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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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andy-mac Wednesday, 27 Nov 2024 at 9:52am
Supafreak wrote:

You would think he could have answered the questions from the microphone, sure it may have been edited but it just seems weird to walk away while answering , then again he was probably worn out. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DC2WoYdzSUu/?igsh=MWFhNGJ0ZXhkdjN2cw==. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-security-cabinet-approv...

Don't really get this, Hizbollah are the ones involved in the hostilities, they are not a signing partner so what is to stop them? Lebanese military? Could this lead to civil war in Lebanon?
Haven't Hizbollah said they will continue their attacks until there is a cease fire in Gaza?
Sounds like a plan doomed for failure, again the powers that be making deals without the involvement and agreement with the groups with skin in the game such as Abraham accords ignoring the plight of Palestinians.

We shall see.

Was Biden drunk then, geez someone put him to bed.

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basesix Wednesday, 27 Nov 2024 at 12:27pm
wax24 wrote:

It is 0642 here and i am 48 mins away from swiping out and enjoying a paddle practice session in Tomales Bay. Mushy at the ol beachie....
Even after Trumps win.... they'll still let me surf, huh. Go figure.
(except for my doctor. if she had her way, i'd stay dry. Now THERE'S a fascist! lol)

haha, you get your wet on @wax? good on you! coupla comments about the sea making us weirdos more normal. So true! (how you travelling @southern, been moon howling a bit longer than the rest of us, did you get through your hectic study time and subsequent disgust at humanity? been getting some rare mornings down here, there's nothing like a sou-west swell, with the wind whipping round to north-east on a good tide, and catching those few hours on an empty upwelling coast. total playtime : )

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Roadkill Wednesday, 27 Nov 2024 at 2:23pm
wax24 wrote:

That's the stuff, Basey. Sounds wonderful.
It is 0642 here and i am 48 mins away from swiping out and enjoying a paddle practice session in Tomales Bay. Mushy at the ol beachie....
Even after Trumps win.... they'll still let me surf, huh. Go figure.
(except for my doctor. if she had her way, i'd stay dry. Now THERE'S a fascist! lol)

Water up there would be getting a bit cold now?

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andy-mac Wednesday, 27 Nov 2024 at 3:08pm
andy-mac wrote:
Supafreak wrote:

You would think he could have answered the questions from the microphone, sure it may have been edited but it just seems weird to walk away while answering , then again he was probably worn out. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DC2WoYdzSUu/?igsh=MWFhNGJ0ZXhkdjN2cw==. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-security-cabinet-approv...

Don't really get this, Hizbollah are the ones involved in the hostilities, they are not a signing partner so what is to stop them? Lebanese military? Could this lead to civil war in Lebanon?
Haven't Hizbollah said they will continue their attacks until there is a cease fire in Gaza?
Sounds like a plan doomed for failure, again the powers that be making deals without the involvement and agreement with the groups with skin in the game such as Abraham accords ignoring the plight of Palestinians.

We shall see.

Was Biden drunk then, geez someone put him to bed.

Ok saw that Hizbollah agreed to pull back.
Hope the cease fire can turn to peace.

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indo-dreaming Wednesday, 27 Nov 2024 at 5:44pm

This is my understanding of whats in it for each group.

Hezbollah: They only have about 20% of their rocket supply left and pretty much no proper leadership left, but they do get to survive to live another day and sadly will rebuild, the downside for them is it's a kind of loss as they said they wont stop until the Gaza war ends, which it wont be quite yet.

Israel= They are low on ammunition and reservist tired, it gives them a break and in theory something like almost one hundred thousand Israeli's, it's said a very high number of Arabs & Bedouin's in that area can move back and rebuild, yes many of their houses are destroyed because the iron dome does not protect areas that have been evacuated. The downside for them is Hezbollah are still alive and will one day attack Israel again, so many have said they dont feel save to return.

BTW. Most Israelis are not happy about the Ceasefire deal as most expected the aim was to destroy hezbollah, but Israel always said this wouldn't be a long operation and that destroying Hezbolah (a huge job) wasn't the aim, the aim was to make it save for Israeli's return to the north and to push back Hezbollah to behind the Litani river.

Lebanon= They get peace and people can return to also rebuild in areas south of the Latani river, and do it without Hezbollahs influence hanging over them.

The army will also will get outside support (like French) to ensure they have the resource's to ensure it's capable so in a sense it gives them support to be stronger and more in control of their country.

Iran= Apart from Hezbollah surviving they dont gain much, their proxy army is severely weakened and the focus for Israel and possibly even USA will most likely go towards dealing with Iran in some way, remember Israel is still waiting for return fire from Iran

The aim of Iran was to always use Hezbollah as a shield to prevent Israel trying to take out their nuclear facilties and to attack Israel via Hezbollah rather than directly, so If Iran strikes Israel again and Israel hits back Hezbollah cant get involved without breaking the ceasefire.

USA= Biden gets a win and goes out looking like he got something done. while Trump can and im sure will claim it was from his pressure.

Its a 60 day process for both parties to be fully removed from the area i guess that means Biden starts the deal and Trump in a sense is the one who finishes the deal

Timing though is still interesting, why did Bibi not just wait until Trump came in and give Trump the clear win ?

I do believe part of the deal with Biden was a release of some ammunition supply's to Israel that had previously been held back

I dont know if Trump having a Lebanese (Christian) brother inlay is a factor?...he also has a Jewish Zionist brother inlay,