Longboarders, legropes, and a dirty big laceration

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Stu Nettle (stunet)
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Two years ago Swellnet ran an article titled Longboarders, Legropes, and the Law. It was inspired by an encounter with a flying, leashless longboard at Manly Beach and explored the legal avenues available to lifeguards and victims of stray boards.

As it happens, there's very little recourse available; lifeguards cannot stop anyone paddling out without a legrope, and victims can only sue under extreme grounds. The matter all comes down to civic responsibility and individual commonsense. Two qualities that went missing at a certain Sydney beach yesterday morning...

While surfing his local early yesterday, Old Mate (fella was reluctant to give his real name) was faced with a runaway longboard on his first paddle out. Hadn't even caught a wave! He tried to fend it off with his arm but got king hit in the head instead.

The mal rider assisted him to the beach "then skulked off with no further assistance or care". Two other guys helped organise an ambulance. Old Mate went straight into surgery, the results of which can be seen in the photo below.

The reason our wounded friend didn't want to be named is 'cause "he didn't want to roast anyone." A magnanimous gesture given the outcome. So, rather than gathering the pitchforks let the photos serve as warning to all: wear a fucking legrope in crowded surf.

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kellyslater Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 10:05am

Just in crowded surf? Wear one ALL the time unless you are the only one in sight

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chickenlips Saturday, 14 Feb 2015 at 12:40am

Jarrod Howse? I just wanna be an East coast! Sluuuuut! Volvo driving count!!!

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zenagain Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 10:11am

Ew, glad I haven't had brekky yet.

Don't worry mate, your hair will cover that up in six months.

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top-to-bottom-bells Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 10:28am

Very funny Zenagain.

If you want to avoid these twits you've got to start surfing rock breaks. You don't see too many without leggys at Winki.

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Rabbits68 Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 10:33am

And that goes for those short board summer heros who seem to think that just because it's boardshorts weather that the legropes can come off too. Longboard or shortboard, as the article stated "just wear a fucking legrope"!!!

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benski Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 11:01am

word.

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rat-race Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 11:05am

I was teaching my daughter to surf at the Farm back over the Xmas break. We had a great time and then decided to go for a swim/splash in the shallows.
Same story, Ol mate out the back came a cropper, no leggie. Mal coming sideways towards my daughter and some other poor little tacker.
Lucky for the kids (and the mal rider) i was able to put myself between the board and the kids. It wasn't traveling at great speed but was bouncing around a bit. I managed to grab a rail before it hit me.
I didn't think much of it at the time, (probably because it is becoming more normal to see....) but that board could have done some serious damage to one of those kids.
If i see someone surfing without one again, i think I'll say something.

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stunet Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 11:40am

It was a similar situation that motivated me to write the initial longboarders and legropes article. It was around the time I was introducing my eldest boy to the ocean and if it had've been him that got hit the result could've been ugly. Doesn't bear thinking about.

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rat-race Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 11:47am

The strange thing about the time i saw it happen was that it was "peak" season. There was so many people bathing and surfing in the water that it beggars belief that you could choose not to wear a leggie for the sake of others. "If" the surfer in question lost his log, it was almost certain that it would "interfere" with another human.
As with most things, it will probably take someone getting seriously maimed or hurt for things to change.

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zenagain Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 1:40pm

I dunno rat-race, that photo above looks like a pretty serious maiming.

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longboarder420 Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 11:52am

I know they shoudlent have too, But I think the problem is uneducated beach goers / surfers . Do your kids know how to duck dive ??

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rat-race Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 2:29pm

No. She is six yrs old. Also, she didn't have a board. She was "wading" in 2ft of water (which to her is just over waist deep). Simply, if ol mate was wearing a leggie (at this very crowded beach), then it would not have been a near miss. End of story.

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Go left Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 11:06am

"then skulked off with no further assistance or care"

Top Aussie shearer...give him a roasting for bailing on ya..

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johnson Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 11:35am

Last week a leash-less hipster-type longboarder blatantly dropped in on me out at Currumbin - only to fall off. His board kept going sans-skipper, tracking perfectly out on the wave face for a few seconds before going over the falls and I just barely ducked under it as it brushed the side of my head. The guy just gave me a shit-eating grin as I paddled past as if to say "How fun was that party wave" - he had no clue or care how close he came to knocking me out.

A few days later I saw a friend of my Dad's who told a similar story from the Pass, and then he showed me his skull which looked pretty similar to the photo above.

It's really not that hard to understand - unless the beach is totally deserted - wear a fucken legrope! What makes it worse is that the trendy-longboarder types who like to go leashless are also the ones who consider wave-sharing the ultimate in symbiotic surf stoke - regardless of how much the person being dropped in on protests.

I think it's time we all start calling these people out in the line-up and letting them know that it's not acceptable. These individuals are right up there with anti-vaxxers it terms of not giving a fuck about other people.

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Blunted Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 11:50am

for god sakes, some surf company give this aussie legend a free t-shirt or something, for taking one on the head and for being as cool as not to roast the uber cool anti-leggy wearing skulker

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simba Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 12:29pm

Yeah the one that hit me and fuked my back skulked off as well,fukin cowards.The big question is WHY not wear a legrope,brain dead,and should be held accountable.

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uncle_leroy Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 1:02pm

It would be good to see a few rather large signs up at certain spots, Byron, Noosa, North NSW, mind north coast points, city beaches etc

NO LEG ROPE ?
FARK OFF!!!!

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enjoying the view Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 1:15pm

Since when did my (our) safety come second to your fashion. Wear a leash people.
Perhaps taking the next stray board as a souvenir whilst the owner takes the slow swim in pursuit........????

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the-spleen Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 1:26pm
enjoying the view wrote:

Since when did my (our) safety come second to your fashion.

Hopefully going legrope free passes like every other fashion has.

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Channel bottoms Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 1:21pm

Which beach did this happen at?

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madwax Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 1:45pm

What an Fwit for skulking.....if you ever see him again snap his board in two. Funnily enough they are normally the mal riders who cant surf. That wound could have been elsewhere and a lot worse...

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uncle_leroy Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 1:48pm

http://stabmag.com/dried-salt-sydney/
Patrick Parker, 17, Queenscliff
Jarrad Howse, Freshwater, 36
Shaun Martin, 34, North Steyne
PUT A LEGGIE ON !!!

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Blowin Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 4:42pm

That was the single worst surfing article I've ever laid eyes on. Not so much the concept of which boards punters are riding, it was the whole dolly magazine " shop the look " and brand focus.
Made me feel a little bit squeamish to tell you the truth.

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surfingbymyself Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 1:53pm

I'm all for souveniring or 'accidental' damage in cases of leashless surfing around other people. Normal conventions of justice and regard for others clearly don't apply and the risk warrants a harsh lesson

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Dave Drinkwater Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 2:11pm

I surfed the Pass at Byron yesterday with my 12 year old son and i asked a few guys why no leg rope? It just feels good, you know retro man. 80 people in the water and mals flying everywhere, I'm surprised no one was not seriously hurt. If you surf alone go for it, crowded wear a leg rope. You could radically change the course of an individuals life by your board striking someone in the head as illustrated by this poor fellow. In case you are having trouble with the time line its 2015 not 1975..

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zenagain Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 2:18pm

It's all true Dave, but the message is lost on these idiots.

And while the media continue to glorify this stupidity by posting pics and vids of fedora wearing, open shirts a fluttering in the breeze while soul-arching their way back to 1975 pin-heads, it aint gonna get any better.

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udo Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 2:26pm

Unfortunately its going to take a brutal bashing to get it to sink in to these fuckwits.
Do any hipsters surf Maroubra without a legrope ?

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batfink Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 8:43pm
udo wrote:

Unfortunately its going to take a brutal bashing to get it to sink in to these fuckwits.
Do any hipsters surf Maroubra without a legrope ?

Indeed Udo.

I'm sure you know the answer to that one.

Hipsters generally wouldn't be seen dead at Maroubra, Maroubra folk generally wouldn't be seen dead in hipster gear, no-one goes Maroubra without a legrope, and except for this afternoon you rarely see a mal out there.

For all its crowds and quirks, Maroubra has a lot going for it, and this just reminds me of that. No hipsters, no leashless idiots, almost no mals.

Rare earthiness in an uber-cool world.

And I would like to encourage any civil disobedience on this one. I'm not into violence, but picking up the board and running with it is a great idea, putting your fins through it is also brilliant, breaking the farking thing in half if you can is reasonable.

No excuse, wear a farking legrope.

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memlasurf Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 2:32pm

Maybe carry a carpenters style lightweight belt with a small hammer on the side when these idiots are around. When you see a Mal floating past, give it a panel beating including knocking off the fin. At least they will be out of the water for a while.

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fitzroy-21 Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 2:48pm

Well if the law can't/won't do anything about it, it's up to individuals or groups to put a stop to it. I quite like the idea of a small ice pick myself, although somewhat cumbersome. Maybe turning the offenders board over and smashing your fins down into the bottom a few times might send these clowns a message. But I like the idea of just collecting the stray board and taking it with you. Possession is 9/10ths of the law is it not :)

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deathstar Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 2:48pm

way ward legropeless boards at the pass , if they come any where near me . The fin will be knocked out.

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noshow Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 2:55pm

After seeing yet another incident caused by someone selfish enough to surf without a legrope on a busy beach, I can only say thank fuck I live in SA where this ridiculous retro no leggie trend is yet to take off. Now I'm all for surfing different crafts old and new, but seriously - how much difference does wearing a leggie make to the experience as a whole??? I've done it when my leggie snapped a couple of times and I can honestly say I only felt marginally cooler and only minimally more retro during this experience - The trade-off for wearing this small piece of barely noticeable equipment is risk reduction for others in the water, the ability to get you more waves and on top of this has an insignificant amount of impact upon the boards performance whilst on a wave... pretty easy decision in my opinion. Thing is, Just because its in your favourite surf publication or the local hotshot can get away with it, not wearing a leggie is not 'cool' or 'retro' - if anything it shows a shallowness and the sheep like behaviour of following others around you and current publicised trends in order to feel like your doing something 'different'... which, when you think about it is a total contradiction in itself. Perhaps the onus is somewhat on our top grade surfers (both short and longboarders) and surf publications to begin spreading the message that it's actually quite 'bodacious' to wear a legrope - perhaps this will have a greater influence on that easily influenced personality type and in turn we may see a reduction in incidents such as the one in this story? either that or punch this legropeless population in their dicks/female version of dicks when they get back to the carpark.

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wellymon Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 2:59pm

Feeling for ya champ, nasty stuff.
Anyways scars are way better than tatts IMO, they always have a great story behind them. Just flag the "Hipster" bloke with something like the Rebels or Coffin Cheaters.

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adam12 Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 3:13pm

Just as bad IMO are the SUP guys that surf breaks where guys are paddling. Leggie or not, they are the greediest and most dangerous fuckers in the line up on any given day.
I make it my mission to fuck their surf if they fuck mine. Paddle across their line, sit on them, make derogatory comments, drop in, talk about what type of boats I like, hopefully provoke them so i can tell them they should take that thing up a river.

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Sheepdog Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 3:43pm

I think we should have a cull....... ;)
But seriously, some things we can't control.... Some things we can... Even if we thin out the shark population, there still will be attacks..... We can't really control nature....
BUT.. BUT!!!!! We can control our surfboards through the use of a legrope....

I read this quote in an article;
“Leg ropes are dumb, all surfboards were invented without leg ropes, and I’ve never worn one in my life. It’s a personal choice, you don’t need one if you can surf."
Duncan McNicol

Well, Dunc'.... cars were first invented without safety belts, too ya dick......

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seaman-staines Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 7:08pm

Made even more idiotic by the fact I just did a quick google search on this goon and found several pics and videos with him wearing a legrope. Talking himself up as this free living rebel so impressionable idiots follow suit while using a legrope when it suits. You're right Sheepdog he is a dick.

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Dave Drinkwater Saturday, 14 Feb 2015 at 8:14am

Have you seen his page, perfect example of a bogan with decade envy. Unlucky bud you missed the boat by 40 years and yes the waves were good and uncrowded if you are wondering.

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brutus Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 4:26pm

with an increase in the amount of accidents due to no leggies....there is now documentation that ...just to be cool no leggie.....but you do have a duty of care.....and so should the local shire!

its only a matter of time before someone gets seriously injured and a civil court case will take place.......

Local Shires should have bylaw that says ....surfers must wear legropes when surfing. France has made it compulsory to wear leggies..........

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chickenlips Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 6:58pm

Are we on?

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chickenlips Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 7:02pm

Dare I say"etiquette ' in the surf and life in general!! Nothing wrong with having a slide on a Mal! The kooks and heroes who fink they don't need one! Should stay at home and keep posing in front of the mirror! Attention seeking!!!

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Houlie Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 7:44pm

I am dead set sick of theses fuckwit hipsters who think they don't need a leg rope. A leg rope makes no difference to performance, it's all about theses dickwits trying to look cool. Only last week I copped a $70 ding through some super Cool FWit who couldn't live up to the image he was trying to project. The old argument but the original hippies didn't wear leg ropes is void firstly because they weren't invented!! And there was no where near as many people in the water.

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chickenlips Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 8:13pm

Maybe the boys and girls at swell net should give away a leg rope or two! Too the kook of the month! I need one! My address is Kirribillie house! Thank you voters!

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freeride76 Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 8:18pm

I echo the thoughts of those above.......fcukng hell came within a beesdick of being one of the criminals tonight though.

Finished work early and the wife's mid length was in the wagon. Went out for a quick late at the Pass and of course there was no fucking leggy attached to the board.
Friday the 13 wouldn't be a good day to take out some kid at the Pass but luckily I saw a mate and his missus( who was sporting stitches from some kook who threw his board) and he loaned me a leggy.

It was pumping. Put a lazy tenner on Wilko for Snapper. His backhand is the best in the World, he was going alright out there.

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bum_acid Saturday, 14 Feb 2015 at 12:12pm

I've been saying that about Wilko for few years.

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zenagain Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 8:29pm

I reckon Wilko was doing some of the most insane backhand surfing last year. Glad he's back for 2015.

His surfing at J-Bay was mind blowing.

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chickenlips Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 9:52pm

Righton Blowin! That was shiiiiiiit! Gay fucking pumping puss! We need too live without that! Any chance to put your name out there! Fuck you advertising slut!!!!

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paddlepaddleduc... Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 10:16pm

Was the injured Jesse Pinkman? Get Heisenberg to dish out some justice.
The no leggy thing is definitely a public safety issue but why oh why do I never see clubbies/nippers with a leash on their highly buoyant craft? So many times at one of the more popular beaches up here the flags come down and the wedgie brotherhood decide to "train" right where swimmers continue to swim.
So often I have had to grab riderless canoes and paddle boards to stop them running my kids down.
surprised no one has marketed to this sector.

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reecen Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 10:34pm

I hate this argument. Non leggy wearing folk should be marched to the beach immediately. How come surfers as a whole haven't stamped this shit out?
I Don't know why anyone would put up with it at a crowded break. Someone's ego trip could ruin someone's life.
Ego trip is the only thing I can put it down to with not wearing a leggy in a crowd.

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reecen Friday, 13 Feb 2015 at 10:38pm

Just read comments above. Wilkos backhand is the best in the business. Much to the disgust of my fantousy surfer team.

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chickenlips Saturday, 14 Feb 2015 at 1:11am

Will is back hand best in the business?? WTF! Who's cock you sucking? Moron!!!!

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hovercraft Saturday, 14 Feb 2015 at 11:10am

I honestly cannot think of one reason why you wouldn't wear a leggie.

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sam-r Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 1:49pm

bro they rub the hair off your calves... Wilko's backhand tho.......

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bum_acid Saturday, 14 Feb 2015 at 12:11pm

Swellnet legrops articles are like Newscorp anti-cyclist articles.
Like moths to a flame.

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kellyslater Saturday, 14 Feb 2015 at 2:21pm

Don't get started on cyclists

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thermalben Saturday, 14 Feb 2015 at 2:43pm

What, all two of 'em?

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Blowin Saturday, 14 Feb 2015 at 12:16pm

Well said Bum Acid. Except that cycling is a harmless way to get fit and do your bit for preserving the Earth and staying healthy.

Whilst riding your log without a leggie at Manly or The Pass on a crowded day is a selfish and dangerous way to express your egotistical delusion that you're a competent enough surfer to have continuous control of your board.

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 14 Feb 2015 at 12:17pm

Thank God for cold water. And the people around us, who choose to use leggies, they also save long swims. My grom and I get to choose a reasonable peak to ourselves most days; it's all shortboards and leggies for him. While I truly love surfing vintage equipment, it would be negligent to ride it without safety features that can save others.

In overpopulated areas people tend to pursue different, more extreme ways to present themselves so as to differentiate themselves from everyone else. This is why this trend is occuring, and why people buy Citroens in the city, or wear Fedoras, for example.

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adam12 Saturday, 14 Feb 2015 at 2:38pm

Hits like the one pictured are why Gaths were invented. Probably would have helped this guy and I reckon you Dads should all get your groms in them, from day one.
As for hipster, inner city, Fedora wearing, Citroen driving, no leggie loggers, they should probably wear a Gath too 'cause they're just asking for a smack .

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devodave Saturday, 14 Feb 2015 at 5:41pm

If you can grab the loose board smack the fin out and then explain to the idiot not wearing a leg rope that you saved him or her the swim to the beach and the fin would have been popped out on the shore break anyway and then explain that if you are so experience and don't need a leg rope then you can be one of those hipster wankers that ride the boards with no fins. ALWAYS WEAR A LEGGIE IN CROWDED SURF.

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maula Saturday, 14 Feb 2015 at 10:36pm

nobody likes a longboarder

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thebeard Saturday, 14 Feb 2015 at 11:01pm

Well maula, you're not necessarily mister popular either, posting dribble on a Saturday night. Stick to the topic, farkwit

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rrobb Sunday, 15 Feb 2015 at 8:21am

Just a historical note on leg-ropes, bearing in mind most of the above comments are pro-legrope use as, basically, caring at least for the safety of other surfers. I started making and using legropes in 1970. The crudest - a sock around the ankle and some parachute cord tied to the fin. The ultimate a heavy vulcanised rubber tube that garages used to ring a bell and bring service to cars needing fuel. These worked well at Margaret River in all sizes.

Came to Cactus in (?) 1972... anyway, the year that the Aus titles were held in WA so everyone was heading west. Among them Terry Fitzgerald. Who kindly gave me the benefit of a snooty verbal bashing for daring to wear such a damned silly innovation which clearly betrayed my incompetence as a surfer. Of course I was humbled. But I do remember dangling my leash off the headland at Caves as his board trickled away from him at walking-speed+ over the sharp limestone reef before being slighly bashed on the rocks. I always wondered how long it took him to convert. Even Kelly Slate occasionally loses his board. Less than me of course.

Cheers...

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zenagain Sunday, 15 Feb 2015 at 9:28am

Cool story rrobb. Some surfers tend to be a bit sanctimonious at times, just look at these SN forums.

Would have loved to see his face.

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toddC Sunday, 15 Feb 2015 at 1:38pm

got 11 stitches across my eye surfing in Sydney last week and that was from someone wearing a legrope who decided it would be best to chuck his board and dive under rather than duckdiving....legrope or not, i think its more the attitude of the people out there that cause accidents.
yeah potentially wearing legropes minimises risk in most cases but when these guys then decide to wear a leggie and start surfing their 10ft mals in crowded closeouts they are just as dangerous.
personally i don't mind either way if someone wears a legrope or not but they need to understand of the consequences of what they are doing.
i don't think the explosion of "loggers" who have surfed for 1 or 2 years because its cool really get that

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bum_acid Sunday, 15 Feb 2015 at 2:34pm

Exactly.

Been clocked on the head a few times, every single time by a kook or old bloke who doesn't have the strength to duck dive a head high set wave so they loose control of their board. Leg ropes can stretch to 8 feet easy, that's a pretty long distance for a board to travel in a crowded line-up. Especially when some kook just says 'fuck it' and ditches a board.

Scapegoating 'hipsters' is avoiding the issue of the vast kookocracy and the increasing amount of people who can't control their boards let alone actually surf, but somehow manage to read a surf report telling them to head to crowded point breaks..

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thebeard Sunday, 15 Feb 2015 at 3:14pm
toddC wrote:

personally i don't mind either way if someone wears a legrope or not but they need to understand of the consequences of what they are doing.
i don't think the explosion of "loggers" who have surfed for 1 or 2 years because its cool really get that

Couldn't agree more. Don't want to turn this into a new-age-holistic-energy-beams-up-my-ass kinda thing, but recently came to the conclusion it's all ego. I used to surf with mates who would place themselves and the people around the in danger by surfing spots way above ability. At some point I sat out in the line up, looked around me and had no clue what I was doing. I wasn't enjoying it and pretty sure the guys in the line up didn't enjoy it as we were kooking big time. Since then, took it down a notch found myself surfing the not so cool spots, but rediscovered the joy of it. Long story short, be honest to yourself and wear a fucking leggie

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hovercraft Sunday, 15 Feb 2015 at 6:49pm

Agree with above, whenever there is a 6 ft swell predicted every bloke who surfs a handful of times a year dusts his old board off and with his best mate bobs around completely struggling and getting in the way. Then at the same break the next day or week it's average 3ft and half empty ( awesome) and I wonder were those guys are. It's just such a stupid thing.

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burgsurfer Monday, 16 Feb 2015 at 9:51am

I grew up surfing super crowded high quality beach breaks with all sorts of watercraft. There have been a few occasions when other peoples boards have been coming at me without leashes and a number of occasions that they have come at me with leashes. I think that surfers need to know what to do when a board comes at you be it on a leash, be it off a leash - you need to get out of the way! Move over to the side and if you do not have enough time to move out of its way you have to go down as deep as possible and cover your head - bail and defend your brain.

I get what you are saying about those guys who come out the wood works and hit the points / reefs on 3, 4 , 5 star days - they are dangerous. You have to keep away from them, far away from them. Especially when the sets come.

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stunet Monday, 16 Feb 2015 at 10:20am

burgsurfer wrote:

I think that surfers need to know what to do when a board comes at you be it on a leash, be it off a leash - you need to get out of the way! Move over to the side and if you do not have enough time to move out of its way you have to go down as deep as possible and cover your head - bail and defend your brain.

Good advice but not always possible. When I got hit it was in knee-deep water. Longboarder tried to pull into a closeout on a shallow bank twenty metres in front of me.

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freeride76 Monday, 16 Feb 2015 at 1:15pm

Just surfed the Pass the last three days.
I didn't see a leashless board in the line-up (although I'm sure they were out there) so maybe the message is sinking in -

Christ almighty it's a dangerous surf spot though with all the kooks throwing boards left right and centre.

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islandman Monday, 16 Feb 2015 at 2:10pm

the bad part about that is this guy like myself looks to be a little folically challenged so its going to be hard to hide that big ass scar up , but chicks dig scars , but god help you if you have no legrope and you hit me or anyone i know!! poor bloke luckily he is with us to tell the tail

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longboarder420 Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 11:45am

you must be a tough guy , Are you forgetting why you surf ? or are you one of those 40 yr olds who yells at groms to think he's a shredder... ?

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burgsurfer Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 12:48pm

Must admit that I am no tough guy but if I took a hit to the head like this poor bugger did from a longboarder (or short boarder) without a leash, I would be sure to make amends when my head got better.

As far as your other comment below goes.... seems a bit ironic when longboarders can't duck dive!!!

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islandman Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 2:42pm

are you referring to me? i am neither over 35 or a tough guy far from it i pride myself on never being a wave hog allways being friendly and sharing good vibes in the water ALLWAYS , but like i said if someones carelessness caused me injuries like that i would not be a happy person! so basically from your passive aggressive remarks i am wondering who is the tough guy ?

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nickg Monday, 16 Feb 2015 at 11:36pm

damn, that's a good hit to the scone. next time throw your board up as a shield, champ.

i once got yelled at by some fat fool in the flags when my 5'6" el nino whizzed past him riderless. think there was kids about.

fat fools, amirite?

i think the end game is licensing of surfers and registration of equipment. the amount of times i've had leashes and tie-on ropey bits snap 'cos they're well and truly past their use by date.. maybe once every three years..

rego check: nose guard, effective tethering, blunt fin edges.. why not?

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longboarder420 Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 11:43am

What whinges, Like to see you guys grow up in the 60s ,Harden up and learn to duck dive ! Short Boarders are a disgusting disease......, Peace !!!

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rat-race Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 2:34pm

Ha ha.

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madwax Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 12:07pm

No ones mentioned SUP riders so here goes......there seems to be some sort of unwritten rule that you don't need to wear a leggie as board is too big and pulls you or causes drag ! A little bit of drag eh.......ever had one of those fkn tanks comin at ya when paddlin out! Shiiiit - forget sharks....

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Damothediver Sunday, 22 Feb 2015 at 7:41am

Where do you surf madwax that the Sup'ers have told you that??
I ride shortboards and sup and I have never paddled out without a leggie........EVER. I dont know any other sup'er that would either, 1 for safety and 2 do you know how hard it is to chase a big board with a paddle in your hand?? Anyone who doesn't wear a leggie, on any type of surfcraft is putting everyone in danger and should be educated accordingly.............told to go in and get one before an incident.........or punshed if there is one.

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toddC Sunday, 22 Feb 2015 at 9:54am

you cant tell me that someone (who has a pretty good understanding of the surf) riding a longboard on a 1-2ft day without a leggie is anymore dangerous than someone riding a 10ft SUP in 3/4ft closeouts? or anymore dangerous than a backpacker riding shortboard and throwing his board instead of duckdiving....

like i said above its more about peoples understanding of surf and having some experience.
pulling out the "everyone should wear a leggie" talk and making comments abut sending people in is mis-guided and i think a little uneducated.

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Damothediver Sunday, 22 Feb 2015 at 2:56pm

Yes I can and will say that someone riding a longboard, whether competent or not, without a legrope on any day, be it 1-2 foot or up is still dangerous......in fact possibly more so........because on a smaller day there is going to be more swimmers around, possibly kids too, and a riderless longboard can still do significant damage to an unsuspecting victim on small days too.
I doubt most SUP riders would be out on a 10 ft board in 3-4 foot closeouts anyway and if the beach has 3-4 foot closeouts then their probably wont be many swimmers around.
If I see someone throw their board on a small day( anything less than 6-8 feet, double overhead and this is unacceptable ) i will paddle over and explain to them that their behavior is unacceptable and why. I also point out that if they cant duckdive under the waves and preserve everyone's safety then perhaps they shouldn't be out there and should practice a little more in smaller conditions.

Do you?? Did you before and will you now that you have had an unfortunate accident?
I have never sent anyone in, I am not a bully or an enforcer of any sort, I have however suggested that people should go and get their leggie if they forgot it, or if they don't have one I always have a spare in the car I would happily lend them to keep us all safe.

Who educated you about surf etiquette??? It is the IMO the responsibility of experienced surfers to help less experienced understand how to act responsibly and for the safety and enjoyment not only of themselves but of the surfers around them.

I have been surfing for almost 20 years, grew up on the Gold Coast surfing crowded waves and have surfed all over the world on all sorts of craft, short and longboards and Sups and have had several potentially serious accidents with people dumping and losing boards in critical situations.
I don't consider myself or my comment misguided or uneducated with regards to surfing.

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toddC Sunday, 22 Feb 2015 at 5:05pm

sorry apologies i didn't mean to have a go at your directly, just some of the comments frustrate me.
I do agree with majority of what you just said but i didn't say it wasn't dangerous. All i said was there are other of other situations that pose (in my opinion) just as much of a threat to a leash-less longboard...why don't we start sending in people that are learning on a busy day aswell?

I 100% think that the experience has to be passed through by other people, especially as though not everyone has the luxury of growing up surfing. and i think part of what you said is my point, yeah if someone is out there without a leash by all means suggest they should probably be wearing a leash, and let them make an educated choice as to why they aren't.

i live in the eastern suburbs of Sydney where yes you do get people out on SUP in 3/4ft closeouts (with alot of swimmers in the water) just as much as you get long boarders with no leashes on on 1/2 ft days.
I also spent 2 years living in France where it is law to wear a leash, does it make it safer...no i don't think so. still plenty of board injuries.

its a little old but
http://blog.surf-prevention.com/2009/01/21/surfing-related-accidents-epi...
maybe we should all just wear helmets and be done with any debate!

I don't agree with leashless longboards in busy conditions but all im pointing out i think its a little mis-guided to say these people are the worst out there..

(i wear a leash 95% of the time by the way)

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Damothediver Sunday, 22 Feb 2015 at 5:23pm

Its all good.
I guess we actually agree on a few points anyway.
I got 4 stitches in my head a couple of years ago from my own board haha so its not always someone else, I would feel pretty guilty if I did that to someone else though.

EDIT: riding a SUP in 3-4 closeouts is crazy!!!

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toddC Sunday, 22 Feb 2015 at 5:44pm

Surfing is pretty dangerous..i dont know why we bother! :)

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billc Sunday, 22 Feb 2015 at 1:17am

Yeah! a well known pro was surfing without a leggy a few years ago, he wiped out and his board came straight at me. It hit me pretty hard and left a good bruise, but I was able to grab it by the rail at the same time, he looked a bit confused when I gave it back to him and he realised that all 3 fins were snapped out of it...shame about that!

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longboarder420 Monday, 23 Feb 2015 at 9:57pm

you must feel tuff ....

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rosso Sunday, 22 Feb 2015 at 10:14am

Is it easy to punch out fins? While floating in the water?

Just wondering.

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morris Monday, 23 Feb 2015 at 7:29am

Only a baboon would punch someones fins out rosso, the way fins are put on these days glassed on or plugs all you need to do is grip the board with one arm and bend the fins till they break away. Why risk cutting yourself on the fin by a slightly misdirected punch?

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longboarder420 Monday, 23 Feb 2015 at 9:52pm

harden up and smarten up ,

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longboarder420 Monday, 23 Feb 2015 at 9:54pm

Im gonna start NOT wearing a leg rope and purposely loose my board so when people attack me I can sue them for assualt , you people dont own the ocean get a job ....

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gromfull Monday, 23 Feb 2015 at 10:20pm
longboarder420 wrote:

Im gonna start NOT wearing a leg rope and purposely loose my board so when people attack me I can sue them for assualt , you people dont own the ocean get a job ....

Dickhead,

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burgsurfer Tuesday, 24 Feb 2015 at 12:51pm

Heh heh lonboarder242, from the looks of things you are putting up comments after a few beer ... eh???

Good thing anonymity is on our side in these blogs or you really would be making a fool out of yourself....

You would purposefully hurt someone so that you can cause them to assault you then sue them??? Sorry to say but you deserve the comment calling you a "dickhead".

We should ALL be doing our best to be mindful of others in the water, ensuring we don't harm them. Wearing a leash is one way, avoiding riding over people is another, not bailing in front of people is yet another, so is not dropping in.

Hypothetically, when you go out without your leash;
- Would you give a damn if it was a 8 year old grom you put in hospital when your board hit them and whose father beat you senseless?
- Would you purposefully do your best to get your board to hit people?

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billc Monday, 23 Feb 2015 at 11:24pm

***Hey longboarder420.

I should have mentioned where the board hit me. It was right on the point of my cheek bone about an inch below my eye.

Nah I didn't feel tough, just sore, pissed off but with a little bit of contentment in knowing I'd ended his surf and stopped him from hurting anyone else...it could have turned out a lot worse for me...and him!

***Rosso by the way don't try to punch fins out, you probably will cut your hand open as morris suggests, just hold and fold sideways, takes about as much effort/strength as opening a twist top!

What would you have done in my position longboarder420 ???

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udo Friday, 13 Jul 2018 at 3:37pm

Ian Cohen legropes - ABC news

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velocityjohnno Wednesday, 18 Jul 2018 at 1:26pm

"Council will consider restricting any board with a fin to the southern end of the beach in response to “residential concerns”."

Think, Craig - there's a loophole already... Hynd will be all over this.