Modest surf continues short term while we watch TC Alfred's track southwards

Steve Shearer picture
Steve Shearer (freeride76)

Sydney Hunter Illawarra Surf Forecast by Steve Shearer (issued Fri 28th Feb)

Features of the Forecast (tl;dr)

  • Should see an increase in flukey E/NE cyclone swell from TC Rae Fri holding into Sat AM
  • More E/NE swell filtering down from tropics into the weekend likely with size remaining modest
  • Shallow troughy S wind changes Fri PM and Sun PM
  • Next week still dependent on movement of TC Alfred, likely to see increasing S-SE winds Mon and Tues 
  • A mix of SE swells and E/NE swells into early next week
  • Still potential for surf to become sizey from the E if TC Alfred continues southwards
  • Slow moving TC Alfred next week or sub-tropical descendant sends large swells to sub-tropics, smaller in temperate NSW

Recap

Nothing amazing surf-wise for the region since Wed with a small blend of E/NE and NE swells topping out in the 2ft range (very occ. bigger set). Conditions have been clean or semi-clean in the morning with a light N’ly flow before winds kick up from the N-NE in the a’noon. A S’ly change is just pushing through the Far South Coast and is expected to reach Sydney just before dark.

Still only very modest swells from the tropics- just enough for a grovel before work

This weekend (Mar 1-2)

No great change to the weekend forecast. In the Coral Sea, Severe TC Alfred (currently borderline Cat4 central pressure 956hPa, expected to weaken to Cat 3 during the day) is crawling slowly SE to Southwards. TC Seru is SE of New Caledonia and weakening to tropical storm status through today as it slowly moves south-eastwards and then stalls. Across Southern NSW we’ll see the trough that brings tonight’s S’ly change quickly stall and dissipate through tomorrow. 

Expect a morning SW flow, tending S then SE and clocking around N/NE through the a’noon with winds freshening to mod and even fresh paces. The majority of the cyclonic swell energy will be focussed on the tropics and sub-tropics with only more of the same small blend of swells for temperate NSW. That will see more 2ft surf through Sat, possibly boosting a notch with NE windswell in the a’noon- but not adding more than a foot of short period swell energy into the mix (2-3ft).

Similar winds into Sun morning. O/night winds look to keep a signal of NE windswell into Sun morning, in the 2-3ft range, mixed with better quality inconsistent 2ft surf filtering down from the tropics. Another trough is expected to bring a shallow S/SE change early/mid a’noon, with a small signal of short range swell adding low quality junky surf to 2ft from that direction by nightfall. 

Next week (Mar 3 onwards)

OK. Under current modelling, most major models have TC Alfred, or a sub-tropical cyclonic descendant of it, slow moving off the SEQLD coast early next week. That leads to high confidence for an extended period of very large surf in the sub-tropics, possibly of an historic nature in terms of size and duration. 

There’s still some uncertainty surrounding more temperate areas. Sunday’s trough may deepen initially and focus winds from a new dominant high moving from the Bight across Tasmania. This would see mod/fresh S-S/SE winds develop Mon and building swells through Mon and Tues from this local Tasman sea source, potentially into the 3-4ft range. We’ll also see better quality E/NE swells into the mix from TC Seru and it’s residual fetch into the 3ft range.

Depending on the still highly uncertain movement of TC Alfred, which is expected to become erratic during this timeframe with all options still on the table including a SEQLD/Wide Bay coastal crossing, we may see the lower wind-field of Alfred or ex-Alfred become continuous with the developing SE-E/SE fetch along the trough line. 

Under that scenario, we’d see large to XL swells for the sub-tropics and building swells for temperate NSW from the SE-E/SE with SE winds.

Size provisionally in the 4-6ft range. 

Confidence remains very low though as we head into the second half of next week due to the erratic movement expected from the cyclone or sub-tropical hybrid system it may evolve into. 

If you are chasing sub-tropical point surf at the classic locations it may be a good time to consider a road trip or quick flight- notwithstanding the fact that even most of those waves may be over-powered during the peak of the swell.

Other-wise, watch this space, we’ll update below the line (in QLD notes) as information comes to hand.

Seeya Mon and have a great weekend!

Comments

Craig's picture
Craig's picture
Craig Friday, 28 Feb 2025 at 12:24pm

Latest notes are live.

Gilligan's picture
Gilligan's picture
Gilligan Friday, 28 Feb 2025 at 12:45pm

" That leads to high confidence for an extended period of very large surf in the sub-tropics, possibly of an historic nature in terms of size and duration."

Best line ever written in a surf report.

sean killen's picture
sean killen's picture
sean killen Friday, 28 Feb 2025 at 1:07pm

Went for a Friday dust off at my local bluebottle invasion zillions of them

batfink's picture
batfink's picture
batfink Friday, 28 Feb 2025 at 2:24pm

Been the worst January and large part of February for bluebottles in my neck of the woods (Sydney) and my other Cennie Coast haunts. Plagues of the buggers.

stunet's picture
stunet's picture
stunet Friday, 28 Feb 2025 at 2:34pm

Really? It's not like we've been without them here in the Illawarra yet I'd say it's the best summer I can recall. Till a fortnight ago I'd seen barely any.

Jellyblubbers on the other hand! Thousands of the bastards, easily outnumbering blueys as the apex irritant.

FrazP's picture
FrazP's picture
FrazP Friday, 28 Feb 2025 at 7:46pm

Really boys - surprised by that. Why pretty much none at Nulla? Least I can recall in fact. Evo - do you agree? We have had a day or two but outside that sweet f all.

The artful soap dodger's picture
The artful soap dodger's picture
The artful soap... Sunday, 2 Mar 2025 at 12:26pm

Agree, worst summer for at least a decade for the little blue bastards in Newy

joesydney's picture
joesydney's picture
joesydney Friday, 28 Feb 2025 at 1:53pm

One question - do I need to invest in a new board for this swell….there is only one correct answer…

Chris Buykx's picture
Chris Buykx's picture
Chris Buykx Friday, 28 Feb 2025 at 3:44pm

You will be needing a new board (or two) after this swell. Invest for the future!

evosurfer's picture
evosurfer's picture
evosurfer Friday, 28 Feb 2025 at 1:54pm

Where does the sub tropics start and finish im thinking of a road trip

stunet's picture
stunet's picture
stunet Friday, 28 Feb 2025 at 2:03pm

There's no fixed line but my own take is where the pandanus begin.

So Creso.

Steve may have a different opinion.

freeride76's picture
freeride76's picture
freeride76 Friday, 28 Feb 2025 at 2:39pm

Cresso is close enough.
Run it down to Port to be fair and inclusive.

Thegrowingtrend.com's picture
Thegrowingtrend.com's picture
Thegrowingtrend.com Friday, 28 Feb 2025 at 4:31pm

hey steve, Will we get stronger period side band energy from the alfard? ie south NsW having more North in the swell as well as the modeled south east/east? Obviously if everything is current

Vince Neil's picture
Vince Neil's picture
Vince Neil Friday, 28 Feb 2025 at 4:55pm

i have run a ruler over the forecast and comments and confidently state, no one at risk of over frothing, whatsoever.

evosurfer's picture
evosurfer's picture
evosurfer Friday, 28 Feb 2025 at 9:54pm

Im starting to believe that this alfred dude dosent exist no where has any real swell. Where is all the swell going? And to top it OFF the whole east coast gets any well deserved waves its going to be fucken onshore the entire non event. FURRRRRRRFCK

Craig's picture
Craig's picture
Craig Saturday, 1 Mar 2025 at 5:35am

Have a look where Alfred is Evo, still way up north. Central Qld and south-east Qld are currently getting it.

belly's picture
belly's picture
belly Saturday, 1 Mar 2025 at 7:00am

I'm not complaining with the latest GFS run, banks are pretty good in my zone.

belly's picture
belly's picture
belly Sunday, 2 Mar 2025 at 9:00am

Just to clarify so it doesn't seem like a dick comment in terms of potential flooding risk. The GFS run I saw early yesterday morning still had the cyclone stalling and then being whisked away to the NE and out to sea.
Fingers cross for everyone in SE Qld and NNSW this week.

evosurfer's picture
evosurfer's picture
evosurfer Saturday, 1 Mar 2025 at 10:38am

I cant take it anymore with no waves Im driving up early Monday morning hopefully wont have to go all the way to the Gold Coast. The wind direction looks like the biggest issue
What do you think Craig about the wind on the Nth coast

southernraw's picture
southernraw's picture
southernraw Saturday, 1 Mar 2025 at 11:18am

Any footage or whispers coming out of Timor yet?
Solomon Islands?
Must be going off it's head right now.

stunet's picture
stunet's picture
stunet Saturday, 1 Mar 2025 at 11:46am

Timor, as in East Timor?

AndyM's picture
AndyM's picture
AndyM Saturday, 1 Mar 2025 at 12:00pm

Real tight squeeze to Timor :)

bbbird's picture
bbbird's picture
bbbird Saturday, 1 Mar 2025 at 5:04pm

Tight squeeze at Noosa

Halfscousehalfcockneyfullaussie's picture
Halfscousehalfcockneyfullaussie's picture
Halfscousehalfc... Sunday, 2 Mar 2025 at 11:59am

Hopefully FNC nsw or se qld doesn’t cop a smashing with Alfred.. is there any risk to the greater Sydney region? Or models still all over the shop?

joesydney's picture
joesydney's picture
joesydney Sunday, 2 Mar 2025 at 12:17pm

http://www.bom.gov.au/cyclone/7dayforecast/

No risk to Sydney but se qld and fat north nsw need to batten down the hatches

The artful soap dodger's picture
The artful soap dodger's picture
The artful soap... Sunday, 2 Mar 2025 at 12:31pm

Where can we find the latest updates on Alf and his critical path?

joesydney's picture
joesydney's picture
joesydney Sunday, 2 Mar 2025 at 12:35pm
joesydney's picture
joesydney's picture
joesydney Sunday, 2 Mar 2025 at 12:35pm
Sprout's picture
Sprout's picture
Sprout Sunday, 2 Mar 2025 at 4:47pm

This lad makes an interesting job of it. Doesn't look good rain wise for NNSW.

Also BOM.

Halfscousehalfcockneyfullaussie's picture
Halfscousehalfcockneyfullaussie's picture
Halfscousehalfc... Sunday, 2 Mar 2025 at 4:29pm

Looks like northern nsw going to get hammered with rain…… Sydney and surrounds could possibly get heavy rain too with the remenents of Alfred if the low drifts further south… Boms Alfred you tube update was posted 2 hours ago