Southerly gales and large building swells, ideal for protected locations

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

South-east Queensland and Northern NSW Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Wednesday 3rd August)

Best Days: Thurs/Fri/Sat: strong S/SE swells with S'ly gales, best suited to protected points. Get yr paddling arms on! Sun: renewal of strong S/SE groundswell with light variable winds. Mon: easing S/SE swell with light offshore winds. 

Recap: Tuesday delievered tiny residual swells across SE Qld with small, fading south swell south of Byron. Today we’ve seen some wild conditions across the Mid North Coast thanks to a developing low pressure system, with southerly winds gusting 49kts at Coffs Harbour a short time ago. However, as discussed on Monday’s notes, winds are westerly to the north of the low’s axis, which appears to be somewhere between Coffs and Yamba (the latter of which still has fresh W’ly winds). As such, with the low positioned a hundred-odd kilometres further south than Monday’s models suggested (I wrote "it appears the axis will lie somewhere between Yamba and Ballina”), the focus of the biggest waves is also a little further south. Ballina has seen an increase in size late this afternoon with 3-4ft sets and not much happening north of here - however surf size is maxing across the Mid North Coast with stormy 6-8ft sets under southerly gales. Therefore, there’s probably a region (somewhere around Yamba?) that’s seeing larger 4-6ft surf with fresh westerly winds, though this had yet to be verified at the time these notes were prepared.

This week (Thursday 4th - Friday 5th August)

Thursday is all about the strength of the southerly wind: we’re looking at 30-40kts+ at exposed coasts, and 20-30kts elsewhere as the low tracks north of the border.

Some northern locations - such as the Sunshine Coast, and to a much lesser extent the Gold Coast - may see a brief period of SW winds close to dawn but shortly after that we’ll kick off a blustery day out of the south.

Surf size will increase rapidly in the wake of the low, originating from several sources, the most prominent being the short range S/SE fetch around the immediate low. We’re looking at very large stormy waves for south facing beaches in Northern NSW (8-10ft or so), with even the Gold and Sunshine Coast’s open beaches picking up a lot of size by the afternoon - probably somewhere around 4-6ft across the outer points, with larger surf at exposed northern ends and south facing beaches upwards of 6ft+. A peak in size is expected through the afternoon, with smaller surf in the morning - most evident across SE Qld which will see a later onset of building swells compared to southern locations (which should already be quite sizeable from dawn).

Obviously, under these winds there’ll only be a handful of protected locations that will be surfable, and they’ll be smaller in size owing to the strong southerly component in the swell direction. As such keep in mind that sheltered inner points such as Noosa will be a fraction of the size of the exposed stretches. 

On Friday, winds should ease from gale-to-storm-force, to strong-to-gale-force S/SE, and although we’ll see the short range swell source ease back, there’ll be plenty of underlying S/SE swell (from a supporting ridge across the western Tasman), and a small low developing off the SW tip of New Zealand’s South Island today. This will create a tertiary SE swell though to be honest it’ll be hard to discern within the mix.

As such we’re looking at a similar day only suited to protected points, where SE Qld will undoubtable fare the best. Exposed south facing beaches south of Byron could still very well be somewhere north of 6ft and as high as 8ft, but north of the border surf size should settle down to 5-6ft at exposed south facing beaches in SE Qld, and 4-5ft across the outer points.

Again, thanks to the strong southerly component in the swell direction we’ll be looking at small clean surf across the sheltered inner points such as Noosa. 

This weekend (Saturday 6th - Sunday 7th August)

We’ve got plenty of waves due this weekend.

Surf size and wind strength will ease steadily through Saturday, though with the ridge still persisting about the coastal margin - albeit in a weakened state - we’ll remain under a southerly regime (maybe SW early). This means that protected locations will continue to provide the best surf, and the outer SE Qld points should be the pick of the coast. 

Expect 5-6ft+ surf across south facing beaches south of Byron (smaller elsewhere) in the morning, easing during the day, with 3-4ft surf across the SE Qld outer points and beaches, up to 4-5ft at exposed northern ends (though they’ll be wind affected still). Smaller surf will then prevail into the afternoon.

On Sunday, a new S/SE groundswell is expected to move into the region, originating from a polar low that’s modelled to track in a straight meridional alignment through the central/eastern lower Tasman Sea later Thursday.

The models have slowed down its forward speed and slightly reigned in the fetch strength since Monday’s model runs, but it’s still on track to provide a solid day of surf across Northern NSW in the 5-6ft range at south facing beaches, with 3-5ft surf at remaining open beaches and smaller waves across protected southern ends. 

In SE Qld, this swell won’t result in quite the same amount of size however there should still be more than enough to get the outer points up and running with sets around 3ft+. Exposed northern ends and south facing beaches north of the border will see bigger waves in the 3-5ft range. The only point of concern here is the timing of this swell; it may not be in the water at first light. So if you're looking to capitalise on this north of thr border (especially trhe Sunshine Coast) then aim for an afternoon paddle. I'll firm up the timing specifics in Friday's notes. 

Fortunately, Sunday’s conditions are looking pretty good overall with mainly light variable winds. Open stretches (esp. in Northern NSW) are likely to retain some lumpiness from the previous few days of southerlies, but the points should all iron out the bumps reasonably well. 

Either way - there’s plenty of surf on the way for the weekend. 

Next week (Monday 8th August onwards)

Lots of models manoeuvrings over the last few days, with a few interesting systems popping up for next week. 

Monday's looking very good with light offshore winds and slowly easing S/SE swell across the region. It'll become small across SE Qld during the day but Northern NSW should still be quite solid, especially in the morning. 

Looking further ahead, and at this stage the touted tropical developments in our eastern swell window have been scaled back - we may see a small east swell arriving later next week and into the weekend, but it’s not looking particularly significant at this stage. 

Otherwise, there’s now a suggestion for a small to moderate SE swell off another meridionally aligned polar low through the Tasman Sea (arriving across Northern NSW mid-week), that could evolve into a slow moving trough with potential for a long lived source of SE swell through the second half of the week and next weekend too.

More on that in Friday’s update. 

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thermalben Wednesday, 3 Aug 2016 at 5:49pm

Winds gone from the W to the W/NW in Yamba, barometer steady. The S'ly change can't be far off now.

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mcsc Wednesday, 3 Aug 2016 at 6:30pm

Stoked to hear waves finally on the way for the sunny coast, even if the winds limit options

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freeride76 Wednesday, 3 Aug 2016 at 6:53pm

Interesting...still W'ly here.
I fished Suicides at Cape Byron, one of , if not the most exposed rock ledge in NSW, this afternoon. Surf crept up slowly in the afternoon but was still flat at the Point when I got home on dark.

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shoulabeenhereyesti Wednesday, 3 Aug 2016 at 8:16pm

30 knt south breeze im hitting pebbly beach and a certin ocean pool in the morning nice dry rubber ready to go.

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Simmster Wednesday, 3 Aug 2016 at 8:19pm

Hey Ben what is the likelihood of clean conditions for northern sunny coast open beaches early tomorrow morning?

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thermalben Wednesday, 3 Aug 2016 at 8:24pm

Pretty low chance. Best option would be to watch obs further south overnight.

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Simmster Wednesday, 3 Aug 2016 at 9:44pm

Bummer... I'll keep an eye on them

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shoulabeenhereyesti Wednesday, 3 Aug 2016 at 8:46pm

Got a few days off an stayin in the 2428 region looking good here yahoo

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freeride76 Wednesday, 3 Aug 2016 at 8:55pm

just fished the dropping barometer at the Point. Noticeable increase in swell energy hitting the point, fairly solid whitewater walls.
Lightning in the approaching cloud front from the south looked cool.
Lots of energy around.

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thermalben Wednesday, 3 Aug 2016 at 9:21pm

Yamba gusting 62kts S/SE twenty minutes ago (115km/hr). Wouldn't be surprised if this is a local wind gust record. 

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AndyM Wednesday, 3 Aug 2016 at 11:07pm

Wow, that's fairly honking Ben.

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freeride76 Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 7:30am

wild night but the surf is surprisingly small right now.

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thermalben Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 7:54am

Wow, that is surprising. It's massive (relatively speaking) on the Tweed, somewhere north of 6ft and possibly up near 8ft, breaking a hundred metres or more out past the usual zones.

The most amazing feature was the sweep. Would have to have been running at ten knots, I haven't seen anything like it before. An absolute torrent of water moving up the coast.


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Craig Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 8:01am

Good for sand transport!

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thermalben Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 8:16am

Even more interesting - the Sunny Coast seems to be almost flat this morning.

It's amazing how wave heights can vary over such small distances with these localised weather systems. There's no doubt it'll build during the day but SC surfers must be shaking their heads this AM at how big it is on the Tweed (and even the Goldy) compared to the Sunny Coast.

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Sprout Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 8:55am

Thought there'd be something to surf this morning, literally lapping at the shore at 6am, took the dog for a run instead.

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simba Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 5:45pm

Ben, years ago remember going from Angas which was dead flat up to Trestles/Ballina which was a smokin 4-5ft east se swell,got back home at Angas and was still flat....all day....weird eh...i know Ballina picks up more swell but an east se swell i would've thought would make it a 100ks or less south .

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freeride76 Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 9:50am

it's built through the morning , but still a bit underwhelming. Maybe in the 6ft range but short period windswell with a ton of longshore drift.

Bye bye banks though, all gone.

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thermalben Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 10:15am

Nice lines at Burleigh.

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Tim Tam Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 2:24pm

Just surfed the cooly stretch. Lucky to be three foot on the sets and inconsistent to boot

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linez Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 6:38pm

Any sweep tt?

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Tim Tam Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 8:02pm

A bit once you get past big groyne

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yocal Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 2:46pm

didn't even look at this thurs/fri for wave options... but the weekend...

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udo Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 3:28pm

Damn jet skis again at snapper.

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AndyM Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 6:19pm

At 3 ft??

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freeride76 Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 6:12pm

anything on the Sunny Coast yet?

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curly2alex Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 7:00pm

Nah, will be shit all weekend.
Snapper will be all time...get down there everybody

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waxyfeet Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 7:34pm

Noosa here we come!

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_benno Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 7:51pm

Yep. Will be a waste of time on the Sunny Hoax. Still small.

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waxyfeet Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 9:26pm

still getting up tomorrow at sparrow's fart to check it out ;)

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dromodreamer Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 10:32pm

Well here is hoping the sweep reaches Noosa, watch how many people take tomorrow off and go surf it, do they read this report- It WILL BE 2ft. Then to top it all off it's the weekend warriors turn the next day too. Love the alex cam btw. I can finally know when my mythical wave breaks( only on the right bit of the tide). Yew.

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dromodreamer Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 10:38pm

Been meaning to ask Ben, is the water temp in Sydney actually a lot warmer then us at the moment- Why oh Why must it be this way?

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dromodreamer Thursday, 4 Aug 2016 at 10:41pm

My apologies to FR as well, I put a curse on us by saying didn't care if it busted the banks- we got no waves!

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lostdoggy Friday, 5 Aug 2016 at 7:33am

Doesn't look like much getting passed snapper by the look of the cams this morn.

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thermalben Friday, 5 Aug 2016 at 9:00am

Stoked with the new surfcam at Alex Headland. I'll set up the "tour" (zooming in and out etc) over the weekend. But the broad overview really lets you know what the swell is doing.


This swell's been a bit of a fizzer though. Some nice waves on the Gold Coast points but not as much size on the Sunny Coast as expected. Was another solid washing machine on the Tweed Coast this morning but nowhere really to surf.

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curly2alex Friday, 5 Aug 2016 at 10:15am

Yes...now the whole world can see what a bunch of goats the longboarders are out the bluff, dropping in and unable to do turns(when it's under 4 foot of coarse). If its over 4 foot they can be seen in the peanut gallery......watching.

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freeride76 Friday, 5 Aug 2016 at 10:13am

Another bizarre surf report for Ballina this morning.

7/10 with clean waves on the Points.??????

Reality is no-one out with messy, lumpy brown water 3-4ft. 3/10 at best.

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lostdoggy Friday, 5 Aug 2016 at 12:18pm

Looks like there's more sand down the point now FR. Might have fucked the top section in the process but, along with all the open beachies.
Have to wait for a bit less junk to gauge it though.

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saltman Friday, 5 Aug 2016 at 12:23pm

a bit underwhelmed by this event. snapper was pretty average this morning
Size Looks to have peaked yesterday and dropping rapidly

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no-eye-deer Friday, 5 Aug 2016 at 6:05pm

Surfed out front of the Swellnet office this morning for a couple of hours (Hi Ben!). Was a lot of effort paddling against the sweep for not much reward, but a least got a couple of fun ones.

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thermalben Friday, 5 Aug 2016 at 6:09pm

Ha! Saw a few crew out during the day but I wasn't interested in a fitness paddle. 

New forecaster notes here: 
https://www.swellnet.com/reports/forecaster-notes/south-east-queensland-...