Small S'ly swell Thurs, small NE swell Fri, ahead of a flat weekend

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

South-east Queensland and Northern NSW Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Wednesday 28th September)

Best Days: Thurs: small S'ly swell inside protected northern corners across Northern NSW (may be a lag in the Far North). Fri: small NE swell with clean conditions, surf early for the most size. Thurs/Fri: small S'y swell for Northern NSW.

Recap: Varying degrees of southerly swell have pulsed across Northern NSW’s south facing beaches over the last two days though there have been periods of smaller conditions between swell fronts. Local winds have touch almost every quadrant at some point - take Cape Byron for example, which yesterday saw a W’ly flow before dawn, then S’ly by mid-morning, E’ly by mid-afternoon then N’ly by dinnertime. Today has seen a similar spread of wind directions. 

This week (Thursday 29th - Friday 30th)

Thursday looks pretty dicey, mainly due to a strengthening N’ly wind about most coasts.

To begin with, we’ll actually see a secondary south swell move across the Northern NSW coast, arriving across the Mid North Coast early morning, and the Far North Coast around lunchtime. This will have originated from a poorly aligned secondary low that developed in the lower Tasman Sea today, at the tail end of the front responsible for today’s new south swell. 

No major size is expected from this source (the fetch is strong but it’s aimed tup towards Fiji), and with freshening northerly winds you’ll have to tuck into a sheltered corner for the next waves, but 2-3ft+ sets are possible at south swell magnets as the energy glances the coast. If you dial into a period of temporarily light winds you could score some nice beachies. But this swell wont do much north of the border. 

Additionally, we’ll see a building N’ly windswell throughout Thursday. Unfortunately, model guidance has slightly downgraded the potential size over the last few runs - the fetch is not expected to be quite as strong nor as wide as previously modelled. Exposed NE facing beaches should reach a late peak around 2ft+ across the Gold and Tweed Coasts (smaller across the Sunshine Coast), with locations south of Coffs Harbour possibly up to 3ft+.  

This downgrade isn’t so much a problem for Thursday, as poor conditions were generally expected anyway. However, the earlier arrival of the NW change will shut off the supply of new swell on Thursday evening, which means surf size will start to fall overnight. And this has an impact on Friday’s potential surf as we’re now looking at smaller waves than was suggested on Monday.

That being said, as was also mentioned on Monday, the dynamics of the approaching front mean that the Gold/Tweed Coast’s immediate northern swell window will remain active for a little longer overnight Thursday so early Friday morning should bear some fruit across exposed beaches in the Far North. I’m expecting clean peaky waves around 2ft at exposed swell magnets, but not a great deal elsewhere. Size will ease throughout the day. 

Surf size will probably be smaller across the Sunshine Coast, but the North and Mid North Coasts should see 1.5-2ft sets through the morning (at exposed NE facing beaches) before size eases throughout the day

All open beaches will however be nice and clean with fresh offshore winds. 

This weekend (Oct 1 - Oct 2)

Looks like Monday’s suggestion for a possible flat weekend may very well come to fruition. 

The intense mid-latitude low pressure system currently impacting South Australia is expected to move slowly across South-eastern Australia over the coming days, directing westerly gales across our southern swell window. If anything there’ll be a touch of north in the direction, extending all the way down to Tasmanian latitudes, which means lots of westerly swell for the West Coast of New Zealand but pancake conditions across the East Coast of Australia.

There is still minor hope that the westerly gales existing eastern Bass Strait on Saturday will swing slightly south of west for a period, which could generate a minor south swell for exposed south swell magnets across the Lower Mid North Coast later Sunday but I’m not holding any hope right now.

You’d be much better off choosing some other activity away from the surf this weekend. 

Next week (Oct 3 onwards)

Northerly winds will return on Monday morning ahead of an afternoon north-west tending westerly change, in conjunction with a very active series of weather systems across the SE corner of the country.

In fact, this storm track looks like it’ll ride (unusually) north of Tasmanian latitudes, which means that apart from a couple of brief, flukey south swells (every time the westerly fetch swings momentarily south of west), it won’t be until the second half of the week that our south swell prospects will improve - once the broader upper level long wave pattern moves to the east. 

So, the overall outlook seems to be a possible small N’ly windswell Monday - maybe a late window of opportunity at exposed beaches as winds swing NW? - and then tiny conditions with mainly westerly winds on Tuesday and Wednesday

A small troughy system NE of New Zealand is expected to intensify over the weekend and may produce a small E’ly swell for SE Qld and Far Northern NSW early-mid next week, but the fetch is expected to track slow eastwards which really puts a damper on its swell potential. We may see a few inconsistent 1-2ft sets but I am doubtful they'll appear at many beaches.

Otherwise, the aforementioned frontal passage across the SE corner of the country should kick up a new south swell for Thursday and Friday across Northern NSW as the fetch slowly swings south of west in the lower Tasman Sea; no major size is expected but we'll probably see some 3ft sets at south swell magnets. 

SE Qld looks like it’ll remain tiny for quite some time.

See you Friday - hopefully I’ll have some better news!

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roubydouby Wednesday, 28 Sep 2016 at 7:51pm

What is this, purgatory?

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freeride76 Wednesday, 28 Sep 2016 at 8:26pm

it's a weird pattern.

so far for Sep we've had hardly any NE episodes and constant W'lies with small S swells.

apart from the sharks it's been fun.

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mcsc Thursday, 29 Sep 2016 at 8:45am

Gday Ben, just to clarify ... You're forecasting 1-2ft on the exposed swell magnets on Sunshine Coast at dawn Friday?

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thermalben Thursday, 29 Sep 2016 at 2:10pm

Yep.

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thermalben Thursday, 29 Sep 2016 at 2:10pm

Kinda tempting on a longboard...

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donweather Thursday, 29 Sep 2016 at 3:40pm

Hmmmm, wind going NW sooner than forecast. That can't be good for the overnight N/NE swell production that was forecast.

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mcsc Thursday, 29 Sep 2016 at 3:54pm

Nope.

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thermalben Thursday, 29 Sep 2016 at 4:07pm

Could be local effects.

High res models still maintain N'ly gales (tending N/NW) just off the coast until around 1am. Should still see 1-2ft across the Sunny Coast, wouldn't be surprised if the Gold Coast nudges 2ft+ though the peak will probably occur between midnight and dawn, and will be trending down quickly at first light, so there's certainly a chance that it could drop too rapidly before sunrise. It's just a local windswell, after all.

Either way, I wouldn't be doing any major highway miles for this swell :)

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roubydouby Thursday, 29 Sep 2016 at 4:52pm

That southerly swell was really performing at coffs this morning.

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thermalben Thursday, 29 Sep 2016 at 4:57pm

How big RD?

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roubydouby Thursday, 29 Sep 2016 at 10:20pm

The corner at the Sth magnet was solid 3- 4ft, with a few stray bigger ones. Down the beach was a bit smaller.
Wasn't expecting it but very glad it happened.

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_benno Thursday, 29 Sep 2016 at 7:10pm

Got waved in this arv at Wurtulla by a guy surfing near me. Reckoned he saw a decent sized shark close by. He wasn't 100% but sure enough that neither of us paddled back out! Not common up this way.

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waxyfeet Friday, 30 Sep 2016 at 2:01pm

Kawana beach was closed today due to a sighting by Westpac heli... might be the same guy lurking!

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thermalben Thursday, 29 Sep 2016 at 7:24pm

2ft sets on the Tweed this afternoon, couple of bigger waves at the magnets but swallowed up by the late high tide. Was surprisingly reasonable on the surface as winds weren't too strong. Hopefully we'll see some small peelers in the morning.

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donweather Friday, 30 Sep 2016 at 1:30pm

Yeah I got some similar fun ones right on dark Thurs arvo also. Peaky and punchy on the inner shorey. Was pretty sketchy as I was the only one in the water for as far as the eye could see in either direction up and down the beach.

I found yesterday better than this morning actually. This morning had more punch but more wobble IMO.

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NickT Thursday, 29 Sep 2016 at 9:01pm

Swell has increased on the Tweed buoy, I'm taking the gamble and driving some highway miles!

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thermalben Thursday, 29 Sep 2016 at 9:05pm

Bloody windy here on the Tweed this evening too.

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thermalben Friday, 30 Sep 2016 at 8:40am

Wave heights came in close to expectations here, around 2ft at most Tweed beaches, maybe a few slightly bigger waves at the swell magnets, but winds are more NW than W'ly so southern ends and some exposed spots are a little bumpy. Lots of little lefts running down the beaches but it's not a patch on the NE swell a few Saturday's ago.




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mcsc Friday, 30 Sep 2016 at 9:43am

1ft here on Sunshine Coast this morn, few a smidge bigger. Occasional lefts that would run a bit, but average

Beautiful morning just the same. Blue skies, clear warm water, offshores :)

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thermalben Friday, 30 Sep 2016 at 10:40am

Easy 2-3ft sets at D'Bah.

Buoy data is down a lot from the midnight peak too, so one can only assume it was bigger overnight.

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Sprout Friday, 30 Sep 2016 at 11:44am

Total rubbish at 5am. Cleaned up by 8 and there were a few running lefts about.

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NickT Friday, 30 Sep 2016 at 2:05pm

I had a bit of fun of a tweed back beach, it was worth the drive for one of the waves I got. Funny that, you can be totally satisfied from one five second ride after a couple of hours in the water. Happy long weekend everyone. I should have come down to where you took that photo though Ben, looks like some long rides if you got the right one.