Next Federal Election

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velocityjohnno started the topic in Monday, 22 Jan 2024 at 2:15pm

Might as well put this up in the politics subforum, to spare the front page. It's 18 months away or so, but here we go.

This is how Dutton wins:

https://www.afr.com/politics/enter-the-liberal-party-working-class-heroe...

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wally Wednesday, 16 Oct 2024 at 7:18pm

I wonder if the general public (if there is such a thing) cares.

As widely reported, Peter Dutton has/had? an extensive property portfolio.
I remember he had a fancy beachside investment place at Palm Beach on the Gold Coast.

“ Federal Defence Minister Peter Dutton sold his holding at no 109 for $6 million, pocketing a tidy profit on the $2.325 million he paid in 2014.”

I’m not sure that Albo and his wife achieving the aussie dream will hurt him at election time. Others things might, but not that so much I reckon.

Of course, a lot of federal pollies are hopelessly compromised when considering policies to reduce house prices.

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indo-dreaming Wednesday, 16 Oct 2024 at 7:31pm

This list shows Dutton as only owning one home, which is kind of depressing if true.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-16/how-many-properties-do-australian...

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tubeshooter Wednesday, 16 Oct 2024 at 7:32pm

Well, I personally don't begrudge him his recent purchase, but given the current housing crisis I can see how it might ruffle a few feathers.
It's bad optics whatever way you slice it.
I wouldn't fret about it though; it'll blow over shortly.

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southernraw Wednesday, 16 Oct 2024 at 7:43pm

Agreed TS.
Doesn't bother me because his personal life is none of my business.
Same as anyones.

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seeds Wednesday, 16 Oct 2024 at 8:27pm
indo-dreaming wrote:

This list shows Dutton as only owning one home, which is kind of depressing if true.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-16/how-many-properties-do-australian...

Family trust for old Dutto.

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truebluebasher Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 4:30am

Says "Declared List" ( Here's Dutto's Portfolio )

1990 : Buy $93,000 Yeronga Apartment (20y/o Dutto the Butcher > Cop) > 1992 [Sold] $116,000
1993 : Buy $60,000 Murrumba Downs (Bought with his Dad) > 1995 [Sold] $175,000
1995 : Buy $45,700 Mount Cotton 4b > 2002 [Sold] $202,000
2002 : Buy $280,000 Albany Ck 4b + Pool > 2004 [Sold] $445,000 (Re-Married)
2004 : Buy $710,000 Camp Mountain (Acreage) > 2020 [Sold] $1.8m
2014 : Buy $2.325m Palm Beach-frontage > 2021 [Sold] $6.1m
https://www.urban.com.au/news/peter-dutton-lists-palm-beach-gold-coast-b...
https://www.realestate.com.au/news/palm-beach-house-price-record-smashed...
Read Here : Mick Doohan House (Tip) Don't even look at it...get yer head blown off!
https://www.realestate.com.au/news/inside-palmywood-whos-making-deals-on...

Popular Juffs Farm Swimming Hole at Dayboro...sounds like cool fun...(Run! Johnny Run!)

2020 : Dutto & Wife Kirilly bought the Funny Farm for $2.165m (Pleasantville)
https://iview.abc.net.au/show/kitchen-cabinet/series/7/video/FA2211H002S00


2021 : Fig Tree Watch Tower Perimeter Guards can Legally shoot to kill any fig leaf taking a Dip.
https://cdn.iview.abc.net.au/thumbs/i/X0_64e543da07dec_720.jpg
Says : But soon afterwards drew the Ire of Locals...after "Personal Protection Officers chase them off!"

Forever a simply divine Oasis!
Until one day a Dark Shadow appeared and Rebranded it as Hell Hole of the Pacific > KILL KILL KILL!

2021 : Dutto bought $2.7m / 3b unit in Riparian Plaza Tower from John Wagner 2022 [Sold] $3.47m
https://www.realestate.com.au/news/federal-mp-peter-dutton-pockets-hefty...

Dec 2023 : Dutto lists a Bne CBD Property as a "Residential Investment" (Not Declared!)

Dutto's Portfolio modelled by Treasurer Costello 9/Domain
https://www.nine.com.au/property/news/peter-dutton-house-property-portfo...

Real Estate Agent...
"So ya wanna scare off the locals by Invading & Conquering them & Forbid Access to the Eternal Oasis!"
Dutto : "Yeah! That 'd be ideal + be allowed to Kill them just for looking at it!"

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 6:56am

Yeah i read a few articles last night on Duttons real-estate history as you can see above he has a history of buying and selling quite quickly but they are almost all his own residence (better tax wise) i think the exception was the recent units.

So he is more a flipper than an acquirer of a big property portfolio.

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sypkan Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 11:39am
tubeshooter wrote:

Well, I personally don't begrudge him his recent purchase, but given the current housing crisis I can see how it might ruffle a few feathers.
It's bad optics whatever way you slice it.
I wouldn't fret about it though; it'll blow over shortly.

I personally don't care either...

it's more a symptom of the gross inequality that our political class has allowed to develope within supposedly 'egalitarian' Australia rather than anything albo has personally done

politically however, is a different matter...

it just shows him, and his party, to be the aloof wankers they are

he should have taken one for the team

his advisors should have told him to take one for the team...

'the team' are struggling to hide their disdain for his little indulgence

I'm not so sure it will blow over

he was already so so on the nose I think this is his death blow

the greens are busy making hay to make it his death blow...

the greens - and an inept labor party - are almost ensuring we end up with a dutton government

personally, I think that would be a disaster... but I'm willing to take bets on it's probability...

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Supafreak Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 11:41am

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waveman Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 11:42am
southernraw wrote:

Agreed TS.
Doesn't bother me because his personal life is none of my business.
Same as anyones.

The thing about it is, Albanese and his government with their turbo charged mass immigration policies have exacerbated the housing shortage and housing affordability crisis far more than anyone else in Australian history. They have done it deliberately. Whilst he himself is unaffected…. That’s what bothers people.

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Supafreak Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 12:22pm

At least the chaser mentions both leaders unlike CH9 which is run by who ? https://chaser.com.au/national/albo-reads-room-then-buys-it/

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velocityjohnno Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 1:08pm
waveman wrote:
southernraw wrote:

Agreed TS.
Doesn't bother me because his personal life is none of my business.
Same as anyones.

The thing about it is, Albanese and his government with their turbo charged mass immigration policies have exacerbated the housing shortage and housing affordability crisis far more than anyone else in Australian history. They have done it deliberately. Whilst he himself is unaffected…. That’s what bothers people.

Waveman - got it in one. It feels like "let them eat cake"

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southernraw Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 1:54pm

I do get that perspective and don't begrudge it.
I still think personal life should be just that.
If you're living within the law, live and let live.
Slippery slope to start comparing some ones private life to their professional life.

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truebluebasher Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 3:48pm

If ya don't know vote Joh 4 PM.

LNP cowardly jumped ship to silence the voice
More than happy to jail any practicing pro choice
We'll licence more bars that ban guitars
And rocket welcome to country to Mars

Private Schools can bully and sack funny business student teachers
We'll be resurrecting knight-hooded pardoned hands on preachers
We promise to be as clean as can be with no corruption to see
Everybody knows the Media forewarned the Police to vote for me

Why should I declare my host of failed bankrupted company interests
It makes smarter business sense to versify and plead indifference
It matter's not that no Party will ever elect me as their leader
Coz people swore it's now the Law to Just Vote for any News Reader

News: Bombay train wreck disaster is a never ending fail
Main Roads will sail more cars off their union busted rail
Our next mountain chain of rubbish will be so divine
Our plan is to block out the sun with Clive's blue sky mine.

Seachange developers can do as they please
By selling off seas rising up to your knees
We promise to remove any barrier blocking the sale of the Reef
By palming it off to some altruistic ministerial whitehoven thief

We'll happily sell off Brisbane to the IOC Chinese
Then drip feed and bleed foreign AFL disease
By sacking Nurses and extracting trees
We'll ward off any private health sneeze!

We'll put an end to satisfying woke dignified dying
For something more terrifying or horrifically mortifying
Even the blind can see our teenie weenie Mussolini meanie.
Is voted less trustworthy than his not so Great Houdini martini.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/queensland-opposition-leader-david...

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GuySmiley Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 5:10pm

Bald headed barefaced bullshiter

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velocityjohnno Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 5:17pm

Yeah it seems voting either party in might not be best in interests of affordable housing.

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southernraw Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 5:31pm
truebluebasher wrote:

If ya don't know vote Joh 4 PM.

LNP cowardly jumped ship to silence the voice
More than happy to jail any practicing pro choice
We'll licence more bars that ban guitars
And rocket welcome to country to Mars

Private Schools can bully and sack funny business student teachers
We'll be resurrecting knight-hooded pardoned hands on preachers
We promise to be as clean as can be with no corruption to see
Everybody knows the Media forewarned the Police to vote for me

Why should I declare my host of failed bankrupted company interests
It makes smarter business sense to versify and plead indifference
It matter's not that no Party will ever elect me as their leader
Coz people swore it's now the Law to Just Vote for any News Reader

News: Bombay train wreck disaster is a never ending fail
Main Roads will sail more cars off their union busted rail
Our next mountain chain of rubbish will be so divine
Our plan is to block out the sun with Clive's blue sky mine.

Seachange developers can do as they please
By selling off seas rising up to your knees
We promise to remove any barrier blocking the sale of the Reef
By palming it off to some altruistic ministerial whitehoven thief

We'll happily sell off Brisbane to the IOC Chinese
Then drip feed and bleed foreign AFL disease
By sacking Nurses and extracting trees
We'll ward off any private health sneeze!

We'll put an end to satisfying woke dignified dying
For something more terrifying or horrifically mortifying
Even the blind can see our teenie weenie Mussolini meanie.
Is voted less trustworthy than his not so Great Houdini martini.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/queensland-opposition-leader-david...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjZWUuOA5xs

Top shelf brilliance there TBB!!
That was epic mate.
Cheers for sharing.

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AndyM Thursday, 17 Oct 2024 at 6:08pm
velocityjohnno wrote:

Yeah it seems voting either party in might not be best in interests of affordable housing.

I’ve said it ad nauseum, don’t do it.

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quadzilla Friday, 18 Oct 2024 at 8:23am

So, Sleazee wont talk to Australians or SwellNetters!

Ya have to fill out a form and wait for a reply...thats really transparent(another broken promise btw)

But,IF ya wanna talk to PotatO...his staff WILL answer the phone.

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Supafreak Friday, 18 Oct 2024 at 10:01am

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A Salty Dog Friday, 18 Oct 2024 at 10:48am
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Simply brilliant Supa!!!!

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velocityjohnno Friday, 18 Oct 2024 at 1:49pm

Cheap housing = more Australian babies.

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2024/10/australia-has-become-a-no-go-zo...

Overall policy settings by both major parties are indirectly leading in the opposite direction.

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velocityjohnno Friday, 18 Oct 2024 at 1:54pm

& while I understand you don't play the man, but rather the ball (policy) - so I don't agree with going after the road upgrade bit;

This one shares a couple of quotes from ALP MP's that are worth a read, re:optics

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2024/10/albo-charges-taxpayers-100m-to-...

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Pop Down Friday, 18 Oct 2024 at 3:45pm

Hello VJ

A great observation , cheap housing = more babies !!!

Australia desperately needs more babies and Pop won't help , with this problem .

Elon Musk was just talking about Australia's poor Birth Rate , miles below the 2 mark .

We are a Young Country that's just finding our Feet .

Oldies like me won't Make Australia Great !

China and Japan's longterm future is at risk , as they are getting old like Pop .

Immigration helps but we have NO homes for them .

We have 2 think of ways to keep our population Young !

Cheap Housing near schools , is a Great start .

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indo-dreaming Friday, 18 Oct 2024 at 4:47pm
velocityjohnno wrote:

Cheap housing = more Australian babies.

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2024/10/australia-has-become-a-no-go-zo...

Overall policy settings by both major parties are indirectly leading in the opposite direction.

Hows the graph, pretty crazy.

And the pill came out in Australia in Feb 1st 1961, slight lag but then free love here we come.

BTW. it would be interesting to over lay housing prices/affordability graph from the last 30 years, i bet it the opposite pattern, very sad.

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flollo Friday, 18 Oct 2024 at 4:54pm
velocityjohnno wrote:

& while I understand you don't play the man, but rather the ball (policy) - so I don't agree with going after the road upgrade bit;

This one shares a couple of quotes from ALP MP's that are worth a read, re:optics

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2024/10/albo-charges-taxpayers-100m-to-...

Haha, this is funny. I don’t think he would’ve bought it because of this but really bad look regardless. And yeah, if this was Scomo this forum would be on fire.

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truebluebasher Friday, 18 Oct 2024 at 7:17pm

Qld LNP ramp 10% Vote gains on Adult Crime = Adult Time + 7% Gain on lowering Taxes

Releasing plans for 9 Boutique Pedo Highrises to yell & abuse First Nation Kids & sell off babies.
Judge Davy lays down $50m deposit on Hillsong Gay Conversion / Baby Abduction Reset Camps
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/oct/08/queensland-state-...

Last Qld LNP Govt Cow Cocky rape dungeons blew out Pedo Bills by 3x to increase youth recidivism.

Sky News Paul Murray (Burp!) Claims Davy won't reverse pro Choice or he'd be sacked!
Backs up Judge Davy promise to build 2x as many Jails for Kidz to do the time! Fuckin' Stoked!

Current Budget Base Level Qld Prison Budget
$1.41 billion/yr (2023)
$227,333 / Cell Construction (2023) or $341m / 1500 beds
$1,000 / day child
$405 / day Adult
252 / day are Jailed

Since then LNP Rubberstamped Union's / $1,000 wk extra for 50km + travel
This is why he can't share which dress circles are gettin' Hillsong First Nation Watch Towers.
https://online.lnp.org.au/ann-leahy/news/regional-reset-early-interventi...
Chinese AFL stadium is over 50kms from Coomera Kiwi Slave Mission = (2x Stadium cost)

50% increase for Adult crime do the time Child Prisoners by Xmas or sack the New Premier
LNP prisons cost 3x more to fund...
Need Ex Commando Screaming Pedos / Hillsong Psychs - Trans Conversion + Baby Abduction units.
LNP claw money back by imprisoning more First Nation Girls to sell their babies for Hillsong Miracles.
Law says if Carer's Mob has a conviction it's unsafe > Bobbie converts & sells miracle babies!

Where does LNP claw back the extra $ 2.8b / 4 year Do the time plan + 2x AFL Stadium blowout?
Consider 9x Boutique Pedo Penthouse boot camps will cost 3x more minimum LNP Detention rort.
Massive Detention Contract Blowouts are signature LNP secretive Offshore Detention Rorts.

How Judge Jury Executioner Mussolini intends to pay for 50% more Prison Bills

* 50% more rubber stamped Coalmine Royalties (We know Qld LNP ban Wind / Sun / Nukes!)
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/oct/11/queenslands-lnp-l...
* LNP sell another Port to China > Brisvegas becomes South China Sea Olympic Stadium Rail Port
In otherwords mandate extra 1,000/wk Union fees for Made in China AFL Social Credit Stadium Hub.
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/politics/queensland/gabba-rebuild-on-ta...
* Reintroduce mandatory Developer Donations & pocket the loose change.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/oct/16/queensland-electi...
* Rubberstamp his Boss Clive's Goldie / Sunny Floodplain Casino Cities
https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=GCWEB_...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/U1vc0m97DVI/hqdefault.jpg

Do as I say : Our Teenie Weenie head kicking Mussolini Meanie.
8 March 2024 https://www.swellnet.com/comment/952053

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flollo Friday, 18 Oct 2024 at 9:33pm

Tbb are there any plans to build a new airport for the olympics? Surely they won’t run the olympics with this crappy airport?