Next Federal Election
Who would have guessed this?
Supafreak wrote:andy-mac wrote:Dutton...
One of their best .
He really is a dog whistling evil piece of shit.....
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/apr/23/peter-dutton-reaf...
Labor are preferencing the greens everywhere in all seats in the no.2 spot when they said they wouldn’t so Albo is just lying once again.
Super clinics but no doctors…don’t need a co payment but yes you do…greens .inheritance tax on the table if they get in as it was a labor policy once before…..
Plus they want to go after the superannuation trust that Costello set up for public servants…..and while I like renewables, eventually we will need a baseload power system as well to compensate as Europe have already found out .
Defence spending is nowhere and we have committed troops to Ukraine while the Indonesian leaders are regular visitors to Moscow.
So there are a lot of fibs going around and simply to retain power which seems to be like a sport in Australia….
Regardless of what you think it was only obvious that conservatives would stick together as the coalition and one nation are doing just as the marxists of Labor and the greens are doing…..
Anyway, vote with your conscience with how you would like your world to run and the beauty is we can because it’s a free country….
Respect everyone’s views and may the winner do the best they can for us as a society.
Geez reckon theg could also do some subs a lot cheaper.... ha
What a debacle.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-24/australia-navy-boat-made-in-china...
The latest Roy Morgan Poll as Labor at 55.5% and the Coalition at 44.5%, TPP.
https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/9871-federal-voting-intention-april-2...
On that basis Labor would form a majority government.
Has sports bet started a book on who will take over from spud ? I can’t see the liberals having a woman leading them so would Angus be the front running leech ?
Supafreak wrote:Has sports bet started a book on who will take over from spud ? I can’t see the liberals having a woman leading them so would Angus be the front running leech ?
Hi Super!
It looks like Spud may be in some trouble trying to retain his seat.
Regardless of who becomes leader of the LP, they are destined for irrelevancy and possibly oblivion.
A talentless pool of contenders and a dearth of any policies vaguely resembling a plan or vision for the future will assure that.
Cheers!
A Salty Dog wrote:Supafreak wrote:Has sports bet started a book on who will take over from spud ? I can’t see the liberals having a woman leading them so would Angus be the front running leech ?
Hi Super!
It looks like Spud may be in some trouble trying to retain his seat.
Regardless of who becomes leader of the LP, they are destined for irrelevancy and possibly oblivion.
A talentless pool of contenders and a dearth of any policies vaguely resembling a plan or vision for the future will assure that.
Cheers!
Please think of Gina....
Andrew Hastie's name has been thrown around recently.
Angus Taylor as leader of the LNP would be as useful as Dutton is now.
I'd been wondering about Hastie's near-invisibility this campaign.
I may be wrong but it feels like he's being strategically hidden from view so the Coalition can appeal to more moderate voters. Hastie is an attack dog in the vein of Abbott or Spud Mk1. In a campaign marked by congeniality between contestants, where Teals are making big inreods, it would make sense to hide Hastie while giving Angus Taylor the K-Mart catalogue model more air time.
I think Andrew H is being kept out of the light to keep him clean for a leadership tilt after this election. Reckon the Libs might have written this one off.
From what I understand he’s actually OK at working across the aisle and he’s fairly well liked in the hallways of parliament.
I get his email newsletter every week and it's as consistently partisan and full of lies as any others I read. Much more concerned with tearing down then offering solutions.
Furry muff.
I don’t get his newsletters so I can’t comment on that.
Family friends of ours are pretty deep in the Labor machine in QLD - one of them was a Federal MP for over a decade. They said his reputation is pretty good.
stunet wrote:I get his email newsletter every week and it's as consistently partisan and full of lies as any others I read. Much more concerned with tearing down then offering solutions.
Hastie is my Member, hard religious right, totally hard core against renewables, was part of the destabilization within the Liberal party have also heard he is good to deal with and I respect he was one of the few if only SAS officer to call out Roberts Smith, I still couldn't vote for him.
So the better economic managers have based their figures for nuclear power on the Australian economy shrinking.
Guess if they win they could have a point!
Couldn't make this stuff up, and Dutton and co consider themselves serious people... ???
https://m.
Bernard Keane (Crikey) is in blistering form today on the Liberals' defence announcement.
thermalben wrote:Bernard Keane (Crikey) is in blistering form today on the Liberals' defence announcement.
Crikey!!
Greg Sheridan criticising Dutton.... ????
Strange days...
Greg Sheridan must think Dutton is dead in the water.
thermalben wrote:Bernard Keane (Crikey) is in blistering form today on the Liberals' defence announcement.
The Coalition's campaign, from the beginning, could best be described as shambolic, and as we move closer to election day has only become worse. Full of negativity, with no clear plan for the future and tainted with Trumpism, this will only end in defeat for the Coalition and rightly so.
As Keane points out, the Coalition's latest gem requires an increase in taxes, which contradicts their party of lower taxes claim.
A legacy of the Coalitions taxation strategy since Howard has been to hit the PAYG taxpayer with an ever increasing burden.
What is required now is a major reset of our taxation system: to shift the burden away from the PAYG taxpayer and start to tax our exports appropriately. We should rid ourselves of tax minimisation schemes such as the CGT discount, negative gearing and allowing rental properties, businesses and farms to be placed into SMSF's, where no tax is payable in pension phase. Taxation of multinational corporations is another area where revenue can be increased.
If you can achieve that, you can then lower the personal tax rates.
I can't see the Coalition forming any sort of policy in that regard: the question is will Labor have the courage to do it.
People would have to be blind freddy to vote Elbo back in again.
Interesting blackout bowen is no where to be seen.
Unfortunately, the opposition's even worse.
Optimist wrote:Labor are preferencing the greens everywhere in all seats in the no.2 spot when they said they wouldn’t so Albo is just lying once again.
Super clinics but no doctors…don’t need a co payment but yes you do…greens .inheritance tax on the table if they get in as it was a labor policy once before…..
Plus they want to go after the superannuation trust that Costello set up for public servants…..and while I like renewables, eventually we will need a baseload power system as well to compensate as Europe have already found out .
Defence spending is nowhere and we have committed troops to Ukraine while the Indonesian leaders are regular visitors to Moscow.
So there are a lot of fibs going around and simply to retain power which seems to be like a sport in Australia….
Regardless of what you think it was only obvious that conservatives would stick together as the coalition and one nation are doing just as the marxists of Labor and the greens are doing…..
Anyway, vote with your conscience with how you would like your world to run and the beauty is we can because it’s a free country….
Respect everyone’s views and may the winner do the best they can for us as a society.
Man that sucks big time.
newdog wrote:People would have to be blind freddy to vote Elbo back in again.
Interesting blackout bowen is no where to be seen.
Yeah let's get the better economic managers back in....
Haha....
Sprout wrote:Unfortunately, the opposition's even worse.
even stevens
andy-mac wrote:newdog wrote:People would have to be blind freddy to vote Elbo back in again.
Interesting blackout bowen is no where to be seen.Yeah let's get the better economic managers back in....
Haha....
you really think elbo has done better than the previous?
morrison screwed us over with covid
elbo has screwed us over with everything haha
both have been good liars
the mostly boomers on here should be worried about inheritance tax
identity politics @neddy?
Your mum and dad?
Retard comment of the day goes to.....
They should indeed….the inheritance tax is the lowest form of theft.
I’ve just gone through the how to vote card from the nationals that I got in my letterbox and after looking into the candidates more I’ve revamped and renumbered it to suit my opinions and thoughts.
I recommend you do likewise…..take the time and number your card to suit you personally.
11 words for 3 incorrect statements.
That's got to be a Swellnet record, Neddy
I voted today, and had a bit of time to kill so I had a look at the Lab and Lib how-to-votes for all 10 SA electorates, the Libs one was disgusting.. if your party decides its enemies are Labor, Environment, Bulldog Tassies, Beige Independents, Animals, Dope and Whistleblowers.. my GOD what is left.. what a motley crew they want you to tick.
The ALP card puts the LNP 4th of 8 in places up here, speaks volumes to the quality of the field.
Optimist wrote:They should indeed….the inheritance tax is the lowest form of theft.
I’ve just gone through the how to vote card from the nationals that I got in my letterbox and after looking into the candidates more I’ve revamped and renumbered it to suit my opinions and thoughts.
I recommend you do likewise…..take the time and number your card to suit you personally.
Inheritance tax will never happen....
Children overboard anyone?
Russians are coming
Chinese are coming
Immigrants, scary....
Foreign students stealing our houses
African gangs, too scared to go out!!
$200 roasts
Wipe out Wyalla
Swamped by Asians
Gaza refugees
Drugs and thugs.....
Youth crime
Geez
Could keep going.
What are they offering??
Nuclear power that will never happen and is ridiculously expensive.
Sacking PS for consultants which cost more and are less effective. Good deal for mates.
More culture war BS. etc etc
All the LNP have to offer is fear mongering.
Yeah but ELBO......
fear mongering v liar = good choices we have
please tell us how elbo has improved the economy in the last 3 years
Greens aren’t pushing any inheritance tax and Labor never has. People that keep bringing this up are exposing the dubious news sources they’re listening to. What other horseshit are they basing their vote on?
basesix wrote:I voted today, and had a bit of time to kill so I had a look at the Lab and Lib how-to-votes for all 10 SA electorates, the Libs one was disgusting.. if your party decides its enemies are Labor, Environment, Bulldog Tassies, Beige Independents, Animals, Dope and Whistleblowers.. my GOD what is left.. what a motley crew they want you to tick.
The problem these days is parties take a name and theme be it environment or animals or even pot to get voters attention but the party themselves generally have little to actually do with that theme.
Greens are the perfect example they have little to do with the environment it's more about anti western anti christian anti family pro marxism beliefs, i mean fuck the main driver of all environmental issues is population but they are basically a pro open borders party.
If you actually want to to vote for a party that cares about the environment you would vote Sustainable population party, although im sure sadly they have some dodgy left leaning policy views too.
Hahaha now Indo is dropping the Marxist label.
Newdog doesn’t realise fear mongering is lying.
We already have indirect inheritance taxes in the form of tax on income generated from inherited assets, including if they're sold for a capital gain. I went through the process recently.
It would be extremely unfair and inappropriate to introduce inheritance taxes directly on the value of assets inherited, while maintaining the indirect taxes.
It wouldn't surprise me if it's something the Greens would advocate but I couldn't see the major parties pushing it.
newdog wrote:fear mongering v liar = good choices we have
please tell us how elbo has improved the economy in the last 3 years
Minimum wage increase.
Age care workers wage increases.
Renewable
Fixed up ties with our biggest trading partner.
Repair relationships with Pacific nations.
Inflation back to target. Ok argue rba.
2 surpluses.
Just off top of my head...
But yeah Labor.
Edit.. oh yeah stage 3 tax cuts modified to help majority of people not just highest income bracket.
gs-co wrote:We already have indirect inheritance taxes in the form of tax on income generated from inherited assets, including if they're sold for a capital gain. I went through the process recently.
It would be extremely unfair and inappropriate to introduce inheritance taxes directly on the value of assets inherited, while maintaining the indirect taxes.
It wouldn't surprise me if it's something the Greens would advocate but I couldn't see the major parties pushing it.
Will never happen.
Well interest is income isn’t it. Therefore taxed like any income.
The Greens website explicitly states it’s not on their agenda
It’s just nonsense trotted out by right leaning media.
seeds wrote:Greens aren’t pushing any inheritance tax and Labor never has. People that keep bringing this up are exposing the dubious news sources they’re listening to. What other horseshit are they basing their vote on?
technically they abandoned their death tax policy in 2019
"The Greens have long argued for the reintroduction of an inheritance, or "death" tax, levied against the estates of the wealthy.
But in the face of heavy criticism from the Coalition, the party has decided to ditch the policy for the 2019 campaign."
https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/radionational-drive/greens-abando...
Or did they just reword things?
"6. the implementation of a tax on dynastic wealth, targeted at those bequeathing or gifting large amounts"
And yet it was spread through social media in 2019 that it was a Labor policy.
It’s bullshit.
You could also look here.
https://greens.org.au/facts
And no I’m not voting Greens. Never have.
andy-mac wrote:newdog wrote:fear mongering v liar = good choices we have
please tell us how elbo has improved the economy in the last 3 years
Minimum wage increase.
Age care workers wage increases.
Renewable
Fixed up ties with our biggest trading partner.
Repair relationships with Pacific nations.
Inflation back to target. Ok argue rba.
2 surpluses.
Just off top of my head...But yeah Labor.
Edit.. oh yeah stage 3 tax cuts modified to help majority of people not just highest income bracket.
you sound very one eyed
you have 2 use them
love your stick-it to @old-dog..
*newdog* haha, raaaawwwr..
yer alright by me burls,
we don't agree on anything at all,
but you respect the swellnet space.
(and you and RK were the biggest cack..)
Men have 3 ND
seeds wrote:Hahaha now Indo is dropping the Marxist label.
Life is so sad for #there’salwaysanothercomment these days, all of his genocidal psychopathic international political heroes have been universally disgraced, his domestic political incompetents will be applying for Centrelink after the election and his footy team, while providing current joy, will surely seriously disappoint anytime soon!
It’s a good thing he doesn’t own a dog!
newdog wrote:andy-mac wrote:newdog wrote:fear mongering v liar = good choices we have
please tell us how elbo has improved the economy in the last 3 years
Minimum wage increase.
Age care workers wage increases.
Renewable
Fixed up ties with our biggest trading partner.
Repair relationships with Pacific nations.
Inflation back to target. Ok argue rba.
2 surpluses.
Just off top of my head...But yeah Labor.
Edit.. oh yeah stage 3 tax cuts modified to help majority of people not just highest income bracket.
you sound very one eyed
you have 2 use them
PBS double scripts, saving time and money for people especially elderly...
Mate, I have been very critical of Labor and Albo, especially NACC being weak as piss and Aukus especially.
But for all their faults, they lead lnp in every measurable regard.
Really Dutton as PM and Littleproud as DPM?? At least until barnaby sobers up and challanges...
Far out, that's the first time I've ever read that stuff on the Greens website.
The Greens far more socialist and Marxist than environmentalist. They're not a valid political party in any way whatsoever.
Most importantly, they just don't get the basic, fundamental economic tradeoff between inequality and incentive. This central tradeoff is hammered into you at every stage of an economics degree.
If the Greens had their way we'd be living in a hard core socialist system in which all means of production is state owned. Most of the workforce would be publicly employed. The wealth of successful, productive, energetic and consequently wealthy people would be redistributed to unsuccessful, unproductive people, particularly the lazy and unwilling to work, in order to achieve "equality", "fairness" and "economic justice".
The long-term outcome would be a stagnant economy with no innovation, productivity improvements, technological advance, or growth, since people would have no incentive to.
The private sector would dry up. There would be no tax base to fund the massive public sector. We'd run continual govt deficits. We'd rack up unsustainable govt debt. There'd be no tax base to pay off the debt. The nation would collapse financially.
Other countries would still continue to innovate and develop new technologies, products and services. We'd get left for dead in the global marketplace. All the latest and greatest products and services we'd want to purchase would come from overseas. We'd run continual trade deficits that are also funded by borrowing. Either that or we'd have to turn to hard core trade protectionism
Our economy and innovation would collapse. We would not be able to support a large, technologically advanced military to defend ourselves. Countries like China would easily and swiftly take us over. We'd vanish as a nation.
This cycle has played out countless times historically.
A healthy amount of wealth and income inequality is absolutely vital to ensure the dynamism, vitality, innovation, competitiveness, productivity, technological development and overall growth, success, wealth, prosperity and living standards of a nation.
I think the Greens need some Thomas Sowell wisdom.
Might as well put this up in the politics subforum, to spare the front page. It's 18 months away or so, but here we go.
This is how Dutton wins:
https://www.afr.com/politics/enter-the-liberal-party-working-class-heroe...