Plenty of wind changes this week with a strong S'ly change and S swells for the weekend

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Steve Shearer (freeride76)

South-east Queensland and Northern NSW Surf Forecast by Steve Shearer (issued Mon 4th Sep)

Features of the Forecast (tl;dr)

  • Small SE swell leftovers Tues with freshening N/NW-N’ly winds
  • S’ly change Wed with a small pulse of S swell PM
  • Freshening N’lies Thurs/Fri with some workable NE windswell, favouring MNC for size
  • Small amounts of E/NE tradewind swell Thurs/Fri, favouring SEQLD
  • Strong S’ly winds for the weekend with plenty of S swell expected
  • More S swell, potentially sizey in the medium term next week- stay tuned for updates

Recap

S-S/SE swell came in pretty hot over the weekend, at the top end or over f/cast expectations as a low pressure trough hovered in the Tasman and E’ly swell from a tropical trough made landfall. Sat saw 3ft+ surf across S exposed breaks in NENSW, a notch smaller in SEQLD  with clean morning conditions under offshore winds before winds tended S’ly. Sunday was roughly similar in size with nice clean conditions extending well into the midday hours before light SE-NE breezes kicked in. Today has seen a general reduction in size from the S’ly quarter with 2-3ft surf, (2ft in SEQLD) with E swell in the mix to similar sizes. Early conditions were cleanish around morning storms with a mod NE flow kicking in during the day. 

A few chunky beachies on the weekend with patches of real quality

This week (Sep 4-8)

The weekend’s low pressure system is still lingering near New Zealand, with the merger of the low with a tropical derived low not really happening. As a result the expected Cook Strait fetch isn’t as well aligned or juicy and will only be a minor swell source for the region. A pair of fronts from tomorrow race away quickly with a small spike of S swell expected. The following system expected over the weekend now looks much stronger and under current modelling is expected to be a significant source of sizey S swell, potentially with several large pulses. Lets look at the details.

In the short run we’ll see overnight N’lies tend N-NW tomorrow as an inland trough and front approaches then passes through Bass Strait. Small leftovers are on offer, in the 2ft range, with an occ 3footer at S facing beaches in NENSW. A small E/NE-NE infeed into the trough offers up a modest increase in short period NE windswell, which may offer some workable 2 footers on the backbeaches. Not much elsewhere.

The trough brings an overnight or early morning S’ly change (late morning and S-SE north of Cape Moreton). Near gales out of Bass Strait and proximate to the South Coast Tues should see a small but distinct S swell spike for later Wed across NENSW S facing beaches. Nothing amazing but worth some 2-3ft sets at S facing beaches. Elsewhere it will be a small blend of leftover SE-E/SE swell and E/NE swell offering up 2ft surf.

Winds turn N’ly again and this flow is likely to freshen through Thurs as a complex trough/front and low complex approach from the W. That’s likely to see some workable NE windswell develop Thurs a’noon in the 2ft range, a notch bigger on the MNC. E’ly tradewinds look to develop through the Coral Sea, and this should add some 2ft energy through the a’noon, a notch bigger on the Sunshine Coast.

A similar mix of E and NE swells is on offer for Fri, with the MNC likely to see more NE windswell and areas north of the border seeing more E’ly tradewind swell. Mod/fresh N-NNE winds are expected with the MNC possibly seeing a late S’ly change as a front/low start to push E of Tasmania, hopefully at a strength we haven’t see for a while. 

This weekend (Sep 9-10)

Expect revisions as we move through the week but under current modelling the front/low/trough combo forms a a long angled fetch in the lower Tasman as the low moves away, then a proximate fetch of near gales to the NSW Coast as a long trough and low form in the Tasman. With near gales near the coast (likely fresh/strong SW inshore) we should see quite a rapid rise in S swell Sat, likely up into the 3-5ft range in NENSW, smaller 3ft in SEQLD. Protected or semi-protected spots only under fresh S’ly winds. Small amounts of E’ly tradewind swell to 2-3ft pad out wave heights in SEQLD but will quickly be lost amongst the building sea state in NENSW.

Plenty of energy still into Sun with fresh S-SSE winds, and size in the 3-5ft range, smaller in SEQLD. Expect revisions through the week. 

Next week (Sep 11 onwards)

Another blast of S swell likely early next week, possibly sizey, as another front enters the Tasman, reinforcing the existing long trough/low and potentially forming a new low. Under EC modelling the reinforced low sits in the Tasman, offering up elevated wave heights for most of next week, likely peaking Tues/Wed in the 5-6ft range, smaller in SEQLD.

GFS has a slightly less persistent system, with the new front bringing a large pulse of S swell Tues/Wed into the 4-5ft range and a slow easing into Thurs. 

With broad model agreement odds are firming we’ll see a significant S swell event this weekend and into early/mid next week with plenty of S’ly wind. Still a ways to go though before this storm forms, so check back in on Wed and we’ll run the ruler over it again.

Seeya then.

Comments

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donweather Monday, 4 Sep 2023 at 4:33pm

Not complaining about sustained periods of Sly winds and swell in Spring.

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Solitude Monday, 4 Sep 2023 at 5:06pm

To be fair spring only started 4 days ago. To my mind my September is often ‘ok’

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freeride76 Monday, 4 Sep 2023 at 7:29pm

True, September has been amazing the past few years- but I put that down to La Niña.

Been a while since we've seen a real Spring pattern develop with sustained N'ly episodes.

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donweather Monday, 4 Sep 2023 at 9:26pm

Well August was winter and it had way too Fcking many days of Nly winds. Hence my comment about Sly winds in spring.

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Solitude Tuesday, 5 Sep 2023 at 6:37am

There’s been a real noticeable lack of blue bottles the last couple of summers, I fear this summer could be a shocker for them

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Craig Tuesday, 5 Sep 2023 at 7:23am

Yep, I believe it will be.

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tiger Tuesday, 5 Sep 2023 at 8:03am

Yeah we've got plenty to look forward to. Nuclear NE'ers, cold upwelling, bluebottles, drought, bushfires, sharks. Yay for an El Nino spring!
That said, the immediate forecast isn't looking too bad.

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freeride76 Tuesday, 5 Sep 2023 at 9:21am

Got the flatty gear out Tiger?

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tiger Tuesday, 5 Sep 2023 at 12:24pm

Yeah the fishings been good. Lots in 40-50cm class ATM. Which is prime eating size. Lots of signs of big girls around too!

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murderinc Tuesday, 5 Sep 2023 at 9:57am

Wonder if the upcoming devil winds combined with their cold upwelling will have an impact on the above-average water temps off the coast.

I know we are in for a shocker this year irrespective but a question for the weather guru's - if the water temp remains the same, is it safe to think that a positive SAM event during summer could ramp up Easterly swells along with an increased chance of rain despite Positive IOD+ Nino?

It's quite a strange setup in that we do not usually get these warm waters so the rule book for the El Nino has changed so I am guessing that all eyes now focus on the SAM :)

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Craig Tuesday, 5 Sep 2023 at 10:05am

Yep, El Niño doesn't always mean dry for coastal Australia, it's more so inland regions, La Niña's signal has a greater effect on the countries climate than El Niño.

We've had wet El Niño years, depends on where the signal is strongest across the Pacific.

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murderinc Tuesday, 5 Sep 2023 at 10:17am

Cheers Craig yeah always knew that about Nino & the fact that IOD + Sam can have even greater affects on the country.

Does my thoughts around a Positive Sam + warmer waters equate to a greater chance of swells coming from the eastern quadrant?

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donweather Tuesday, 5 Sep 2023 at 11:01am

Be interested to hear more around your thoughts on a positive SAM impacting the east coast (partic Nth NSW and SE Qld) surf prospects?

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/about/?bookmark=sam#:~:text=The%20SAM%20re....

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murderinc Tuesday, 5 Sep 2023 at 11:29am

Given the waters are quite warm and if a Positive SAM event were to coincide with this unusual event, wouldn't this then potentially translate to an increase of swells from the east due to an increase with an onshore flow?

This could only play out on the previsio that the waters remain warm off the east coast with no disruption from any massive devil wind event which should alter the temps.

P.S - you the same donweather from the old Burleighcam days? :)

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donweather Tuesday, 5 Sep 2023 at 1:10pm

Yep that's moi

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Distracted Tuesday, 5 Sep 2023 at 11:19am

There are some elevated sea surface temperature anomalies off the east coast at the moment…. but they don’t look too significant? Craig?
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDYOC063.Aus.SSTAnomaly.shtml
Be interesting to see if they are still there next month and into summer … I reckon not :(

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freeride76 Tuesday, 5 Sep 2023 at 11:33am

Depends on the strength of the positive SAM and whether local upwelling events over-ride it.

Weak positive, no effect.

Strong positive, possibly increased E'ly flow with more tradewind surf.

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Craig Tuesday, 5 Sep 2023 at 12:59pm

Yeah lots of moving parts, long-term seasonal forecasts has a small low indenting generally higher than normal pressure on the southern NSW coast. This might keep the northerlies at bay for the southern locations..

Sept/Oct/Nov anomaly forecast..

Which deepens into summer.

Hard to say.

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Craig Tuesday, 5 Sep 2023 at 1:00pm

Nov/Dec/Jan

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donweather Tuesday, 5 Sep 2023 at 1:11pm

Sorry Craig what are those charts plotting? Probability of what?