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hey Tony, have a good laugh and watch the link, real good piss take on the greens
something for the non-reader (of books)
https://newmatilda.com/2017/07/31/explainer-a-five-minute-guide-to-under...
Katherine Murphy (haha):
"Don’t take the reported seven votes for a free vote as a true indication of the support for marriage equality in the Liberal party room. There are more, but for a range of reasons they cannot or have not voted for what they believe in.
For instance, cabinet members are bound by the cabinet position of Pleb, Postal Pleb & Free Vote. Other members have not come out, so to speak, for their own reasons, including pressure from various quarters in their own party room."
So the tax-payer is going to stump up millions (on a non-binding waste of fucken time AND money) to effectively save the liberal party from its own nasty split-up and family divorce??
Its absolute bullshit I agree Shatner. The liberals are paralysed by the churchies and the ALP lost any authority they had on the situation when they (AND PENNY WONG) voted against same sex marriage for whatever ridiculous reason years back when they had the chance.
The LNP under Turdstill are the most dysfunctional fucking muppets I've seen, federally, in my political lifetime.
At least Abbott, hopeless as he was, had his own gang with him, until the polls scared the horses...or donkeys, more like.
Total policy shit-show on both their counts though. Same shit, different shovel. So at least there's that.
Consistency.
Constant crap.
Well, unless you're some corpo rent-seeker...and even they're getting pissed off!
@turks says "The LNP under Turdstill are the most dysfunctional fucking muppets I've seen, federally, in my political lifetime."
Roger that, but what are the muppets in the electorate are saying about their voting intentions come next election? Divided Nation and Hinch etc etc ........ now how will the parliament operate with twice as many retards like Malcolm Roberts or Hinchs or other cellar dwellers?
Its looking bad for many years to come
That weirdo Roberts will be gone! Bloody foreigner!
Anyway, a vote for One Notion is a vote for the LNP. Check their record.
Actually, the only clown that beats them for voting with the LNP is fucken Hinch. Mr. 89%. The human rubber-stamp.
Hah!
From the article Shatner pointed to;
"A workplace can be privately owned, it can be socially owned, or it can have a combination of the two. So for example, if you work in a shop, that shop may be owned by a rich person, or by a company which is owned by its shareholders. In that case, it is privately owned.
Another model may be one where the shop is owned by the government. In that case, the workers work for the government. A final model is one where the shop is owned by the workers."
Farkwit goes on to say that the first is capitalism, the second is neutral and the third is socialism.
Great work for a primer. The first is capitalism, the second is socialism, the third is anarcho-syndicalism. Numpty!
Given the current state of Federal politics, how can 47% of the electorate place their faith in the LNP government.
FFS, you may hate Labor or Bill shorten, but nobody in their right mind could place the LNP ahead of Labor as things are currently working.
47 effing percent. Unbelievable!
Anarcho-syndicalism! Jeepers, BF, let's not confuse those poor buggers elsewhere that can barely put their left & right shoes on properly...and keep complaining their feet hurt!
That's a definite K.I.S.S article. That's the problem?
Here's an old fave:
Beat me to it, Turkey.
How's that old chestnut go?
"The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."
Too much complexity, hair-splitting, waffle! Whatevers! Give it to me straight!
K.I.S.S
Anyway...
https://attackthesystem.com/2013/08/13/noam-chomsky-on-anarchism-liberta...
Actually, in all seriousness, if we boil these 'things' down, drill right down deep to the core, is it as simple as being a species of 'collectivism' vs 'individualism'?
Of course it ain't. "Never the twain shall meet" is part of the problem.
But it's a starting point for real discussion?
Yeah, nah.
Yeah, you may not like the LNP but just think about letting any politician making a personal decision on your behalf. That means any - Hanson, Turnbull , shorten, telling you what you can do with respect to marriage. Maybe you follow your religion but that's personal. There is no way this is a political issue. Nothing to do with government regardless what flavour you like.
Got to be your decision.
@Blowin, spent some time touring in Europe with a group of Americans last year. Apart from a small handful they were collectively the most socially and culturally unaware people I have ever meet. Loud, inappropriate, ugly. All the stereotyping is correct.
I went to mainland USA a couple of times when I was younger. It was a regular occurrence for Americans to not know where Australia was .
Guysmiley - You reckon 9/11 was an inside job ?
blowin, don't believe in conspiracy theories.
Today in Noddy-land ....
"But even as the Turnbull government pressed power companies to reduce their prices, Origin Energy returned fire over policy uncertainty and said that, for genuine reductions in prices to happen, "we must also find a way through on energy policy, including a Clean Energy Target".
Strong Leader™
That's our Malcolm!
Finally some common sense when it comes to North Korea
Paul Keating's position ......
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/paul-keating-no...
Can you believe an ex Prime Minister has actually called it " an unprovoked western attack on Iraq " ?
@blowin, shirley, are you aren't being serious?
Trump...Nth Koreas missile threat will boost Guams tourism - WTF.
GuySmiley - What do you mean ?
I've never heard a politician discuss it with such frankness.
Blowin - my mistake, misread your comment. Keating is good at frankness, his speeches/books are worth a read. Cheers
Some old cool pics.
http://mashable.com/2016/07/27/nazis-madison-square-garden/#.FvZx87EVaqa
Some new cool pics.
Some more new cool pics.
One more.
Haha !
How's the nerds doing the Nazi salute !?
So Dale , are you decrying terrorism as a whole or white terrorism specifically ?
I was listening to a foreign affairs expert on radio this morning calling the Charlottesville car attack as an act of terror and expressing disappointment Trump didn't call it as such.
He explained its the motivation of the attack that makes Charlottesville a terrorist act. That driver was targeting people on the basis of their race therefore terrorism. Race or religion motivation = terrorist act.
What's your point ?
Haven't seen any posts from you fellas showing any Islamic terrorist attacks or mass rallies of agitated Religious morons from any other culture . Are you just being contrarian or is this a matter of ......White Man Evil !!!!
It's a bit strange to be honest .
Are you surprised that Westerners can be fuckwits too ?
My point is Blowin, as I said the other day, the Charlottesville attack was terrorism but where was the political leadership and where was the media? If that guy was a Muslim extremist Turnbull would have been all over the media saying it was attack on our values and way of life blah blah ........ so ultimately I calling out how politicians and the media use terrorism. Remember Turnbull standing in front of masked SAS just a few weeks ago to announce Dutton's super agency no expert argued the merits of/for? and who could ever forget 12-Australian flags Tony?
A terrorist ran down 6 coppers in France a few days ago.
Turnbull said nothing.
So much terrorism - vast majority of which is Islamic - so it's only worth trotting out the platitudes when the body count is up.
And there was a political response in the USA .
Trump took fire at the violent protesters.
All of them ....http://time.com/4899658/charlottesville-antifa-protests/
Just cause it was a Right wing loser instead of a left wing loser that managed to kill someone doesn't exonerate any of the cockheads.
Tell me Guysmiley - would you ever turn up to a public gathering anticipating violence if not actually instigating it ?
its terrorism no doubt, but the US can call it what it likes. it was their citizens in their country.
the obsession, all round, with trump is phenomenal. cult status?
That is true Blowin but there is no denying how the media and politicians milk these attacks and the issue generally.
It's a finger pointing industry that's attempting to rewrite the public image and history of the US as a nation hijacked into acting out of character by one evil individual when nothing about the US has changed for as long as I can remember.
Oops, you've edited .... left wing losers killing people? where was that Blowin?
I repeat, the media and politicians milk it, perhaps that fits into your view of the world, if so, that's cool but I don't buy it.
My world view is that everyone should just pull their heads in and accept everyone as a human . I believe that identity and race politics undermines this objective.
I also believe in the nation state.
These beliefs are not incompatible.
No one died in the french attack... In fact, all injuries were minor to moderate.
Whereas there has so far been one death, maybe more to follow in the U.S attack.
There's your difference right there. Plus the fact there were 100 cameras around.... And the media, who need to make a profit to stay afloat, LOOOOOVE footage.
So get over it.
But if we get over it what are we going to argue about ?
Dunno..... Posting countless bullshit comments then deleting them?
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That third one was a doozy.
Oooweee! Things have gone off since I last posted! In all sorts of directions.
"So Dale , are you decrying terrorism as a whole or white terrorism specifically ?"
Weird question. Well, a weird segue-way at least. Maybe you didn't look at my first post?
http://mashable.com/2016/07/27/nazis-madison-square-garden/#.FvZx87EVaqa
Maybe you did. Whatever.
I found those pictures and the history pretty amazing. Madison Square Garden! Obviously you have to take it in context. Being pre-war and all, but you can't make too many excuses. The white supremacy thing was there from the on-set, perhaps it just wasn't clear where the Nazi stuff would ultimately end up. Perhaps.
Now tie that in with the Charlottesville events. And Trump's initial reaction/non-reaction. Understandable on Donald's part. The perpetrators are his people. Sympathisers at least if not outright supporters. He's been dog-whistling these geeks and freaks pre-election and doesn't want to reap what he's sown. We get it.
Ya gotta watch the freaks and geeks though. Angry little fuckers. Don't laugh at 'em. Can't dismiss 'em. Especially in the States, what with the guns and all. How's that picture above of the militia goons? Wandering the streets with that kind of firepower on open display? Imagine those boy-soldiers getting involved?
Will it happen at some stage en-masse? Hmmm.
As for white terrorism, what's that exactly? Are you saying that this is what this was? A lot of people aren't calling it 'terrorism'. Donald included.
And what's the other 'shades' then? Is your thinking coloured by anything in particular? Race is religion??
Terrorism, the final resort of the powerless or less powerful versus the more powerful. Violent. Extreme. People pushed to extremes.
Used to be the case, anyway. Still is? I dunno. Worth thinking about.
One thing. A lot of people, and mainly innocent people, hurt and killed every time.
The US is a funny place. Everyone should get there and poke about at some stage. Maybe even surf.
Get in before it's too late!
One world united ......for corporations.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/aug/16/mystery-second-co...
New York Times and Sydney morning herald - didn't like like the actual truth so they've decided to pillory anyone that does.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/blame-on-both-sides-donald-trump-criticises-...
Not really down on your apologists streak, Blowin. When people give Nazi salutes while burning torches deliberately designed to evoke images of the KKK then there should be no equivocation.
I'm not apologising for anyone.
For a start , the equivocation wasn't about who stood the high moral ground at all , it was about the violent way these clowns expressed their various points of view.
The right wing fucktards went looking for a fight and so did the left wing fucktards.
That's what Trump is saying and that's what happened.
Media is pillorying Trump for stating what occurred , which was violence from both sides.
How is that being an apologist ?
Unless you're saying that I'm apologising for the opinion of White Supremisists ....which I'm not.
But I don't believe in the rewriting of history to support modern day morality either. Which is an entirely seperate issue .
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