Wild, wet and wooly ahead of a sizeable, improving weekend of waves

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

South East Queensland and Northern New South Wales Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Wednesday 29th April)

Best Days: Sat: Large peak in E'ly swell with winds eventually swinging offshore across SE Qld (and maybe Far Northern NSW). Sun: strong but slowly easing E'ly swell with a broader coverage of offshore winds. Mon/Tues: leftover E'ly swell with mainly light winds. Wed: new S'ly swell. Next Thurs/Fri/Sat: another strong E'ly groundswell. 

Recap: There’s been no shortage of E’ly groundswell for the last few days (biggest on the Sunny Coast) with a small to moderate southerly swell across south facing beaches in Northern NSW. The south swell is however easing and the east swell will begin abating from tonight. 

This week (Apr 30 - May 1)

The east swell that’s graced our shores for the last few days will trend down through Thursday, and with our recent south swell also easing we’ll be looking towards new sources. 

Fortunately, swell will not be in short supply over the coming days. The big problem we have are local winds, and weather (specifically, rainfall totals). A trough is expected to deepen along the North Coast, eventually spinning up a surface low (probably an East Coast Low) during Friday. As this occurs, easterly winds will strengthen about all coasts - although the Mid North Coast will see a delayed onset of strong winds (and the associated swell increase).

Therefore, there’s not much positive news to glean from the current short term synoptic outlook. The development of this trough and low has been somewhat stalled since Monday’s model runs, suggesting we’ll see a peak in size across most areas on Saturday (with concurrent onshore winds). However, the models often failed to accurately resolve the local wind field across the coastal margin, and there’s currently a few solutions offering microscale features that could result in pockets of favourable winds at various points on Friday

Nevertheless, the broad outlook is for a small start on Thursday, ahead of a steady upwards trend from the afternoon through into Friday, whereby we could be looking at stormy 6-8ft surf at exposed beaches between the Sunshine Coast and Yamba by the end of the day. A delay in this trend is likely across locations south of about Yamba but late Friday will still be pretty chunky and horrible regardless (perhaps just a few feet smaller than further north).

I’ll keep an eye on local conditions through Thursday and will update in the comments below if there are any obvious signs of favourable winds through Friday. But if you have to hedge your bets right now, I’d expect surface conditions to be hovering towards the bottom end of the quality scale, unless you have access to a particularly well sheltered point that’s accessible in near-torrential rain.

This weekend (May 2 - 3)

So, as this trough/low slides southwards, conditions will rapidly improve. First on the Sunshine Coast (early Saturday), then the Gold Coast, and so on as we traverse along the Northern NSW Coast. This ‘improvement’ probably won’t happen until sometime Sunday morning across the Mid North Coast. The most likely scenario will be a wind shift from the east to the south, then the southwest (probably within a few hours).

Surf wise, we’re looking at a peak in size broadly around the time the winds swing. This means if you plan on capitalising on the size from this swell, you’ll need to watch the local obs closely as wave heights will trend down steadily thereafter. As per the delayed ‘improvement’ in conditions across the Mid North Coast, this also means that we’ll see larger waves persisting here for longer too (i.e. all weekend).

How big? Exposed spots should see easy 6-8ft+ surf at the height of the swell on Saturday. But I’m not sure how quickly conditions will improve, and what time of day it’ll occur on Saturday (in SE Qld and Far Northern NSW). Sunday looks to be the safest bet overall with winds tending offshore just about everywhere (except the Mid North Coast early morning). However despite the easing trend there should still be a good 4-5ft across the Gold and Sunshine Coasts in the morning. 

By Friday we should have a firmer indication as to the weekend’s trend, including the timing of the wind change (which is really the main point of interest right now). I’ll update these thoughts then.

Next week (May 4 onwards)

Sunday’s swell event will continue a slow easing trend into Monday. Fortunately, a broad fetch trailing out into the South Pacific will ensure plenty of residual E’ly swell for the following days, albeit smaller in size.

In fact, as was suggested in Monday’s notes, we’re looking at restrengthening of the trades (E/SE of New Caledonia) around Tuesday, possibly with an embedded tropical low (that'd supercharge the fetch, on top of an existing active sea state).

If this comes off - and the models have been reasonably consistent for the last few days on this - we should see a bigger pulse of E’ly swell later next week (Thursday/Friday). This could generate anywhere between 4ft and maybe 6ft of quality groundswell for exposed coasts, and the latest model runs have a ridge concurrently building through the Coral Sea, meaning freshening S/SE winds (read: great waves for the points).

Otherwise, the passage of the LWT over south-eastern Australia will create several southerly swell events for exposed south facing beaches in Northern NSW. The first is due around Wednesday, extending from a front exiting eastern Bass Strait on Tuesday, however a more long-lived series of swells are expected later in the week and into next weekend, as broader fronts push south of Tasmania.

Either way next week has a wide range of swells on tap so there should be no shortage of surf to pick and choose from. See you Friday!

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Cylinders85 Wednesday, 29 Apr 2015 at 8:21pm

Haven't got to many sicke left.

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no-eye-deer Wednesday, 29 Apr 2015 at 9:14pm

I fear I'm about to say bye bye to a few of my favourite local banks.

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thermalben Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 5:17am

Not necessarily. Southern NSW saw a much bigger storm swell off the last ECL (15ft+ at some stretches) and the same concerns were expressed down here (as the banks had been OK for the previous few weeks). However, as soon as the swell subsided the banks were primo almost everywhere - best I've seen in a long time.

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donweather Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 6:29am

I think the underlying base material (ie rock) in southern NSW has assisted somewhat in avoiding the usual stormbar setup. SE QLD doesn't have this IMO at most locations so it's goodnight Irene for late Autumn/winter banks in SE QLD IMO.

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freeride76 Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 7:13am

yep, very different set-ups as far as sand transport and storm bar formation goes between south and north NSW and SEQLD.

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thermalben Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 7:37am

Sure, no disagreements there. But the general consensus prior to last week's ECL was that it was going to 'screw the banks', based on previous events (it's certainly what I was expecting). But the opposite occurred. So, I don't think it's 100% guaranteed.

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davetherave Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 8:06am

yes, until we see where this system forms and spins and maybe stalls, I think too early to be downcast. If it swings in from the north then stalls off the goldie i think it will be a great sandmover and we will see some good banks formed, while others will be shifted, but combining this with Bens comment on a large easterly swell afterwards it will either fix sandbanks up or straighten the sand up. Lets all put our surfing passions into this system creating great waves for lots of people in lots of places, go buy an umbrella or a drizabone though.

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wellymon Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 8:41am

"unless you have access to a particularly well sheltered point that’s accessible in near-torrential rain."

Whoa whoa, thats all good you need a key for the gate in any hoo. Farmer old mate gets pretty protected on his land as well;)

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thermalben Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 9:28am

Actually, that comment wasn't a cryptic clue for somewhere in particular - it was more just a generalised reference to the likely weather (models forecasting rain totals of 350mm for some regions!).

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wellymon Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 9:44am

Yeah I know Ben, just keeping people guessing.
Its pissing down here in the hills as we speak.
Cheers for the forecast, another interesting weather pattern.

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donweather Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 12:19pm

Tell me about it. I've got 15 other blokes heading off with me on our annual surfari this coming Sat and they're wondering if we're gonna need a boat to get there!!!!

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wellymon Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 3:55pm

15 blokes and 2 boats DW..;)
Great times ahead.

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udo Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 4:01pm

15 blokes on a annual surf safari.....that's Brazzo mentality

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wellymon Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 4:34pm

GFS brain explosion.

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Samba Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 10:20am

Just want to say thanks heaps for these notes. I've been reading them for the past month or so and its rapidly improved my knowledge of conditions/anticipating future conditions and thereby increased my strike rate for surfing in good conditions. Cheers big ears!!!!

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thermalben Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 10:31am

Thanks mate - glad you enjoy 'em.

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Cylinders85 Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 12:40pm

the sheepdog has been a bit quite with his 2 cents worth on this system.

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Sheepdog Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 7:32pm

Yeah did briefly mention it on tues, cyl, plus a potential tradeswell next week...... I generally only throw my 2 cents in re' obscure swells that the models under or over cook like last week, or long term stuff.... Pointless jumping in when Ben has the prognosis pretty spot on.....
The only thing I doubt is 6 to 8 foot on the sunny coast......6 foot stormy yeah.... But expect more size the further south you go.... This set up looks interesting for east coast tassie, too.....

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wellymon Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 8:52pm

Was gonna say the same thing Cyl, but Sheepio beat me too it;)
He loves the stuff way out past and NE of that wooly island.
Course all dawgs do.

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thermalben Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 2:08pm

Hmmm.. the BOM's got (for SE Qld Fri/Sat):

"Deceptively powerful surf conditions are expected to be hazardous for coastal activities such as crossing bars by boat and rock fishing."

I don't think it'll be 'deceptively powerful' in any way shape or form. Looks to me like they're automating a warning phrase for distant groundswell events (i.e. as seen Mon/Tues/Wed this week). But the context is much different this time 'round. 

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thermalben Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 2:09pm

And how's this for a confusing swell forecast? That's what happens when you've got an non-QC'd system punching out automated phrases:

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Sheepdog Friday, 1 May 2015 at 10:45am

You could be spot on with your stormy 6 to 8ft call, ben.... Formed off Fraser..... Absolute muck.....

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donweather Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 3:38pm

WOW!!! Massive, massive turn around with the latest GFS (00z) model with respect to this low/weather/rainfall forecasts.

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gibbsy Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 4:54pm

Winds looking better, earlier, the further north you are it looks like. Am i just seeing things?

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Cylinders85 Friday, 1 May 2015 at 6:13am

a few still out at snapper this morning.

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thermalben Friday, 1 May 2015 at 7:06am

Our Byron surfcam captured the bommie in the middle of the Bay with a fun peak breaking top to bottom - does anyone ever surf it?

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SpotOh Friday, 1 May 2015 at 7:27am

I think KiKi "le basque" (french basque) has surf it!! he has surf everything... (except mummy)

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Cylinders85 Friday, 1 May 2015 at 7:29am

nice, Everyone's saving there paddling arms for the weekend I think.

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freeride76 Friday, 1 May 2015 at 7:54am

It backs off very quickly that bommie. Good bait reef for holding tuna though.

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Cylinders85 Friday, 1 May 2015 at 10:31am

Alot off paddling going on at noosa.

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Sheepdog Friday, 1 May 2015 at 10:42am

Looks like a dogs breakfast..... I think i'd go the xbox, call of duty, espresso machine, and an afternoon root.......

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CouplaFunOnes Friday, 1 May 2015 at 11:07am

The cam ain't lying, definitely not worth the effort today. I swear it gets worse here every swell crowd/etiquette wise. If there are this many desperate crew clogging it up today I can hardly wait to paddle out tomorrow once the weekend warriors from our fair state capital complete their invasion.

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mitchvg Friday, 1 May 2015 at 9:10pm

How about you ask your two cameraman entourage to stay at home then

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CouplaFunOnes Friday, 1 May 2015 at 9:35pm

No worries. I'm sure the 28953 gopros in the lineup will be ample to capture the highlights of my session.

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mitchvg Friday, 1 May 2015 at 9:40pm

Hahaha this is true, they are probably actually worse.

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spidermonkey Friday, 1 May 2015 at 1:54pm

i disagree,earlier today some good rides going down pot /national prk.then first point.depends on what your after.sweep kept the crowd down,good size thats rare for these parts

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thermalben Friday, 1 May 2015 at 1:59pm

Looked terrible on the cam! Surprised to hear you had a good surf. Certainly did look the biggest I've seen Noosa for quite a while though.

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spidermonkey Friday, 1 May 2015 at 2:53pm

Ohh yeah I'm down there now . pretty torn apart, was ok between 7.00 and 1000. Now not so good. still plenty trying tho . it's wild!!

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udo Friday, 1 May 2015 at 2:02pm

ABC reporting a 11 mtr wave was recorded on the Mooloolaba buoy.

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freeride76 Friday, 1 May 2015 at 2:24pm

Stormy mess down here. Looks like sand getting torn out of the points.

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50young Friday, 1 May 2015 at 2:36pm

I'm sobbing already, go on holidays the last 2 weeks of May and the banks probably won't have recovered! Here's hoping

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SpotOh Friday, 1 May 2015 at 3:15pm

Sunshine Beach must be eroded, then the sand should go to the points...
Does it make sense?

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thermalben Friday, 1 May 2015 at 3:20pm

No, it doesn't.

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SpotOh Friday, 1 May 2015 at 3:27pm

:-)
where is it going then?

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Cylinders85 Friday, 1 May 2015 at 3:32pm

haha just seen a group trying to paddle out at snapper didnt get to far.

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donweather Friday, 1 May 2015 at 5:55pm

Seriously flash flooding in Brisbane at the moment.

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thermalben Friday, 1 May 2015 at 6:28pm

Rainfall totals are off the hook.

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Cylinders85 Friday, 1 May 2015 at 7:57pm

were Can you check wave buoys ?

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donweather Friday, 1 May 2015 at 8:31pm
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Cylinders85 Saturday, 2 May 2015 at 5:07am

Thanks Don.