Lotsa fun swell from the east and north-east

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

Sydney, Hunter and Illawarra Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Monday 28th January)

Best Days: Stacks of NE swell all week, best Thurs AM. Fun weekend mid range E'ly swell, best Sun with light winds. Long term looking dynamic in the South Pacific too. 

Recap: Saturday’s NE swell came in slightly under budget around 2ft, but pulsed into Sunday with 2-3ft sets at NE facing beaches. A long range S/SE groundswell built throughout the day, and we’ve had a couple of isolated reports of 3ft+ surf at some exposed spots, but most south facing beaches saw surf size pushing a very inconsistent 2-3ft. Early light offshore winds swung S’ly around the middle of the day. Today saw the S/SE groundswell hold steady at some beaches (though not all) with morning 3ft sets easing throughout the day. Early light winds swung moderate S’ly throughout the day. 

This week (Jan 29 - Feb 1)

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Today’s S/SE swell will ease steadily into Tuesday so I’m not expecting much size from this region.

However, we do have plenty of waves on the way. A stationary Tasman high will freshen N/NE winds about the coast this week, slowly building NE windswells from Tuesday into Thursday. To begin with, surf size will be a little undersized early Tuesday around 2ft+ but should reach 3-4ft by Thursday. Expect smaller surf all week at south facing beaches, and across the northern Hunter. 

Local winds on Tuesday and Wednesday don’t look great; we may see brief periods of lighter N’ly winds early mornings, but for the most part it’ll be fresh and therefore surface conditions will be bumpy and wind affected. Water temps will probably take another dive too.

On Thursday, an approaching southerly change will see winds ease rapidly in the morning and become variable under a trough, and with size holding a good 4ft at NE facing beaches early morning, we should see slightly lumpy but improving and otherwise very fun waves at most beaches. Size will however ease throughout the day. 

The southerly change is due into the South Coast on Thursday afternoon and will reach Sydney overnight, driving fresh S/SE winds into the region for Friday, though it’ll ease steadily during the day. 

As such, to finish the week we should see plenty of local southerly windswell in the lee of the change, with size around 3-4ft. Quality won't be high but at least it'll provide some surf to those south facing beaches that have dipped out under the persistent NE pattern of late.

Although the NE and S/SE windswells will be the dominant energies this week, we do have a couple of other areas to keep a watch on. 

An intense Southern Ocean low will pass just south of Tasmania on Monday, but it looks poorly aligned within our swell window. The models have long period S’ly groundswell glancing our coast later Tuesday (South Coast) and Wednesday (remaining coasts) with peak swell periods in the 17-18 second range, but I don’t think there’ll be much size at most beaches - a small handful of reliable south swell magnets may pick up stray 2-3ft sets if we're super lucky, but on the whole, I really wouldn’t value this as a reliable swell source in any way shape or form. 

Elsewhere, the trades are expected to slowly redevelop over the coming week though I doubt this will be a prominent source for swell for some time (detailed below).

Additionaly, a forecast sub-tropical low developing NE of New Zealand this week has been erased by the computer models over the weekend, so even though it wasn't viewed favourably as a swell source anyway, we can now effectively write it off completely. 

This weekend (Feb 2 - 3)

The weekend looks potentially very fun at this stage.

Friday’s southerly change is expected to stall across the Mid North Coast, and a building ridge of high pressure to the south will broaden an easterly flow through the central Tasman Sea, aimed nicely through our swell window.

This looks worthy of a fun E’ly swell both days, peaking somewhere around the 3-4ft range at exposed beaches. 

Saturday’s winds look a little iffy at the moment under the influence of the ridge (i.e. onshore), but it’s currently expected to break down into Sunday leaving us with light variable winds and therefore clean conditions.

As such, Sunday is my pick of the weekend right now, but I’ll refine the details on Wednesday. 

Next week (Feb 4 onwards)

Our long term focus swings to the tropics, where the monsoon trough is redeveloping across the top end, and expected to develop several tropical lows - and possible tropical cyclones - through the Coral Sea and South Pacific from about Sunday or Monday onwards for the following week or two. 

Or course, it’s still a very long time away, and the presence of a cyclone in this region does not necessarily guarantee a swell event of any kind for SE Qld, let alone Southern NSW. However, these patterns are slow moving so it’s shaping up to be an extended period of synoptic watching across the Coral and South Pacific Seas for signs of favourable swell generating systems. 

Right now there's a suggestion we'll see a significant tropical cyclone track southwards along the eastern side of Fiji (and eventually out of the associated swell shadow) around the middle of next week, stalling north of New Zealand - which paints an exciting picture for a large E/NE groundswell in our region later next week and into the weekend.

But it’s still early days, and very likely that we’ll see significant changes to the model guidance with each successive update. 

See you Wednesday!

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davidinindo Tuesday, 29 Jan 2019 at 12:12am

Copy and paste an old report??????????

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rob108 Tuesday, 29 Jan 2019 at 1:44pm

Must be, "This weekend (Feb 3 - 4)", Feb (2 - 3) is this weekend.

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thermalben Tuesday, 29 Jan 2019 at 1:49pm

How could I copy an old report? And why would I bother? 

It's a manual error as rob108 alluded to. I just didn't count the right number of days through the transition from Jan to Feb. 

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anorbury Tuesday, 29 Jan 2019 at 7:49am

I know things are competitive between Swellnet and Coastalwatch but would be refreshing to clearly admit when forecast got it wrong - if there was a 3 foot wave over long weekend wasn't in eastern suburbs which has both south and nor east magnets

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thermalben Tuesday, 29 Jan 2019 at 8:03am

Here's some 2-3ft NE swell at Manly Sunday morning.

Here's some 3ft+ S'ly swell at Curly Monday morning.

All detailed in real time, in the comments in Friday's Forecaster Notes.

Along with an independent report from geoffrey (I think he's in the Illawarra?) on Sunday morning: "Was some 4 foot groundswell lines hitting this morning and the NE swell kicked a bit this arvo too. Not too bad a day all in all."

https://www.swellnet.com/reports/forecaster-notes/sydney-hunter-illawarr...

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dannyz Tuesday, 29 Jan 2019 at 9:54am

you must be talking 3ft Hawaiian size right?

my cenny coast beachy had easy 3ft sets around midday today

thought it was pretty spot on

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thermalben Tuesday, 29 Jan 2019 at 10:29am

Around midday today? I admire your excellent short term forecast skill!

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joesydney Tuesday, 29 Jan 2019 at 12:44pm

Where is the south swell magnet in the EB? Its not Bondi.....Bondi might face South but its a big bay so all swell energy entering the bay is considerably diluted by the time it hits the beach. All EB beaches have good size Southern headlands which block south swell.

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thermalben Tuesday, 29 Jan 2019 at 1:33pm

Bondi is a great south swell magnet. Mainly the southern end. 

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CMC Tuesday, 29 Jan 2019 at 2:54pm

I don't get why some people have a problem with a surf report being slightly over or under the actual waves they perceive to be 2 - 3 ft??
Surf is going to vary based on many factors such as bathymetry, beach aspect, tides etc from one beach to another
I see the surf report/forecast as a good guide to what it will be but then allow some tolerance in size up or down to judge the surf.
At the end of the day, go to the beach and make a decision!!

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anorbury Tuesday, 29 Jan 2019 at 4:29pm

Thanks for comments - sounds like EB missed out - at your next forecasting round table maybe consider surfline method of calling wave face to reduce some of subjectivity

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thermalben Tuesday, 29 Jan 2019 at 4:54pm

Re: wave heights - we've been calling it as per 'Surfers Feet' (head high = 3ft, double head high = 6ft) for seventeen years now.

It's ingrained into the system - for better or for worse - but our estimates are that at least 80% of the Australian surf population measures wave heights this way. So, we're sticking with this measurement (to convert it to US 'face feet' heights, all you gotta do is double it and take a bit off).

I can only imagine the outrage if the weekend forecast had been 6ft+ instead of 3ft+...

And all of those 6-8ft winter swells in Torquay where we'd suddenly start calling it 12-15ft...

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Stu2d2 Tuesday, 29 Jan 2019 at 7:25pm

Thanks Ben.

Every time I have a chat a mate from California I start to think he has become a charger with all the 8ft bombs he has been catching. Still overhead I guess.

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thermalben Tuesday, 29 Jan 2019 at 7:43pm

I think the main thing to strive for is consistency. 

And that's what often bugs me with the WSL. They frequently switch the way they measure wave heights, depending on the location. It seems when they need to drum up some hype, they'll measure it in Face Feet (because the number is bigger and sounds more impressive, I guess?) - but other times they'll revert to Surfers Feet. 

It should be one, or the other. 

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FrazP Wednesday, 30 Jan 2019 at 3:08pm

Looks like the models calling the long period Sth were right Ben.

Just close outs here though with the banks.

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maka2000 Wednesday, 30 Jan 2019 at 9:09am

stupid greengos, one day I've chat to a dude from california, he was telling me stories how he was surfing in 8ft waves, i was impressed with his stories untill we've got 4ft east swell and he chickened out just to paddle out. I guess he was surifng 2-3ft waves back in US which were 6-8ft in face. I guess the 4ft of SE in NSW would be 8-10-ft in US , so we're all charges here :D

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FrazP Tuesday, 29 Jan 2019 at 8:00pm

Friday, we had a good bit of swell in this neck of the woods Ben but nothing of note after. Definately not the 3ft we can see elsewhere.

At the risk of being heckled, tend to call punchy head high 3-4ft, head and a half 6ft and double overhead 8ft. I must be a bit behind, as I thought we were all on the same page.