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Wow you’re on to these posts pretty quick
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Hey Jules
Not always slow .
Perhaps my research is stuffed , but there WILL be another debate .
Perhaps U should check ?
Kamala spent weeks getting prepared for the First Debate , did nothing else .
It showed as she looked good and got under Trumps skin , cool , it's not a hard thing 2 do .
Trump knew the Debate was on Harris turf .
He underestimated Harris and , as he always does , blames others if he stuffs up .
Trump only needs 1 Rematch .
Trump hates being humiliated .
Remember Obama making Fun of Trump , as Obama was President and Trump wasn't .
Trump sure has made Obama eat Humble Pie , 4 THAT comment .
Trump will not underestimate Harris twice !
He will stop giving interviews , 4 a few days and will be in tip top shape , 4 The Rematch .
Trump doesn't have to give Harris a Rematch , after The Rematch .
That wasn't in the Program and would be silly .
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I think Trump would have been better off not doing the last debate, and risk being called
a fraidycat.
So I don’t think he’ll make the same mistake again, but who knows.
Trump can do what he wants to do ,
He could have done no debates at all
with Harris
and everything would have still been
wonderful in MAGA land
But she goaded him into doing it
Julian and Pop, can you guys pass the talking stick to someone else?
When you're doing three consecutive posts, and you're doing it a few times each page, then it's time to pass the fucker on.
seeds wrote:Understandable
Donald Trump says he won't debate Kamala Harris again before the US presidential election - ABC News
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-13/trump-says-no-third-debate-agains...
he really is just a bully...that got bullied by a woman..now too scared to face her again, which is funny as she really isn't that skilled in public speaking or debating, It's hilarious.
I just deleted the last post.
Don't post outrage vids from YouTube with no commentary.
@ Stunet So just to clarify
Why are supafreaks and Jelly Flaters posts on the last page ok?
Is it just the lack of commentary
Or is there a certain definition of outrage
Heeby wrote:@ Stunet So just to clarify
Why are supafreaks and Jelly Flaters posts on the last page ok?
Is it just the lack of commentary
Or is there a certain definition of outrage
1) Not sure really.
2) Yes it's the lack of commentary. If you've got something to say, then say it....or, you know, type it.
3) Depends what mood you get me in.
Hope that clears things up for you.
My sense of humour differs from others and if I’ve upset anyone with posting memes, well then maybe talk to your dog . 
^^ love it
@stunet
So it’s the lack of commentary
Got it
Heeby wrote:@ stunet
1) well if your not sure about point 1 , it doesn’t really clear that up
2) lack of commentary clears that point up .
3) How do we know what sort of mood you’re in , when we post ?
Just stick to point 2 and you can't go wrong, Heebs.
My sense of humour ( and propensity 2 chat ) , differs from others , 2 :) !
If I have upset anyone , by me hogging the Talking Stick , I DO apologise .
I think I need a dog .
Lucky I don't know how to Post video clips !!!
Just saying .
What is one man’s sense of humour is SN’s long suffering readership’s old farts dad’s jokes!!
Given some of the stuff some contributors let fly with, I think Stu is entitled to a mood every now and again.
I hope he's in a good one now. ;)
Hi poppy
Well we’re definitely not going to show you
how to post video clips .
We would never hear the end of it
LoLo
Definitely get a dog, instead
Ouch that’s gotta hurt
Trumps social media company
Truth Social loses millions because of the debate
Investors urged to dump it.
Another failed business coming?
The US deficit is approaching $2 trillion, around 7% of the GDP for 2024. That’s bigger than the whole Australian economy. These are extraordinary numbers and no one seems to care. You would expect some talk about it considering the elections, inflation…But no, there is nothing. Truly weird times. Looks like Covid style of spending never stopped in the US.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-treasury-reports-380-billion-augus...
Also, some great info on below link. Interest alone is more than a trillion.
‘As of August 2024 it costs $1049 billion to maintain the debt, which is 17% of the total federal spending in fiscal year 2024.’
https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/national-debt/
It's all under control flollo.
Well done Juliang last post at 11:30 and no 1:00 to 3:00am post, you must have slept all the way through?
flollo wrote:The US deficit is approaching $2 trillion, around 7% of the GDP for 2024. That’s bigger than the whole Australian economy. These are extraordinary numbers and no one seems to care. You would expect some talk about it considering the elections, inflation…But no, there is nothing. Truly weird times. Looks like Covid style of spending never stopped in the US.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-treasury-reports-380-billion-augus...
Also, some great info on below link. Interest alone is more than a trillion.
‘As of August 2024 it costs $1049 billion to maintain the debt, which is 17% of the total federal spending in fiscal year 2024.’
https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/national-debt/
Crazy.
Do people still think it doesn't matter though is MMT still a thing?
@ Indo
How do you know I didn’t sleep from 7pm to 11pm
And then watch TV from 11pm until 2am and then sleep from 2 am until 6am ?
I don’t have to post all the time
“@indo
Or maybe I was too busy raving from 11.30
All night?
You can’t generally assume.
This is a Lionel Richy video
?si=COx9aRk_162mMjj7 "This is a Lionel Richy video..."
And you just posted three times in a row.
@stunet
Yes but they were very short compared to other posts eg @TBB or others
So I’m not sure what the directive is on number of posts compared to length of posts?
Go for a walk or a surf, mate.
@stunet yeah I was just about to
You to
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Guy
Is that a trick question ?
All Debts have 2B PAID , eventually .
Have a look at the Interest the USA and Australia , pay daily .
The question perhaps is , WHY do some governments try and show sensible fiscal restraint and others spend like Drunken soldiers .
Pissing Money all over the place and leaving the Mess , 4 someone else 2 Clean Up .
Look at the extreme measures Javier Milei is having to implement , 2 clean up the Fiscal Mess in Argentina .
Bugger
Ok @PD, please explain how government in the USA (and here if you like … and also in the UK) should pay it down
Same trick question Guy .
Please read my response above .
Please don't ask it 3 times .
Biden wan't to stop Life Appointments at the Supreme Court ,
We will have to call him LongShanks !
Judges were given 4 Life appointments due to Edward 1 , being such a Tyrant .
And U guys worry about Trump lol !
ahhh...
a certain cohorts aversion to numbers on full display...
and, in a different context, interesting numbers...
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/post-debate-undecided-voters-pick-tr...
Typical BS from @PD
Ok, I’ll spell it out for the cognitive impaired
A balance sheet has income and expenditure .. note the word “balance”.
Now you dipstick, again how do governments pay down debt?
Hello Guy
Gosh , U seem in a foul mood today .
Where is your smiley ?
I spent 30 years looking at balance sheets , no definition required .
Why don't U stop being a Dipstick and google " How do governments pay down debt " ?
There are a gazillion articles 4 U2 choose from .
U sound a WEF sort of Guy , perhaps start with their view ?
There are a gazillion examples of how governments have done it as well .
I gave U the example of Argentina ffs .
Piss off , please !
I don’t need google to know what represents good fiscal policy and how government should work down debt @PD but here’s more homework for your peabrain look at the rise of government debt coinciding with the rise of neoliberalism, there’s charts going back to before the clusterF to the current day … now get back to the playpen
Gosh Smiley
As I said at the beginning , a silly trick question from a smarty pants !
Fantastic , as you already know the Answer 2 your Question ,then please tell this pea brain , How just the Australian Government , should Reduce debt , U brainyak ?
That would B really interesting !!!
Stupid me , I am hoping to start with them slowing down Spending a bit .
Add in a Balance Sheet , some charts and maybe a video haha , but make it an Exec Summary , not a clusterF of Information ffs !
Please don't rush IT , I am enjoying my new Playpen , like a Pig in pooh , a Pigpen , perhaps :)) .
Passing the Talking Stick , Pop Style ( whatever that is ) .
SHAMala Harri oBUMa, whats it like to be found out?
Liar liar ,the Haitians want your cat
@Theanthonydavies
“Trumps supporters are like
turkeys voting for thanksgiving “
But what does that mean?
Emotionally they think authoritarianism
is a wonderful idea
One guy addressing all their issues,
Immigration etc
But in reality, it’s not a good idea for them at all, being at the bottom of society,
The first ones to be oppressed
@PD you’re repeatedly accusing me of a trick question to a post I deleted within 60 seconds precisely for the reason I didn't want to get into an inane debate with you or others. Nonetheless you came in all puffed up with your implied BS line about the sensible economic managers party. Your attention span is not good at all is it?
Hey Guy
Give it a break mate .
I mentioned NO fn Party in Australia or the fn US .
I mentioned Argentina trying Extreme measures , 2 pay down debt .
Don't blame me for your fn Brain fart , that U tried 2 clean up .
Imagine asking a bloody INANE ( so inane is looked like a trick ) question on Swellnet , that U know the Answer 2 , that U don't Want 2 debate with anyone ?
That's really Unreal and is making me Smiley , no lol :) !
What sort of Guy , would do that ? :)))
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You're in my Pigpens Naughty corner .
@PD, “how do you pay down government debt” taxation. Pretty simple. Pretty easy to fix. Having the figs to do it seems to be the sticking point. Anything else is just waffle.
Getting out of AUKUS shit deal of the century would be handy too.
hello soggy
That's just ONE side of a Balance Sheet .
Kamala has Plans to Increase Taxation , but Doesn't have any plan 2 pay down debt , that's a Mess 4 others 2 worry about .
Kamala approved , with her deciding vote on the Inflation Reduction Act , to get the US IRS 87000 new agents .
Her Taxation of Unrealised Capital Gains , IF approved is not only Ground Breaking , but Economy Breaking , in many commentators view .
The Government spending in the US went bananas with Covid .
With Biden , debt has gone Crazy .
There is a limit 2 how much Tax , any government can levy on it's citizens .
Unfortunately , there seems No Spending Limits , 4 Politicians .
It’s about who you tax and how much for what you’re taxing. I’m not talking about increasing the pressure on the working class to balance budgets. They’re already doing the heavy lifting. I’m talking the correct tax on corporations. World wide.
I’m not getting into Trump Kamala. Both absolutely shit options and that should be the discussion. Not who is less shit.
And it was DJT who handed out tax cuts to the wealthy, but don’t worry mrs K will get her turn if elected.
Absolute shit show,
And go you anti war protesters in Melbourne. Give ‘em shit.
Other side of the balance sheet would be get out of Ukraine, stop funding Isreal and decrease the disposable income to the security state. ( who works on behalf of the big corps who dodge tax. Win win.). We all knows it.
been struggling to understand our new system of funny money for quite a while now...
thought I'd gotten a basic grasp on it
then I watched this...
https://m.
&pp=ygURSG93IGlzIG1vbmV5IG1hZGU%3Dmy gawwwds... our modern modern tumult (MMT) is worse than I thought!
basic takeaways:
the reserve banks barely - if not, not at all - set the amount of $$$ printed - contrary to what my basic misunderstanding led me to believe...
cutting money supply comes with all sorts of problems
we're in way too deep to back out!
ie. we're cooked!
my limited understanding - these money gurus are more on 'the left' side of politics than right, seems they're dubious about MMT... but argue little alternative - so guardrails for money printing (spending) is their only solution...
(this vid probably supports a frown's funny money perspective more than popd's... but I'm still keen on a balance sheet... for other reasons... ie. devaluing of currency, and confidence)
long vid, but I'd be curious what you more knowledgeable market guys think about it all?
Looks interesting going to have to give it a view, but clicking on it 1hr & 40 mins i think some other time.
The most frustrating thing about any spending/debt from any governing be it local councils, state or federal government is just how much money is wasted and how little bang for buck they get,
well you are wrong Sippy free money only ever flows to assets-property and shares and we can all see how that has panned out … I also disagree that this money for nothing thing is a left thing coz the wealth transfer has only escalated under the process but please do carry on
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank