Building cyclone swells from the east, peaking Sunday and Monday
South-east Queensland and Northern NSW Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Wednesday 14th February)
Best Days: Entire period: building E'ly swell from Thursday onwards. Could very well become too big for many coasts over the weekend and early next week. Potential for a large SE swell (from the same system) early/mid next week.
Recap: Small residual surf for the last few days with winds out of the north, light and variable in the mornings.
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This week (Feb 15 - 16)
*deep breath*
Righto, we’re getting closer and closer to this swell event.
The leading edge of long range E’ly groundswell is expected to make landfall Thursday morning, generated by the early stages of Severe Tropical Cyclone Gita, when it was positioned well east of Tonga on Sunday and Monday. Model guidance has the initial forerunners at 18.1 seconds (!) arriving around 6am at the Gold Coast, though this energy will be very small and will be hard to detect at the beach (actual periods recorded at the buoy may not be quite this high). So, we may kick off the dawn patrol with small residual energy from today.
Size should build throughout the day though, increasing from 2-3ft to 3-5ft by the afternoon across most open coasts. But to be honest it’s hard to have confidence in the first few hours of what’s currently expected to be seven-or-more-day swell event. Expect extremely long breaks between the sets, which could be just one or two waves a piece.
Friday should see a more notable increase in E/NE swell, but again, the energy we see in the water on Friday will have been generated around Tuesday this week, just near Tonga - when STC Gita was very strong though still relatively small in diameter. As such, the sets will remain very inconsistent.
Our in-house surf model is calling for 4–6ft surf building to a steady 6ft at most coasts, and this seems about right given the position and strength of STC Gita.
However, winds look to be a problem on Friday as they’ll freshen from the north under the influence of a trough of low pressure across inland Queensland. So, quality surfing options will be somewhat restricted.
It’s worth keeping in mind a few things - not just relative to Friday's surf, but for the entire swell event. And that is: long period E'ly swells are an extremely rare occurrence across this region. As such, compared to common trade swells, southerly swells (both ground and wind), and short-to-mid range swells from other quadrants, we aren’t familiar with how long period E'ly energy reacts across the East Coast. So, if you check your local and it’s not behaving as expected, but wind conditions are favourable, take the time to scope out somewhere else. Sometimes it’s surprising just how much difference there can be in wave heights across relatively small stretches of coastline.
As a side note, a small southerly swell will also push up the Northern NSW coast later Thursday and through Friday but it’ll be barely discernible beneath the E’ly swell.
This weekend (Feb 17 - 18)
Let’s discuss the weekend’s local winds first.
As STC Gita approaches from the north-east, it’ll squeeze against a high pressure system in the southern Tasman Sea on Saturday, freshening S/SE winds across the region from the north to south as the weekend progresses (so, some regions, especially those in the south, may see a period of variable winds Saturday).
Sunday will likely see the most strength, though being from the southern quadrant it’ll be ideal for the points and other sheltered locations.
Now, on to the surf.
The time it takes for swell energy to reach the East Coast from STC Gita is relative to wind strength (and thus swell period), and also distance on the coast. As a very broad rule of thumb, the surf we see on Saturday will have been generated from STC Gita’s position on Thursday and Friday (tracking between Fiji and New Caledonia); Sunday’s surf will be from its position later Friday and into Saturday (south of New Caledonia).
Assessing the track of the cyclone - which, to the great credit of our computer modelling overlords, has been quite accurate at long range for this event - shows that up until Friday or even early Saturday, the supporting ridge below STC Gita has been relatively short in length, and its forward speed has been slower than ideal for a captured fetch scenario.
This is modelled to change from Saturday, which means we’re essentially looking at a peak through Sunday afternoon and early Monday.
To sum up the synoptic situation best: assuming the models hold true (and they certainly have been doing a fine job to date), relative to this particular swell window, STC Gita is an unprecedented weather system from a surf forecasting point of view.
Its initial development through the Tropical South Pacific and its unwavering track as a Cat 4/5 system through our primary eastern swell window is much more akin to what we’d see a typhoon undertake in the Tropical North-west Pacific Ocean (delivering huge waves to Japan). I really can’t recall seeing anything like it in our hood before.
So, taking that into account, Sunday (and Monday)’s surf forecast is extremely difficult because wave model guidance appears to be majorly undercooking the size and period from this event. Over the weekend, STC Gita will recurve to the W/SW, and it’ll speed up too, allowing for a capture fetch scenario. Yes, it’ll track more within Southern NSW’s swell window, but there’ll still be a very healthy fetch of storm force winds aimed towards our region too.
During this time the system will become extra tropical, broadening its width (and thus fetch), and it appears that the system will trend away from its long-lived symmetrical composition to more of a meridionally-aligned Tasman Low hybrid, developing a strong SE fetch on its western flank as it recurves back towards New Zealand.
In fact, ex-STC Gita may remain active within the East Coast’s swell window all the way through until Wednesday, and if this occurs it’s likely that we’ll see swell energy holding through until Friday, maybe even early Saturday - which if it eventuates would be eight or nine days of swell from a solitary weather system. Incredible.
The other factor worth mentioning is that the models aren’t quite picking up the likely swell periods. Model guidance on Saturday and Sunday have peak swell periods around 14 seconds, which is typical of source wind speeds around 40kts. Although we probably won’t see much energy from the core wind speeds (of 100kts+) due to their tiny diameter, model guidance is showing a healthy spread of 50kt+ winds, which could translate to peak swell periods in the 18+ second range at times.
So, enough waffle - I need to commit to some figures.
At this stage it looks like we can expect 6-8ft across most open coasts on Saturday, building to 8-10ft on Sunday morning and further again to 12ft+ later Sunday and into Monday. Yeah, this is as high as I've ever called for this region but it's hard to look at the synoptics and find a reason not to - in fact given the lack of analogous swell events to work off, this prediction may even be somewhat conservative. I really do need a few more days to gain more confidence though.
Regardless, there ain’t many locations that can handle this size: unlike other parts of the country, Northern NSW and SE Qld coasts are not conditioned for such large swell events so it’s highly likely that (unless you’re tackling the big stuff) there’ll be anything on offer. But, it’ll be quite a spectacle.
Oh, and as mentioned in Monday's notes, there’ll be some strong long period S’ly groundswell in the mix across Northern NSW into Sunday, from a deep low S/SW of Tasmania on Thursday. It’s positioned inside the Tasmanian swell shadow but reliable south swell magnets should see 4-5ft sets from this source at times, mainly showing through Sunday. Nice lil' curveball, eh?
Next week (Feb 19th onwards)
Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday next week ain’t any less complex than they were a few days ago.
Fresh S’ly winds will grace the coast Monday and Tuesday as ex-STC Gita skirts the western Tasman Sea. However, the models are starting to split quite a bit from Monday onwards so confidence for the trend beyond our initial peak in size Sunday/Monday isn’t especially high right now.
Monday’s size is already discussed above (in Sunday’s notes): the latest model guidance still has core winds of 50kts nicely within our swell window as of Sunday afternoon so there’s a strong chance we’ll see very large waves persisting into the start of next week. Again, it could very well be too big for most coasts.
The size trend will however ease off from the north first, as ex-TC Gita tracks southwards, so this may result in smaller surf (relative) across the Sunshine Coast throughout the period.
As for new energy, there’s a fair chance that a new, large SE swell will be generated from the resulting SE fetch off the western flank of ex-TC Gita as it pushes through the Tasman Sea, though we need a few more days to firm up the specifics. The size of this building SE swell (through Tuesday, easing from Wednesday onwards) would likely rule out any exposed beaches south of the border (8ft or more) and absolutely push the best waves to the Queensland points under the southerly flow.
So, that’s it in a nutshell: we’ve got quite an incredible swell event unfolding from Thursday onwards, and unless we see a major swing in the model guidance by Friday, anticipation will remain high for an incredible swell event over the weekend and early next week.
See you Friday.
Comments
Froth meter is set to high !
Pretty much rules QLD out.
Quiet Sheepdog.
Oh Dear Narrownecks newly placed bags are rooted.
Great report Ben had your work cut out for yourself. Some one throw the dog a bone LOL SD
C'mon Sheepdog, tell us a coupla spots that'll be firing.....
Yep going to be something to see alright....probably stacked to the horizon.....long time since that's happened ...poor old Goldy is gunna cop a flogging along with pretty much every where else,but with the commonwealth games not far away Goldy council will have to be worried.
Swains might be alright, You would need to be already on your way tho....
What about up near Bundaberg? Couple of good novelty spots?
think people will be disappointed in those novelty spots.
Ha, fair enough.
WW3 mod' showing E 12' + Sunday morning going ESE Monday morning .
Such a well written report as always. Like a kid in a lolly shop for you Ben.
Although I haven't used the Qld Govt buoy's spectral data much in the past, they are useful for distinguishing new long period energy beneath dominant short range noise.
And, looking at the data this morning: the Tweed buoy picked up some faint super-long period energy around the 20 second range overnight. This is higher than modelled (hence an earlier-than-forecast arrival time) though it's only a tiny signal so would be difficult to spot at the beach.
This energy won't show on the regular period charts (which display Tp and Tz) until it is the peak energy swell train. That should occur sometime throughout the day.
Ya beat me to it Ben. Just saw this on the tweed buoy. How come Byron buoy not showing it?
MHL spectral data is on the fritz. Has been for quite some time too.
Notable difference between the BOM's forecasts for the adjacent Gold Coast Waters and Byron Coastal Waters, for Friday (this is because they're QC'd by different Regional Forecasting Offices).
Gold Coast Waters Forecast: Cape Moreton to Point Danger
Friday 16 February
Swell: Easterly 1.5 to 2 metres.
Byron Coastal Waters Forecast: Point Danger to Wooli
Friday 16 February
Swell: Easterly around 1 metre, increasing to 1 to 1.5 metres during the morning.
I'm finding it hard to understand how period energy can arrive at the coast before the swell size increases - in this case the charts I'm viewing are showing a 6 hour lag. I would have thought they arrived together - how can you have 20 second period /no swell - weird .
This will help explain it..
Why The Swell Train Is Often Late
Hey Ben how come the surf forecast graph only shows it being six foot on the biggest days?
The global swell model is not picking up the peak swell periods very well.
Also, we need to recalibrate our in-house forecast model to better reflect the size distribution above 6ft (our model undercalls for these kinds of long range swells.. does the same in other exposed locations under long range groundswells such as Margarer River, though that location has a slightly different algorithm).
Ok thanks
Learning a lot.... Great job Ben !
I've been keeping an eye on the ASCAT passes and its just starting to beef up on the last pass. As you said Ben the next 24 hours or so will be when the peak of the swell will be generated and so far every pass i have seen suggests a 4-6ft groundswell, which ultimately means good surf potential for the next two days into late Saturday. Whether we see a swell to match all the hype will be clearer over the next 24 hours, it will be exciting to see how it unfolds.
At the moment she is slightly tucked in behind New Cal from the looks of it. Needs to follow the forecasted wsw track over the next 12-18 hours and then its on like donkey kong.
I love the way it boomerangs at the coast then away to NZ
According to this Altimetry pass, she looks to be quite underdone compared to forecast wave heights on her SW/S quadrants. Of course we can't see right into the core at this resolution, nor can we see the wave heights on her SE quadrant which is what we want to see, but for me she does look little under done on this current pass compared with her forecast wave heights.
http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_jason.cgi?a=swpac_alt_00Z
Here's a better view of actual wave heights.
https://manati.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/rscat_images/sgwh/sgwh_wh_cur/zooms/...
https://manati.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/rscat_images/sgwh/sgwh_wh_cur/zooms/...
28-31 feet. WW3 predicting much higher than these recorded figures.......at least 40+ feet in her core.
If the strongest wind speeds around the core aren’t that long a fetch in relation the the rest of the system are the largest waves more peaky or does it all combine?
It's a groundswell. No peaks there my friend....just long long lines!!!
Dominant swell periods have touched 18 seconds at the Tweed and Mooloolaba buoys. For an east swell, this is extremely rare.
Now, a little more size would be nice...
Hey Ben where can I access these wave buoys? I used to go through coastwatch but they changed their site and wave buoy page and I reckon it's shit so hook a brother up ;)
Web address on bottom of graph
Ha ha cheers udo
I'm so jealous of that spectral buoy data. Your poor cousins to the east don't have access to such goodies!
Good (heck, great!) write up, Ben. I'll be in flat, cold, dark Denmark for two weeks visiting my sick dad, but I'll be watching how this all unfolds.
Freeride76, with that N wind on Friday, I hope you score some lefthand beasts in your close northern vicinity.
I'm there right now expecting NE winds and some fun 3 footers, at least.
It's 1-2 ft and blowing SE!
I'm hearing ya Steve. But def some new energy starting to show and I'm liking the S'ly winds over N'lys any day.
It taking it's time Don.
Trying to bring it on, I rockfished the most exposed ledges I could find and didn't even get my feet wet.
Still 1-2ft here at 5.39
Just got back in from a paddle still weak wind chop. These east swell aways lag
no talk of a bank buster swell? or is there no need to state the obvious
All this talk of winds re sat/sun/mon......
Saturday early morning looks to be a fairly slack pressure gradient with possible local downpours. Considering the tides, may I suggest the sand bottomed point surfing dudes pop a valium at 7pm friday night lol, and set the alarm for 3am... Big wave surfers, take saturday off to stretch and meditate.... You'll just ding your board among the gumbies.
Sunday looks like the day for rich kids with jet skis. .... Traditional se winds, 8 foot plus grunt.
A certain "mexican pipe" at high tide could be worth a look for a few broken boards and bodies, or go join the madness at everyones favorite car park for some punch ups, just as entertaining as the drop ins.
Now..... Monday Morning...... Wheeeeewwwwwwww............ I dont know about your call on "fresh southerly winds" at this stage, Ben.... Its a fair punt.... But I'm not committing to that yet, not for the whole forecast region. My latest fave chart has an incredible dead spot re' pressure gradient right over qld, sunny coast in particular mid morning.... I would go out on a limb, and say possible early sw offshore, dropping out to glass, followed by a traditional summer sea breeze.... Whatever way you look at it, early bird gets the worm...
Yes Shheepdog lord work!!! Looks like we will have a persistent ESE flow at the peak in NSW.
eeeeewwwwwww.......
Throwing up with FROTH! licking it up & doing it again!!!
The WAMS have another system doing an encore a few days after Gita. Sneaks in from the North and nudges Fiji before fizzling at the halfway mark. Feel for our Pacific brethren if that comes to pass.
Does a cyclone do anything to SST? Any cooling effect from vortex etc? That is, does a well beaten path reduce the chance of another system being supported behind it?
https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-analysis/2015/03/19/pams-long-las...
Today’s period data is a little behind what was expected (in timeliness, not actual recorded values), but I’m still surprised we haven’t seen a little more energy at the coast this afternoon. Still early days though.
I see you like metvuw sheepdog
Me likes them too
Yeah LOVE metvuw, Ant
Looking at buoy data... Period gone haywire.... It's arrived, peeps....
Fucking hell, I just had a thought: what is the Sunshine Coast Daily going to do with this, they broke the hype-meter on that last swell.
Where do they go?
Their swell of the decade calls for Winston got every man and his 4bie on to the beaches.
Ben just curious but will cloudbreak be doing its thing as well at some stage either from that massive low down below Tassie or from Gita,looks like light winds up that way,have to think theres plenty of swell ....just curious.
Yep, I've been mentioning that south swell for a week but everyone's looking the other way. Looks great for CB too.
Went for a beach walk right on dusk. Def picked up. Inconsistent 3ft sets.
And there it is.....
swell is definetely here. Palmy 4” to 6” on the sets. A bit messy and a long wait inbetween
Wow, you sure? I'm about 3 beaches south of you and I'm looking at inconsistent 3-4 ft surf.
Place I am at has full E swell exposure.
I'd be mightily surprised if Palmy was double that size.
So far every altimetry reading has come in under forecast. I'm not confident Gita has delivered for Friday/Saturday at this stage.
http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_jason.cgi?a=swpac_alt_00Z
http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_jason.cgi?a=swpac_alt_12Z
Popped into my usual Tweed Coast check and the very full high tide was masking a lot of the swell. One stretch of coast seemed just 2-3ft but the other side of the headland was 4-5ft. I was only there for a minute or two though.
haha, someone's trying hard to keep the crowds down at the island today...
Didn't work...
https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/five-metre-tiger-shark-surfac...
Tweed spectral data shows the swell started to kick properly around dark yesterday.
Jeez, getting the timing on these super-long range groundswell is bloody hard.
As for MHL's spectral data - here's a good example how they're just not calibrated correctly (we've been advising MHL of this for years, BTW).
Spectral data says the 15 second swell energy is from the NE.
Graph data says that the 15 second swell energy is from the SE (and now trending S/SE).
Tweed buoy has swell direction bang on east, which is as expected.
Thanks for pointing that out - I was struggling to tie the 2 together.
I've been very cautious on MHL data for the last few years (ignore the spectral completely, only use graph), and the Byron buoy in particular is very flaky. Can't be used as a reliable proxy for surf conditions up here at all, Tweed is much more useful.
Considering our surfcam still images are captured randomly every ten minutes, and considering how inconsistent this building groundswell is, the image below is an impressive random grab from Snapper.
Getting a few more reports of solid surf in the 4-6ft range up and down the coast. Buoy data is on the way up too.
Wurtulla on SC was closing out this morning. Only 4ish foot on occasion, but it's got a lot of grunt behind it!
Wurtulla has become a shit show anyway and it hasn't been good for a long time....
4-6 at the beachie I surfed. But you could get out ok with the lulls and period. Wrong place wrong time and you could get pounded.
Any good?
Too bumpy. Didn't have time to go to the more protected spots. There was still some good ones.
Are they honestly towing in to 4ft waves in Caloundra?
Not sure if the skis are towing, but they seem to be on a seperate bank. Plenty of crew stroking into some gems on the closer bank.
Not this morning, taking photos, others doing step offs on the lefts.
Wasn't great, hardly a wave made all morning, just shutting down as they ran.
About 4ft max sets here, wind affected but some fun warm ups in the corner.
Can definitely feel it's grunt though...I got pasted on a few duckdives on the way back out...this is a different kind of energy and swell.
I'd strongly advise those not so fit and/or experienced to err on the side of caution over the weekend.
Enjoy everyone and stay safe.
She's getting awfully close to New Cal.
https://manati.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/ascat_images/cur_25km_META/zooms/WMB...
http://www.usno.navy.mil/NOOC/nmfc-ph/RSS/jtwc/satshots/09P_160000sams.jpg
That was on the outer edges of the possible forecast track. So its actually curving considerably more west.
Where r u Crg
In Byron...surfed Tallows this morning...I'm not giving up any secret spots with that info...I definitely wasn't alone...
Kings cam..
She's pretty straight. Crowd is thick too.