Shingles
old-dog wrote:I bet you 10k its true if you like, I can easily prove it.
We use AUD here old-dog. Not Rupiah
thermalben wrote:seeds wrote:What’d it cost Ben?
Two doses at $300 a pop. Yeah, not cheap. But I weighed the options, discussed it with the doc and decided the benefits were worth it.
Bloody hell. None the less sounds like it was a good idea to get the vax.
AlfredWallace wrote:Shingles. It’s a Herpes species, zoster in fact.
We also have well known species such as Herpes simplex and Herpes complex.
Chicken pox virus is the main cause. AW
My daughter's school had a confirmed case of Chicken Pox this week.
My mother somehow knew the cost of the shots .
Guessing it's an old disease , that I had forgotten about , but my mum hadn't .
Wonderful we have new treatments !!!
She said you can also have a shot , IF U catch the disease Early , which stops Shingles .
Maybe an Old Wives Tale ?
My understanding is that once you've got shingles, it's too late to get any shot that'll stop it (you can take antiviral medication to try and lessen the effects - which I did, though it didn't really work). Preventative action is your only option.
The vaccine is free for over 65's.
The wife says when she was a little kid one of her siblings got chicken pox, so mum put the other 5 kids in the same room so they would all get it over with at once.
I remember having it when I was about 7 years old, red itchy bumps all over, but I liked it as I got to spend the whole week at home alone watching combat on the black and white 20" TV and eating still warm bread and buns from the horse drawn bakers cart.
My sister in law was told to get the jab in between episodes of shingles to lessen the chance of it returning, which it appears to have done. She even had blisters inside her mouth making it hard to eat.
thermalben wrote:My understanding is that once you've got shingles, it's too late to get any shot that'll stop it (you can take antiviral medication to try and lessen the effects - which I did, though it didn't really work)..
Get onto it early enough and acyclovir or similar shut down symptoms.
blackers wrote:thermalben wrote:My understanding is that once you've got shingles, it's too late to get any shot that'll stop it (you can take antiviral medication to try and lessen the effects - which I did, though it didn't really work)..
Get onto it early enough and acyclovir or similar shut down symptoms.
Didn't work for me, unfortunately (was on to it within 48 hours of the red spots appearing).
Mum always says 'Shingles for singles' - she's had it and reckons she never wants it again.
I know that doesn't help, hope you stay without symptoms Ben.
Every time i see this thread topic on the front page for a split second i read it as Singles, such a great soundtrack
BTW. I never realised shingles was so serious i always assumed it was just a rash...hmmm.
I really like Alish in Chains.
Ha ha. Took me a while. But then again, I've got a dyshlexic heart.
blackers wrote:thermalben wrote:My understanding is that once you've got shingles, it's too late to get any shot that'll stop it (you can take antiviral medication to try and lessen the effects - which I did, though it didn't really work)..
Get onto it early enough and acyclovir or similar shut down symptoms.
Acyclovir cheap as chips in Indo. I used it for cold sores, always bring back a stash.
Here prescription needed and ext.
indo-dreaming wrote:Every time i see this thread topic on the front page for a split second i read it as Singles, such a great soundtrack
BTW. I never realised shingles was so serious i always assumed it was just a rash...hmmm.
What a great film of a great music era.....
thermalben wrote:....
Didn't work for me, unfortunately (was on to it within 48 hours of the red spots appearing).
Bad luck.
Got the second dose yesterday.
Standard dull ache on the arm (ironically balancing the other arm, where I've pulled the latissimus dorsi).
Otherwise, my 5G service is still working fine.
Crikey @ben, loving your self effacing humour thou in the circumstances
Had the two part shingles jam late last year early this year felt like I had been run over by a truck for a day or two each time plus very sore arm.
A neighbor just had shingles put him on his back for 4 months really heavy pain which he still has, Dad also had shingles nearly lost his eye sight.
I have had it as a 15 year old and was no big issue other than discompt, remember the quack saying given the area and size of the rash if I was an adult I would have been in trouble.
200m y/o Alien Radioactive 'Space Rock penetrates to corrupt and harbour within our Planets Core.
This evolutionary process heats to melt internal core to branch, boil then erupt as Surface Volcanoes.
We being children of the universe are beholden to Alien life envigourating Mother's Natures life force
* Volcanic Atmospherics then spread any/all nature / Alien Airborne Virus worldwide by season.
* Many perish but slow absorption can temper the Viral Load as Mother Earth by seasonal releases
* Photosynthesis recycles the Virus into the Atmosphere as organically modified lesser harmful strains.
Universal Viral Cycle evolves within Earth's Atmospherics hosted by us Earthlings.
Earth and Earthlings team to regulate Alien Invasion...good job crew!
Exclusive #1swellnet review of "Atmospheric Viral Cycle"
Seasonal spreading Airborne Virus infects by peak exposure and/or Peak immunity wane.
Naturally Pop / Climate dynamics dictate variations of 1/2/3/4 seasonal outbreaks.
Meaning countries spanning Pop over seasonal indifference typically respond to Human Transit waves!
Further upon this Airport Hubs will temper longer ongoing moderate waves of Airborne Virus.
Just as Covid exampled Isolated Spikes we now live with Uniformed Global spread of Covid Waves.
More Volcanic Eruptions occur during mid winter 18% more on Land > 50% more Coastal eruptions.
More Northern Hemisphere Land = More Rain/Snow/Ice on Land deprives 1cm of ocean = Plate Stress.
Now what would the crew think if tbb informed that Human Fluid levels drop by 8.6% during winter.
So there we have it...both Earth's and Human Core share a Winter Drought that Virus exploits!
75-80% People Worldwide are Dehydrated and is the underlying root cause of immune dysfunction
Winter Volcanic Explosions on + Spring Fever > Silly Season Atmospherics
Airborne Virus infections exploit vulnerable human Lung weakness during cold snaps / Heat Waves
People seek relief by congregating in protected neutral climate controlled crowded Viral Hubs
Approx 90% [+] Chicken Pox Pop > 75% [+] Covid (Soon 90%)
The Virus never leaves the infected Host equally & most retain & Live with Viral DNA.
Several Viruses are Latentley micro RNA managed within several regional Root Ganglia
What doesn't Kill You makes you Stronger > Well, your immunity against reinfection of same virus!
1888 Chicken Pox (Chick Pea Blisters) led to Shingles Outbreak (1943) Confirmed Same Viral Load!
1970-90's Chickenpox Vax
Shingles has lesser 33% self reinfected and less infectious > Warning to Infection Risk!
1995-2006 Shingles Zostavax 2020 ended in Mass Lawsuit by 2,000 injured > 2017 Shingrix
Recapping Human Spinal Nerve Root Ganglia host several immune evading Airborne Virus.
This is down to Micro RNA suppressing Gene Expression allowing Latent Virus to evade detection.
Naturally if the Host keeps it's integral Nerve System Intact then Virus will be forever contained.
Well Guess wot...Humans aren't perfect...
Rooted Nerves are Damaged by...
Stress > severing tissue (Surgery) > Impact - Crushed > Incubation by new similar Virus or Vax!
The very reason Medics inform Surgery robs 5 years of Life + Precaution for each Vax Reaction.
It's no accident that Mass Vaxed World is experiencing a ramp in Spinal Chord / Immune disorders.
Covid mRNA Vax alters miRNA Expression to contribute to the onset of other long term diseases.
Dangerous long-lasting dysregulation progresses Cancers + Development of different disorders.
Any Vax Health problem is considered adverse but not related to Vax [LAW]
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9863643/#:~:text=It%20has%20bee....
23rd Aug 2021 1st mRNA Vax 52.8% + 2nd mRNA Vax 30.3%
Perfectly Timed Springtime Shingles Outbreak Vax Ad...Oopsie!
Orchestrated Mass Increase (%) of Covid Viral / Vax incubating Chickenpox Spinal infections
https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-024-03347-6
Encephalitis (15-25%) Swollen Brain Cells > (Cranial Nerve Ganglia)
Cranial Neuropathies (10%) Swollen Ocular Nerve (Trigeminal Ganglia)
Myelitis (Mostly Youth) Inflamed Spinal Chords > Lack of Sun (Autonomic/Thoracic/Dorsal Ganglias)
Meningitis (Mostly Black Men 30-60) Inflamed Spinal Chords > Lack of Vitamin D
Vasculopathy > Swollen Blood Vessels
Orchestrated Mass increase (%) of Covid / Vax Spinal Nerve incubating Chickenpox Skin Outbreaks
Shingles > Herpes > MPox
Together with growing assortment of said Cancers > Blood disorders...etc
So...confirming it's not just a Covid Vax Reaction Chickenpox > Shingles Outbreak
Chickenpox can corrupt more so internally for Horrific lifelong Autoimmune onslaught.
Ok...science explains how Virus & Vax disrupt the nervous system & thereby infect Spine / Brain etc!
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(Pause)
Smallpox is not a Global or National notifiable Virus as NSW don't even register Chickenpox cases.
Well to make this research more fun > NSW share the only Shingles Ward Chart that tbb could find!
Go figure...A perfect example of how Censored Health Data is shared where no onus is attached! Huh!
Can't make this stuff up!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-21/shingles-cases-increasing-nsw-cov...
Covid Vax is exempted & 2nd Dose no longer prescribed due to immense Immune damage.
So Govts aren't strictly obliged to care wot Chickenpox/Shingles/Vax does...(Zero Research Grants!)
Therefore less funded Studies leaving a pile of "Unknown How Shingles Virus Spreads reports!"
There are reports of Mask / Gloves when Carers enter Shingles confines & Serious Aerosol Risk.
All here know that these Diseases and Vax pass on to next & beyond with no say in the matter.
There is much info on Pregnancy & Birth with Smallpox ...(That's another chapter!)
Plenty of reports point to peak seasonal Shingles but seldom merge demographics or race.
There are just enough reports to knit together Global Seasonal Shingles Patterns
Crew can investigate Elder Age / Gender disparity + Seasonal Shingles / Reason for Skin Outbreaks.
tbb's suffered as a Teen but on both sides & flare ups over decades...easing until mid age.
Was just examining my cluster of shrinking dark raised bumps on my left side mostly.
tbb verifies several outbreaks over decades at very same location but each being less so.
Experts relented and agree around 5% get reinfected & small % of them in the same location
Just sharing if you feel a tingle on yer face...don't shave over the scars...you will risk another bout!
Same goes for picking at same location...it will fire up...just less so each time.
Be mindful of whom you hug & where ya touch during any skin breach.
Happy to share the exclusive 'Known alt seasonal cycle' of a Shingles Outbreak
Black people 50% less Shingles outbreaks > Hives 57.5% > Vax 17.9% > Hispanic 15.1%.
White Women aged 45-64 suffer the most outbreaks > Hives 82.2% > Vax 29.3%
Western White Mid -Senior women & Men Seachange are more likely to Rollout Shingles Vaccine
Let's stick with Well Known Age Factor before the secondary Colour Anomaly.
The reason older Menopausal Women are most at risk is Motherhood!
The burden of carrying extra weight crushes Spinal Nerves + Epidural +Massive deep incisions
All severely Disrupting Latent Virus flow.
(Now!) Each Spinal Nerve is rooted to Respected Root Nerve Ganglia (Above)
So which side of the Spinal nerve is Damaged starts the Smallpox diversion to flood respective Ganglia.
Ganglia defensively re roots Smallpox toward extremities (Dermatomes)
https://www.healthline.com/health/dermatome#dermatomes-map
31 Spinal Nerves branch out to 30 Dermatomes to transmit signals to the Brain.
Each damaged Spinal Nerve detours Chickenpox / Mpox / Herpes to boil closer to the surface.
Surface Heat.
Ok! Got that!
Depending on which Side of which Damaged Spinal Nerve starts the flow diversion
Crushed Spinal Disc > Pinches Spinal Nerves to redirect latent Smallpox to respective Dermatomes
Shirt / Bras rub heated patch as UV heat Penetrates erupting shingles as airborne chickenpox virus.
Sounds as if any individual exalted Chickenpox would surely brew a new mutant strain...
Weirdly the virus only mutates every 200-400 yrs.
This adds to why none consider any Mass Vax reaction or Notification on a latent Virus as a big deal.
(No urgency to contain a known relatively stable but still deadly virus!)
Ok! Now we can call in the White Mammas & Daggy Dads...
Aging White crew are thinnest skinned of all groups and UV rays will penetrate delicate roasting flesh.
After your winter Covid Vax or bout your body is dehydrated / Immunity depleted & Skin is worn thin.
The Vax / Infection bypasses your Pinched Spinal Nerves > Smallpox virus towards breaking point
Your aging Dehydrated Flesh is thinning & Failing.
Any first decent UV rays or Light Sunburn upon yer bundle of nerves heat patch strikes like a match.
https://sundoctors.com.au/blog/link-sun-exposure-shingles/
Just like Lightning striking dry winter Tinder or Dry Winter Tech Plates rubbing to heat up a Volcano!
In this case it's Less Hydration on Rubbing Spinal Nerves that heat Airborne Virus to breach with UV.
Again...Yer body perfectly naturally dehydrated in sync with Peak Dehydrated seasonal Mother Nature.
Rising UV Heat boils less fluid hotter as it rises to break thru thinning eroded surface & erupts. (Bingo!)
Sunny Springtime shines upon aging least defensive dehydrated Shingled Seachange Huts!
tbb makes no apologies of Earthly Comparisons as the more one examines, the more similar process.
Sure it sounds goofy but whatever the relation or effect seems as if it's written in the Stars.
Can go over it endless different ways but it's an Alien Airborne Viral Process within us & our Planet.
Research traces it's origin back way before Humans...200m years ago Triassic/Jurassic period.
https://biology.indiana.edu/news-events/news/2021/foster-chickenpox-fasc....
Now ya believe tbb...200m y/o Atmospheric Snapshot of Meteor Impact Site...(Blame the French!)
https://eos.org/articles/meteor-impact-site-holds-200-million-year-old-a....
Smallpox as the Alien that lives within us all...all desperately wanna believe that! Shh! Our Secret!
tbb thought to finish with a big bang...(Humans evolved from a lactose intolerant Milky Way Bug!)
Never reimagined that!
Bonus Update for those seeking a Free Shingles Vax
Spring September 2024 Fed Govt Expands Shingles Vax
Free Shingles Vax has been expanded to include people at Moderate to High Risk of Severe infection and complications from Shingles
No 'Age Bracket' or 'Underlying Condition' for (Moderate Risk) of Unknown Risk?
see GP for yer Moderate Freebie! Ya can Jab with other Vax but it's preferable as a lone Vax they say!
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/2024-08/national-immunisat...
PS : Another reason for researching and sharing is tbb is tormented by a year long bout of Cellulitis.
Tried every antibiotic & done every blood / urine / diagnostic test yet no relief from crippling infection.
Burns deep to the bone & pain is crippling...can't stand or run & goin' up/down Stairs is torture.
This on top of severe Myositis in legs / Hips- Aplasia-Osteoartrosis / Bakers Cyst/ Obliterated Calf.
https://www.ksl.com/article/21796003/mommy-medicine-a-common-but-deadly-...
This is an example of tbb's infection level ...about 4 months like this presents as mildly serious.
But you try walking on them healthy legs... tbb knows & feels the pain he's in...it's a disability for sure!
Mostly coz there is no relief...just constant pain and no hope of healing...does yer head in...
2 months back said if I could walk by Xmas it would be a miracle...can't see it happening...
GP says to get my heart checked again...from tomorrow over next few weeks...getting scary now!
Yesterday paid $100 just for Treadmill Training session for Monday's Stress Test! Legs are on Fire!
Anyone had 'em before?
Had a bit of a crook neck last Monday, persisted into Tuesday then migrated to a headache that night and into Wednesday (headaches are rare for me, too). Felt a smidge worse Thursday, then Friday noticed a few small red marks appearing near my shoulder. That night it developed into a full blown rash across my shoulder and chest.
Yep, I've got Shingles.
Gotta say, the pain is bad, but in a weird way. I've got a permanent dull ache across my shoulder, as if the collarbone has been broken. There are occasional sharp shooting pains from my shoulder up into my neck. The rash should be itchy, but it isn't (yet!). So right now I'm feeling the opposite of what I thought it'd be like.
Not looking forward to the scabs falling off, either.
I'm on antibiotics, but the pain relief medication isn't doing much (apparently this is common, for nerve pain?). Not keen to go higher than Panadeine Forte either.
So, at the risk of scaring the crap out of myself, has anyone else had this? I've already heard a few stories, from "worst pain of my life, for a month" through to "moderate annoyance for a week". Apparently Shingles can re-occur down the track too, though there is a vaccine available (I'm outside of the eligible rebate age bracket, so apparently it costs $280).
Either way, I'm not looking forward to the next fortnight. Already had four terrible nights of sleep.
Only good news is that my kids won't have to go through this, as they've been vaccinated against Chicken Pox.