond..
What's the point.
Good luck to the sincere humans, male and female on this website that understand where i'm coming from. If you can read between the lines, it's not an attack on all swellnet or it's overall users, it's a wake up to the complacency and smugness that a certain clique enjoy thinking this is a safe space from females, who by the way make up a huge percentage of our surfing population. I have to point out the obvious, unfortunately, and of course the insecure will say it's patronising....but patronising compared to what? This current community? Back slappin bro's?
Why is it such a struggle to be inclusive?
Fuck feel like i'm talking to toddlers.
Am I??
How do you lot need this explained to you?
Wowee. And this is 2024.

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seeds Saturday, 9 Nov 2024 at 2:07am

Fuck you. I’m not insecure.
Your comprehension is lacking to say the least. It’s that what kicked this all off.
Take ya fucken sheriff badge off.
Women don’t need it or you.

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southernraw Saturday, 9 Nov 2024 at 2:12am

@donaldorange is that you?
Must be.
You fit the Swellnet profile perfectly.
Cheers.