Large windy waves on the way

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

South East Queensland and Northern New South Wales Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Monday 16th February)

Best Days: Unsure at this stage: won't be any shortage of swell all week - getting very large Thurs/Fri - but winds are going to be an issue. Major improvement expected over the weekend (light wind/good weather/easing swell) but bank status will be unknown until we cast our eyes over it.

Recap: Strong but easing trade swell over the weekend with plenty of unreal waves across the regional points. 

This week (Feb 17 - 20)

We’re probably looking at the most active week of the summer swell season so far. Mainly due to the fact that we’ve just had a week of strong persistent trade swell, with more than a week or more to come, plus the added bonus of a big short range swell in the mix.

So, let’s take a look at the synoptic. A broad high pressure system over New Zealand, and a deepening tropical depression north of New Caledonia, tightening about an axis point just south of the French colony. An active monsoon trough stretches to the north-west through the Coral Sea, with a Tropical Low located in the Gulf of Carpentaria (likely to develop into a Tropical Cyclone over the next day or two). It’s the quintessential Queensland weather chart for the surfing population.

The trades north of New Zealand did weaken a little over the weekend but started to muscle up late yesterday and have continued through today. In fact the axis point mentioned above is slightly retrograding (i.e. tracking westward) as it intensifies. This is very important for swell production, because under the right kinds of circumstances these kinds of fetches can enhance wave heights about theoretical norms, often known as a ‘captured fetch’. 

It’s worth pointing out that the established trade flow (without this enhancement) is already very impressive and would ordinarily be worth an easy 4ft or more at most open beaches. But the retrograding fetch adds a little more size potential, as does a south-westward tracking Tropical Low that’s expected to slowly intensify within the Coral Sea monsoon trough on Tuesday and Wednesday. As it tracks south it will strength the easterly pressure gradient further.

The general consensus of most computer models is that all of these systems will converge on a point roughly in the vicinity of the SE Qld region (anywhere between Byron and Fraser Island) later Thursday or Friday. Although eventual surf size will be dependent on how strong core wind strengths develop close to the coast, it’s a pretty safe bet that it’s going to be very size by week’s end - probably upwards of 8-10ft at exposed locations, possibly more. 

However, local winds will be a problem, at least for a short while. Fresh SE winds mid-week (with smaller surf) will swing strong E’ly through Thursday, maybe even E/NE or NE (on Friday) as the Coral Sea Tropical Low (perhaps a cyclone by this time?) draws near the coast.

Fortunately, model guidance is reasonably confident that the conglomerate of these systems will then continue to track southwards over the weekend as a closed, cut-off system. This means two key factors: an early peak and then steady decline in surf size, and a clockwise swing in the wind direction to the southern, then western quadrant. However this probably won’t occur until Saturday so until then we'll have some quality issues to deal with.

So, the short story for this week will be residual trade swell on Tuesday (2-3ft most open beaches) ahead of a steady increase in overlapping swell trains from Wednesday onwards - with multiple swell trains in the water, the ocean state will be very confused. And with gusty winds swinging E’ly then E/NE later in the week you’ll certainly have your work cut out looking for somewhere sheltered, especially with such a large swell on hand. 

Let’s check back in on Wednesday - with some luck we may see an earlier-than-currently-modeled window of favourable winds to develop. And remember - these ‘favourable winds’ will happen further north to begin with, with the whole progression tracking south. 

This weekend (Feb 21 - 22)

Not much point regurgitating what I’ve gone through above. But to recap: starting off rather solid (possibly large, especially across southern regions), but mainly a rapidly easing combo of easterly swells with winds tending clockwise through Saturday, then going variable Sunday. 

Aside from the regular pointbreaks, it’s hard to know whether there will be options at open beaches as the swell fades because this event currently has ‘bank buster’ all over it. But there won't be any shortage of swell. Let’s re-evaluate on Wednesday. 

Next week (Feb 23 onwards)  

Aside from a continuing easing trend from the system discussed at length above, there’s nothing much of interest in the long term charts. Although, our far eastern swell window (east of NZ) is modelled to maintain some trade activity, which should keep the open beaches ticking along int he absence of any other meaningful swell next week. See you Wednesday.

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thermalben Monday, 16 Feb 2015 at 9:23pm

The irony of such a great synoptic chart, is that there simply aren't many options in SE Qld (or Northern NSW) when it's big and windy.

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Cylinders85 Monday, 16 Feb 2015 at 9:43pm

A lot going on geez!!! great reporting there is going to be a great window at some stage the question is when. A lot off banks were in great condition think they will take a hit

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Heffo78 Monday, 16 Feb 2015 at 10:54pm

Off to VIC tomorrow morning. I'm sure to miss out on sometching special up this way. I really dont mind as it seems huey is going to serve up at least 2ft and offshore Wind's while I'm down south revisiting get some local breaks I grew up surfing
as a gromy Will even have my restored Emerald Surfboard with me that was my first ever board. Will gladly miss whatever comes of this episode. Hope the banks dont bust and you all get ya fill!

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freeride76 Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 7:27am

We got to pray that thing moves quickly and doesn't screw with the inshore sand profiles too much- which are fucking sensational and so set up for autumn.
alas, I think it will blow big holes in the Point break sand bars.

This is no dream, it's a nightmare scenario.

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Craig Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 9:06am

Same down here Steve, banks in primo condition, if current GFS estimates come off, it'll all be blown to smithereens.

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donweather Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 11:02am

100% agree Steve. WSL/Quiky must be getting very nervous also!!!

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mick-free Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 9:09am

surely Kirra is primed for this one??

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CouplaFunOnes Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 9:21am

It will be interesting to see how the snapper to kirra stretch holds up for the quikky pro next week. Could be a disaster.

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udo Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 10:33am

Mega rain ,big tides large swell, what strength winds ? ...the contest structures are likely to get flogged.

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yocal Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 11:17am

yew!

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yocal Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 11:17am

yew!

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freeride76 Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 11:25am

yew'nt

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samgreen Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 1:47pm

Can anyone help me nail down that new NNE swell that's showing on the GC and Sunny Coast forecast for Saturday? It says about 2.4m NNE dropping quickly, but still, spots that are often flat or tiny even from huge East to South swells will be getting in.. This whole system is still pretty up in the air (so to speak) though right?

More than a couple of you probably know where I'm thinking.. bit of a mission from the Goldie but I'm trying to decide whether to hit this spot on Thursday, hoping that the size in the East swell will allow it to filter in, or Saturday, which is half the size but could be the perfect direction! Wind also looks a bit schizophrenic on Saturday though...

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donweather Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 8:41pm

Way too much variability in the movement and position of this low/TC forecasts to have any confidence whatsoever in swell, swell direction and local winds from Friday onwards IMO. EC now has this system washing out north of Fraser. GFS painting a very different picture.

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Craig Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 1:55pm

It's from this infeed of N/NE-NE winds into the deepening tropical low on Friday.

As you said there's still plenty of room for movement around this low, and any swell from this direction will be short-lived.

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thermalben Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 6:04pm

Interesting BOM forecasts for Thursday and Friday: 

Byron Coastal Waters Forecast: Point Danger to Wooli

Thursday 19 FebruarySwell: Easterly 1.5 to 2.5 metres, tending northeasterly 1 to 1.5 metres around midday.
Friday 20 February: Swell: East to northeasterly around 1 metre, increasing to 1 to 2 metres north of Cape Byron during the morning.

Gold Coast Waters Forecast: Cape Moreton to Point Danger

Thursday 19 February: Swell: Easterly 2 to 2.5 metres.
Friday 20 February: Swell: Easterly 2 to 2.5 metres.

Looks like the swell will stop at the border later Thursday and into Friday. And, the current forecast suggests it'll be 1m all day "south of Cape Byron".

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thermalben Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 6:05pm

Jeez. Even the Sydney Coastal Waters Forecast has a bigger swell than the Byron Coast on Friday ("Easterly 1.5 metres, increasing to 2 metres during the morning.").

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wellymon Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 7:43pm

Hopefully this thing slips by quick and stalls in the Tassie from 23rd onwards for 3-4 days with a nice SE lined up swell, with lovely banks everywhere....?
One model is suggesting this!

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mick-free Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 9:14pm

Welly you haven't been wrong since I've known you

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wellymon Tuesday, 17 Feb 2015 at 11:41pm

Haha, plenty of times Mick, plenty.
Just hoping, fingers crossed, get back on land around then;)

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thermalben Wednesday, 18 Feb 2015 at 9:41am

Latest BOM advice going for a Cat 1 crossing east of Rockhampton in the early hours of Friday morning.

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donweather Wednesday, 18 Feb 2015 at 10:32am

Yes, a shit scenario for EVERYONE if that track maps comes off!!! The axis of the low is on the wrong fecking side of us!!!

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freeride76 Wednesday, 18 Feb 2015 at 11:03am

thats a worse case scenario.

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donweather Wednesday, 18 Feb 2015 at 11:32am

And GFS is the glass half full scenario.

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yocal Wednesday, 18 Feb 2015 at 1:36pm

i couldn't give two hoots as long as i find a sesh with a few big barrels somewhere which is likely if the winds play along...

didn't expect it to be much better than this at the start of the week, happy with some size and the chance of offshores for a period

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evosurfer Wednesday, 18 Feb 2015 at 1:54pm

Hope this swell travels all the way down to Cronulla and blows the living daylights out of our banks as the banks here are the worse in living memory. Also very good for the point.

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Kerwick Wednesday, 18 Feb 2015 at 1:57pm

Can someone please explain why Swell net says Sat 4ft head height for Saturday. Seabreeze website says 3 to 3.5m swell Saturday well above Swell net. Coastal watch says 6.5ft plus and BOM says 3m plus. Just trying to figure out now which website is good and which is crap now.

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Craig Wednesday, 18 Feb 2015 at 2:18pm

This is because seabreeze/windguru/buoyweather etc combine all the swells from all directions giving an incorrect gauge on the actual size out there.

Here's our forecast and you can see that on Saturday morning there is an easing E'ly trade-swell from 1.7m @ 10s which would probably still be in the 3-5ft/4-5ft range.

Also though there's a N/NE windswell to 2.8m @ 8.6s which would also generate 4-5ft waves out of the N/NE by itself.

So our forecast has predicted open beaches to be 3-4ft, with surf more near 4ft open to the north east. Personally we're probably looking at easing 4-5ft surf.

Now seabreeze etc would be combining the 1.7m and 2.8m swell to your 3-3.5m and taking the 10s period, overforecasting the swell.

Hope this make sense.

** Also expect the figues to continue to move around until we're right near the event due to the tricky nature in forecasting the strength and positioning of this tropical storm.

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freeride76 Wednesday, 18 Feb 2015 at 8:14pm

That seems almost a ridiculous undercall Craig, as as time you wrote it.

Surely you could see it would be far, far bigger than that.

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Craig Wednesday, 18 Feb 2015 at 8:45pm

Yeah, probably skipped over it a little too quickly, but likely looking at easing surf from the 6ft range Saturday morning on the Goldy. Depends on how well that infeed of NE winds goes as the trade-swell will likely be easing from 4-6ft.

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50young Wednesday, 18 Feb 2015 at 2:09pm

I always bank on the Swellnet Forecast IMHO

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Blowin Wednesday, 18 Feb 2015 at 8:19pm

So how big is it ? How big is it going to get ? Anyone keen to put their cards on the table ?

Sheepy would be all over it .....for better or worse.