Easing surf Tues onwards; lengthy period of trade swell into the long term

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

South-east Queensland and Northern NSW Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Monday 20th November)

Best Days: Most days will have fun waves. Tuesday for the most size, though SE winds will confine the best waves to sheltered points. Look for a nice kick in E'ly swell this weekend too, ahead of an extended run of small to moderate trade swell into the long term. It's a great looking February weather pattern in November, so take advantage of it!

Recap: The weekend was pretty crappy on the balance, with mainly onshore winds. But, wave heights slowly built in size from 1-2ft Saturday morning to 3ft by Sunday afternoon. Today a much better, longer period E’ly groundswell has arrived, through the sets are inconsistent. We’re seeing 4-5ft sets at open beaches in Far Northern NSW and SE Qld, with smaller surf running down the points around the 3ft mark. Surf size is fractionally smaller across the Mid North Coast. Winds are fresh SE in general so only protected spots are clean, though there are pockets of lighter S’ly winds, even SW early morning across the Mid North Coast. 

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Nice waves at Snapper early afternoon - the pick of the entire East Coast by the looks of it

Good indication of the size pushing through Greenmount, about 2-3ft+

How d'ya like yr crowds?

Byron lining up, though not especially big

This is the best I saw at Noosa - very small and crowded

This week (Nov 21st - 24th)

So, we look like we’re close to the top of the initial swell cycle from our lovely little weather system that developed north of New Zealand last week.

As a side note, for an east swell this is about as far out as you’ll get for a long range forecast - it was first mentioned in these notes on November 3rd, 17 days ago

There’s still more energy to come, though it’ll be slightly lower period and a little smaller in size too, so wave heights will gradually ease throughout Tuesday. Sets will likely become less consistent too - this swell was generated a long way form the mainland. 

Surf size may build fractionally overnight but the easing trend on Tuesday will probably start off in the 3-5ft range across open beaches in Far Northern NSW and SE Qld, easing to 3ft+ into the afternoon. Expect slightly smaller surf running down the points, and also across the Mid North Coast.

If there were a coastline that might punch slightly above this figure, it’ll be the Ballina/Tweed coasts, because of its northern latitude (relative to the source fetch) and slightly better alignment. I wouldn’t expect much more than another foot or so at best though. 

The main problem on Tuesday will be persistent fresh SE winds. Again, we may see pockets of lighter S’ly winds but this combo will favour the same small number of sheltered points that are producing the best waves today. 

Easing size from the east will then pad out the rest of the week, and the coastal ridge will throttle back, allowing the onshore flow to also ease across Far Northern NSW and SE Qld.  We won’t see a true offshore but there’ll be slightly longer pockets of broader offshore winds in the early mornings. This should produce fun waves at most beaches. 

The only exception here is the Mid North Coast, which will be closer to a weak Tasman high and should see light variable winds from Wednesday through Friday, albeit with a chance for afternoon NE breezes at times. 

Although our E’ly swell will ease steadily through Wednesday, we won’t see flat conditions to finish the week. There are couple of regions of activity that are worth keeping an eye on - one is a small S’ly fetch adjacent New Zealand’s South Island, which feeds into a second source - a moderate ridge through the northern Tasman Sea. This will maintain peaky waves at open beaches each day

In fact, we’re on track for a Saturday pulse in E’ly swell, from the building ridge through the northern Tasman Sea, and this may arrive on Friday afternoon. I’ll firm up the timing in Wednesday’s update. 

This weekend (Nov 25th - 26th)

We’ve got some mid-range E’ly swell inbound for the weekend.

A building ridge through the north-eastern Tasman Sea from Wednesday night onwards is expected to retrograde westwards into Thursday, and although not terribly strong, will produce some fun surf for Saturday around the 2-3ft+ range across most coasts. Wave heights should persist through Sunday of a similar size as the fetch stretches back out into the South Pacific.

It’s worth nothing that an E’ly dip at the head of the fetch has been going through a significant upgrade/downgrade cycle over the last few days in what’s quite a dynamic atmospheric environment, so we’ll need to keep a watch on this as well.

A small trough along the Queensland coast will create tricky winds over the weekend; likely SE on Saturday north of the border but more E’ly south to the Mid North Coast. As the ridge draws closer to the mainland on Sunday we may see a more general E’ly flow across the coast though it doesn’t look like there’ll be much strength in it - enough to cause a few bumps but not a dramatic deterioration.

Next week (Nov 27th onwards)

Our southern swell window has been a little inactive of late, and the long term guidance suggests more of the same.

However, I’ll be keeping an eye on a small trough developing SE of Tasmania around Friday. It doesn’t look like much right now (likely to favour Tasmania more so than anywhere else) but could be the source of a small S/SE swell across Northern NSW on Monday

Otherwise, we’re looking at a semi-stationary ridge through the Northern Tasman Sea that’ll supply a lengthy period of fun trade swell for all coasts next week and into the following weekend, hovering either size of 3ft at the open beaches. This ridge may also become the catalyst for further troughy systems that could spin up into more significant swell producers. More on this in Wednesday’s update. 

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thermalben Monday, 20 Nov 2017 at 4:27pm

Long periods of this happening at Noosa. 

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Blowin Monday, 20 Nov 2017 at 4:42pm

Long periods ?

Must be at least 15 years since Noosa hasn't looked like that . What do you reckon ?

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thermalben Monday, 20 Nov 2017 at 4:59pm

Touché.

Of course, I meant in addition to being small, it’s bloody inconsistent too.

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dromodreamer Monday, 20 Nov 2017 at 6:03pm

And the only way to avoid it is get swept 2 Kay's out to sea, which is typical of long period east swells on the open beaches...you can't buy a drop in.

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spidermonkey Monday, 20 Nov 2017 at 7:36pm

All the action at Noosa today was in the car park..leave yer board at home and go down watch the fun! Some mighty cranky,frustrated punters around

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thermalben Tuesday, 21 Nov 2017 at 8:50am

Shame about the glare, but this is a decent set at Burleigh.

And Noosa. I know it's high tide, but I honestly feel a little sad seeing this.

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Cacadajy Tuesday, 21 Nov 2017 at 11:14am

I was there for the Oct14 to18 S/E blow.

Surf was pretty good on the right tide with a few 3ft+ bombs at Boiling. 17th & 18th had some nice size.

But it was such a sad thing to watch. Every decent wave ridden was slalom surfing. Almost every decent section was missed because the poor guy riding was so busy avoiding mals paddling for the shoulder or guys that bailed their board getting under the previous wave. It was heartbreaking to sit on the rocks watching decent waves at NOOSA being ridden by competent, skilled guys go to waste simply because of the crowd and it's make up.

I counted 72 out at BP at about 7:30 on one of the good mornings with a line up at the jump off spot of more going out.

Sitting on the rocks watching the carnage had me contemplating if the day will come when numbers in the line up are limited and you have to pay for your 1 hour session. Especially at a place like Noosa.

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Blowin Tuesday, 21 Nov 2017 at 11:26am

And yet a few days ago, not that far from there I was riding a sand bottomed right point at 2-3 ft PRAYING someone - anyone - would paddle out with me.

It might not have ran as far as Snapper or been as hollow as Kirra , but it was warm water with zippy down the line sections and rides 50 metres long.

Doesn't sound that far , does it ?

But I'll guarantee that the total distance I rode that day would be greater than any 6 of those out Noosa today .

My point ?

Find your own point !

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fitzroy-21 Tuesday, 21 Nov 2017 at 11:55am

Would I be far off the mark if I said you would be happy for a cowboy to join you at this point Blowin?

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Blowin Tuesday, 21 Nov 2017 at 12:04pm

Probably the hardest I've ever laughed in my life was when I'd had an acid tab with a mate and we were creeping slowly around the back streets in his car. He accidentally drove down a One way street and an irate motorist yelled at him " You're going the wrong way you fucking moron. Didn't you see the arrows ? "

My mate replied " Arrows ? I didnt even see the Indians !"

Yeah.....I guess you had to be there.

Spot on , Fitzy.

Have you partaken of the fun at this location ?

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fitzroy-21 Tuesday, 21 Nov 2017 at 3:38pm

From time to time, the sand was well lined up about a month ago.

Funny story too btw :)

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Blowin Tuesday, 21 Nov 2017 at 7:13pm

Just checked out the map and realised that it's just North of ol' Geronimo.

Was a big time. The crew I went with don't like the beach, the ocean or camping , so I was a bit surprised when they suggested we check it out.

Fuckers love a drink.

Was like "Wake in fright ....in a swag "

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Nick Bone Tuesday, 21 Nov 2017 at 7:59pm

I know spots

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Nick Bone Tuesday, 21 Nov 2017 at 7:59pm

I know spots

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Blowin Tuesday, 21 Nov 2017 at 8:05pm

I thought I knew boats till I rolled my tinny in the shorey.

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Cacadajy Tuesday, 21 Nov 2017 at 11:41am

On that wind and swell "event" there were almost zero options.
Apart from some below water level sand dredgers that were fun just a hop skip and jump away. The sweep was horrid though.

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Cacadajy Tuesday, 21 Nov 2017 at 12:09pm

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davetherave Tuesday, 21 Nov 2017 at 12:19pm

Blowin, that's legendary. Indians, what Indians?? Good spot you refer to, love it there but mozzies gave me a good touch up when I was camping nearby.

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Blowin Tuesday, 21 Nov 2017 at 12:28pm

Im still covered in calamine lotion.

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Distracted Tuesday, 21 Nov 2017 at 7:05pm

Last time I was there spent a couple hours just watching the men in grey suits cruising up and down the gutters.

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freeride76 Tuesday, 21 Nov 2017 at 7:39pm

Ever chased those baby blacks on the flats on the Wathumba side Fitzy?

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fitzroy-21 Wednesday, 22 Nov 2017 at 7:31am

Hey FR, about 5 years ago I took a keen fly fisho chasing them there, certainly was a fun day and opened my eyes.

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Blowin Wednesday, 22 Nov 2017 at 10:25am

Cue the least socially acceptable joke this side of the one about the Scout leader that suffered from hyperhidrosis.