Heavy Water Thoughts

Disconnected thoughts on the state of slab surfing

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By Stu Nettle (stunet)
Photo: Max McGuigan by Tim Bonython

Heavy Water Thoughts

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Swellnet Dispatch

Back in July, Australia's East Coast was hit by a long period south swell. It wasn’t an exceptional winter for waves, but the season was punctuated by a couple of belters and this swell was one of them. For days the swell hovered in the ten-to-fifteen feet mark, but the onshore winds drove everyone into protected corners.

On the fourth day of the swell the wind turned offshore, and, putting old habits aside, I drove past the local and paddled out at a reefbreak thirty minutes further south. To call it one of the better waves in the region is to undersell it as it’s one of the better waves in the country, and it’s also one of the heaviest.

It’d been a long time since I surfed the wave and in the intervening years the place had changed a lot. Obviously the wave itself was the same, it broke with the same shocking fury over the same shallow rock platform, but the difference was the crowd.

Yeah, the numbers had swelled, that’s hardly surprising, they’ve done so everywhere, but the truly startling thing was just how many surfers were willing to step up and have a go. Not just the old TOADS either - you know, Take Off And Die Syndrome - the courage on display was equalled by a level of skill that left little room for those hesitating on the fringes.

That gave me a lot of time to watch and think.

In Swellnet’s coverage of pro surfing it’s hard to ignore Australia’s dwindling success compared to the period 1976 to 2010. During those 35 years, Aussie men - the same comparison doesn’t apply to the women - traditionally made up around half the top tier tour. In 1980 Australian surfers comprised 10 of the Top 16, when the tour split in 1993 it was 23 of the Top 44, and in 2010 we had 21 of the Top 44.

This year, Australia had just 6 surfers in the Top 34. There’s been many reasons forwarded to explain our lack of competitive success: our juniors aren’t as hungry, they’re too spoiled, we’ve turned to lifestylers on mid-lengths. I can’t explain the change and I don’t think anyone can, however if our results are dipping in contests, it’s not reflected in performance levels at slabs.

You don’t need to paddle out to a slab to understand this. Just tune into any of the recent Deadmans videos, or any from The Right, or perhaps Tim Bonython’s YouTube channel, and you’ll see surfers operating at the frontiers of human performance, and not just a special few but lots of them. The talent pool runs deep.

What used to be lonely waves visited by hard-charging travellers soon became hothouses for local talent. Shipsterns Bluff is a classic case: Once a plaything for East Coast visitors it became a testing ground for a generation of wild Tasmanians, who, by virtue of proximity and regularity, began surfing it better than anyone. Mikey Brennan, over the steps and into the void (Lance Morgan)

When it comes to slab surfing, Australia has a comparative advantage. Owing to favourable geology, no other country comes close to the number of top heavy waves that break on our shores. It goes without saying that slabs are notoriously hard to ride, so regular access has created a talent pool that’s also unlike any other country.

Wherever the geology lends itself to slabs, so too do local surfers lean towards that style of surfing. Western Australia is a classic example. With numerous limestone slabs across the Capes region, and even more across the southern granite belt, WA may have the per capita record for heavy water surfers. If we’re making comparisons, the same can’t be said of their capacity to produce contest surfers. Of the men, only Taj Burrow, Jack Robinson, and perhaps Jacob Willcox, have left any sort of impression in that regard. What that also means is that there’s little sponsorship money flowing around in the west. If you wanna chase waves you’d better do it off your own bat.

Dave Bowden is an archetypal WA surfer. A classic underground charger. When I call him he’s on site and takes a few minutes off to chat with me. Dave can do that as he answers to no-one. “I work for myself and run my own team, “ says Dave, going on to explain the benefits extend beyond taking time out to speak on the phone. “If there’s a swell at The Right or Cows we just down tools and go for it. No more work that day.”

Five years ago, I interviewed a bunch of professional big wave surfers about The Right with at least two of them, both in their physical peak, wondering if it was even worth it, such is the intensity of a wave many consider the world’s heaviest slab. If there’s any such trepidation from Dave, he doesn’t show it as he casually describes how he worked his way up from the reefs around Margaret River to arrive at The Right.

Like many other Western Australian surfers, Dave’s never surfed a heat in his life but always gravitated towards heavier waves. Yet while most reach a limit - a point beyond which they’re not comfortable passing - Dave and his brother Ben just kept on going till they were out at The Right alongside notorious hard-charging locals like Chris Ross, Brad Norris, and Chris Shanahan. He reckons he’s been surfing it for twelve years now.

There can be no doubt that a big day at The Right includes surfing that, by any measure, is world class: the reaction times needed, the mental calmness, the sheer courage on display. Yet despite my questioning, Dave won’t be drawn when I suggest that skillset puts him, and all of the surfers at The Right, into a special class of surfer.

“Maybe,” is Dave’s hesitant and not-at-all convincing answer. He’s much more comfortable when I steer the conversation towards the younger crew. All the aforementioned surfers were in their twenties when The Right was discovered so despite being local, they came to it late. “Ollie Henry has been getting some great ones,” explains Dave. “Ned Hart too. There’s a few new faces turning up and getting the odd sick one.”

“In the next few years,” says Dave, indicating the young WA crew who are gathering experience from a young age, “we’re going to see some incredible surfing out there.”

The magic hour aesthetics are a distraction from the real knockout punch in this shot: Dave Bowden going the double arm drag at the base of an absurdly proportioned wave (Ren McGann)

“I think a lot of surfers really benefit from surfing The Right,” says Ben Rufus, yet he’s not necessarily talking about their physical health. Ben lives locally, shapes many of the boards ridden at The Right, so he knows a lot of the crew. I’d rung Ben and asked some other questions about slab surfing but this answer fascinated me.

“When you take off on a wave at The Right, you can’t be thinking about anything else. So it silences your mind,” explains Ben, “It’s a bit of a generalisation, but I think a lot of surfers really benefit from that.”

An old quote comes to mind. “Weight training is zen for violent men,” wrote Gregory David Roberts, the author of Shantaram, so, following a similar line of thinking, perhaps slab surfing is zen for thrillseekers?

That surfers experience a quieting of the mind isn't such a radical thought. Mindfulness, after all, has reached the mainstream. It’s understood how the burdens of the world, the voices and the impulses, drop away after directing your focus towards one vital goal - in this instance, making it to the channel intact.

Nor is it a short term thing. “Truth be told,” says Ben in his soft and measured voice, “we hardly ever surf The Right - I think we had three swells this year - but so much energy and focus goes into it.”

Like I said, fascinating stuff, but I’m neither qualified nor knowledgeable enough to place it all in context. That said, I'd say it's no coincidence Australia’s greatest big wave surfer, also from WA, just named his newborn son Zen.

Local shaper and surfer Ben Rufus piloting self-shaped equipment under heavy skies (Andrew Semark)

“They’ve got an itch and they have to scratch it,” is how photographer and bodyboarder Ray Collins explains the slab surfers’ desire to huck themselves over the edge. He knows because he’s one of them.

The desire, of course, has to outweigh the self-preservation instinct, but when it does the result is addictive. “It’s addictive to scratch down a watery cliff and have more water over you than under you,” says Ray in his own inimitable manner. “It’s not always healthy, but it’s way healthier than drugs or alcohol.”

Perhaps it’s the difference between east coast slabs to their heavier west coast counterparts, I’m not really sure, but when I ask Ray about the skills required to surf slabs well he tends more towards the mental than the physical. “When it comes to slabs,” says Ray, “a lot of very ordinary surfers have been incredibly coned. And that’s just because they were willing to have a go.”

Incredibly coned, though there's no shortage of talent here. Slab surfing was never a side hustle for Kipp Caddy, it's been his focus since he was barely a teenager, as documented in his recent movie 'Desensitised' (Cameron Staunton)

“When I think about it, the best surfer in the world could, if they wanted to, also be the best slab surfer in the world,” says Justen ‘Jughead’ Allport, who’s spent years riding slabs and also thinking about them.

“At the moment, it’s just the mindset that stops them.”

When he was growing up on the NSW Central Coast, the word ‘slab’ hadn’t yet entered the vernacular yet he’d ride the local ledges and found they were a great proxy for legitimately big waves. “We don’t get big waves that often, so I found I could ride a six-foot slab and get the adrenaline hit, and it filled the gap of not being able to get big waves very often.”

In time, chasing slabs took precedence and Jug spearheaded the hunt for many now-famous waves, yet he’s always had a mind for marrying performance with danger. “When I was twenty, I used to love watching surfers like Adam Replogle, Flea, Peter Mel, Skin Dog…all those Santa Cruz guys doing aerials,” explains Jug. “And it blew me away when I saw they were also surfing twenty foot Mavericks. Like, ‘how are these guys doing that?’”

“A few surfers followed, Shane Dorian could surf everything, Slater too, John John, Josh Kerr.” Yet to a large degree specialisation rules. Choose contests, or choose slab chasing.

For many young Australian surfers, they’ve chosen the latter. “In 2018 I was in Nias for a huge swell,” says Jug. ”There were some well-known Hawaiians there, yet what blew my mind was how many underground Australian guys were sitting as deep as anyone, just sending it on the thickest of walls.”

“All day I was like, "Who's that? Who’s that?" And it’d be some unknown Australian - unknown to me and probably unknown to anyone outside of where they live - and there were just so many of them."

"It was a proud moment watching other Aussies just going hard.”

Between the acute angle and water drawing up the face, just holding a line at Cape Solander can be a triumph. Doing it backside requires a peculiar mix of courage, reflex, body integration, and sheer bloodymindedness. Max McGuigan putting it all on display (Tim Bonython)

So is this where Australia’s lost CT surfers have gone? They’ve gone and got trades and are working flexible jobs, dropping tools when the swells hit. If so, that makes Max McGuigan's path the new normal.

"It doesn't matter who's in the water [at Cape Solander] Max is the best out there," says videographer Tim Bonython. Yet being a slab standout wasnt his initial goal.

"I was doing all the comps," says Max about his grommethood, "having some success...and that was my dream, to be a pro surfer: to be paid to travel the world and surf."

"At some point I came to terms with the fact I wasn't going to be the best," continues Max, "and companies just weren't throwing money around like they used to. As I faded away from comps they [sponsors] just werent seeing the value."

While chasing the comp circuit, Max had the sense to also put himself through a trade - he's a carpenter - and he was fortunate enough to have an understanding boss who'd allow him time off to surf in contests. Rather than seeking sponsor backing, Max now works for himself and takes time off to chase waves when he can. 

"I'm not sure what the future holds," says Max when I ask him to look in the crystal ball, "there's a bunch of kids who it seems are going to make the tour, like Dane Henry, Lennix Smith, they've had good career input, and they also surf heavy waves really well. There's also young guys like Ned Hart, Noah Hassett, and Joel Barry, who surf big waves well but also rip in anything."

"Right now, those guys are making all the right moves."
 

Hugh Vaughan casual entry at a wave that's claimed many scalps (Tim Bonython)

"I went away with Hughie Vaughan just last week," says Jughead of the 18-year old Central Coaster, and younger brother to Joel Vaughan. "Joel was maybe going to come away but had to get ready for Portugal [the Ericeira Pro, a Challenger Series event].

In the Vaughan brothers, Jughead can see the diverging paths - choose contests or choose slabs - and he's not sure which way Hughie will go.

"There's no doubt about it," Jug says adamantly, "the kid can do it all - he recently got a third in a QS [at Surfest Newcastle] - and he's watching his brother Joel do his third year on the Challenger Series. It's a huge financial outlay every single year to go and chase waves that are very rarely good."

The pay off is far from assured. Just ask Jacob Willcox who put in eight full years on the QS/CS grind, only to be bumped off the CT in less than six months. Then there are all the surfers who just never even make the tour.

"If you're a kid and you have some talent, maybe you're getting paid by sponsors, do you want to hustle on the QS and CS..?" Jug leaves the question hanging a while. "Keep in mind there's only ten spots for the men, five for the women, and a lot of those are requalifiers."

In Jug's mind, it's clear why so many young kids are choosing slabs - either on their sponsor's coin or their own backing. "Who wouldn't want to go and surf quality heavy waves? Compared to spending your money on chasing the QS or the Challenger Series with nothing to show at the end."

Who knows which path someone like Hughie Vaughan will take, but he no doubt received solid fireside advice from Uncle Jug during their recent mission.

My session wasn't quite waveless but it wasn't far off. I really should've stayed at the local. The banter between sets may have been friendly but the spirit of generosity gave way when the sets came through. It was the sort of competitive lineup I once relished but it's no place for old men. The thought stings a bit.

Yet it also comes with a relief that Aussie surfing is renewing itself. We're not devolving into lifestyle surfers, riding $1,500 mid-lengths at Creso. There's a new vanguard, they're not as visible due to not being on the WSL program, but they're young, skilful, and insanely courageous.

// STU NETTLE

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Island Bay Monday, 16 Sep 2024 at 6:25pm

Very interesting article with lots of good points. I would say, though, that Aussies have always been the ones to give it a proper go - very possibly, as you mentioned, because of the large number of heavy waves/slabs.

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dewhurst Monday, 16 Sep 2024 at 6:59pm

Nate might've come up with the name but if the Slab world tour really was a thing, Australians would win hands down. The world champ probably some plumber from Ulladulla who said the job would be done two weeks ago.

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Nuttynatty99 Monday, 16 Sep 2024 at 7:16pm

Funny cause it’s true

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Sheep go to heaven Monday, 16 Sep 2024 at 7:44pm

Our plumber won't turn up and he doesn't even surf ....

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basesix Monday, 16 Sep 2024 at 7:39pm

is there a phrase that goes something like 'average journalism cherry picks their subject and displays a plausible thesis, great journalism presents the most interesting aspects of their subject and displays an enquiring and inquiring mind'?

swellnet kills it, so much of the latter, with stu nettle, steve shearer and craig brokensha (and guest writers)! phenomenological-tastic.

(loved the mirror-image bookend photos, haha)

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stunet Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 7:58am

"(loved the mirror-image bookend photos, haha)"

Intro, outro.

Glad you noticed it.

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basesix Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 10:38am

nice. the article feels cupped caringly in a big blue wobbly half-pipe.

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freeride76 Monday, 16 Sep 2024 at 7:57pm

So true Stu.

Local bloke here I hadn't seen in the water for a while and he said he'd been out injured.

He'd busted up ribs hitting the bottom packing a 20 footer at Mullaghmore.
There's a lot of unknowns packing some serious caves.

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lostdoggy Monday, 16 Sep 2024 at 7:59pm

The friendly ghost?

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freeride76 Monday, 16 Sep 2024 at 8:03pm

aye.

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lostdoggy Monday, 16 Sep 2024 at 8:27pm

I saw a photo of that.
He charges harder every year.

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southernraw Monday, 16 Sep 2024 at 9:02pm

Really epic read Stu.

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goofyfoot Monday, 16 Sep 2024 at 9:08pm

That photo of the arm drag stall at the right is incredible.

Also, “ I'd say it's no coincidence Australia’s greatest big wave surfer, also from WA, just named his newborn son Zen.”
Laurie Towner may like a word about that Stu

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Solitude Monday, 16 Sep 2024 at 9:53pm

As would Russell Bierke, Kip Caddy, Soli Bailey, etc, etc

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Brian from Brissy Monday, 16 Sep 2024 at 10:14pm

RCJ ring a bell!!!

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Lougher Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 5:53pm

No one comes close to Russ

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bbbird Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 7:06pm

Drumroll..... exceptional

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bbbird Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 7:57pm

Youthful times, just gotta go.
Sometimes, you may just wanto flow.


Reliable sponsor and/or steady job; experience required.
"There is so much more to enjoy..."

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Solitude Monday, 16 Sep 2024 at 10:02pm

Thought provoking article. Cheers Stu.

I think the WA thing gets overplayed at times. Bit like Hawaiians. The difficulty,
variety and quality of east coast slabs and their surfers are right up there.

Never having had the chance to tow, my opinion on the matter can be taken with a grain of salt. That said, paddling slabs or big waves to me is the pinnacle.

Jake Patterson might have a thing or two to say about West Aussies world tour success?

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southernraw Monday, 16 Sep 2024 at 10:30pm

WA overplayed?

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basesix Monday, 16 Sep 2024 at 10:32pm

haha, did you just pull your tshirt off, SR?

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southernraw Monday, 16 Sep 2024 at 10:46pm

haha i reckon!

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Solitude Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 6:54am

Maybe wrong choice of words, I’m just alluding to the idea they have a less of a mortgage on this kind of surfing today.

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Lanky Dean Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 12:21am

@ solitude
Nothing like getting a great slab wave then jumping back on the ski to reset.

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stunet Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 7:57am

"Jake Patterson might have a thing or two to say about West Aussies world tour success?"

Shit eh. Might have to fix that fuck up.

Cheers...

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MidWestMonger Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 3:55pm

Dave Mac was 2nd in the ratings for a while too

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hamishbro Monday, 16 Sep 2024 at 10:25pm

Seems more authentic somehow.
Maybe traditional Pro surfing has had its in nadir in Australia.
After all Isn’t surfing meant to be a kind of rebellious act.
It’s was fine when rabbit and co were bustin down the door and chasing a new frontier.
But now it’s been done and got a bit stale.
Surfing has always had a DIY lone wolf dimension to it.
And slabs are the final frontier.

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57 Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 1:42am

^^^^^perfect lone wolf

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Andrew P Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 7:46am

Looks like I’m off to creso with my midlength.
I know how you feel Stu. I put many years into a 20m piece of rockshelf (not a slab) back when Kelly had hair. A few years later and I couldn’t buy a wave there! There’s something humbling about that, and (unlike Kelly) realising that life has moved on and letting go is healthier than clinging on to past successes.

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stunet Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 8:21am

It's funny looking back at things. When I was in Cronulla, my generation of surfers included Terepai Richmond, Rusty Moran, Ox and Speg McKinley, Corey and Boogs VDP, Jon Frank, Sparky, Crispy, Brad Hampson, Branchy, and legions of seriously hard-charging surfers. I felt like a fringe-player, an observer to all they did, but I was a stayer, kept at it for years and years.

I recall conversations with Ox around the turn of the century when we were late-twenties, and there was no notable generation behind us. It meant there was a lot of space in the lineups. That was a great time in my surfing life.

Where I live now it's very different. There are just so many good surfers also willing to push it in heavy waves. Every year group, every generation, and they surf heavy waves extremely well. If there are good young performance surfers who don't also mix it at the local ledges I can't think of their names right now.

This means that, not only are the ledges well populated, but they're filled with competitive young kids busting down their own doors. It's awesome to see...shit, it's what inspired the above article, but it also means that 7'6" 2+1 looks more and more appealing.

Wonder what Creso will be like this weekend..?

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Andrew P Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 9:06am

Insta-packed no doubt. Last time i surfed it it was crowded at the takeoff and Robbie Page was out there calling people into waves with a huge smile. I strayed down the line and caught a couple with a mellow crowd and walked across the creek smiling and satiated; stoked at the lifestyle choice i didn't have much say in choosing.

Thanks for your aggregation of perspectives Stu. Certainly not as disconnected as you say.

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memlasurf Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 11:42am

"It was the sort of competitive lineup I once relished but it's no place for old men. The thought stings a bit." Yep ego has to take a back seat to age that is for sure and can almost make me want to give it all up however a couple of good waves and the feeling comes back. There is a limestone slab out the back where I live very fickle but heavy, fast and hollow. It is interesting to see the type of board used to paddle it: 6'6", wide nose half and pulled in tail, 40 litres and no beak, but a gunny nose (unlike a desert storm). They sit out there for hours and might only get 2 waves ton of skill and giant knackers.

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dawnperiscope Friday, 20 Sep 2024 at 4:19pm

Love the nod to Terepai in this and the other thread, he was always my favourite to watch when I was scratching over the shoulder. Charging with style indeed.. never seemed rushed and always in the spot.

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Juliang Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 11:44am

Off to Crescent with your mid length?
Oh no that means you’re devolving ,
according to someone’s theory of evolution!
Off to Crescent with your 9.6 might be
a better option.

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dandandan Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 8:06am

I reckon, too, there's an underrated element of just how expensive it is to become a professional competitive surfer, and you are still left with the hassle of trying to pick up sponsorships to make it work anyway. For a kid like Jack Robinson, getting picked up as a literal child and having solid sponsorships before becoming a teenager, that's probably not an issue. Same goes if you are from a wealthy family - there's plenty of stories of kids that have been doing Indo trips since they were 5, and shipping the whole family around to compete. But there's surfers grinding on the QS and then going home to work retail or laboring, and there's no guarantee it will pay off either in a competitive sense or with sponsorships (see: LOB and Billabong). Meanwhile you can look to the RAGE crew and plenty of others carving out some sense of a career and income from surfing without the hassle of contests. I imagine taking that path is as difficult as starting your own business, and so what you end up with is a shitload of very talented surfers working ordinary jobs.

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juegasiempre Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 9:09am

I didn't get over to WA on my oz travels but the best surfers I ran into, like the highest average surfing ability of the average surfers.... South coast, NSW. Make of that what you will.

As for not translating to pros, as alluded to, it's a different mindset. Tom Carroll can surf the biggest, craziest waves in the world but when he was training to be world champ, he would surf all day in Sydney, no matter the wave quality, day after day. I'd say the average east coast ripper is too spoilt and couldn't be fucked grinding in shitty waves for a future that doesn't even pay and may not exist. YouTube? Damn, Connor Kennedy has all time footage a few thousand followers, not enough to build a life on the north shore or even feed yourself. Better to get a flexible job and charge good waves, if that's what you want to do.

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MacLaren Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 10:12am

How do you people keep doing this? It cannot last, and I fear greatly when the day comes and I realize this too, is no longer...

But for now...

The think pieces are almost too much to deal with. Nothing gets missed. Not by you staff writers, and not by all of the keenly insightful people who stop and take the time to enter the sorts of comments that would put to shame the best paid-for professional output of...

Every other thing, bar none, that purports to convey surfing by means linguistic and photographic.

I see aged graybeards, in a dim future, sharing stories of this place, this people, this time, and how amazing it all was, and how easily and fluidly it all fell together as if by accident, but as well-aimed as anything could ever be, and how might a thing like that happen by accident? And of course it cannot.

I'm sitting here very very far away scratching my seppo head with worry and wonder, thinking, "They're the only ones. What are we going to do when the world spins on by them and we find ourselves without?"

It is very bittersweet. It's here right now. Must I borrow trouble from the future?

I cannot.

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Mindora Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 10:29am

I agree with this.....you guys are knocking it out of the park at the moment.

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memlasurf Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 11:48am

Ahhh that is why you misspelled grey! You are a USAdian good comment just the same.

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Lanky Dean Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 1:32pm

Hive mind
Connected ?
Welcome !

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Mindora Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 10:27am

That quote by Gregory David Robert is great (as is the surfing adaption of it). I wonder what happened to the movie. I think Johnny Depp was involved??

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Solitude Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 11:00am

Yeah it was talked about for ages wasn't it? Was my favourite book of all time. I so keenly awaited the sequel: 'The Mountain Shadow' - my, my what a disappointment. I couldn't remember that quote, glad Stu did, is very epic.

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stunet Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 11:28am

Nah, the quote wasn't from the book. I read it in a weekend lift-out profile about what happened after he went to prison.

One of those quotes that sticks.

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NDC Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 11:08am

I've been to a degree lamenting the skinnyness of the ranks of younger surfers in the beach carpark.
(only briefly... until I get into the lineup and start seeking out my share of waves - haha).
So often I look about and it's mostly old guys like me +/- 50 yoa

Now I know why... all the young'uns are charging some terrifying slab

Thx to all the legit chargers who give us mortals something to marvel at

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Juliang Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 11:34am

I like surfing too much to take on too many death slabs!

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Lanky Dean Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 1:45pm

Well I sat down and watched two surf films the other weekend
One was the westsiders
The other was the Kerby Courtney brown film.
Dearer me I think they are all gosh darn crazy.
Don't think you'd want to try tow surfing with the brown's.
# hectic .
Pro surfing is on a very weird course yet surfing itself is very healthy.
I'd like to say I have no more taste for big waves
Yet at 45 I paddled out at big haliewa
Logs this year and had lots of fun ?
I'm not to sure how people just walk away from surfing .... I get it, yet at the same time I'm checking the charts for the next swell.
# hooked.

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backyard Wednesday, 18 Sep 2024 at 10:48am

Similar here. In my fifth decade of my addiction. Two years ago I had double hernia surgery. My response was to make a new model and step up which I named the Old Mate - basically more volume and a bit more up front. This year I've been out of the water five months now with a fucked rotator cuff. Still looking at the forecast and cameras everyday. Am I thinking about conceding and giving up? FUCK NO. And that means shortboards too.

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Lanky Dean Wednesday, 18 Sep 2024 at 3:27pm

You made a gentle man's shortboard backyard ! Been. Rocking one for the last decade update in every few years
Lately I've been spending lots of time on eps boards. Stringerless.
Paddle great feel.great .
Not to sure why I just can't get off them. Hope you fix your shoulder.
Trow on a pair of swim fins and go for a body bash .
Even if I don't surf I try to get in the water most days

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ThatGuyJay Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 3:34pm

A great proof point is Koa Rothman's Deadmans performance compared with the swathes of locals who rule the place.

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MrBungle Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 3:41pm

It's why their have been so many mental bodyboarders come out of Australia. The slabs are perfect for it.

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pigdog Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 7:28pm

an epic slab surfing session (for arm chair critics like myself) is like a #1 music hit at the moment. every moment plasterd on internet with in 72hrs. (not a bad thing) and forgotten and not in the history books due to over exposure an instant access. life in the fast lane for us all i guess.

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bbbird Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 9:07pm

Music & surfing can be a matter of faith; being in harmony ....against odds & doubts; betting on your intuition, talent & experience
"fall mountains, just dont fall on me..."

slab surfing soundtrack?

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bbbird Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 10:02pm

Crowdy Head 2-4m S @15 seconds atm... dust off the shortboard, minigun, midlength or mal.
https://mhl.nsw.gov.au/Station-CRHDOW

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Mal Caithness1 Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 10:09pm

Rossi, Kirbs, Ant-Man, Camel, Bammer's, Egg, Kip, Marty P, RCJ, Shanno, Rufus, Jack Mac. Rest are not even close. The Lord's of Valhalla? ...

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Mal Caithness1 Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 10:22pm

P.S. NATE RULES !

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bbbird Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 10:28pm

Lord's of Valhalla in Sydney 1972

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dbut Tuesday, 17 Sep 2024 at 11:33pm

Part of the conundrum ought to be that fuelled no trophy or bit of fame that compares to the feeling of surfing perfect waves with just your crew. Plus, knifing into the heaviest slab in front of the same guys you looked up to as a kid? That’s something you can’t get on the world tour. Why would you feel the need to grovel it out battling with losses to prove to the rest of the middle class seppos and Brazoss when you are already a hometown hero, unless you you came from a rubbish surf community with subpar waves think the modern day Torquay, where a chance at making the next stage up means you can actually go chase some equally crowded and ego fuelled lineups with warm waves that barrel.

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Lanky Dean Wednesday, 18 Sep 2024 at 12:45am

Feel there has always kinda been a few sects of surfing .
Pro surfing (wos) just isn't relatable to most younger surf enthusiasts.
Feel the youth of today are far more diverse than one activity defining them .

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loungelizard Wednesday, 18 Sep 2024 at 11:05am

safer than drugs and alcohol? show me a slab surfer into his 5th decade who's not severely damaged and I may concede the point..

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memlasurf Wednesday, 18 Sep 2024 at 2:42pm

Ha, ha bit too close to reality - even worse big wave charger in his 6th decade a victim of the 70's!

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Lanky Dean Wednesday, 18 Sep 2024 at 3:25pm

@ loungelizard
Show me a sober pro surfer .
Slab surfing will definitely shorten ones surfing longevity.

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bbbird Wednesday, 18 Sep 2024 at 11:36pm

No max surfing for old men.. then pass on the vibe and enjoy the next gen living the dream.
eg. Eddy has happened 10 times in 38 years

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Vince Neil Thursday, 19 Sep 2024 at 4:35pm

jugasiempre - WA surfers i have come across in Indo have been super impressive. Unassuming.

But yep, kook ratio down south lower than other places.

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velocityjohnno Thursday, 19 Sep 2024 at 5:08pm

The humble tone, superb there Stu. Elegiac verse. I can feel it too. It's their turn now.

We turn to different things, for some it's story, it's words. For the old shapers I knew growing up, it was the factory and the continued creativeness which went on long after the body said to stop.

Don't think I really surfed slabs much. And I don't mind this. Looking down into, and going, into Rabbits, or Jacques, or North Point was enough for me.

For the young crew, go for it while you are invincible!

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Solitude Friday, 20 Sep 2024 at 2:06pm

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Next time you get pitched or pull back on the limits of your ability, don’t feel bad, even the best find it difficult. Poor bloke, really hard on himself.

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basesix Friday, 20 Sep 2024 at 2:31pm

good on him for putting this out and framing it like he did.

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Solitude Friday, 20 Sep 2024 at 3:20pm

Agreed, considering how dejected he was, I think it’s great he posted. Just shows it as it is.
How’s him nearly getting decapitated by the tow rope a couple of times!

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.cylinders Saturday, 21 Sep 2024 at 12:40pm

He did make a pretty serious misstep however in not acknowledging Jake Osman's efforts out there. If you're gonna claim a first do the research and acknowledge the people who gave it a go beforehand.

Speaking of which, anyone know the hawaiian bodysurfer who went to NW WA with Cheyne Horan back in the day?

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Solitude Saturday, 21 Sep 2024 at 2:58pm

Has a surfer successfully paddled into it?

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goofyfoot Saturday, 21 Sep 2024 at 5:24pm

Has Jake Osman paddled the right?

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.cylinders Monday, 23 Sep 2024 at 12:24am

ahh i think i got my wires crossed hahaha, how ironic. I thought he had but now I think I was mistaken.