Sunshine Coast Wavepool to become the new Hyatt Coolum, says Andrew Stark
In a weekend article, World Surf League Australia boss Andrew Stark compared the proposed Sunshine Coast wavepool to the down-at-heel Hyatt Coolum.
The Sunshine Coast Daily stated: "The man behind a $1.1 billion surf ranch and residential development says it can ultimately replace the now-defunct but once-popular Hyatt Coolum resort."
The Hyatt Coolum Resort was bought by Clive Palmer in 2011 but today it's a faded and dilapidated version of a luxury resort; weeds sprout from cracked concrete and the central swimming pool is reduced to a swamp.
Owners of villas in the resort, which has beachfront access and its own private golf course, last year told the New Daily they were hoodwinked by Palmer.
Meanwhile, Stark has gone on the offensive telling the media - in this case his own website - the project will rescue the local economy:
“We are facing a construction cliff – we are at risk of no new projects being approved or delivered on the Sunshine Coast which will have significant impact on the region."
“Local jobs are at risk, and the uncertainty created by COVID-19 means we do not know how long it will take for things to return to the way they were."
The project links the WSL with Consolidated Properties Group and Hutchinson Builders, the businesses who built the High Performance Centre (HPC) at Casuarina with associated residential housing. Stark, who was then at the helm of Surfing Australia, was the architect of that project. Surf Ranch Sunshine Coast replicates the HPC model - buying vacant land, sourcing investment for a sports facility while selling surrounding house and land packages - albeit with the WSL this time.
The proposed site is a 510 hectare parcel of wetland at Yandina Coolum Road. The WSL stated a, "shared commitment to unlocking this site’s benefits for the community".
Read more, including FAQs, at the website for Surf Ranch Sunshine Coast.
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Oh. F@ck. Construction is the cure-all for Post-COVID Syndrome! First this, next Adani! Better call Tyler's Neuro-Orthopaedic-Naturopathic (NON) surgeon!
TBB are you out there?
I work and live in Coolum and just about everyone who lives here, be it a long time local or recently moved here don't want it. Generally when you talked to people face to face in the community it seems like a more honest answer.
Like Sekisui, most of the locals dont want it but they keep harping like the community needs it.
I second that.
Including the every tradie in the area. It's a scam for the wsl to try and make money on the dead wavepool model.
Of all the wavepool technology available, why would you choose one which has been panned by the surfing public who can't afford to surf it for less than $50000 a day with 8 people and at most 4 waves each? We don't want to watch it when there is a comp on, The judges can't come up with a process that rates the surfers fairly, (look at where Kelly placed compared to some of the performances 'below' him). Let alone the damage to a delicate wetland. Oh, but they're enviro-friendly. Sorry, I forgot.
At the moment, it sounds like they are trying to take advantage of the next round of stimulus money being made available because no investors are interested.
As if this is affordable for our ecosystem!!
The "man" must come from Nantucket....
Stark you complete and utter fuckwit.
Sekisui appeal rejected too.
GC Mk.2 selling now!
Stark and Clive both fuckwits
I see no negatives about the Surf Ranch Sunshine Coast.
gsco with all politeness you need corrective eyewear
Me neither, i checked out the location and know the area well use to drive through there a bit and go out and see Clayton of Utopia palms Surfer/Palm collector, people here seem to be indicating its a wetland, assuming the website google map location is correct, its not, its farmland on a flood type plane.
It's basically just another development on the Sunny coast, and if it's anything like the other wave pool expect will have green space etc which will mean much more tasteful than most development on the Sunny Coast (i still go up there now and then as my parents live there)
Just look left while driving north along the Sunshine Motorway in behind Coolum.
It's mostly old sugarcane farming land with some natural habitat on the southwest and south borders along the Maroochy River, which I'd hope they preserve and manage appropriately.
If done well I think the Surf Ranch could aesthetically, environmentally and economically enhance the area and do something productive once again with the currently neglected land.
How? It serves a purpose absorbing the runoff from the flooding Maroochy RIver Catchment Area. How is a development in an area known as a 'flood plain' going to work out when it is flooded? Would you like to live in a sustainable development on a flood plain? You're looking at living with another 40000-50000 other people out there, in houses going for around 700k+.
I don't know about you, but given the choice, I'd be going to the developments a bit further south, (near Caloundra), that are probably not going to be as mouldy or full of mosquitoes for my dollars.
With current development plans, Sunshine coast projected to double in population between 2021 and 2041.
Covid slowed nothing.
It is on! That's why local coolum surf dads are training their kids to burn all non locals.
Oh, edit that. There will be twice as many locals. So, I guess for kids, they'll have to attach themselves to some aging local legend to be granted waves... in exchange for burning lower class surfers, and creating a buffer zone for those older elites to pick off the best waves.
Nah, that'd never happen.
Hi Stu,
The term "unproductive wetland" should be dropped from the article please. In respect to all the creatures that call it home for now. Thanks.
Next time you're in there, can you let the creatures know that I was being ironic?
Cheers mate!
well played!
StuNet I will not converse with the inhabitants on your behalf just yet, merely continue my own banter with the locals there
Wow. Turning a wetlands into a high end wanker retreat using Palmer's fucked up resort as an example.
This type of development is straight out of the USA dystopia handbook. An exclusive subdivision with a wave pool while the rest of the population can fend for themselves. It's Bushwood Country Club for surfers, and the worst thing is, they pretend that they are helping out the locals with this fabulous opportunity. The WSL is a fucking joke.
Well based on the past few months where covid has birthed the graduation of weekend warriors into fulltime hassling demi-pros I am all for a wave pool or 3 for the swell depraved Sunny Hoax. Last weekends rare breath of swell was a shoulder to shoulder gold coast-esq putrid affair. We seriously get what 10-20 good days a year up here? Bring on the wave pools I say. There needs to be a proper home for all these bloody soft tops. The proposed site is nothing more than abandoned cane floodplains - let them at it and construct a few wetlands around the barrels for the frogs as well. Though on the flipside if its the WSL its likely going to be $50k a day to surf it and reserved for the uber rich and condo owners.
sunnysideup never has been and never will be any semblance of surf on sunny coast the carparks all go empty when the waves go above knee height should be planty there for you
Agreed sunnysideup, to those that oppose it, put your money where mouth is and try to stay away from it when it starts pumping wave's!
I'd like to see cost of riding it though, any ideas anyone?
The Lemoore one is US$35,000 a day.
Try and stay away, you say?
Shouldn't be a problem.
If that's price il be going to Melbourne or Yeppoon if that gets open to us bottom feeders
The problem is not the cost per day but the cost per wave.
Let's call it AU$53,000 for the day.
A)KSWP 1 Wave every five minutes = 12 waves an hour x 8 hours = 96 Waves a day =$552 a wave.
B)Urban Surf = 360 waves an hour (180 on left and 180 on the right) x 8 hours = 2,880 Waves a day = $18 a wave.
I'd imagine there would be plenty of people happy to get a group of 50 mates together and spend around a $1k each for a big day (or more likely say $500 for a half day) but to spend that on only 1 or 2 waves ridiculous,
(my estimates might be a little off - couldn't find anywhere exact waves wither produce per hour but the magnitude of the difference is about right I think.)
Kellys pool is never going to work commercially,
ps - not suggesting blowing $500 for a day is in reach of many regular surfer but those that do regular boat trip would easily spend that. Also if only a every now and then plenty would do it.
See calculations below - I had a go and reckon $552 a wave. Don't be falling off now or blowing the take off !
"Though on the flipside if its the WSL its likely going to be $50k a day to surf it and reserved for the uber rich and condo owners."
This point exactly and it nullfies all else in your comment.
Never let a good crisis go to waste...
Have i missed something?
Whats the issue here?
Just another development on the sunny coast, i just looked on the website google map location, i know that area well, as you can see on google maps satellite pics it's farmland, not native bush or wetland (which that other wave pool up that way looks like it might have been built on?)
I worked for years on the Sunny coast in the construction industry the development going on or happened is huge and mostly was wetland type areas being drained with canals etc (all that area from Caloundra up to Maroochydore on the west side of Nickolon way from memory that the name of that main road)
Indo, I visited the site last November, and walked around on it, as much as I could.
I was very surprised. It's not degraded farmland at all, like I was led to believe by the developer.
It's pretty much all regrown native bush and wetland. Fairly impressive. Lots of diverse native habitat.
It's not the wave pool so much that bugs me, even though draining the Maroochy river for it is pretty bogus.
It's the big fuck off 80's canal estate development that is accompanying that's on the nose.
Thats shit that should have been left behind in the last century.
the wave pool is just a Trojan horse to get this massive development on constrained floodplain through.
it's crook.
Agree 100%.
This is white shoe development with a faint whiff of beach appeal.
Okay i didnt see this, this shows the area, much bigger than i expected, google map location was a bit misleading https://www.surfranchsunshinecoast.com.au/location/
So it's all just another housing development on the Sunny Coast with a wave pool, if it didn't have a wave pool or Kelly's name, it wouldn't even get a mention here, reality is if it's zoned to allow housing or can be it will end up with houses.
And if they do what they say, this will surely be better than what anyone else would do environmentally https://www.surfranchsunshinecoast.com.au/environment/
Ummm just one small question , where are they draining the Maroochy to ? Last I checked all that water heads out to sea ?
they're are pumping it into a massive wave pool which will see huge evaporation rates in summer months,
that's river water no longer available for the things that live in the river.
make sense?
so water doesn't also evaporate from rivers, lakes, the ocean...etc...?
yes it does, but it evaporates far more from large shallow areas, like wave-pools, compared to running, vegetated river banks.
Far, far more.
Not sure how long you've been on the sunny coast for, but what do you think will happen there next time there is a major flood?
right now, half the site is regularly inundated just from tidal flooding.
born here 45 years ago and I've seen it all.. I still see no negatives to the community, environment or the economy from the Surf Ranch, only positives.
I am however quite new to these swellnet forums, and I'm a bit taken aback by the sheer amount of negativity and misinformation in here.
what misinformation are you seeing here?
Mate, if you don't see any negatives from a massive canal estate going into floodplain that might say more about your values than what people are writing here.
But fair enough if you see only positives.
I note you didn't answer my question about what happens to the site when there is a major flood.
forgive me if I'm off base here, but it's just a tiny bit suss when someone new pops up just at this time with no posting history to help spruce a massive development that is going to need community consent to get it across the line.
I wish I didn't have to think that way, but unfortunately I do.
Half the Coast actually is a massive canal development built into floodplains..
yes and no.
that don't make it right.
Btw the most blatant piece of misinformation in here is Stu posting a big ugly mugshot of QLD's most hated politician and somehow trying to associate the Surf Ranch with that idiot and his record..that's sneaky and I don't see the link between the two...
Mate , you just said you can’t see a single environmental negative in 520 hectares of rehabilitating wetlands being drained and turned into an amusement park / holiday accommodation.
Best you don’t start spouting shit about a lack of credibility in others.
Misinformation?
"The Hyatt Coolum was a fantastic facility, and this would be a replacement," said Andrew Stark in the Sunshine Daily.
Do you see the link now..?
"was"...until Palmer came along and ruined it. No I still don't see the link between him and the Surf Ranch.
Piss off Starky, your not out at Sunset now you kook.
Total shill FR.
Regardless of any other point, if you think this won't attract more surfers to the SC in general and crowd ocean lineups even more, you're a complete fucking moron.
are you employed by jamieson or do you just hate nature and the great outdoors
Least likely person to be employed by the council. Just keen for a KS wave pool in my backyard, 10min drive away - I don't see anything wrong with that or how anyone wouldn't be excited about the idea of getting to surf one. I think it could be something really special for the Sunshine Coast.
You appear to be under the illusion that you'll be able to surf it?
Perhaps you will if you can afford $100/wave, but for those of us who aren't that rich the project is an absurd waste of resources and land.
The current model is well more than $US450 a wave, and even that wouldn't come close to covering the costs. But the fact is that there are wavepool technologies being developed currently that will; a) produce more waves, b) produce cheaper waves, c) don't have moving parts underwater that will require extreme levels of maintenance to prevent breakdowns, d) take up less water (about 1/3 of the KSWC). The only advantage they have is being the first.
Listen to the 'Dirty Water' podcast with Cheyne Magnusson for a breakdown on the current tech. Cheyne developed the waves at the Waco Park and understands the differences between the technology better than most.
I reckon the metaphor of the new Hyatt Coolum and connection to Clive is apt. All you need to understand Clive is that whatever he does it is all about looking after Clive and his dollars. Starky and his 'mates are of the same vein...
No it does not make sense , not all , its a diversion in a flowing river almost at the point where the river meets the sea not a dam , honestly I tried to find the logic in your OP but just could not , and in fact with the canals wouldn't there be new upmarket canal housing for the things that live in the water .
Are you suggesting an effect similar to continually pumping more water than the downstream flow thereby killing the river ?
Point I am making is all that water flows into the sea not far from where this thing is planned to be built , the canals add to the volume of available water for all living things , evaporation is a constant natural cycle , without which there would be no rain
It's not a diversion, they are going to pump it out.
It's not near where the river meets the sea, it's up just beyond or at the intertidal zone.
It's freshwater.
If you think evaporation is so great, go visit some of the farmers downstream in the Murray-Darling.
It evaporates, sure, but you don't get a buck back where you spent it.
That water could fall anywhere, and mostly falls over the ocean.
As to your ecological argument that canal estates create habitat.......that kind of thinking is pretty fucked.
Hey, lets drain this wetland, one of the most productive ecosystems on Earth to build canals to make more habitat.
Or, in other words, we had to bomb the village to save it.
Yeah, but nah. Doesn't really work like that eh.
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don't know the area - but a consequence of removing/ diverting fresh water from flows near to the estuary will most likely result with a movement of the salt water interface. ie where the environment changes from fresh to saline. Potentially could result with salt water intrusion. Habitat loss.
Not to mention the well known environmentally friendly activity of dredging to create the canals. As well as the almost continuous secondary dredging required to prevent build up of sedimentary deposits created by diminished current flow in and around the 'new' canals.
If we are talking about a site west of the motorway then I'm not sure if anyone commenting on here realises that it is either entirely within or right next to the Maroochy-Coolum Key Resource Area (KRA-156) which is basically the State's green light for sand mining, which Council couldn't stop even if they tried.
So in addition to already being heavily modified with a network of artificial cane farming related drainage canals, it could all be nuked tomorrow for a large sand mine.
I don't think anyone could argue that a wave pool development wouldn't be a better outcome compared to a sand mine.
Exactly, and that is the precise line of reasoning Don Rorke will be using to "persuade" people of the wisdom of the canal estate/wavepool.
Oh, you don't want a wave pool, well fuck you, we'll turn the whole thing into a sand-mine.
Either way, council won't be the consenting authority ......this is already in state govt hands.
Not sure they would want a shit fight on their hands about building a sand mine just before a state election though.
Yep, that's right. I think he's already tried that approach for something that is purely residential, but flooding makes it too hard / costly.
He's basically said let me build houses or I'll develop a big f**king sand mine.
I reckon the wave pool itself could act as flood storage to help achieve flood balance, so its a pretty smart proposal otherwise he'd just have to build a big lake to offset flooding which would have no value.
So this kills two birds with one stone, it deals with flooding and creates revenue from what would otherwise be a worthless artificial lake.
Doubt they'd let flood water into the wavepool at any time.
Pool water has to be treated with chemicals, pumped through filters, while the river water is full of sediment. The clean up costs would be exorbitant.
Correct.
the "answer" is massive engineering.
Millions and millions of tonnes of fill and canals to deal with the water.
The Wavepool is a just a fig leaf.
Even the website itself admits the Wavepool has no business case and needs the residential development to be financially viable.
This will be the model going forwards for the Slater tubs. If they can pull it off.
Thanks for the confirmation regarding sediment in river water, but the design requirements are for a 1 in 100 year flood event so the water would be going in the pool whether they like it or not, so they'd be stupid not to include it the flood storage calculations.
and Sooooooooooooo
Clean
Cowabunga !
The WSL full frontal has tbb on the back foot...but still standing alongside Sunny.
Best if tbb does a flyover & reports back...can offer input into the state of play though!
WSL has a poor environmental record regarding wave pools
Slater Ranch drinks more than a Nuke Plant, Florida sunk itself, Texas is still a cesspit.
KSWP is submitting bills in California to penalize all smaller rivals to sip Town Water.
Globally WSL owns thousands of beach Leases for every day of the year...(Easy!)
Welcome to Qld
Qld Govt invested 10's of $millions in SQ / WSL & lost just as much in recent years.
WSL have a habit of vacating sites to host events outer town or State..(No Rewards)
WSL & co bribed Qld Govt (Both sides) $50K each to upzone this floodplain site.
Qld Tourism MP Kate Jones won a VIP to KSWP / WSL event but never declared it.
Sunny Coast Mayor gets a few favours from the site crew also.
Sunny CEO was gently persuaded to pen a site upgrade despite Full Council's rejection.
The Ranch Coolum consult is way way shady at best...
If any need an explanation of Qldurr Whiteshoe Development...This be it!
Brown paper bag trail then oozes onto the Front Page "WSL Saves Sinking Sunny!"
That's why they brewed XXXX so bitter..so we Qldurrz can rinse out the vomit.
More Whiteshoe Headlines sold more Tallies...'FFS'...Whoosssh! 'You pack of C_nts!'
Qld post Covid -19...(Recovery - Cocoon)
Why this website & why now ? Good questions crew & you'll be wanting answers!
"The Premier has given me a clear direction to back projects that will deliver jobs - that's my No.1 priority." Ms Jones said.
SEQ Cocooning Kick Start
Promoted State Development Minister Kate Jones put up $50m for Wacky Races.
https://www.facebook.com/katejonesqld/videos/190296872103200/
For 'NEW' competitors that share in the Wave Cocoon loot are...
*Wave Pool 1 ~ Surf Lakes Theme Park (S'Lakes: Govt spend $10m > $2b return)
*Wave Pool 2 ~ JW's Noosa Revival Wave Pool
https://www.sanadcapital.com.au/post/post-covid-19-cocooning-set-to-rein...
*Wave Pool 3 ~ Coolum Surf Ranch
https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-dispatch/2019/10/03/notes-the-coo...
*Wave 'Pool' 4 ~ WSR -WSL fun Fair (Licensed Beaches) Needs a Kick Start.
https://www.facebook.com/9NewsGoldCoast/videos/mayor-tom-tate-gives-nod-...
Yes! All of these Wave / Surf developments come alive this week! (The Money!)
Most likely a (Surf Standard) 3 million handout to any that get outta the blocks.
Cocooning = Licking Whiteshoes to win a State election.
The banal economic Kick-start formula actually originated in a NJ Wave Pool.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/06/stalled-by-coronavirus-american-dream-re...
American Dream ~ pre Covid > 55% entertainment + 45% Retail
(Cocoon) is post covid > 70% entertainment + 30% Retail (2020's World Blueprint)
SEQ Wave Pools / Cableways being the Catalyst (Regional Honey Pots) if you like.
&feature=emb_logoRegional Newspapers are Flogging Chambers of Commerce wet dreams.(Like this!)
(a) Strangle WH Gondwana with Chicken Man's Gondolas
(b) Siphon the majestic Blue Heart for Wave Pool Gondolas
https://www.pe.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/RPE-L-WAVEPOOLS-0301-00004...
ALP need Gold Spades in the dirt, so fired off start pistol to Wacky Wave Pool Race.
Surf Lakes / JW comb-over / WSL all responded in kind with Online Promos.(Here)
Kate has already fast tracked Council timelines & gold plated the Xmas spades.
KSWP surfer Kate speaks highly & often of Surf Ranch Coolum...that's a fact!
The CG's / Ed / CC / CRR & Tourism MP also holds Surfing Qld / WSL purse strings.
Kate holds a masters in Environmental Law & declared The D'Aguila Range NP.
Kate is a supporter of her local Save our Waterways Now
http://www.saveourwaterwaysnow.com.au/
Kate is well versed in Blue Heart lifeline vs Olympic sized thought wave bubble.
Kate's clumsy conflict of interest needs to be weighed against her eco smarts.
Put is straight...Kate is Qld's fav' Pollie (There is no contest).
So! Would Qld's Favourite Pollie drain The Blue Heart for a Gold Spade Promo!
Pretty sure that weighs on her mind...
tbb swears that's about as raw & upfront of an intro that Qldurrz can smuggle out!
These are the facts..tbb never tried to twist it eitherway...you get the real deal!
Qldurrz welcome WSL to have their day in the sun & that's fair for everyone.
Truly a good thing that they wish to engage one way or another, better than secrets!
Big thanx to Stu & swellnet for informing Qldurrz & sharing...
Local jobs at risk...so noble of Andrew and his team trying to keep the local community afloat. Cant really see the attraction...predictable and boring.
Another dinosaur to add to Clive, s collection.
Looks like a bog standard golf course development with a wave pool and marina and no golf course.
The corporate spin on this development proposal is warming up folks!
The white shoe brigade have arrived in suits of shining armour ready to lead Queensland out of the Covid-19 economic slump, spearheading a push for future Olympic glory, and bringing a wave pool nirvana that will lift retirement living to a higher level exclusivity.
Reality: This will just be another Sanctuary Cove with a wave pool for the gated community/ timeshare owners - that place is just weird! Or another Pelican Waters, god forbid living on the sunny coast we have had to endure years of watching the development tv adverts and their irritatingly cringy but catchy jingle -
"PELICAN WATERS A MAGIC PLACE TO LIVE" .
For the subscribers that don't live on the sunny coast this is what I'm talking about....
(brainwashed,staring blindly at nothing)
"a magic place to live.......
a magic place to live......
a magic place to live.....
A) Sure sell n fix the Hyatt help the poor residents live somewhere nice again.
B) Build on part on that parcel of land. Keep tourists on that private break patrolled and safe for them.
Keep congestion out of town traffic car parks shops the blue juice line up.
But out by the motorway nightmare. Yes it was sugarcane yes the trees are growing back blah blah...Such a excessive idea is it even actual no one should even have to point out half this crap.
Two massive business 'hubs' plus an estate is such a spread out empty waste .. Large amounts of empty units and houses exist around here already, another canal estate really?!?
Stark. Now there's the leader of the white shoes and board shorts dirt pimp brigade.
Wouldn't mind seeing old Phil Jarratt, who handled Starky and co with such kid gloves come out and say something.
Be worth asking if the developers would provide the KPMG community survey that suggests it has majority support from the 'silent majority'? Those quiet Australians.
Has any other Australian Sport been so tightly linked to land development (Casuarina) and even more so, one particular land developer?
https://www.surfranchsunshinecoast.com.au/surf-ranch-backed-by-silent-ma...
SC gradually going down the GC gurgular.
Oh well, if the RE values get pushed up, we'll sell our place and head a long way south.
Starkys done a Peter Garrett - (after he went into Politics.) The DRORK's been trying to offload that land for years. May he use the same legal eagles as Bunnings did. Hey STARKY, WSL and the rest fuck off. Yes I live 2 minutes from the place and dont want it. Not found anyone that has either... Palmers fucked the place....we dont need anymore. Drives me nuts people telling me what we as a community needs....
Hey, hey, hey. What about the 'community consultation' they held about 12 months ago? You know, the one that most people who surf Coolum everyday didn't find out about until it was over. (Even though the blokes I surf with were down the beach every morning that week). It's almost like they want to control the narrative and deny the existence of opposition. Even though the only voice I have heard in support is Chris Kendall, owner of the local surf school. And I'm guessing he would get a chop out when it comes to supplying his services to the pool.
If they put the kybosh on the Florida Surf Ranch because of a high water table, what's it mean for Coolum?
Florida was going to be the flagship wavepool, but they found water pressure would pop it out of the ground. I'm wondering if this has been considered here?
The place is a bog hole at the best of times....
Yeah, they've got the best engineer in the game on the job.
His specialty, you'll never believe it.
Canal estates.
Oh, and by the way, he endorses the development.
Yeah I've not come across anyone who is keen on it.
Compared to most motorways around SEQ, it's a nice scoot up and down the sunshine motorway with primarily just wetlands, heath and paddock on either side....and the occasional airport runway!
As expected, any proposed development is met with anger and venom from the usual suspects. Leftists use climate change, and other emotive nonsense, to ridicule the people who actually make things happen - like turning boggy wasteland into a viable resort and provide housing and jobs to the benefit of all. Abuse and foul language expose their intellectual paucity and violent demeanour. Stand by for claims of ‘sacred land’ as part of their objections. Many of us welcome initiatives like this and applaud the entrepreneurs who are prepared to stare down the so-called ‘activists’, who do (and contribute) nothing for society. Miserable, envious losers who want to live in share houses, and slums, should relocate to northern NSW and leave those of us who aspire to a better future build it without their interference. I’ve been a resident/ home owner of the area for 8 years and support the development.
We're all entitled to an opinion I agree......but I dont fall into your above mentioned suspects. Im a central to mid righty uni educated SC employer who could "enjoy" a $500 wave if I wanted too...but choose to not want it here as its in my back yard and home and I live here for what it is NOT for what someone else thinks it should be. Mr Dork and Mr Stark can urinate (piss) off. And yes Ive worked with the Hutchy Group and all that so I know what they do. I simply dont want a Bunnings or another Quarry or a Sekisui or an Plane flying directly over my head. As a fella who's lived in Parker St M'Dore since 1985 and now resides north of the river cause whats happened down there Im happy to tell em to get rooted! Tel you what though, fix the Coolum State School roundabout with some road infrastructure and happily sing a + tune.
That's a bit adversarial Crom! You got shares in a cement company or something?
In my opinion, you and all your other 8 Year Locals are welcome to Breeze back to where you came from.
Ah the old "I've lived here longer than you so my opinion is more valid than yours" chestnut.
Crom speaks many truths and its usually the same naysayers acting act like their own house wasn't once undeveloped bushland.
It doesn't matter if he's been there for 2 months or 20 years, if he pays rates, sends his kids to the local school and contributes to the local economy (examples only!) then his opinion is just as valid as anyone elses.
Ever heard of T.M Bourke? You can thank him for most things between Coolum and Sunshine (and the David Low Way) and he was no different to the developers trying to built the wavepool estate.
Fascinating how some people are arguing for a Gold Coast duplication.
Depressing in reality, but fascinating in that they'll be the same people who wondered how it happened.
A retort to the “I’m smarter than all you leftist greeny socialists therefore my opinion is more valid” argument Morto
Your statement "Stand by for claims of ‘sacred land’ as part of their objections’" equating sacred land claims with "leftist bullshit" is extremely disrespectful. Stu/moderators I think you need to be more strict on this kind thing - it's hate speech.
TBH the whole tone of the comment was out of line, I think that was apparent to anyone who read it.
Not sure censorship would help. Better it sits there as a disservice to him/her.
I don't know about censorship or not - maybe it's better to have it here as you say. But I think a strong official response from Swellnet that reflects Swellnet's position is the right thing to do. I mean, Swellnet has some power and responsibility about the sort of content it allows.
Also there is a difference between beating up the left/right/capitalist/socialist/whatever, and disrespectful, hurtful comment about 40000+ year culture, even if it comes from an 8 year local
well crom sucked in house prices were at the highest 8 yrs ago. the gov should b spending our hard earned money on INFRASTRUCTURE to cater for all this development you love.... our bloody roads are chookers and we have a one lane motorway..perhaps you are thee one who needs to relocate or at least fuck off back to Sydney or Melbourne...you miserable envious loser
'As expected, any proposed development is met with anger and venom from the usual suspects.'
I don't see any anger or venom, just a united version of common sense from concerned citizens.
'Leftists use climate change, and other emotive nonsense, to ridicule the people who actually make things happen - like turning boggy wasteland into a viable resort and provide housing and jobs to the benefit of all.'
I have voted Liberal in the past and may do so again, provided their policies make sense. Climate change is the least of the concerns that the site has. I don't think anyone has been ridiculed for anything other than greed. Who benefits? A few maybe, but mostly short term, who will then be taking their dollars with them when they move on to the next big development...
'Abuse and foul language expose their intellectual paucity and violent demeanour.'
Yet to see any abuse and foul language, and certainly haven't identified any violent demeanours, yet you appear to feel threatened by a few challenging opinions on your 'world' view? By the way, currently employed as a uni lecturer, so not completely bereft of intellectual, er, ness.
'Stand by for claims of ‘sacred land’ as part of their objections.'
'Again, none yet, but given that the area has been inhabited for a few thousand years, it is a realistic possibility. Doubtful that that would mean anything to the Sunshine Coast Council either way, given their ability to avert their eyes to their own town plan.'
'Many of us welcome initiatives like this and applaud the entrepreneurs who are prepared to stare down the so-called ‘activists’, who do (and contribute) nothing for society.'
Not around the places I go. And I am an 'essential worker' according to the current situation, working two jobs. While still being active. Including the Sekisui development at Yaroomba, so you got me there. Sorry for caring about the place I live and surf, especially when the town plan, lovingly crafted over years, is ignored when the first contrary plan is put in front of it.
'Miserable, envious losers who want to live in share houses, and slums, should relocate to northern NSW and leave those of us who aspire to a better future build it without their interference.'
Who can afford Northern NSW anymore? You know, after Byron Shire got bought out by the Rajneeshis, it's only the big shots from Sydney who can live there. And I live in a beautiful place, that I paid for with dollars that I earn working two jobs. I'm a lot of things, but I don't think all of those who oppose this development are losers. I'm not sure, I haven't met all of them, yet.
I’ve been a resident/ home owner of the area for 8 years and support the development.
Good for you. I've been in Coolum for 10 years and every single person I know, bar 1, is against it. Are you putting your dollars in?
I can't help but notice that despite all of your complaints about the personalities of those opposed, (who provide some reasons for opposition), you don't give a lot of reasons for this development, apart from jobs for a few, and some houses. There's already development for 100000+ houses in the Caloundra to Sippy Downs corridor, so not sure exactly why we need more in a swamp-land?
Well said mate. Rational and no swear words!
I totally get the ideas that:
- the renewed push for the development is likely a sneaky attempt by the developers to take advantage of the current economic climate,
- the wave pool itself is likely just a deceptive trick to sway public support for the development,
- it's entirely possible that even if the development went ahead the Coast may never actually see a wave pool,
- even if a wave pool got built it will likely be exclusive or at least unaffordable to the general public,
- there are other possibly more economically viable wave pool options than a KS pool,
- there are other possibly more sensible location options on or near the Sunshine Coast for this kind of development,
- the environmental and population impacts of this kind of development will be difficult to mitigate in any case and the final result will likely be undesirable for the location and overall region, and
- the Sunshine Coast is fine just the way it is and that's its attraction.
But I still want to catch a wave in a KS wave pool, and a lot of the above points are more like worst case scenario speculations that may never eventuate.
Hang on.. your first comment was "I see no negatives about the Surf Ranch Sunshine Coast".
And now you've specified eight things that appear to contradict that statement.
Not necessarily since a lot of these things may not become a reality.
Its entirely possible the development does provide long-term economic and social benefits to the region, does not result in an undesirable environmental outcome and unmanageable increases in population pressures, and does actually include a KS wave pool that is more open and affordable to the public than the numbers being thrown around in here. (Maybe they've gone down the learning curve and found ways to make it more affordable?)
But if I'm just being naive and gullible then so be it, I don't mind.
[Factcheck]
16 Feb 2017 'Sanad Wave Pool gets approval from SC Council.'
https://www.sanadcapital.com.au/post/sanad-capital-gets-sunshine-coast-c...
Sanad are expecting a repeat Wave Pool approval for their revamp this month.
This is a public (Water Park) unsure if Wave pool has separate or a/h hire?
SC Council offers many Wave Pool sites suited for WSL surf ranch.
No public have objected to anyone developing on Sunny Coast wave pool sites.
tbb has no objection to WSL or anyone building on zoned Wave Pool land.
Qldurr, tbb feels obliged to stand with Sunny to defend the Blue Heart.
We stand united against this ongoing evil whiteshoe corruption...
The undeclared Junkets, Bribes, Donors. Lies + fake Media/Consult.
Goldie & Oz joined with swellnet to fight Sunny PFAS Ocean Pipeline.
We will also help defend Maroochy River Conservation Park.
Developers already override their own biased drafted local laws.
We'll still let the crooks choose a neighbouring approved site thru goodwill.
If not..then we must protect what precious little life source that is left.
That simple...be pretty fuckin' slack if we don't try...tbb will restock the Library.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-05/australia-attitudes-climate-chang...
Forecast:
The wavepool will never be built but will be promised forever.
The housing development will be built and people will buy the houses.
That's actually a very scary thought.
Any council/govt approval should be contingent upon the wave pool being the first thing that gets built..
tbb just wants to transfer some Stats...(Town Plan Wave Pool review soon.)
Sorry Mr Stark...not buying closed shop polls.
https://www.coolumadvertiser.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Coolum-Ad...
https://www.visitnoosa.com.au/the-noosa-edition-24-october-2019/have-you...
Coolum Surf Ranch(Actual public consultation with real Polls + Source & Dates)
"Do you want the proposed Surf Ranch at Coolum to go ahead"
[ Yes -38 ] [ No-52 ] [ I don't really care -10% ]
https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/polls/do-you-want-proposed-surf-ra...
Do you think the proposed Kelly Slater Surf Ranch at Coolum will get the Green Light.
[Yes - 53% ] [No- 35% ] [I'm not Sure -10%]
https://www.southburnetttimes.com.au/polls/do-you-think-proposed-kelly-s...
These Polls reflect swellnet crew beliefs... if it's crook, it gets a rubber stamp.
May 2020- ABC [f] (Comments) [ For - 5% ] [Against - 90% ] [ Undecided - 5% ]
https://www.facebook.com/ABCSunshineCoast/posts/3033695363343883
Stark RM also claims Coolum Ranch as the default 2032 Olympic Surfing Venue?
Firstly! Qld Premier : "SEQ Olympic bid Officially put on hold!"
https://gamesbids.com/eng/summer-olympic-bids/future-summer-bids/austral...
In any event, Olympics twice rejected competing in Wave Pools.
Despite IOC ruling, WSL still held Olympic Qualifiers in their own Wave Pool.
Last WSL event was #1 Olympic Qualifier & blows 8 days sunbaking.
Where WSL failed to enforce Olympic sportsmanlike ideals in Olympic Qualifier.
Olympic WSL / Teams train & gain advantage in non permitted Wave Pools
WSL ignored Olympic covid-19 Lockdown & continued wavepool Training.
Reckon that should disqualify WSL Olympians a dozen times over.
WSL is the very reason why Surfing is the cheapest sporting ticket in the Olympics.
Stark or WSL have trashed every Olympic ideal & should be banned from the Games.
Now they demand that the 2032 Surf Olympics be played out in their caddy shack.
[ fact Check ]... 2032 Olympic Surfing Venue is The Gold Coast (Who said so?)
Premier > "Gold Coast"
Sunny Coast + SEQ Mayors) > "Gold Coast...All say Aye!"
SLSQ - "Gold Coast"
SLSA - "Gold Coast"
WSL Olympic Pro - "Gold Coast"
No offence but it's Stark's job to know at least some of this.
(No one has ever voted for Sunny Coast or wave pool for Olympic Surfing?)
WSL could claw back cred if they ditched the desperate hodad's Olympic ransom.
Starky + SQ have extorted GCCC to tag QS & relocate WSL Pro to Coolum Ranch.
Note: WSL haven't held a Snapper Pro final since that sloppy surf of March 2017
Blow $10m + all that sand pumping & now the comp's headed for a caddy shack.
No offence but Stark has a pretty shit record & is damaging our Oceania surf brand.
What's happening to the Webber pool next to the shit farm in Logan? That's a better use of low quality land that is unlikely to become a housing development.
Proposed duplication of the motorway took the land.
Bugger!
Dear Mr & Mrs WSL, Across the road & 1km to the North from yer naughty site.
The Govt/Council has a fully approved wave pool site extension onto Lake Quanda.
OZ Ski Resort (Nat' standard) has approval to expand. (Just like Lemoore Surf Ranch)
https://ozskiresort.com/
* Tea Tree Lake (Free water) no Bugs or Chlorine hassles (Approved in use now)
* Extension is Big enough for 2 x KSWP (Approved)
* International Comp Arena & Grandstand (Approved)
* Jetskis / Surfboards / Paddle Boards / Wake / Skis / Speed Boats (Approved - in use)
* Exclusive private Lessons (Approved in use now)
* Pro Shop (Approved- in use now)
* Parties (Approved in use now)
* Day Hire (Approved in use now)
* Food service (Approved in use now)
More site freedom than Urbnsurf
Sunshine Coast Motorised water sports (Recommendations)
https://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/Council/Planning-and-Projects/Counc...
Pages : 9/10 + 18 /19 + 25
So simple, you just move the WSL Wave pool machine next door. Sorted!
What do you mean you're in too deep...Oh! I see...it's one of those...
tbb did try to help tow the new guys out...you all saw that..
They're very rude & wearing out their welcome pretty darn fast!
If I won lotto I think I'd buy the Bli Bli cable ski park and make my own wave pool there instead.
Respect Kabbi Kabbi land & People.
Volcanic Sequence of Mountain chain > Island > River > new life.
Coolum fights Elder Ninderry for the girl and his head is cast off as Mudjimba Island!
The Girl's tears 'Maroochy River', she rises as a swan to search for Coolum's Spirit.
It refers to an entire Biosphere Landscape to be revered...{ The Blue Heart }
WSL support the Blue Heart, sharing 75% site access to public.
Noosa NP access to Coolum Conservation Park.
This is a special promise...Access by water into the site but also access across water.
This being a Lake Resort with ocean access yet walking trails over Luxury Yachts?
They'd be pretty tall arched bridges for Rich Folks Yachts.
Best we check if Walkers have rights over or equal to Shipping.
1860's Aboriginal Surf Rafters plyed the River from here & over the Surf at the Bar.
1911 Cane Tram bridges locked up river & Coolum Creek access.
Heritage bridges still Block all but oar power from access to Surf Ranch.
Not good if you're running promos for Superyachts by the Ranch Marina.
Crew can see there is a spot of bother.
Transit ( Buses / Trains / Trams )
https://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/Council/Planning-and-Projects/Major...
No Buses to Trains or Trams are proposed anywhere near this site. (2km to bus stop)
Cramming a mini city so remote from all future transport is no Olympic ideal is it.
Airport (Flight Path runs thru the roof of these homes!)
Jet stream chop & fuel dumps in the pool 24/7 (Not for long term living or Schooling)
http://www.residents-for-responsible-development.com/uploads/4/5/7/7/457...
This explains the resort component as no one else could ever live here.
Boating
Maroochy River Bar limit (>15m vessel) (Bridge > clears 6m on highest tide)
All clear to Wastewater Plant (1-1.5m deep) then the tram bridges -Walking trail.
Bridal Trail runs over the whole east of WSL site to cross creek at island bridges.
https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/nambour-to-coolum-walking-tra...
Wastewater Plant also runs a Buffer / Canoe Trail up to the Tram bridges...(Recent)
Legislated fish Habitat at the mouth of Coolum Creek..
No jet skis or Water Skiing up here or near any residential precincts on Sunny Coast.
No maritime fixtures or Ramps / Jetties along Coolum Creek.
History : 2006 A commercial eco tour vessel bottomed out at creek entrance.
There seems no possible way a canal estate with Ocean Access can be forged.
Coolum Creek would need to be de-mained in order to breach all rules.
Cut canals from main river & lock a combo bridge Trail set on Boat timers.
No longer would the site be tidal but on Wavepool /Boating timer ruling trekkers
Only then could Jet Skis operate in default private WSL waterway.
Mindful that Coolum Creek is shared by tidal Coolum Conservation Park.
(tbb's early opinion only...rings a bell to State Sponsored Creek overrides of late '90's)
This is not new in Qld ...Mudgeeraba Creek was isolated & sold off & kinda fenced.
Sanctuary Cove armed Speed Boat security to hunt down & eat tinny ratz!
tbb thinks there is no other way than for Govt to handover WSL Coolum Creek.
They then deepen it & use it as a giant straw to suck the life outta the Blue Heart.
Free for all to watch them do it as some eco fish to plate thingy!
Site constraints (Rural Map Title 9)
https://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/Development/Planning-Documents/Suns...
*ZM9 - Coolum Creek Conservation Park shares S/W creek access.
This will need to remain Tidal or it will die in it's native sense!
9A -Acid Sulphate over whole site to 5m (Unsuitable for Canals / Lake /Wavepool)
9C - Native vegetation Wetland covers whole S/E by South to N/W (About 30%)
9F - State Key Sand Resource / Processing Area (North central 40%)
Note: Between Sand Pit / Wetland / Bridal Trail there is little room for a wave Pool
9G - 100% Flooding Inundation Area (SEQ is Oz Flood Relief hand out capital) More?
9H - Structures 8.5 m high > (2 story limit for flood stilted Resorts & School)
9L - Scenic Route surrounds entire perimeter > (Wave Machine Rig /Replays?)
Goldie Whiteshoe Tip! Just trailer in a Superyacht to promo the Lake.
Sell all lots in a day...hitch the Yacht to the caravan & fly by night thru the next town.
Palm(ers) have been greased - this going to happen. Another win for surfing (greed).
What the actual fuck....? This direct from their website
"The development also includes the improvement, and contribution back to the public, of land dedicated to untouched riparian wetlands in support of the Blue Heart strategy of the Sunshine Coast Council."
Beggars belief.
Coolum Surf Ranch Site (Resource Library)
Maroochy River History + Old Coolum Creek Maps
http://coolumcoastcare.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Jim-Cash-Shifti...
Coolum Cane Tramway Route > re: 2016 Bridal / Hiking Trail
https://maroochyshiretramways.wordpress.com/line-coolum/coolum-aerials/
July 2011- Ship operations & Activities on the Maroochy River + (Coolum Ck)
https://www.google.com/search?ei=p_TZXsrhHP6Y4-EP0_K0wAw&q=Ship+operatio...
2012/13 Coolum Creek Environmental Reserve (est 2000)
( video -Tram Bridge / Huge Mangrove / Cultural Fish habitat) > (management) link
https://www.google.com/search?ei=ZsjaXvP2CZma4-EP7uqtKA&q=Coolum+Creek+E...
October 2013 - North Coolum Key Resource Area
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157751901399884&set=p.10157751...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157751901004884&set=p.10157751...
16th Feb 2014 (Sanad Wave Pool - now in council)
https://www.swellnet.com/news/surfpolitik/2014/02/16/queensland-get-firs...
29th July 2014 (Sanad Wave Pool cont... - now in council)
https://www.swellnet.com/news/surfpolitik/2014/07/29/sunshine-coast-hous...
4th July 2016 Nambour to Coolum / Noosa Trail Map (re: Cane Tram route above)
https://u3asunshine.org.au/www/news/nambour-to-coolum-trail/
8th Dec 2016 -Maroochy River Rock walls (Council officers proposal) Canals < > Boats?
https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/a-rock-wall-for-maroochy-rive...
2017 Coolum Ck CP.(81.4% Palustrine/Melaleuca)+(15.4% sea/tidal - Estuarine/Mangroves)
https://parks.des.qld.gov.au/managing/plans-strategies/statements/pdf/co...
Aug 2017 OSCAR (Organisation Sunshine Coast Association of Residents)
https://www.oscar.org.au/planning/current/coolum-west/
28 Aug 2018 - Planning Scheme Rural Site Map/s [9]
https://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/Development/Planning-Documents/Suns...
16 Feb 2019 - Sunshine Coast proposed Wave Pool history (*Active)
2000 Surfing World /2004 Adventura /*2014 Actventure /*2019 Surf Ranch /*2019 Surf Lakes
https://www.swellnet.com/comment/600315
27th Sept 2019 ( Coolum Surf Ranch - part 1 )
https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-dispatch/2019/09/27/sunshine-coas...
2017-2019 Airport turns out the same Flight Path each review.
http://www.residents-for-responsible-development.com/uploads/4/5/7/7/457...
3rd Oct 2019 ( Coolum Surf Ranch - part 2 ) > part 3 is here this page.
https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-dispatch/2019/10/03/notes-the-coo...
12 Nov 2019 (Joint Release) from...
Sunshine Coast Environment Council
Coolum and North Shore Coast Care
OSCAR
Friends of Yaroomba
Development Watch Inc.
'Proposed Coolum Surf Ranch & urban development poses unacceptable Flood Risk.'
https://www.oscar.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Coolum-Surf-Ranch-pr...
4 March 2020 -Don O'Rorke hodad on WSL (White Shoe Line) + Wave Pool.
https://www.consolidatedproperties.com.au/people/don-ororke/
https://theurbandeveloper.com/articles/developer-don-ororke
21 April 2020 - Regional Facilities Plan for Motorised Water Sport.
https://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/Council/Planning-and-Projects/Counc...
22nd May 2020 OSCAR Inc ( Open Letter ) "What are they thinking ?"
"The Department of State Development, Innovation and Tourism was the Govt Agency working with the consortium proposing an intensive residential, mixed-use development at Coolum with a wave pool component. But no-one in Govt has appeared willing to explain why.
1. What is the status of the development proposal? Is it being seriously considered by the State Govt and if so, under what planning provisions?
2. The proposed site sits outside the Urban Footprint and the SEQ Regional Plan because of its physical constraints. Why would the State Government contemplate a development of its nature on such a site.
3. Does continued assessment of this proposal indicate a willingness by the Govt to consider other development proposals on flood-prone land and if so, why?
A Treasury spokesman said, " No formal application for this development has been lodged with the Planning division of Queensland Treasury. Should a development application be put forward, it would be submitted to Sunshine Coast Council, who would be the assessment manager and the ultimate decision maker," the spokesman said....+ [ Accompanying Flood Map ]
https://external.fbne6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQDCLU1JvXtBawk_...
1 Comment: Jane Beck.
" Good questions! Why did Kate Jones visit the surf range in California last year with the proponent for this development?"
28 May 2020 Sunshine Coast Mass Transit Plans
https://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/Council/Planning-and-Projects/Major...
(Updated) 2020 Blue Heart
https://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/Council/Planning-and-Projects/Major...
our mayor on the sunny coast is pro development despite not fitting into the town plan..there is so much building going on....slaters pool is such a stupid idea that will strip us of our water reserves and provide a facility no one can afford to use... I would love a wave pool up here.. one that only costs $70 to surf
Any surfer getting behind the degradation of the natural environment for the construction of a wavepool ought to be shamed. The environment will be better off without this development. That is a fact. There is no philanthropic activity going on here intended to serve the community interest.
What is going on here is a significant housing development featuring a a gimmick designed to distract the greedy and short sighted surfing population.
Developers are in a position to foster progression. This progress ought ought be realised some conscience in regards to balancing social, environmental and ethical concerns. Development is necessary but ought to be done with some measure and consideration.
The most attractive thing about the Sunshine Coast region is the natural environment. Why anybody would seek to endorse the destruction of this is beyond me.
Fuck anybody leveraging development off surfing.
GSCO:
Is this account a bot?
The old ignorance/positivity shapeshift...
"The most attractive thing about the Sunshine Coast region is the natural environment. Why anybody would seek to endorse the destruction of this is beyond me.
Fuck anybody leveraging development off surfing."
AMEN!
Used to walk across that swampy cesspit from Old Coolum Road to tend to my mullies back in the 80's, it's a badly drained dead zone, always has been,,,,environmental wetlands, nah.
Sunshine Coast Council Officers wish for a Maroochy River Rockwall Seaway.
https://www.noosanews.com.au/news/a-rock-wall-for-maroochy-river-dont-ba...
https://www.qt.com.au/news/council-must-consult-public-over-rockwall-pro...
1. Less maintenance
2. Clear Parameters (Measures for a City-wide future Planning Tool)
3. River mouth bathymetry changes thru each development application...(Liability!)
4. New council + Polls? > (Rockwall 41% / Sandbags 29% / Do nothing 29%)
Shows you can skew any option or combo?
Developers want seaway for greater tidal reach to rush out Floodwaters for up zones.
However the lower river broadwater properties suffer stronger tidal erosion action.
Hydrologist Trevor Johnson has worked on lower Twin Waters & Upper WSL.
Dr Johnson knows exactly what level / contribution WSL needs to afford the Seaway.
If Seaway is accepted, then Project can have a lock then drain the floodwaters.etc...
* 529 H / 375 H or 75% Wetlands, Lakes x 2 + Public Land to suit (20,000 arena)
tbb: Reads the Cane tram Trail -Bridal Track/ Bikeway is a given for (Arena)
The wetlands are protected as is ...+ 2 Lakes (WavePool / Filler / canals) = 75%
WSL will argue for same dodgy 12m height across the road for 2 x resorts + condos
Dr Johnson: "Water quality is improved through the restoration of the adjacent wetlands and Maroochy River."
( tbb: Restoration sounds like > 'altered / ramped' tidal regime?)
* "Improve Water Quality"
(tbb: "Tide cycle lock with boating flush system?') Being 15kms up the River.
Gold Coast has locks @ 15kms (Same) to reboot / flush the tide.(1.3-2.3 m deep)
Again! Coolum Ck mouth is 1.5m deep (Approx default set tidal depth)
Gold Coast has several different locked estuaries as good examples.
GCCC locks have 24/7 card swipe access. (Closed in Flood as release is measured)
* Varsity Lakes is mankind's greatest Estuary...Salt - [ Tidal weir ] No thru boats.
Note: Tidal Weir is crossed by cycle & pedestrians not so the GC Locks.
Merely as adjacent estates are gated also. (Coolum Ck needs ped/Cycle/Horse bridge)
- Monterey Keys: 12m boats
- Oyster Cove (Private): 15m boats
- Clear Island Waters is a freshwater habitat > 15m boats (Pest: Mexican Water Lilly)
* "Improve Wildlife"
(tbb: 'Tide more Water thru Town Wetlands to filter Wave Pool?') Private-Public blur?
Possible up creek swim / Fish / canoe bans is par for the course.
* "Mitigate potential environmental impacts" (tbb: 'Divert Creek + lock ?')
re: WSL tides Acid Sulphates at same river bend drop as Airport PFAS / SC Sewage.
Rather unfortunate as it's a major protected Fish Habitat.
* "Protect the region's famous wavebreaks"
Yeah! This one really threw tbb...What do they mean by this Heroic act?
Ranch is too expensive to draw any outta the lineup?
Perhaps WSL buys out WSR and shuts it down on weekends / holidays.
The development is 15kms from Ocean (What Beach Protection is out there?)
Developer code for a contribution to Coast saving seawall tidal defence structure!
Council root for Don to unlock flood plain bounty via Rock Seawalls. [Tick Boxes]
Pretty sure this is why Sunny locals said no to Rock walls in 2017.
Reckon it's back...but Developers are working with Govt for a Council Officers deal.
We all just saw Govt tell SCC to pump PFAS thru The Blue Heart artery...it's on!
What the Sunshine coast needs is a Monorail
8th June - Subbies call to fast-track pipeline projects to save jobs...
Subbies behind the Surf Ranch development proposal at Coolum have called for the $1.24b project, & others, to be fast tracked to "kick start" economy & help keep industry afloat.
In the wake of the Coronavirus Pandemic , Subbies for Hutchinson Builders have come together to seek action to fast track some high-profile projects. Regional Manager for Hutchinson Builders Levi Corby pointed to the Surf Ranch development at Coolum as a project that could be pushed forward.
10 June - Surf Ranch (Web Site) Flank an army of Heavyweight backers...
https://www.surfranchsunshinecoast.com.au/sunshine-coast-construction-in...
tbb worked 20 years in SEQ construction & says corrupt development is a setback.
16th June Sunshine Coast Daily
Road to Recovery
21 Major Infrastructure Projects to get Coast back on track
Sunshine Coast Federal MP's call for acceleration of Shovel Ready projects
(Shovel Ready?) Development Map... Guess who's at Number 1...
#1 Surf Ranch Coolum
https://www.pressreader.com/
That's right! No Rezone or Plans not even a trace of a thought bubble in the sky!
Feds / State / Subbies / Surf / News say Coolum Surf Ranch is No 1 ready to Go...
Shock Jocks should arse kick any Pollies getting high from sniffing whiteshoe farts.
6 July "Govt shouldn't use Covid-19 excuse to open the Flood Gates at Coolum."
swellnet crew salute Surfrider Foundation ( Noosa Patron Cr Tom Wegener)
https://www.swellnet.com/news/talking-heads/2020/03/16/vote-1-tom-wegener
Surfrider Foundation joins a growing number of SC Community groups.
All are urging the State Govt to not allow development of the Blue Heart.
Proposal is clearly an example of Urban Sprawl...
Wavepool as a secondary selling point but spuriously promoted as tourism project.
Groups appreciate the difficulties of the construction industry during downturn.
They are supportive of approved developments but not Covid-19 excuse for said.
Groups seek to meet with Kate Jones to discuss concerns & remind of Townsville.
Full article carries a lot more detail...
https://mysunshinecoast.com.au/news/news-display/state-government-should...
https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/surfs-up-noosa-council-assess...
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Noosa Council is currently assessing an application for a wave pool to be built on Noosa’s North Shore.
The application for a 4000 sqm lagoon/wave pool on the North Shore was lodged in September 2019, which included a large two-storey, two-bedroom dwelling.
Development assessment manager Kerri Coyle said the application was currently being assessed with a report due to go before council in August.
“The site is zoned visitor mixed use under the current planning scheme but there are a number of overlays over the site including Biodiversity and Natural Hazard reflective of the site’s significant vegetation and potential bushfire hazards,” she said.
The applicant has advised the dwelling would accommodate up to 12 people at a time and not be used for more than three consecutive months by the owners.
Council advised news of the wave pool had not been received well by all residents.
“Council has received two properly made submissions raising objections to the application,” Ms Coyle said.
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Two bedroom dwelling, accommodating 12 people?
That's some fancy high end backpackers.
Random huh? Sounds more like some privately owned holiday property than a full blown commercial development.
Thanx Sprout & Phil...that makes 4 on the go for Sunny.
"Bain Wave Park"
Location...Beach Rd Caravan Park
Resort Style ( Exclusive clients )
Builder : Mark Bain Constructions
Consultant : Pivotal Perspective Jack Lewis
Wave Pool Type: WaveLoch
Noosa Today Article by swellnet Sunny Coast scribe Phil Jarratt
https://noosatoday.com.au/news/10-07-2020/making-waves/
WaveLoch "SurfLoch" Model...
https://www.surfloch.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkbqvt7Xl6gIVoZvCCh1h4AmqEAAY...
(re: tbb: Palm Springs Surf Club)
https://www.swellnet.com/comment/679642
Sunshine Coast Wave Pool Line Up.
1) Actventure [ a/h Pool (Approx) : 6,000m2 ] approved / in court > SCC (Infrastructure fees?)
2) White Shoe Line ...Blue Heart Attack (Private) [ XL - 50,000m2 ] Opposed
3) Surf Lakes License Oct 2019 (Surf) [ Size: XL- 37,500m2 ] n/a
4) Bain Wave Park [ 4,000m2 ] in council (re:Tom Wegener / Surfrider + Noosa Biosphere)
Bain Wave Park + Blue Heart Attack are private Surf reserves.
Local Background...(tbb did not hunt these stories...merely what Google spits out!)
Mark Bain / Halse Lodge ~ Joint Head Sponsors of Noosa Boardriders Club
https://it-it.facebook.com/Noosaboardridersclub/photos/so-proud-of-our-g...
https://qldbusinesspropertylawyers.com.au/blog/agents-dumped-over-wave-b...
No shortage of court cases...tbb is not going there!
Again a series of Council...to & fros...read into it what you like...
https://publicdocs.scc.qld.gov.au/hpecmwebdrawer/RecordHtml/13143100
tbb reminds that this is default SEQ Whiteshoe setting.
Not trying to paint anything other than the norm...All know this!
2012 Noosa North Shore
Tour Guide : Tropicsurf General manager : Tim Mitchell
Car Ferry to The North Shore > Drive along beach round a bend thru shallow Lagoon.
To find flawless head high turquoise waves.
Surf >>> Belmondos Food Hampers + Inbuilt speaker helmet coaching!
On our drive back a BBQ at private $20m beachfront property...
Tropicsurf has "exclusive" access to the property, built within neighbouring NP.
https://www.afr.com/life-and-luxury/travel/ride-your-own-wave-20121227-j...
tbb : "This very much resembles the Bain Wave Park, does it not! "
Bain Wave Park Noosa by Phil Jarratt >> Alternative link
https://issuu.com/starnewsgroup/docs/2020-07-10_nty_663
If Phil Jarratt just came out and said that he is a staunch advocate for development on the Sunshine Coast and entirely subscribes to a Liberal ideology it would be much more commendable.
That article is a deplorable and dishonest piece of journalism. Attempting to colour a wave pool as having environmental virtue is fast talking bullshit. Let's just be honest and clear that there is no environmental benefit to be derived from any kind of wave pool.
There are no 'good wave pools' and 'bad wave pools.'
Development is important but it must serve a community interest and proceed with pragmatic environmental considerations taken into account.
8th July [ Podcast] Hidden details behind the Kelly Slater Wave Pool revealed.
https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=692191
crew salute Melva from OSCAR...
26th July Friends of Yaroomba
https://www.facebook.com/SunshineCoastEnvironmentCouncil/photos/a.462749...
1st Aug - Sunshine Coast Environment Council...
"Coolum West- An intensive Urban Development...Not just a Wave Pool."
https://www.scec.org.au/coolum_west
Topics (Menu)
The massive development poses significant risks & impacts on the Maroochy River...
the floodplain & wider catchment.
The Proposal on 510ha
83ha Residential > 20ha Sports > 17ha Hotel + Commercial > 12ha WavePool
Background
2004 Govt + SCC say No > Consolidated Properties 387ha Coolum Lakes Res' Plans
CP buy up yet more land 510ha
2017 Govt say No > CP bid to include land in SEQ urban Footprint.
CP announce to progress & utilise the zoned Key Resource Are as gazetted?
2019 Current Proposal
Flooding
State / Council say > Intolerable Flood Risk
Flood Hazard Overlay Code
Blue Heart
A project such as that currently proposed by Consolidated Properties would irrevocably undermine and negatively impact on the considerable merits of long - term, sustainable public interest benefits of the Blue Heart.
Ecological Impacts
Water extraction, frequency & bio diversity of fish Stock & swamp-marsh habitat.
Wave pool
Said groups & Surfrider are not against Wave pools in the region's zoned areas.
Surf Ranch Sunshine Coast (Website)
Blatant marketing Tool
FAQ : Non existent or Misleading answers
Key Resource Area.
Equally concerns of mining operation but respect for State's rare reserve.
Not for selfish site owner to fritter about the floodplain
Close + Say No > change.org petition.
https://www.change.org/p/hon-kate-jones-please-don-t-open-the-floodgates...
Bonus : Old School Webber - Sunny Wave Pool Petition ( variant is in council now)
https://www.change.org/p/sunshine-coast-council-webber-wave-pool-for-the...
Paywall alert:
https://amp.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/surf-legend-kelly-slater-...
In summary, kelly going hard and getting more vocal trying to put the "sunshine coast back on the surfing map" and inject much needed covid economic stimulus into the region but environmental red tape regarding flood zoning and green groups delaying approval.
That's what all surfing communities want, to be put on the map, fucking moron.
This land floods continually after not necessarily that much rain relatively speaking. Any development here would have to take in account that if this water is moved elsewhere that it may well become an issue for perhaps places like Marcoola .
I’m not against it in principle as I live in local area, and the area looks to be mainly old cane land doing nothing now, but no one wants a massive inappropriate development like Sekisui one just approved . This one had 10,000 objections and a community funded court appeal, yet our Major drove this through on the community, a very unpopular decision to railroad this dodgy Japanese developers greed on us all.
If Sekisui got theirs through then this one would probably be easier.
Kate Jones obviously keen, as she has lost sight of the value of community, which was how she won her seat in Brisbane in the first place. She also weighed in to support Sekisui with total disregard for local community feelings.
Just curious Mool, what is the general argument against the sekisui developmental? Why is it so strongly opposed by the community?
Kelly addresses Sunshine Coast :
"I think this wave will become er! somewhat of a Mecca...
...er! Kinda put Sunshine Coast back on the Coas'...back on the map!"
Coincidence! The Sunny locals have been saying the exact same thing! Kinda!
Mumble in the Rumble
https://www.facebook.com/7NEWSSC/videos/766448957505534/
Don: " They selected Um a Site at Coolum which we own, on the Sunshine Coast.
Because of it's location to the Ocean & it's deep surf culture."
CCC : "Yeah! We'll buy that!" Where do we sign!"
7 News Chick:
"The project has been sitting with the State Govt for approval for all >> most a Year!"
'Did I agonise over that delayed approval about right!'
Don: "Splendid Soph'...sounds laboured enough, here's yer Michelob rumble sticker!"
North Shore "Bain Wave Park" is deferred by Noosa "General" Council until Monday!
Any of the Local crew up for a paddle battle...
11 Aug 2020 Courier Mail
written in "Gold Coast Whiteshoe Tongue" by oldschool Bully cadet Greg Stoltz
"Surf Legend Kelly Slater urges Green Light for $1.2b Qld Wave Pool Project."
Surfing Superstar Kelly Slater is urging the Palaszczuk Govt to 'Quickly Give The Tick' to an eponymous $1.2b wave pool project on the Sunshine Coast, as 'Red Tape and Greenies' stall approvals.
Slater says the 'Massive Project' -forecast to create more than '12,000 Jobz' & inject $2,3b into the 'Covid -Crippled Qld Economy' - could become as iconic a surf spot as World - Famous Bells Beach or Snapper Rocks.
The 11-Time World Champ developed the Kelly Slater Surf Ranch at Lemoore in inland California in 2015, creating the most perfect man-made surfing wave ever seen.
He sold the technology to the WSL, which wants to develop the world's second Slater wave Pool at Coolum in partnership with leading Qld developer Consolidated Properties.
But the Sunshine Coast Surf Ranch has been sitting with State Development Department for more than 6 months 'Awaiting Approval'.
The 529ha former cane farm is outside the urban footprint in the South East Qld Regional Plan 'but' the WSL & CP have asked the Govt to Declare it a "Priority Development Area".
Premier & Tourism MP Kate Jones - who visited the California Surf Ranch last year - have publicly welcomed the Coolum Proposal but 'Red Tape' is "Delaying Approvals".
Photo: Night Time shot of Kelly in the barrel.
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/47bd9f9313e96b0d43bed99c52a2f120?wid...
Local environmentalists are also opposing the project, saying it is a major flood risk, but the proponents say they have "Expert Advice" that this can be mitigated.
Slater told Courier Mail that the project,mooted as a possible venue for the 2032 Olympics if Qld gets the Games, would create a "New Surfing Mecca".
"When people start thinking about Surfing in Australia they generally think about Bells or the Gold Coast, he said.
I think this wave would become somewhat of a Mecca and "Put the Sunshine Coast back on the (Surfing) Map".
I think it will bring a lot of interest to the area and it will be a place that I know that a lot of people are going to want to surf and have an ongoing impact on the local area.
The Californian Surf Ranch hosts WSL Championship Tour Events and Slater said he was keen to see a second one built."
Photo: Kelly's Cutback at The Ranch.
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/449b9df8a183a44ab83327ea5db2185e?wid...
"We had so many people asking for so long where we're going to build the next wave, including Australia," he said.
WSL Australian Boss Andrew Stark said : " Given the current Covid Climate and Economic Crisis that Qld is facing, to bring such a sizeable investment and number of jobs to a region such as the Sunshine Coast is extremely important."
The Surf Ranch Project would include a residential development, school, hotel and apartments, indigenous cultural centre, six star Surf Lodge, shops and Restaurants, parkland and waterways.
18 Comments...Lib Mouthpiece still can't buy City Support ( POLL says No again!)
7 x Bitch & want to ram whatever thingy home...(Get outta their way!)
11 x Say fuck off to more big fat liars sucking their town dry.
To read comments...Courier Mail Twitter 11 Aug 2020...1 story access per visit.
https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/surf-legend-kelly-slater-...
Meanwhile ... cross town at Noosa North Shore Bain Manor Wave Park...
11 Aug 2020 " Planning & Environment Committee Meeting
[ BAIN MANOR WAVE PARK PLANS ] + (Bonus) > Palm Springs Wave Plans
https://www.noosa.qld.gov.au/downloads/file/2387/2020-08-11-planning-env...
https://noosatoday.com.au/news/12-08-2020/wave-pool-project-in-deep-water/
12 Aug 2020 "Wave Pool Project in Deep Water."
(No Construction Plan had been received)
Cr Tom Wegener : "As a Surfer > lots of interest in the project in the community"
Mayor : 12 people in a 2 bed House? (6 x 2 cabins =12 Max)
Wave Pool Clearing & Excavation.(Adverse Impacts!)
1.3ha of clearing threatened species
excavation of acid sulphate soils
Pool Water (Problematic)
Proponents said Rainwater - Council say 50mm / Year Tops.
1 Noosa Drive as a water source was ruled out.
Rain Filling -1 year + Tankers on Ferry (Ongoing supply)
Proponents hint at Pumping Salt water from River ?
2 x 280,000L Tanks (See: Tank 1 Tankers)
Tank 1 for Lagoon/Wave Pool + Tank 2 (Unsealed) drains the overflow (Not ideal)
Water Disposal a threat to wetlands?
Pool
85m x 50m (Surfing Arena) + 80m x 50m (Take Off Zone)
Depth 1-1.5m + Walls -2m high
3,000,000L or 300 Tankers on Ferry
Access - 2-3 Supervisors..
Guests bur some Restricted Public Access.
Zoning Visitor Accom Type 3 Rural
Cabins remain Type 3 but Wave Pool pushes Type 2 (Entertainment / Amusement)
Officers say to Vote No!
No environmental Attachment to site.
If pool was to filter & enrich habitat as life force?
12 Aug 2020 "Support Swell for North Shore Wave Pool."
2017 Site was last sold for $550,000
https://theworldnews.net/au-news/support-swells-for-north-shore-wave-pool
Noosa Surfie Councillor Wegener: "I think it complies with the rules."
" I don't think I could support council on this one!"
"Lots of Pools on the North Shore & this is just a bigger one with a pump at one end!"
Cr Wegener was seeking clarification on Ancillary Use
Officers were explaining that this Pool was as Tourist attraction Hub with impacts.
Not an oversized residential Pool of ancillary use.
Cr Wegener wish to know more about Water impacting on amenity of North Shore.
tbb: It seems odd that a new councillor announces support with very limited info.
Also odd that a developer provides makeshift info for a key component. (Water?)
Conflict of interest ...
Developer Bain / Cr Amelia Lorentson are entwined in Noosa Boardriders Club.
They are Surfing family Friends & their gromz.
Cr Lorenston posted electoral corflutes on Bain's Commercial Property/s.
18 Aug 2020 - "Wave Pool possibly sinking."
Lorenston & Mayor Stewart voted for the $20,000 night VIP Pool Party
https://noosatoday.com.au/news/18-08-2020/wave-pool-possibility-sinking/
Tom actually reported beforehand that he was voting against the Wave Pool
Thursday is the Final Ordinary Vote > Is Tom swinging?
PS : Councillors received Last minute emails to not betray their elected positions.
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Cr Wegener said he owed it to community and the councillors to explain why he had been "supportive of this development in some ways". He said cracks started appearing after he read through the plans a few times...
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Great to know he didn't even read the plans properly before throwing his support behind it.
All over local radio today....KS says if the SC doesnt want it then he'll move it to the GC.
Obviously that wont please Don, Scott or Mr Stark. WE DON'T WANT IT KS! F-OFF. PUT IT ON THE GC. ANOTHER REASON FOR ME NOT TO GO THERE!
Hang on a sec Sunnyboys...tbb lives on the Goldie.
"Yeah! & Kelly lives in Bug'z Electorate"... (Duh!) This is bullshit!
2012 Kelly's Goldie Games Training Pool Blitzed by Jamie Durie (Pop 4,500) Crooks!
https://www.swellnet.com/news/surfpolitik/2013/03/20/kelly-slater-dealt-...
Fuck the Goldie...'I'll take my Wave Pool to the Sunny Coast, they luv White Shoes'.
Please! We beg Sunny not to derail the White Shoe Line...give it time to grow on you.
Goldie counter Threat : Give it to 'em Starky!
Starky: No WSL Pool (No retro Sunny Qld Surfing HQ )..HQ becomes Bugz MP office!
Please accept our 2nd Casino offer with Complementary Bugz Timeshare Trolley.
We'll also throw in GC Olympic venue + The Quiky Pro + Roxy Pro for yer Wave Pool
+ ( Bonus Corona Pop Up grandstand for yer Noosa NP Dog Show)...Sorted then!
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*Meanwhile back at Bain Manor $20,000 VIP Charity Wave Pool Ball Invitational
https://www.noosanews.com.au/news/wave-pool-sinks-as-cr-amelia-withdraws...
20th Aug Noosa News " WavePool sinks as Cr 'Amelia' withdraws from Vote.
Qldurr Cr Truey apologises for trendy 1st name Councillor Product placement.
Cr Amelia Lorentson first voted against Officer's recommendation to approve Pool.
Amelia (Hot Surfie Chick) declared Club sponsor,backer & Gromz a conflict of interest.
Wave Pool "Sunk" 4 votes to 1.
Hang on tbb! So who was stupid enough to vote for this half baked VIP Pool Party?
That be Da Mayoress Clare Bear + No declared developer interest obviously...Huh?
Cr Beach Babes fancied themselves struttin' da high end $20,000 Swimwear Parade.
Yep! The price Tag was all these chix needed to know...'Yes from me & Me too... '
"So you Chix don't wanna think about it then, or maybe look at some pictures!"
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Sunny Celebrity Wave Pool Graveyard Tour ...
On the Map-Haunted Sunny Wave Pool Proposals Tour.
Meet yer Guides ...Hi I'm Pro Kelly + Hi I'm Pro JW.
Look to yer Left ...Wave Pool Proposal 1 will make your blood Cuddle (Curdle).
2002 - Surfing World -(Too Noisy + Terrorist 'Backpackers' Threat)- Appeal Lost.
2004 - Adventura - ( Failed to meet the deadlines )
2014 - ACTVENTURE - (2017 Approved > Changed Plans?) 5 Court Cases (Mine?)
2019 - Blue Heart Attack -(Bribes, Junkets, Olympic Scams, Standovers) ( & Mine?)
2020 - Bain Manor VIP Pool Party- Conflict of interest...just add water proposal? No!
Consolidated Properties Sand Extraction Loophole.
State Key resource Sand Extraction Quarry is a meal ticket.
tbb was dead set that WSL were banking off new Maroochy River Groynes
If not that maybe roach off the Blue Heart buy backs for their flood credit excuse.
Likely that both could well be the case...eg: Less Flooding Risk etc...
Naturally led to reviewing Sunny Airport Data & something odd stared back at tbb.
This anomaly was on the bloody 2nd last page of 175 pages mind you! Arghh!
http://eisdocs.dsdip.qld.gov.au/Sunshine%20Coast%20Airport%20Expansion/E...
2014 - B5-174 Airport & Surrounds (FLOODING)
Table 5.5i Cumulative effects on the Flood Regime.
Project Name : Sand Extraction Areas or (For our purpose WSL Wave Pool site)
Comment on potential for cumulative Flood Impacts.
"The removal of Sand from the Floodplain is unlikely to reduce the Floodplain Storage Capacity, and therefore is not expected to negatively affect the Flood Regime near the Project."
Firstly! tbb reckons this was pointed out to Don only recently > @ PFAS Pipeline?
( They're saying WSL Wave Pool won't flood their Airport ) Massive Approval Tick!
Interpretation is massive...
Being that The Sand Quarry & site sand can morph as Giant Pool & canals.
CP (removes/piles/swaps) Sand for = River canals & pool as Negligible Flood impact.
The Lake & canal design is governed by the sand network as to not adversely impact .
The sand links to Creek to River to Ocean to Mountains = 100% Blue Heart resource.
Don's quicksand slithers thru most realms to flow thru Govt planning constraints.
Which in turn affords the site the Community Open Space Quota +(Gains pad credits)
A Clay site is worth $1 but with a Massive State Sand Quarry it's worth $1b.
Good guy Don will likely demand Clean Fill as a return for freely mining Qld's sand.
Anna must kick start Covid projects to flog off Sand for her Synagogue buddy Don.
tbb is nicely implying what we all know...The pair share Money + Events regularly.
Once Sand Quota is swapped the site morphs with Blue Heart Wave Pool Canals.
No! It's not good news but we now know why a Wave Pool or Ski-Lake is required.
We also know why Don kept the site until more Jewish pals - WSL could dive in.
re: WSL = White Star Line > World Surf League > White Shoe Line is the same thing.
PS: tbb may need to engage Sunny Groups on this curved ball...
It just means that groups need to focus less on Flooding but more on Blue Heart .
(That's more their thing!)...It's best that Community are up to speed.
WSL planning approvals were basically half ticked by State as a Sand Quarry.
tbb doesn't wanna dig that up just yet...but yeah! Locals could be sniffing out CCC
Did whoever gazette that Sand Quarry know of White Shoe Brigade meal ticket?
Aug News updates + Live Q&A
5th Aug -Surf Ranch Accessible Plans ..only tbb read them & has nothing to add!
https://www.surfranchsunshinecoast.com.au/surf-ranch-reveals-plans-to-ma...
11 Aug - Kelly urges Premier to Tick it...Greenie Stalls + Red Tape
13 Aug -WSL commissioned Lucid Economics...
https://www.surfranchsunshinecoast.com.au/surf-ranch-project-to-deliver-...
23 Aug -Local Cr Maria Suarez claims Wave Pool is a gimmick to enable Housing.
https://media.apnarm.net.au/media/images/2020/04/15/v3imagesbin08046e66b...
25 Aug -Wave Pool Layout + Flooding Issues
https://media.apnarm.net.au/media/images/2020/08/25/v3imagesbindd3ddc6a2...
Coolum West Q&A Live Stream (Approx 1hr > Slight delay allow 1min @ Start)
https://www.facebook.com/SunshineCoastEnvironmentCouncil/videos/11699332...
Petition
https://www.change.org/p/hon-kate-jones-please-don-t-open-the-floodgates...
Speakers...
SCEC : Natalie Frost (Intro / End)
OSCAR : Melva Hobson
Development Watch Inc : Lynette Saxton
SCEC : Narelle McCarthy
Surfrider : Stephen James
swellnet crew also thank Friends of Yaroomba + Coolum Residents Association.
*Sunshine Coast approved Wave Pool Zones (Re cap)
Beerwah East > re: (2004 Adventura) + (2014-20 Actventure -Current!)
Quarries (Most redundant Quarries are considered)
Quanda Lake (Water Skiing) can be expanded (North) for a Large Wave Pool.
Quanda Lake is only 1km North -across the road uphill from Current WSL proposal.
The Lake is approved for National Arena Events..
Thanks TBB, just watched the Coolum West Q&A Live Stream replay, great information.
I'm still lost as to why there is so much negativity around these wave pools.
I live on the Sunshine coast. Have done all my life. Been surfing here since 1983.
For those who aren't from here - our surf is annoyingly inconsistent!
Crowds are growing all the time.
Secret spots are fewer.
I haven't gone into the details of the wave pools proposed, but on the face of it, i would love to see an artificial wave somewhere on the coast. I would happily pay for a few fun waves after two months of northerlies in November. Or after a month of sub 1 foot waves in winter.
Sure, it isn't the same as surfing in the ocean, but when the ocean isn't providing, its a good alternative.
And its another spot to help thin the crowds out.
For those who aren't into surfing in a wave pool, its simple - don't go there.
Why are so many people against it?
As a former Peregian resident with family still living there, I totally agree with what you've just said and I dont understand the hate either.
The alternative outcome on this site (which is already heavily modified and artificially drained) is a great big sand mine, so I really don't understand all of the negativity given the permitted alternative.
Its like if you're a surfer you must automatically hate any kind of new development, mostly because it's going to impact on our own selfish wish for less crowded surf, like we all aren't already part of the so-called problem of people wanting to live near the beach. Although the ironic thing, as you've pointed out, is that this development has the potential to decrease crowds.
Anyway, you might get some hate for your post, as I typically get for my Friday arvo posts that don't fit the Swellnet forum's narrative!
Sand mine would never get the tick! More chance of Bunnings opneing up a site next to Sakasui. Here's a no brainer, Forget the crap we dont need and for FFS fix the Coolum state school roundabout! That'd be a real sign of progress moving into the 90's s.......errr 2000's
Decrease crowds? Fuck-ing-lol.
Updates
1 Sept - Miles Livingtone Local Tiler & Nose Rider invited Kelly to checkout Coolum.
https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/cw.media/uploadedmedia/GalleryIm...
https://nobodysurf.com/foam-symmetry-noosa-festival-2014/
4 Sept - Qld Shadow Police Minister Dan Purdie LNP member for Ninderry..
$35,000 gaming chips to Nippers in exchange for Re-Election Clubbie Promo Shots.
https://www.facebook.com/DanPurdieMP/photos/pcb.1184640448571435/1184640...
https://scontent.fbne6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/34385718_587919748243511...
Burleigh MP got busted politicizing SLSQ...Typical Qld LNP Blue Rinse vote Buying.
4 Oct 2017 Consolidated Properties paid LNP $46,650 to upzone WSL Wave Pool.
AIP Page 38...
https://aip.asn.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Donations_Queensland_Polit...
Typical ALP/LNP took the bribes! (End of Story so Typical!) { Rubbery Stamp }....WTF...
4 Sept- Local LNP MP Dan Purdie said:
"I share the community's concerns ...Go find another site...Surf Ranch must move on!"
https://www.facebook.com/VoteSustainable/?ref=nf&hc_ref=ARRoFSLnszDMdMnL...
2020 LNP Defending Blue Heart & GC WSR from Hardcore ALP/WSL Whiteshoes?
Who on earth ever thunk in 2020 LNP be holding Surfies & Greenies signs for them?
[ Govt Man sells line in the Sand ]...Cool! Can surf industry brand that!...they just did!
Never thought to take an LNP chill pill for a Blue Heart Attack, do we need a bucket?
Delusional nomination for the gutsiest up front straight call in LNP Qld Politics...(Wot!)
tbb: Think the LNP green chill pill has kicked in!
Eco LNP + GC Train reboot hyperloops WSL & ALP still drooling over Joh's Dirigible.
Call it a Lay Day! Then continue this Wacky race to the bottom of Qld Politics!
Fell down a Rabbit Hole & everything is upside down & back to front, need a lie down!
8 Sept "Tourism Chief Urges State to Embrace Surf Ranch Investment"
https://www.surfranchsunshinecoast.com.au/tourism-chief-urges-state-to-e...
(Note To kids..."This is how fucked up ya gotta be, to land Qld's top jobz.
You'll never suck as much as these guys, best if you throwaway yer careers now!")
CEO of (Qld Tourism Industry Council) taken from WSL site...
* "In a time when new tourism propositions are few and far between, this significant investment must be secured for Qld."
* "I urge the State Govt to take advantage of this well-credentialled organisation's confidence to invest in Qld."
* "This opportunity cannot be lost to another State!"
Now compare that with the creepy WSL guy...
*Stark: "Our Plans would provide the Council & Community with the Blue Heart we all want for the Sunshine Coast!"
(OMG! Someone, somewhere told Stark about The Blue Heart).
So Stark sends out Jetskis to hunt down this Blue Heart for WSL to feast upon.
PS : (2 days later)
Tourism/Development MP for Premier luvs Don's Project...resigned in disgust!
This QTIC creep used to tug at Kate's apron strings...well not anymore, lucky her!
Kids: You're far better off looking at Kate's resignation for your inspiration!
Ask yourselves...for how long does one rubber stamp these idiot's foreheads?
https://beachgrit.com/2020/10/signs-protesting-wsls-billion-dollar-inten...
Great work udo...
All agree beachgrit come good this time...Qldurrz salute respect & commonsense.
swellnet crew salute SCEC [ Ranch Stake Out Gallery]
More Traffic / Wave Pool = Sea of Rooves
https://media.apnarm.net.au/media/images/2020/10/07/v3imagesbin76fb1f7ce...
A Wave Pool will Wipe Out The Blue Heart
https://media.apnarm.net.au/media/images/2020/10/07/v3imagesbinbeb7577d3...
Surfrider nods Beach Grit / SCEC.
https://www.facebook.com/surfridersunshinecoast/
Let's Grow Blue Carbon & Habitat - Not 1500 Houses
https://www.facebook.com/surfridersunshinecoast/photos/pcb.3358705984221...
Urgent! Help STOP Coolum West -Sign The Petition Now.
https://www.facebook.com/surfridersunshinecoast/photos/pcb.3358705984221...
Goldie Salutes a Sunny Classic...OMG That's Essential Covid Art! ... tbb is gonna cry!
https://www.facebook.com/SunshineCoastEnvironmentCouncil/photos/pb.45264...
SURF ResORT Montage to Salute World Rivers Day...GOLD!
https://www.facebook.com/SunshineCoastEnvironmentCouncil/photos/a.462749...
https://www.facebook.com/SunshineCoastEnvironmentCouncil/?fref=mentions&...
And at the same time...
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Development on the Sunshine Coast is having a destructive impact on the region's wildlife, according to a report ranking the region among the worst for habitat destruction.
An Australian Conservation Foundation report recently found habitat destruction for urban sprawl was "fast-tracking the extinction crisis".
It said out of 99 cities, the Sunshine Coast was the FOURTH WORST when it came to threatened species' habitat destruction, with worst affected species being the Australasian bitterns, grey-headed flying foxes and koalas.
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...another Aura slum is just what we need.
16 Oct - NEWS [ Premier not making Waves on controversial Surf Ranch ]
https://todayheadline.co/premier-not-making-waves-on-controversial-surf-...
[ DISCLAIMER ] Qld Premier was paid handsomely to speak on behalf of WSL)
Premier could not make a call if application should be approved.
Govt is yet to decide for 510ha site to be included in Private Development Area.
Premier :
"More community consultation needs to be done!"
"There hasn't been a lot of new tourism infrastructure for some time on S' Coast!"
"Of course I think everybody would like to see a Surf Ranch built, however there are a number of issues that need to be addressed, as part of any development with that Surf Ranch."
"My understanding is that consultation is still happening between the proponent & the community."
"It does mean a lot of jobs, there is that aspect of it, but there does have to be a lot of other community consultation."
CP : "Flood Risks need to be Mitigated."
Stark: "WSL first discussed the project with the Govt 18 months ago."
(Qld calendar = *18 months ago) : Oz Leg 2019...Noosa > (*Goldie) > Bells.
"The organisation had consulted with more than 100 community groups and last year conducted a survey of residents."
"If the application was approved, further consultation would need to be undertaken for further government approvals, including community meetings."
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What Qldurrz actually heard!
Premier's Blue Heart Appeal :
"Please! I urge all Qldurrz to consult generously!"
"WSL needs Truckloads more Consultation for a full scale Blue Heart attack!"
(Premier to entourage)
"Didn't sound too Labored, did it...
QEC Paperbag Trail ... Day 865 "Sunny... Big Tick to myself...
Sure Don! Just leave the money on the Fridge & CCC want you to use the back door."
(Breaking News)
2025 WSL VIP Flood Appeal #63,875 (Heritage Pro Telethon).
1st Caller : "Hi! Kelly here! I'd like to donate Starky's WSL White Board for Auction!"
Danni : "Hearts of gold our WSL Whiteshoes...restores my faith in humanity!"
2nd Caller : Hi Guys! ADF are gonna leaflet drop WSL emergency gift shop vouchers.
Sir Eddie : "That's so generous, this means everybody can now see a Surf Ranch."
We interrupt WSL Telethon with an important Govt message.
[ # Consultation is Compulsory #]
[ # Your Consultation is Precious # ]
Always consult with approved consultation experts prior to community consultation.
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World Surf League ‘could walk away’ from surf ranch.
It has been more than 12 months since the proposal was lodged with the State Government and its developers say they've grown frustrated with the lack of a decision.
Mr Stark said being granted approval would allow World Surf League and Consolidated Property Group the chance to start further community consultation. He said he was looking forward to speaking to new Tourism Minister Stirling Hinchcliffe after a "positive" relationship with former minister Kate Jones.
Consolidated Property Group CEO Don O'Rorke said he feared World Surf League could look to develop elsewhere if a decision was not made soon. "WSL won't hang in forever, there are a lot of places around the country that would like it," Mr O'Rorke said.
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Yes but Mr O'Rorke doesnt own the other blocks of land around the country that they could build them on afaik. Its all about buying land worth 2 10ths's of FALL years ago with the intent to lobby govt over time to then allow them to develop it into something and make the windfall. Without recent success they then attach another idea to it, tell the locals they need to have it and put the SC on the map.
I suggest he do what Bunnings did - sell. I have from Dan Purdies office in writing that "Dan has publicly stated that he does not support the wave park in its current location. He recognises the need to attract privately funded infrastructure projects to create jobs and stimulate our local economy, but not at the expense of our environment. He would like to see the wave park proposal proceed, just not at the proposed location, on a flood plain." I'll be watching with interest!!!
Good work crew, tbb can slot the missing peg here...
1st Oct...(Flashback!)
Local (Ninderry) Labor candidate : Melinda Dodds
https://www.facebook.com/7NEWSSC/videos/365614627899920/
Media portrayed 'Melinda' as going against her Party to defend the Blue Heart.
Media therefore are implying ALP are "still " supporting the Project?
No candidates were running in favour of proposed Surf Ranch! ( It is poison! )
Reaffirming that proposal does not have local support ....politically or otherwise.
LNP won the seat...see spookypt & vid to reaffirm elected member's position.
During Airport EIS flood mitigation this little snippet appeared.
Don's sand Quarry & sand seams permeate water, therefore present as water stores.
Once CP was alerted to this he was on the bat-phone to WSL.."Deal of the Century"
Naturally replace the Sand Quarry with a Wave Pool & Sand seams with Canals!
Don's $2 Toxic Dump site was now worth $2 billion.
Convince Govt that Maroochy River Mouth Upgrade drains the Floodplain just right.
What choice for Govt?
* Listen to locals & local members, all of whom say no way!
* Govt redefines Sand as Land not Sea at the very least for here & not over there!
* Do something no Govt has ever done before & uphold Floodplain Zoning. (A Joke!)
* Blue Heart wellbeing (Habitats) overrides upsetting the site in any event.
This last one seems like the best option as it rolls out more hoops to jump thru.
Don't know what the fuss is about, I've been on the coast for 50 years and laugh at all you newbies thinking you know everything. Those so called wet lands use to be a sugar cane farm until the Government regulated the farmers forcing them to close and I've also seen those farms 3 meters underwater in floods. Yandina Coolum Rd use to be all sugar cane farms. My old man's company owned a lot of that land and wanted to build industrial estates their but the council knocked their application back due to it being a flood zone.
John Dow so your point is??
Exactly. Its flood prone land not to be built on.... Build it inland 20, 30-40k's and make a new tourist/ housing hub. The environment must come first.
Its easy to see this whole development of 'north of the bridge' into flood prone land ties in with a push to rock the maroochy river. With open water access, Look 20yrs into the future where its all cut up for canals and the maroochy becomes a liquid highway for multi million dollar yachts polluting the heart of the sunshine coast. Whats left of a fragile ecosystem is forever ruined for the sake of pierre cardin polo shirt wearing, botox filled posers and the almighty dollar.
Not on my watch....
The argument that it was previously sugar cane fields fails to mention that it was wetlands prior to that again. Wetlands which are becoming increasingly rare and imperilled.
The wetlands can return to their natural state and probably would over time if left to its own devices. An increase in the natural refuge and breeding grounds which is the Australian wetlands systems would not be a bad thing at all.
Certainly better than another unnecessary housing development ( Australia for a sustainable population ! ) and infinitely more important than the circus of a man made wave within a few kilometres of the Pacific Ocean.
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American Wave Machines Franchise 25 mill build
https://www.sunshinecoastnews.com.au/2020/12/24/world-class-wave-park-pl...
Nice Chrissie prezzy udo...hard goin' to sneak a peek thru Qldurr'z censored Paywall.
Luv revenge Wave Pool Porn -
Bain Manor's $25k Noosa wave set, caged in a Hwy Zoo for Brizzos to poke sticks at.
Ok! So a coincidence that similar AWM pool pops up across town 4 months later?
https://www.noosa.qld.gov.au/downloads/file/2387/2020-08-11-planning-env...
New proposed site is home to Saltwater Wild Horse's Big Wednesday paddle in..
Glass House Mountains Surf Park is at Moby Vic's Povesi (re: a pov pavesi)
Coonowrin Ck Lake + Pineapple Plantation across from Water Stn + Zoned Tourism.
Enhancing Sunshine Coast's tourism brand.(Paddock to Plate / marine protection)
Local eg: Coffee Roasting / 100 y/o Pineapple Plantations / Ginger Factory / (WSR)
https://www.thepineapplelink.com.au/
https://www.glasshousemountainscoffee.com.au/
https://www.buderimginger.com/
https://naturesfruit.com.au/products/
Developer "Surf Parks Australia" re: AWM ( US / Japan Olympic Training Pools )
(Note) 2019 WSL Ranch hosted the only "Official Olympic Pool Qualifying Comp"
Pool + Beach is 315m x 92m = 28,980m2 (vs) Hawksbury WSL Pros = 21,525m2
8.5m high Wavy Building & viewing deck overlooks the central pool (open 6am-9pm)
Site Logistics...
AWM Surf Park is closer to Brisbane than Noosa
Sanad Wavepool is 20kms further North at (S'Coast/H'land Tourist drive)
https://www.sanadcapital.com.au/post/development-of-major-sunshine-coast...
This exit has Iconic dual N/S 24hr Servo / Maccas + H'Jacks + Subway etc..
1. Tradies 2. Fluro Crew 3 Blue Collar 4. Vans 5. Truck Stop o/n
1. Toilet break 2.Coffee + Coffee 3.Fuel 4.Burgers + Burgers + Grub.
Train Stn could work a 5km "Surf Park Shuttle...for City Office + Grom Safaris.
Surf Park Motorway Tradie Surf Crew or East Coast Kombi itinerary.
Note: Oz Wave Pools at Theme Parks / NT-Portfront / Vic-Airport
This Pool + next North (Sanad) hint at Mwy Waterpark turnstyle or combo ticket.
Good: Site is flat out with Tradies on smoko.
Poor: There is nothing else for miles (There is No local crew around here?)
This looks like they're sugar shacking Brizzos to take out revenge on Sunny.
No VIP Noosa North Shore Wave Spa...Now we hijack your Brizzo - Sunny surfari.
Sunny Tradies can buy 1hr extra surf on the way home from lighting up Briz Vegas.
w/e am Brizzo crew +(Possible onshore wind pm Sunny crew)
Note: Brisbane Train / Bus Timetable rules out earlybird sessions before Work.
Earlybird = Tradie Cars Only + most Tradies need to start early to get in Arvo Surf?
Not many Gromz can treadly here + Not a Tourist Drive overpass as such?
However it is the closest (decent) Learn 2 Surf Venue to Brisbane.
Dedicated unit could run daily cashed up earlybird [L] Surf'n'Massage Packs
Has to run like clockwork or it fails as soon as it begins.
All tourists are tipped off on legendary Bruce Hwy standstill pm Servo Jams.
https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/shell-pumps-new-life-into-mob...
~~/(C`...(The Big Wave) [ Next Exit ] Crew are not gonna drive past the next big thing!
"Wave park surges towards reality at Moby Vic's after final documents submitted"
https://www.sunshinecoastnews.com.au/2021/04/09/wave-park-surges-towards...
Much better wave and location than Kelly's at Coolum.
Well done Sprout! Apart from surfing some very nice 3ft outer peaks today on my own for 2hours this is the 2nd best thing to happen to me all day! What I also like is its not a proposal to cloud the real agenda...building houses on flood prone land thats useless for anything but what for it is. Imagine the traffic snarls now with all the blowins going back to Bris on sundays LOL
Yeah spooky how fun was this morning!
Totally, keeps the briso filth south of the coast too haha.
Deputy Premier Steven Miles said, in response to a question on notice by Ninderry MP Dan Purdie, that the project was in the due diligence process.
"The Palaszczuk Government strongly supports projects that create jobs and attract people to beautiful parts of our state like the Sunshine Coast," Mr Miles said.
"A development such as the proposed surf ranch at Coolum needs to be in the right location and sensitive to the surrounding environment."
Mr Purdie asked the government what it had done to assess the impacts of the development, including to flooding.
"I understand council has been urging the State Government to find a more suitable location for the development based on a range of concerns," he said.
"Development Watch and other community groups have raised legitimate concerns about flooding and the environment, and I share their concerns.
"While the wave park ticks a lot of boxes, I am concerned about over development and congestion."
https://www.sunshinecoastnews.com.au/2021/08/06/massive-wave-park-projec...
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Developer Sanad Capital, which already has approval for the long-awaited tourism drawcard, this week lodged major infrastructure plans for the site on Steve Irwin Way at Glenview. This encapsulates bulk earthworks, civil works, drainage, stormwater, vegetation clearing, road access and carparking and could mean a project start date is just months away.
Sanad’s plans incorporate a 160-villa family resort called Invigorate, a water park (Actventure) and wave pool (Endless Surf). Sunshine Coast Council will now have 45 working days to look at the infrastructure plans and then the more detailed design work on buildings will follow. Mr Sutherland said much already had been done on this and he hoped the detailed design would be signed off by the end of September.
“We want to work on many of the elements simultaneously and open everything at Christmas in 2023.’’
“In accordance with council’s approval and before construction can commence, a number of further permits and infrastructure is required.”
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Just 20km south, at Moby Vic’s Glass House Mountains, the wave pool project proposed by Surf Parks Australia also is advancing. It is applying for a material change of use that would allow two rural-zoned parcels to be used for tourism. The Public Notification period, where people can make submissions, is underway.
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Anyone up in the Coolum region - how's the proposed development area looking under this season's flooding rains? Particularly interested in the next week or so, given the rainfall of the last 36 hours (with more to come).
I was driving past yesterday thinking ha good luck with that development. Lots of water. Could drive a tinny around in it.
Just asked my sister who is elevated and looks west and she says nothing out of the ordinary. Bit of water around but not a lake. They did have around 100mm+ around there
Significant rainfall for next 3 days SEQ/Northern NSW > moderate rain hangs a bit longer.
Looks like BOM will need to adjust the Flood Warnings by Thursday morning
*Keep off the Roads
Tues/Wed Sunny Coast 300m (Nambour Showgrounds Flood Shelter Open)
Wed morning Maroochy River flooding from Kiamba down to Yandina.
https://www.sunshinecoastnews.com.au/2022/02/23/severe-weather-alert/
Wed Night (Tonight) Sunshine Coast 200mm
Tip (Goldie is having moderate random heavy downpours thru Wed night)
We'll get some localized flooding come the morning into Friday > eye on Northern NSW
Midnite Radar shows large wide solid front hitting Sunny pretty soon into Thursday am.
Flood Warning for the Maroochy River rising across the catchment
BOM has locked in moderate Flooding...(Locals would allow for upper range tide Peak!)
Thursday 10:am (Next) BOM Sunny Coast Weather / River / Flood Warnings
Coolum Ck (Early morning High tides climbing from 1.5m >2m)
Wave Pool site rain peaks Thursday > Creek Flooding possibly creeps up Friday early morn.
http://www.bom.gov.au/qld/warnings/
Thursday : Should be enough rain & flooding to halt most local SEQ proceedings.
Just happen to need to drive past there bout 1hr ago. Probably shouldn't have been on the road - very wet.
Drove along the Sunshine Motorway, hence the eastern (left) boundary of this screengrab from their website.
I think these pictures are of inside the actual property and show no real flooding:
I believe these pics are that area just to the south of the property (so the upper-left part of the above pic) and show some usual minor flooding:
Apologies for the quality (take it up with my passenger..!).
Of course the pics show only a tiny fraction of the overall property (just that eastern square bit visible from the road).
Salute gsco ...get a reward for above & beyond risk factor.
Lot of Flood photos needs a lot of current Flood Reports to back it up...
20-25th Aug 2021 -23rd Jan 2022 Sunshine Coast Flood Mapping
https://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/floodmapping
https://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/Living-and-Community/Community-Safe...
Council are gearing toward individual Flood Mitigation. (Based on Hawkesbury - Nepean Flooding)
eg: Flood damaged Dwelling may need rezoning as a new structure & certification (Re-Development)
Following below reveals the cost to keep Flood Resilient may double Housing Costs.
(Guideline for improving flood resilience for "existing" development)
General Considerations (Major Shift of onus towards individual)
*Preventing Flood Waters from Entering
* Increasing Floor Levels
* Avoid increasing flooding on others
* Vehicle / Power / Evacuation access.
* Safe working environment
(Guideline for improving flood resilience for "new" development)
There is an odd overarching blanket assessment that relates to upzoning Floodplain proposals.
(Preservation of Storage) > Code = Cumulative Impacts applied across significant flood plain lots!
Lower densities or Sprawl = Associated Flood storage impact is greater.
Higher Res / Commercial / Industrial densities = Associated Flood Storage impact is less.
Council argue upzoning = Best Flood Storage > without mentioning Mass evacuation & Homelessness!
Flood costs to Sunny are unsustainable > Need to become a Flood "Resilient" Community
Words like Mitigation / Prevention are replaced by Flood storage, resilience & response.
Guide Only but also contains "Council Approvals" so this is where Future Flood mitigation is headed.
Repeat that Flooded & New Dwellings will likely need "Flood Resilience Certificates" (Not Cheap!)
Crew should check out the sketches for all existing & new buildings being elevated above Flood Levels.
Sunny Housing Costs will soar to comply...
Tumbling Glass House Mountains to the sea to then reshape them into Blue Heart egg cartons.
Council advocate a sea of 1.2m-1.8m perimeter walls so developers can easily pack out the flood plain.
Council guy has concerns of Wall height on top of "Sealed Perimeter Walls"
Without fencing, neighbours have zero privacy but with fencing - a dangerous canyoning drop effect.
You see! Much thought has gone into this...pretty sure it will become policy.
(Important) Council will first allow 50m3 fill for each House/Duplex site, extra 3ft fill for Car ramp.
Multi Level Apartments fill quantities require consideration ( Flexible / Mayoral Donations etc....)
Naturally this applies to Full perimeter secured properties.
Govt > Council > Developer > buck pass individual Flood onus to precedent Floodplain development.
Not Law yet! But it looks certain as 80% of these docs are geared toward dwelling compliance.
Ominous sign! VIP residents take up the DIY flood plain fill offer spells the end for Green / Blue Hearts.
1,000's of residents would leap to dump fill on home site to be flood ready...later mandate it for all.
Before you know it, the whole floodplain is developed & each are responsible for neighbour's flooding!
Just slope yer pool down towards curb, as flood recedes ya dive down & pull the plug for sump truck.
Tradies know that filling & solid perimeter walls requires around 6x Quarries than for previous housing.
The cost of tumbling Glass House Mountains down for a seachange resistance won't wash.
Crew can read Council is buck passing floods onto individual storage compliance to sue yer neighbour.
All are soon responsible for every drop of water coming off yer site.
Only wealthy can afford this and Flood Compliant Property prices will soar > poor may be evicted.
Real estate agents hover over carcasses, Idea being to demolish rezone & sell as new Flood Resilient.
eg: Flood Wall $2,000m2 > (Council Annual Flood Wall & fill Inspector $1,500 fee) VIP upgrades!
Developer will hook a Govt Palmy Army project for his Blue Heart emergency perimeter wall.
Mayor : "We can waive the fee + throw in a Glass House Mountain to mince up for some cheap fill."
Council Boffin : "Possible negative outcome from the walled streets". (Now he says that!)
*Qld Govt Wetland Info (Upgrade)
https://wetlandinfo.des.qld.gov.au/wetlands/ecology/processes-systems/wa...
tbb will weed thru this seemingly innocent Govt info, for site relevance.
Govt Update, details neighbouring area as they are also currently reviewing this wavepool proposal.
This type of info was once recently available by freedom of request & public access seems too casual.
There's quite a bit of shady background detail being casually fed into the Blue Heart flood dynamics.
Recommended Reading (Chapters)
*Lower Doonan - Coolum Creek
*Coolum Coastal Creeks
Don refers to Quanda Park as setting precedent for WavePool / Development (Reminder as to why...)
Quanda Sand Quarry Lake Development is on neighbouring upper north property feeding into WSL site.
Qld Govt Quanda industrial land bank was recently rebranded as premier (Coolum Eco Industrial Park)
*Quanda Lake was formed from a former Sand Quarry (Massive precedent)
*Quanda Lake water is naturally disinfected by the natural tannin & safe for Skiing & Water Park.
(Note property is higher up the creek but currently closed due to Flooding thru this weekend)
*Govt Sand Quarry fill was used as a building pad for "Qld Govt Quanda Industrial Estate
*Resulting in the narrowing of Flood Plain (Reminder : Sand is not land but deemed as Flood storage)
*Flood Overflows have increased after the development of Quanda Park
*Primary Flow > drains down thru eastern side of WSL site into Coolum Creek STP Wetlands
*Treatment wetlands have been constructed at & thru Quanda Park > Coolum Ck STP.
*Note the WSL Coolum Drain is basically on old open cut Cane drain...not eco anything.
*Coolum Ck transitions from low flow fresh algal (River mouth closed) to Estuarine (River mouth open)
*Quanda Park Overflow drains into Stumers Creek, a man made drain with Ocean outfall.
*Small parts of Stumers Creek have not been flood mapped (Possibly the Golf Course leg..re: Google)
What is left out is that Qld Govt keep filling & expanding their so called Eco Park...meaning...
Crew can read where Don feels he's got precedent & favour as Quanda drains thru his site.
If these facts are right then Govt keep flooding Don's land more so each expansion...(A problem?)
Any development monitoring reveals flooding & industrial contaminants poisoning his land...(Compo!)
Smells like ultra white shoe two step...Don brought cheap land knowing he has the Govt on the ropes.
tbb earlier thought Sand Quarry bonus was boss but Govt flooding & poisoning of site holds more sway.
The token transaction was dodgy, so what is the importance of this central flood plain land & to who?
No secret that Jewish Don bankrolls Jewish Premier & now partner central Sunny Flood Developments
Semitics: Could be that White Shoe Line Anna is counting on chaber Don to mop up her Govt slops.
This way, only pal Don gets a whiff of Anna's dirty laundry > Eco park remains stainless.
tbb is being serious ...Ask!
Who flies from USA & buys under a Flight Path / Industrial Park / Poo Plant to build #1 Surf Resort.
You see! It makes no sense to sniff shit all day during a surf session.
Govt don't usually encourage major resorts near a Poo factory...mostly Golf Links if anything.
C'mon crew! That is the giveaway here ...Players are pumping wastewater towards WR WSL Wavepool.
This is no accident that this enormous WR wave pool is the blue hearted elephant in the room.
Giant wave pool can filter out Eco Park / Airport nasties enabling further Govt floodplain expansion.
Not just saying that, Wastewater Plants have advised wavepools or aeration for natural UV Osmosis.
Urbnsurf filter out Airport stormwater...this is very real & already happening with crew surfing it!
None care that unvaxed foreign covid muck washes off plane stair rails to then fill Vic wave pool.
Covid can survive in Cold water for very long periods...not saying this is the case but deserves thought!
Don't think it's an accident that this Pool is in the poo...Tertiary treated natural filtered & final rinse.
Noting the tannin run off also has free antibacterial properties.
Don will line up all the town's dirty folk to hook into his Blue Heart Wave Pool Filter.
The Wave Pool is the giant bargaining chip...all in the rogues gallery win a Blue Heart Badge.
WSL Dirigible hovers overhead...wot does the crew see...look hard...
A wavepool soiled by that Sunny Poo Factory (or) A shit hot Blue Hearted Wave Pool
Don crapped on about cleaning up the Blue Heart perhaps he isn't shitting us!
Scratch my back will ya...likely why this proposal has lasted this long without so much as a peep.
Also why Tourism heads / Union Bosses are muscling only this "Wave Pool?" FFS...it's A1 laundering.
Possibly also why our Premier can't shake that toxic stench of corruption that wafts about her.
Oct 2022 Update.
Stockland vs Sunny Coast Council ( Appeal denied! )
Maroochy River "Northside" Blue Heart Lake Development ( South/East of Surf Ranch)
Stockland Blue Heart Lake Development ( Surf Ranch sits lower & more remote in N/W floodplain )
27 hectares = Open Space + 1.05m cubic metres Lake (Counter Clockwise Flow > 900mm pipe)
54 hectares = 584 residences
4.5 Hectares = 2 medium density Lots (1 m/d Stage 2 Lot is to be reconfigured into 169 Lots)
1 Hectare = Community Facility / Commercial Space
Sunny Coast Council Conclusion...
*Proposal does not demonstrate protection & enhancement of Blue Heart ecological sustainability.
*Real prospect of detriment to or destruction of Wetland if appeal be allowed.
*Not consistent with low density character of adjoining residential community (600-800m2 lots)
https://archive.sclqld.org.au/qjudgment/2022/QPEC22-030.pdf
Consolidated Properties Response
Web Site is still absent of recent news...unsure if stonewalling for 2 years is very neighbourly?
However...News media went looking for Don's response.
28th Sept 2022 Newscorp Titles ( Subtitles available only) ...perhaps crew can track this story.)
Surf Ranch Hodad Don :
"The Stockland Appeal fail has not deterred us!"
"Flood Mitigation is Possible!"
"We can unlock the benefits!"
"We will continue to explore...because the site is outside the SC Council's Urban Footprint!"
Qldurr tbb is merely sharing that Surf Ranch may be sitting idle but is still up on the White Board!"
Don's timely reply is post Coachella Pool knockback fallout + also Lemoore Arena approval!
So it was fitting for local media to seek a response.
Govt's get free 2028/2032 (WSL funded 24/7 Live prime time Olympic Covid Camp / Arenas!)
WSL frees up money for : Baseball Arena + Free (WSL) SLS / Surfing exhibition sports!
Beach stadiums would Cost $50m on LA / GC without any Covid Camp or ongoing seafront Legacy!
If QLD were to run 2032 Surfing / SLS > Then both / either would need to stand on their own...
Being cost neutral may just save them...crew know Starky & Don have a plan to save Olympic Surfing!
X Factor is still very much the Blue Heart Wild Card.
Recently visited this area. Enjoyed a cold beer chesting the bar @ Mudjimba and watching planes prepare for landing at the Sunshine Coast Airport. Ahhh the serenity. Parts of Pacific Paradise and Mudjimba are a throwback to the 70's; real Sunshine Coast gems. What a pity it would be a gentrify, but I agree TB - I reckon "Consolidated Properties" is not giving up anytime soon - especially with Olympics on the horizon. (Nice name for a business - bland and meaningless, but dangerous all the same).
Here's some articles on the above.....
https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/sunshine-coast/world-surf...
https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/sunshine-coast/stockland-...
tbb is asking fellow Sunny Qldurrz to spill the beans on yer Surf Ranch
Lack Lustre Goldie crew can only muster this sad lot.
Early Feb 2023 (Recent!) Various dates...( Paywall News)
SEQ (Various) Newscorp Paywalls : "How developer could walk away from site!"
Don : "I won't stand in the way of Community Opposition!"
State Govt : "Proponents of controversial Kelly Slater Surf Ranch have pulled out!"
"Consolidate Properties is no longer pursing it's proposed Surf Ranch development at Coolum West!"
Additional : "Mention of The Blue Heart"
News reports...sources...
https://www.facebook.com/thesunshinecoastdaily/photos/a.60333822260/1015...
https://www.couriermail.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=CMWEB_WRE170...
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Goldie crew could also dug up this blurb from the local member...backing up the Govt claim.
11th Feb 2023 : MP Purdie : "Developer withdraws proposal for Surf Ranch at West Coolum"
Scroll down to this Photo / Banner
https://scontent.fbne6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/327717402_940852550...
https://www.facebook.com/DanPurdieMP/
Quite a few Comments on this page...we can share those.
https://www.facebook.com/DanPurdieMP/
One local shared a Flooding Map
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=5904284496292927&set=p.590428449...
tbb wouldn't normally ask...but Council / Community groups are not running this story...
Please! If fellow Qldurrz can share more with the crew on Sunny Surf Ranch wipeout...be real cool!
According to the Courier mail It's official now TB.
https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/sunshine-coast/consolidat...
Qldurrz thank cousin Viccos for upskirting our Banana Curtain to stab the beast clotting our Blue Heart.
We're just Shrooms fed on Murdoch / Costello Rat Poison...
Qldurrz salute icandig for tip off 'bout the Sunny Wave Pool War X Files
We local lot can afford a quick 2nd hand squizz at Oscar... (Sure!) Sunny Gurlz ~ Maria...for the Win!
* Can't rule out yer undercover Vicco - Sunny Gangsta Granny stealing our WSL Wave Pool?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-09/gangsta-granny-viral-on-tiktok/10...
* Excellent Outcome / Win for community & Environment
* Feb 2023 State Govt declare CP walked away from 510ha Surf Ranch Development
* Friday 8th Dec 2023 CP announce sale to SCC for $6m
* CP 'believes' SCC are incorporating the land into Blue Heart buy back scheme
Pause! That last one right there don't sound right...(Believes!) It either is 100% or not at all.
CP are super heroes & Council our Saviours! (No wishy washy Xmas Bonus about it!)
Summary : There is zero CP / SCC / Div 9 / Free news or Promo on this $6m Blueheart Buyback
(Unusual)
* Usually supa Dodgy stuff is signed off on last minute end of year Council / Govt Business
* Council Staff on Holidays > New Year Handover?
* Enviro - Civic Ceremony delayed to exploit upcoming election Blue Heart Attack?
Ok! We innocents can believe that or...
* Something else is worth $6m ( re: State / Council Sand Quarry)
* Also consider Glamping Approvals around here & Other Sanad Wave Pool / Aussie World
* Site centres all Sunny enviro trails + Close to Beach / River / Mwy
* Some kinda Govt Yuppie Housing Rort?
Just saying that this is being played down for some dodgy reason! (Lesser of 2 evils!)
Sunny Mayor should be showboating this as his Enviro Legacy Centrepiece...Wot gives!
https://www.facebook.com/OSCARSunshineCoast/
https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/sunshine-coast/sunshine-c...
"The Sunshine Coast Council had a secret discussion over a land bid after the mayor declared he had received electoral donations from a developer who wanted to build a Kelly Slater surf ranch on the site."
Stark's brown paper bag wasn't big enough.
"upskirting our Banana Curtain"
Gold. LMAO.
I can smell the stench from here and its blowing south west.
"upskirting our Banana Curtain" fucking gold hey
That's right crew...Qldurrz thank you for yer wake up call & support
How the hell are potential Olympic Surf Sites playing out as World Politico Hot Spots!
In light of today's Qld Bombshell...crew are right to smell out a bunch of bent bananas!
Jewish State with US backing cross the line & cops condemnation.
Qld Jewish Premier walks a fine line with Jewish CP / WSL rezoning & cops condemnation.
Qld Jewish Premier flicks $6m to SCC to buy out Jewish CP / WSL swampland ...next day she retires!
Don : "I understood the council was incorporating the land into the Blue Heart!
tbb shared Whiteshoe Brown paperbags swapping hands on this property without a Gold Spade in sight!
Again...why here & why only these Olympic ideal Surfing frontlines are sinkholes!
Likely that neither will see a Surfboard ever again...pure insane it is!
Jewish Premier's last developer donation was from Jewish Consolidated Properties WSL Wave Pool
Jewish Premier's last developer donation was to Jewish Consolidated Properties WSL Wave Pool
This site sits as is, in the flood plain outside urban footprint...yet Qldurrz keep paying Jews for Wot! Huh!
Not saying Qldurrz are antisemitic ...equally not sayin' we should ignore Qld Jewish influence!
Be wrong to ignore home truths in light of current frontline news is now frontline Qld news!
Current World Jewish Conflict is poisoning Qld Politics that flows thru this Wave Pool site as tbb writes.
How or Why Qldurrz must pay WSL $6m for Bullying us...is likely why our Premier just resigned!
Coz no one can see how we victims must continually pay to be Bullied by White Shoe League...
Check their next rort...WSL bullying Cooly WSR for Private Yuppie Rave so 30,000 can piss in WSR.
WSR submissions and WSR councilors argued & voted against VIP Closed Shop bullying out locals.
Leaders rubber stamp WSR stealing millions of bucks off our local commerce ... off our families!
WSL will walk away with $10m off SEQ for simply locking us out from our Waters & shitting over us.
Qldurrz had enough of these VIP Yuppie shitheads...WSL can donate $10m to War Victims then fuck off.