COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
I don’t lie, burleigh. I just remember the lies and false posts you and clown blowin and clown Robo posted….myocarditis, mortality rates, multiple deaths due to vaccine, bells palsy, athletes having heart issues, children dying due to vaccines, multiple family members having health issues due to vaccines - cancers etc etc, govt control, big pharma controlling govt, autism, vaccines change genetic code, the vaccines side effects are worse than covid…the list goes on and on and on and on….
Just because you don’t like to be reminded of your bs doesn’t make it a lie.
AndyM wrote:Go back and find it and prove me wrong.
With ZERO cases detected in London. ZERO cases. I said “ leave the kids alone” which later you replied:
In light of what is happening in London that statement borders on the criminal you greasy weasel.
There you go. Proof you’re a tool
Criminal to not vax kids in London considering there's polio all through the sewerage system.
You were talking about leaving the kids in London alone.
No speaka da English?
You're so duplicitous
Don’t you get tired of waking up and putting makeup on your two faces every morning?
AndyM wrote:Criminal to not vax kids in London considering there's polio all through the sewerage system.
You were talking about leaving the kids in London alone.
No speaka da English?
All through the sewage? Another lie. They have found traces from a vaccine derived virus.
This virus is called vaccine-derived poliovirus. It is a strain of (weakened) poliovirus that would have originally been found in oral polio vaccines.
This virus in Londons shit is a mutant of a big pharma drug?
C’mon Uncle Andy, it’s time for a lay down, too much main stream media for today.
Holy fuck you're dense.
The UK Health Security Agency has identified 116 polio viruses from 19 sewage samples this year in London, taken from the sewerage treatment works.
It's transmissible but there have been no cases yet.
The UK Health Security Agency has advised that all children in London aged
1-9 should get a polio vaccine now.
Seriously, what part of this don't you understand?
How does this relate to "leave the kids alone"?
Mate you're so dumb you'd sit on the tv and watch the couch.
You're so dumb you'd fail a survey.
Wait wait wait. This virus being found is from an oral polio vaccine given with a weakened live virus which has then mutated.
So it’s caused from Big pharma producing and governments approving this vaccine.
You can’t make this shit up.
How shall we fix it? Give ANOtHER vaccine, then get all the boomers to yell and scream “you’re a criminal” if you dare question it.
Bed time Uncle Andy. Sleep it off.
Nobody had this virus that is caused from a big pharma vaccine fuckup. Until this changes, give it a rest, you’re old, it can’t be good for your heart especially with all the covid vaccine running through your veins.
Kids are vaccinated for polio when born. Leave them alone. Especially when boosters are recommended every 10 YEARS.
No they said there was a different variant detected that wasn’t from the usual vaccines. Therefore suspected there is real Polio in the community.
Not all kids are vaccinated for it with antivax parents and most adults have never boosted I’d guess so there is potential for an outbreak.
seeds wrote:No they said there was a different variant detected that wasn’t from the usual vaccines. Therefore suspected there is real Polio in the community.
This is not true seeds.
It’s from an oral vaccine with a live virus. But AndyM and roadkill want us to trust the science.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/all-children-aged-1-to-9-in-london-to...
Following the discovery of type 2 vaccine-derived poliovirus in sewage in north and east London, the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) has advised that a targeted inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) booster dose should be offered to all children between the ages of 1 and 9 in all London boroughs.
Should the makers of the vaccine and governments that approved it be held accountable?
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01802-z
This virus is called vaccine-derived poliovirus. It is a strain of (weakened) poliovirus that would have originally been found in oral polio vaccines, but has changed over time to behave more like a wild type, or naturally occurring, poliovirus.
Do you think this is criminal AndyM?
Bit more context here about that
Burleigh nice that after several days you actually read something.
In case you were wondering, before the polio vax, around 8000 were paralysed every year.
I think dealing with mutations from third world vaccines is a small price to pay.
By the way, do you like how open “the elites” are with the info coming out of the UK?
However, the viruses detected since February are different. They were related to one another and contained mutations suggesting that the virus was spreading from person to person — probably through poor hand hygiene.
How it came about? Vaccination is still the best protection. As the decades pass the vaccination levels have waned.
AndyM wrote:Burleigh nice that after several days you actually read something.
In case you were wondering, before the polio vax, around 8000 were paralysed every year.
I think dealing with mutations from third world vaccines is a small price to pay.By the way, do you like how open “the elites” are with the info coming out of the UK?
Only 3rd world countries hey? Might be time for some more reading Uncle Andy.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Countries-using-oral-poliovirus-vacc...
Seems this might be a bigger man made issue than they are letting on
Ironically I think the modern antivax movement developed from a disturbing occurrence from a dodgy vaccine company producing a polio vaccine.
Google The Cutter Incident Polio
seeds wrote:Ironically I think the modern antivax movement developed from a disturbing occurrence from a dodgy vaccine company producing a polio vaccine.
Google The Cutter Incident Polio
Nahh. It came from Andrew Wakefield debunked paper who suggested there’s a link between the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine
There was that other dodgy research for profit that suggested these certain children got autism from some vaccines. It was conveniently ignored that the parents were saying that our child was already like this before the vaccines. Is that what you’re referring to Bonza? I’ll have to google it.
That was Wakefield.
Yep just google jogged my memory
burleigh wrote:AndyM wrote:Burleigh nice that after several days you actually read something.
In case you were wondering, before the polio vax, around 8000 were paralysed every year.
I think dealing with mutations from third world vaccines is a small price to pay.By the way, do you like how open “the elites” are with the info coming out of the UK?
Only 3rd world countries hey? Might be time for some more reading Uncle Andy.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Countries-using-oral-poliovirus-vacc...
Seems this might be a bigger man made issue than they are letting on
The moral of this story Burleigh?
Keep your vaccinations up to date.
AndyM wrote:burleigh wrote:AndyM wrote:Burleigh nice that after several days you actually read something.
In case you were wondering, before the polio vax, around 8000 were paralysed every year.
I think dealing with mutations from third world vaccines is a small price to pay.By the way, do you like how open “the elites” are with the info coming out of the UK?
Only 3rd world countries hey? Might be time for some more reading Uncle Andy.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Countries-using-oral-poliovirus-vacc...
Seems this might be a bigger man made issue than they are letting on
The moral of this story Burleigh?
Keep your vaccinations up to date.
No no no, the moral of the story is:
Big pharma/ governments cause the problem then sell the solution. Like like oral live polio vaccine that has now mutated.
Question everything.
Like big pharma caused COVID…in conjunction with multiple govts around the world. It’s all about profits (pharma) and control (govts). The elite did it.
Roadkill wrote:Like big pharma caused COVID…in conjunction with multiple govts around the world. It’s all about profits (pharma) and control (govts). The elite did it.
So you’re not concerned about this vaccine derived polio virus caused by a live polio vaccine made by big pharma and approved by governments?
Got it.
Here’s an easy one Burleigh.
Look at deaths and mailings from polio before vaccines were invented and compare them to now.
Which would you prefer?
AndyM wrote:Here’s an easy one Burleigh.
Look at deaths and mailings from polio before vaccines were invented and compare them to now.
Which would you prefer?
You're missing the point. AGAIN
There is more than one polio vaccine. And this oral vaccine approved with a live polio virus is the only one that has caused this new virus.
The other vaccines don’t have a live virus.
Why was this live virus vaccine approved? Should the powers that approved this vaccine be held accountable?
Or do you prefer the stick your head in the sand and scream “you’re a criminal” to anyone that questions it?
I think you’re paranoid.
And illogical.
You’d very much cut off your nose to spite your face.
Sure, keep an open mind but not so much that your brain falls out.
Until 2004, the vaccine used in the UK was a live attenuated (weakened) oral polio vaccine (OPV). In a small number of cases this vaccine actually caused polio itself (30 cases in UK between 1985 and 2002). Although the disease had been eradicated in the UK, it remained endemic in many countries, so there was a risk it could be reintroduced to the UK through travel and immigration.
By 2004, vaccination had eradicated polio from all but a few countries worldwide, and the UK was able to switch over to the inactivated (killed) polio vaccine, which does not contain any live viruses and cannot cause the disease itself.
burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:Like big pharma caused COVID…in conjunction with multiple govts around the world. It’s all about profits (pharma) and control (govts). The elite did it.
So you’re not concerned about this vaccine derived polio virus caused by a live polio vaccine made by big pharma and approved by governments?
Got it.
I am not irrationally screaming and bed wetting and talking myself into some sort of conspiracy over it…like you are.
Edit.
Mate if you don’t want kids in London to vax against polio then you’re an irrational bedwetter.
There’s a wee trail right down your leg.
End of story.
AndyM wrote:Mate if you don’t want kids in London to vax against polio then you’re an irrational bedwetter.
There’s a wee trail right down your leg.End of story.
Want to discuss the elephant in the room about the actual virus and how it evolved or nah?
I'm aware of that - I actually read the (open and honest) news articles a while back.
But how you don't see this as by far the lesser of two evils is beyond me, you're quite fixated.
I mean, the polio vaccine has (almost) always been a huge success so I really don't know what you would prefer.
Ok, I'll put that question to you - what would you prefer in place of massively successful vaccines like smallpox, polio, tetanus, MMR etc??
Seriously, what are the alternatives?
AndyM wrote:I'm aware of that - I actually read the (open and honest) news articles a while back.
But how you don't see this as by far the lesser of two evils is beyond me, you're quite fixated.
I mean, the polio vaccine has (almost) always been a huge success so I really don't know what you would prefer.
Ok, I'll put that question to you - what would you prefer in place of massively successful vaccines like smallpox, polio, tetanus, MMR etc??
Seriously, what are the alternatives?
Which polio vaccine? There is more than one. One successful but the oral vaccine with live virus? How did this get approval?
Is this the science you want us to blindly follow? That’s criminal IMO
Nothing blind about it, it's all out there on the public recored, communicated by the "elites of the mainstream media", no less.
I tell you what, I'll go with proven science on everything from vaccinations to climate change to telecommunications and you can tie yourself in an un-necessary knot of confusion and paranoia.
Shit ain't perfect but the overall reality is very plain.
AndyM wrote:Nothing blind about it, it's all out there on the public recored, communicated by the "elites of the mainstream media", no less.
I tell you what, I'll go with proven science on everything from vaccinations to climate change to telecommunications and you can tie yourself in an un-necessary knot of confusion and paranoia.
Shit ain't perfect but the overall reality is very plain.
Proven science about Covid too? Amazing that doctors were silenced and de-registered for speaking what is now the truth.
Science is finally catching up to conspiracy theories.
Also, what about the science behind this oral polio vaccine? You happy with that and its approval by governments?
How can you blindly trust big pharma and governments if they are not held to account for these fuck ups?
Not only that, they have weirdos like you doing their dirty work defending them.
YouTube truth??
Cmon mate.
AndyM wrote:YouTube truth??
Cmon mate.
let me know what parts you disagree with.
I’ve got better things to do with my time.
What’s next - Joe Rogan‘s theories on HAARP?
AndyM wrote:I’ve got better things to do with my time.
What’s next - Joe Rogan‘s theories on HAARP?
Write something off without listening. Sounds smart.
Joe Rogan has had several doctors on this podcast about covid which turned out to be correct.
Maybe you should listen to them next time?
If there are reputable experts talking, I’ll listen.
Russel Brand doesn’t count.
AndyM wrote:If there are reputable experts talking, I’ll listen.
Russel Brand doesn’t count.
Like these reputable experts?
burleigh wrote:AndyM wrote:If there are reputable experts talking, I’ll listen.
Russel Brand doesn’t count.Like these reputable experts?
Context?
Time frame between comments?
Note the seemingly open and frank communication,
I’ve acknowledged before, the handling of Covid was a veritable shit-show, no wonder people are cynical.
Bed block...what bed block?!!!!
60 operational beds (2 Wards) filled with COVID patients.
"It happens when all of the in-patient beds in a hospital are full, so new patients from the ED cannot be admitted.
Those patients stay in ED beds, meaning there's not enough free beds in the ED for new patients. This hospital gridlock is called access block, or bed block. "
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-16/jump-in-emergency-department-visi...
san Guine wrote:Bed block...what bed block?!!!!
60 operational beds (2 Wards) filled with COVID patients."It happens when all of the in-patient beds in a hospital are full, so new patients from the ED cannot be admitted.
Those patients stay in ED beds, meaning there's not enough free beds in the ED for new patients. This hospital gridlock is called access block, or bed block. "https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-16/jump-in-emergency-department-visi...
Another few million immigrants will solve the problem of inadequate health system for existing population….oh , wait. That doesn’t sound right?
This is the direction Dan Andrews wanted to go but was thwarted by reality
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/panicked-shoppers-in-shanghai-flee-ike...
"The focus of Sweden’s strategy was to reduce the spread of the virus, but also to consider other aspects of public health and protect freedom and fundamental rights."
https://theconversation.com/did-swedens-controversial-covid-strategy-pay...
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:san Guine wrote:Bed block...what bed block?!!!!
60 operational beds (2 Wards) filled with COVID patients."It happens when all of the in-patient beds in a hospital are full, so new patients from the ED cannot be admitted.
Those patients stay in ED beds, meaning there's not enough free beds in the ED for new patients. This hospital gridlock is called access block, or bed block. "https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-16/jump-in-emergency-department-visi...
Another few million immigrants will solve the problem of inadequate health system for existing population….oh , wait. That doesn’t sound right?
Moreover, the Wards are staffed by junior nurses (EN's, graduates and RUSON's) ...the solution: Let's import (poach, more like it)our workforce from other countries.
In the last 20 years our elected leaders have done little or nothing to attract new nurses to the profession nor given any thought to how to retain the existing highly skilled (stressed)workforce
"Let's import (poach, more like it)our workforce from other countries."
Interesting, because the "progressives" in society would prefer to see this as "encouraging diversity" as opposed to a new type of colonialism.
They're big on diversity here but not so big on looking after places somewhere else.
AndyM,
I see it less as an issue of 'diversity' or 'neo-colonialism', but more of an abject failure of our elected representatives and their proxies to deal with systemic failure of the the way we educate, recruit and retain (in this case) nurses.
The attitude seems to be, let's grab/bribe/entice the most educated from other countries, particularly developing countries, bring them to Australia, and convert them into debt slaves. Then we won't have to worry about the investment in universities, TAFE's and on job training and as a corollary we get more consumers to pump up demand in the economy. Win/win?????
This is the CEO of Pfizer. You cannot make this shit up.
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia