Building swells across SE Qld from Thursday; fun weekend of trade swells everywhere; solid surf likely next week

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

South-east Queensland and Northern NSW Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Wednesday 24th January)

Best Days: Most days will see good surf in SE Qld, it'll be small initially in Northern NSW though. Sizeable but windy next week.

Recap: Small residual easterly swells have prevailed at most beaches for the last two days, along with a minor flush of S’ly groundswell that raced up the Northern NSW coast late Tuesday and provided inconsistent but clean 2ft+ sets to a handful of exposed south swell magnets this morning before the NE breeze kicked in. 

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This week (Jan 25th - 26th)

Mainly light variable winds tending light to moderate E/NE are expected to finish the working week, so there’ll be clean options across most open beaches both mornings

As for surf, today’s small S’ly swell will be gone by tomorrow. A couple of even smaller long period S’ly swells may appear sporadically over the coming days, but they’ve been sourced from poorly aligned Southern Ocean fronts so they won’t generate much size - just a foot or two at reliable south swell magnets in Northern NSW at best.

Of much more interest to us - mainly those surfers in SE Qld - is a building NE tending E/NE swell from Thursday (more likely the afternoon) into Friday. This is being generated by a freshening E’ly fetch across the southern flank of a broad trough in the Coral Sea. 

Wave heights will be largest with increasing northerly latitude, which means the Sunshine Coast will see the biggest surf - building to 2-3ft at open beaches on Thursday afternoon, and then potentially 3ft to maybe 4ft throughout Friday

However, we’ll see smaller surf south from here, building to 2ft+ Thursday afternoon across the Gold and Tweed Coasts, then 2-3ft+ Friday, with wave heights becoming slowly smaller as you track south from Byron (and with a later arrival time - more likely Friday morning in Northern NSW, possibly the afternoon across the Mid North Coast. 

This weekend (Jan 27th - 28th)

Ahh, complex weather charts. Gotta love ‘em. 

We’ve seen some pretty dramatic variations in model runs over the last few days. However the general premise remains strong for an extended run of quality surf building from this weekend onwards

The weekend will see increasing trade swell from a broadening ridge across the Northern Tasman Sea, through into the Lower Coral Sea. The models have pulled back the strength of this fetch in the last few runs, and also removed a tropical low at the back of the fetch, so the projected surf size is smaller than discused Monday (though, an increase can't be ruled out for Friday's notes.. these here are dynamic days). 

Again, we’ll see the most size across SE Qld beaches and Far Northern NSW, with smaller surf as you head south from Byron Bay. Saturday morning should see 3-4ft surf across the open beaches north of the border (smaller across the points) with a gradual increase to 4-5ft by Sunday afternoon. Similar quality surf is expected south of the border despite the smaller size. 

As for local conditions, winds will gradually freshen from the E/SE though there’ll be periods of lighter S’ly winds early morning. We’ll see the most wind strength across the Sunny Coast (which has less chance of seeing the early light S’ly) but conversely, there won’t be a lot of local wind as you head south from Byron Bay, which means a longer morning window of favourably light S, maybe even SW winds. A nice upside despite the smaaller wave heights.

Next week (Jan 29th onwards)

The forecast models are (again) moving around a LOT for next week.

At the moment we’ve got a wide variety of swell sources from the east, south and north-east into the long term period though it’s likely that things will change the moment after I upload these notes. As such, I’ll provide a broad overview but I’m reluctant to commit to anything specific at the moment. 

First up - a series of tropical lows pulling off the monsoon trough across the tropical South Pacific/Coral Sea region will interact with the Tasman ridge early next week, setting up strong E’ly fetches in the Northern Tasman Sea. Due to the considerable variability between model runs, it’s hard to be confident on the likely size range but it’s quite likely we’ll see the background trade swell of 3-5ft lift to 4-6ft across some coasts through the middle of the week - though it’s hard to know precisely where (some models favour southern NSW, others the East Coast more broadly). This looks to be centered around Wednesday, give or take. 

Further small to moderate E/NE swell is likely later in the week and into next weekend, though this will be dependent on how the monsoon trough behaves. It's a long time away in forecast land.

Around the same time, a cold front is expected to enter the SW Tasman Sea early next week, and interact with the broader trough across the northern Tasman Sea, setting up a strong southerly fetch that’ll generate large S/SE swells building Wednesday into Thursday. Northern NSW could see 5-6ft+ sets at south swell magnets during this time, but - unlikely last week - the short fetch duration means we’ll see much smaller surf north of the border. Again, we need more time to iron out the specifics. 

The only downside is that the accompanying southerly winds - fresh to strong at times - will render many beaches quite bumpy as this south swell reaches a peak (concurrently with, or just after the E’ly swell), so you’ll have to look towards the protected points for the best conditions. 

As for the longer term outlook, there’s a reasonable indication that we'll see continuing activity across a wide variety of swell windows over the next couple of weeks, which is very promising. More importantly, I can’t see there being an extended return to northerlies in the foreseeable future. 

See you Friday.

Comments

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groovie Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 6:21am

Interesting Ben, but what has happened to our cyclonic activity on the east coast? It seems we don't get these systems with the frequency that we used to through the last 10 yrs or so. Why not??? Enjoyed the central Tasman low from last week though, surfing the swell everyday being
fortunate enough to be in the right place @ the right time.

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thermalben Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 7:31am

What kind of frequency (of cyclones) do you think we used to see ten years ago?

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waxyfeet Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 8:48am

But ben, dontcha know, the good old days!

it has more to do with
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/ulterior-motives/201212/why-does-th...

...than synoptic charts :)

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Mulletup Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 10:49am

They were obviously better ten years ago I think he is trying to say

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thermalben Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 10:59am

I can see that - I'm just after some evidence. Ot at least a ballpark indication of what it used to be like.

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lostdoggy Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 11:11am

Well, if we go back 24 years to when Chris Bystrom filmed Cyclone Fever, you can see that there was pretty much a cyclone swell every week ;)

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Mulletup Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 10:52am

Should of been here yesterday maaaaate it was pumping where was ya

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Sprout Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 9:33am

"...extended run of quality surf..."
Not with that wind outside of the usual QLD points which is the minority of QLD surfing coastline. Quality swell perhaps?

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thermalben Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 9:40am

It's also relative to recent weeks and months. Regardless, there'll be good waves somewhere on every coast. 

Part of the fun (or not) of surf reporting and forecasting is trying to find the right tone. I've had surf reporters who've been a complete misery guts - only happy when it's 6ft and offshore. Meanwhile, others are over-frothers and get excited if there's anything remotely rideable. Everyone else is positioned somewhere between, but one surfer's 'quality surf' is another surfer's 'boring trade swell'. 

Personally, I'm a glass-half-full kinda guy, and seeing that the forecast covers such a broad range of the SE Qld and Northern NSW coast, I think 'quality surf' is a reasonable ballpark description. Not epic, not excellent, but also not poor, not tragic.

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lostdoggy Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 11:13am

And then when it is actually epic, certain folk can't surf their 2-3 foot beachie and get upset.

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Sprout Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 1:21pm

Yep fair enough regarding the broad range of coastline and personal points of view.
Wouldn't mind a misery guts reporter for QLD region though ;-)

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donweather Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 11:38am

Ben/Craig, can I assume that the date and time stamp at the top of your WAM page is the latest (time) model run that's being displayed on your WAMS?

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thermalben Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 12:44pm

Yeah, it looks like it is (though I'm not 100% sure.. some weird things happen between the website's front end and back end). Best way to check is to right click on one of the WAM images, and you'll see a folder there with the date (in this case its 2018012412 = 12Z, 24th Jan 2018).

https://s3.amazonaws.com/swellnet-worldwinds/2018012412/charts/Australia-Queensland-lge/swellnet.ww3.dsigwavehgt.06.480x320.png

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donweather Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 2:12pm

Nothing happens when I right click on a WAM image? Certainly can't see any folder? I'm using Chrome.

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thermalben Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 2:28pm

Sorry, I meant right click the image, and open it in a new tab or browser. You'll see the URL.

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donweather Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 3:13pm

Ahhhh, got it....super thanks Ben. It doesn't match the date/time stamp shown at the top of the page, but as long as I know which model run it is now it's all good.

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thermalben Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 3:16pm

I think it does for the 00z and 12Z runs, but the 06Z and 18Z runs are labeled 6 hours in advance (or something odd like that). Been a tricky problem we haven't been able to solve over the last few days, but we're building a new system that'll improve on a lot of these kinds of features. 

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donweather Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 11:46am

BOM have a "moderate" chance of a cyclone forming in the Coral Sea come Saturday. Just need it to skirt this side of New Cal please. Not like GFS!!! :(

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dromodreamer Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 7:28pm

Hi Ben thanks for the forecast's as allways, is that NE swell for tomorrow not happening anymore, here on the northern sunnycoast it's tiny not even 1 foot.

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thermalben Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 7:35pm

I’m watching the Sunshine Beach cam right now and seeing a few 2ft+ sets. Lacklustre, but it’s on an upwards trend.

Yeah, it’s been a little slow to build today but there’s no change to the forecast as yet.. I’ll take another look this evening though.

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Yaroomba Thursday, 25 Jan 2018 at 10:33pm

Just on the old, “were way more cyclone swells way back when”, would be cool to actually see if it really is getting less. Maybe someone who’s bored could go to the Wave buoy and download the data back to 2000 and graph it. I couldn’t be buggered but just putting it out there... Groovie?
Here’s the link for Mooloolaba: https://data.qld.gov.au/dataset/coastal-data-system-waves-mooloolaba