Victory-at-sea for the weekend

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

Sydney, Hunter and Illawarra Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Wednesday 9th April)

Best Days: Thurs: nice conditions, easing inconsistent S'ly swell. Fri onwards: plenty of large S'ly swell though accompanied by gusty S'ly winds. 

Recap: How do you rate the accuracy of a forecast where some beaches are flat and others are solid? We’re in the midst of a long spell of flukey southerly swell that’s lighting up some beaches, but not even giving others the courtesy of a small rideable peak - even some beaches that usually pull in south swell pretty well. Yesterday saw occasional 2-3ft sets at some beaches (but flat at others), and today we’ve heard reports from the South Coast to the Hunter of 4ft+ bombs. Buoy data supports these observations with swell periods increasing to 15 seconds yesterday (with the first flukey south swell) and today’s second flukey south swell went up another notch to 17 seconds. Out of interest, this south swell is sourced from the same system generating the energy enroute to Tahiti, as per Craig’s article yesterday.

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This week (May 10 - 11)

Today’s long period southerly swell will peak overnight and ease slowly throughout Thursday. Again, there’ll be large range in size between exposed south facing beaches and other spots, and set waves will be inconsistent. 

At this stage it’s likely we’ll see many south facing beaches around the 2-3ft range early morning (easing to 1-2ft during the day, probably early on) though reliable swell magnets such as the Hunter coast may see early 3-4ft+ bombs before it trends down to 2-3ft by lunchtime. Winds will be freshening offshore all day so conditions will be clean. Expect long breaks between sets, and beaches that are not exposed to the south will be considerably smaller - almost flat in places.

A small trough-cum-closed low in the Central Tasman Sea also looks impressive in single synoptic snapshots but unfortunately it’s expected to be whisked away to the east more quickly than is desired for optimal swell generation. I’m doubtful on its swell potential (which is a shame as it’s very well aligned within our E/NE swell window) so I’m keeping my expectations low.

However, there’s a modest fetch trailing to the NE that should supply some slow, inconsistent 1-2ft waves building Thursday and holding into Friday but I’m just not confident that we’ll see much more size than that. The strength of the head of the fetch suggests more, but its forward track rapidly erodes that potential.

Also in the water on Friday is a possible small south swell originating from SW gales exiting eastern Bass Strait late Thursday. It’s not a particularly strong, sustained fetch so I’m doubtful of much size but occasional 2ft sets are possible throughout the day, more likely the afternoon.

As it is, Friday looks tricky on the surface anyway with gusty offshore winds at time. It’ll be very clean but small swells like this often struggle with gale force westerlies.

This weekend (May 12 - 13)

There's been a big swing in the model guidance for the weekend. In short, it’s sped up the timeline for this evolving cut off low across the Tasmanian/Victorian regions, that’ll transition into a Tasman Low as the weekend plays out.

And, it’s no less tricky to forecast for either. The latest model guidance has the low east of Bass Strait on Friday (see chart at end of this report), aiming a storm-force S/SE fetch into the Gippsland (eastern Victoria) as well as the southern and eastern Tasmanian coasts.  

This is just outside of our swell window, but we’re now expecting storm force southerly winds to develop parallel to the Southern NSW coast early Saturday morning. This will result in blustery westerlies tending south-west (by early/mid morning), then south-southwest throughout the day, along with a rapid increase in very large short range south swell. Our surf model is currently estimating 15ft (!) at south facing beaches late Saturday and Sunday, which is plausible given the local winds - though conditions will be victory-at-sea. In reality we’re probably looking at 10-12ft storm surf at the height of the event. Protected locations will be considerably smaller. 

Sunday looks much the same with easing through initially gale force plus SW winds and slowly abating (!) surf, likely in the 10-12ft range and becoming smaller throughout the day. Therefore, protected southern corners will have the only rideable options this weekend. Even then it’s going to be hard work.

Let’s fine tune the specifics on Friday. It’s possible we could see a downgrade in the size but any surf we see this weekend is highly likely to be accompanied with very windy conditions. And that ain’t a good thing in my books.

Next week (May 14 onwards)

This Tasman Low will remain slow moving for a few days into next week, in fact there’s a suggestion we’ll see an unrelated Southern Ocean front barrel through the lower Tasman Sea around Wednesday, giving it a second wind (boom, tish) and maintaining elevated wave heights across Southern NSW through the rest of the week. 

Therefore, most of next week looks sizeable and generally breezey. If anything, we’ll probably see a period between systems of lighter winds (say, later Monday or Tuesday?) but in general it’s looking like being an extended run of strong surf best suited to protected points, corners and coves. 

See you Friday!

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billie Wednesday, 9 May 2018 at 6:42pm

These are those days the fellas that hassle for the 1-2 footers at North Steyne are nowhere to be seen.

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channel-bottom Wednesday, 9 May 2018 at 9:26pm

At 10-12 foot, I can’t see anyone out at North Steyne, including you!

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billie Thursday, 10 May 2018 at 5:37pm

I'll be all over the local reefs like a bad case of herpes. Certain locals will be sucking their dummies

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mg7 Wednesday, 9 May 2018 at 6:54pm

How big would the south corner of manly be sat/sun morning if its a large SSW swell? would we see out of control or 6ft+ waves or potentially a lot smaller - if its SSW at 3m with a 12 sec period i would say under 6ft???

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mg7 Wednesday, 9 May 2018 at 6:58pm

Nvm its 5m almost dead south by sunday so I guess no surf sunday morning D:

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billie Wednesday, 9 May 2018 at 7:50pm

Why not walk 500 metres up the beach mate?

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blindboy Wednesday, 9 May 2018 at 7:40pm

BOM calling swell rising to 2-3m on Saturday.....with a brisk 40k offshore! Interesting because they almost always overcall these events a few days out.

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pigdog Wednesday, 9 May 2018 at 9:45pm

they have to overcall the weather report by law after the fkd up the weather report in the sydney to hobart yacht race in 1998...they failed to update/upgrade the storm.
example... Please be aware
Wind gusts can be 40 percent stronger than the averages given here, and maximum waves may be up to twice the height.

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thermalben Thursday, 10 May 2018 at 8:32am

"they have to overcall the weather report by law"

That's completely untrue.

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pigdog Thursday, 10 May 2018 at 4:52pm

second bottom line......

RECOMMENDATION - WEATHER FORECASTING
I recommend that weather forecasts which are specifically provided for yacht racing fleets contain:-
(a) As well as the average winds expected, the maximum gusts of wind that are likely to occur; and
(b) As well as the significant wave heights expected, the maximum wave heights that are likely to be encountered.
This recommendation is based upon the following rationale:-
1. During my investigators' inquiries, and during the oral evidence it became abundantly clear that the racing yacht crews as well as the race officials, were unaware that the Bureau of Meteorology in its weather forecasts gave only average winds and significant wave heights. That having received a weather forecast the recipient was then to:-
(a) Add to the average wind forecasted 40% of that average wind to take into account the gust that may occur; and
(b) That the maximum wave height likely to be encountered is:-
(i) One out of every 100 waves is likely to be 50% higher than the significant wave
height;
(ii) Rising to 76% of significant wave height for the case of one wave in 500 waves;
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(iii) Rising to 86% for the case of one wave in 1000 waves; and
(iv) Rising to 95% for the case of one wave in 2000 waves.
(Source letter 1st May, 2000 from Mr. Geoffrey Love, Acting Director Meteorology, Bureau of Meteorology, to Counsel Assisting).
I am quite sure that all those who have followed this Inquest would be reasonably conversant with these, now well published, formulas. However as with all knowledge it may be forgotten or simply not passed on.
I note that the Bureau of Meteorology did in fact adopt the approach of giving maximum wind gusts and wave heights in the 1999 Sydney to Hobart Race. The example of such a weather forecast shown to me states the following regarding wind and wave forecasts:-

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pigdog Thursday, 10 May 2018 at 4:55pm

i may have added extra mayonaise on my first comment....sorry

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thermalben Thursday, 10 May 2018 at 4:56pm

Your claim is still untrue.

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pigdog Thursday, 10 May 2018 at 4:57pm

I note that the Bureau of Meteorology did in fact adopt the approach of giving maximum wind gusts and wave heights in the 1999 Sydney to Hobart Race.

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pigdog Thursday, 10 May 2018 at 5:04pm

im going to stick by my mayo claim after 1998 sydney to hobart bom put in there forcast..."Wind gusts can be 40 percent stronger than the averages given here, and maximum waves may be up to twice the height." if thats not overcalling to some extent im wrong. have a great weekend guys.
Brock.

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thermalben Thursday, 10 May 2018 at 5:06pm

What’s the point in overcalling just to cover their arse? The BOM forecasts utilise computer model guidance and complex algorithms.. they just don’t double it for the sake of legalities.

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pigdog Thursday, 10 May 2018 at 5:17pm

6 sailers died thats why they "the finding and recommendations report" recommended changes im guessing.....

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thermalben Thursday, 10 May 2018 at 5:20pm

I’m aware of what happened.. I’ve read a lot of books on this event.

But.. back to the original point.. the BOM are not legally required to “overcall the weather report”.

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pigdog Thursday, 10 May 2018 at 5:25pm

yea i know i said i put a fkn shit load of mayonnaise on my first comment....

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pigdog Thursday, 10 May 2018 at 5:27pm

where is Garry G when you need him:)

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Larry Lee Thursday, 10 May 2018 at 6:13pm

I believe last time i saw Gary he was frothing at the mouth and preparing to wax up near his stick . Facey forecasts must be strong for this event .

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Gary G Thursday, 10 May 2018 at 9:55pm

Gary’s recommendation is to make sure you have a use for all that mayonnaise before you lather yourself up. Gary advises adding the mayo just before the point of thickening so you can experience it coming together at close quarters.

Get it wrong and it’ll split in front of your eyes: you’re left all alone with a greasy mess and had better hope you haven’t overdosed on the dijon In the recipe.

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Halfscousehalfc... Wednesday, 9 May 2018 at 7:58pm

I saw a big set clean up a few crew this arvo at a cenny coast reef that’s sucks in some south swell.... just saying

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thermalben Thursday, 10 May 2018 at 8:31am

Solid sets in Newy this morning:

Here's an inside set at Newy too (couple of fellas splitting the peak):

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Boog lyfe Thursday, 10 May 2018 at 2:04pm

Sigh... so much for these all day westerlies that were supposed to hang around newy...

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chook Thursday, 10 May 2018 at 3:37pm

conditions have been so clean and smooth that a SUP and goat boater were out at bronte.
can't wait for bronte to return to its usual shit self.

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OllieB Thursday, 10 May 2018 at 4:26pm

Recon it's big enough / windy enough this weekend for a few Sydney novelty waves to pop up?

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stunet Thursday, 10 May 2018 at 4:31pm

The direction is gonna be very south which won't help the novelty spots. Unless it's absolutely huge Port Hacking, the harbour, and the Broken Bay areas generally need a little bit of east in the swell.