Varuna Will Grow Your Quiver

Has Varuna cracked the sustainable surfboard nut?

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By Steve Shearer (freeride76)

Varuna Will Grow Your Quiver

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Swellnet Dispatch

How often, if ever, do you consider your impact on the environment?

No, me neither...well, not much anyway, and not often.

I know it's one of the most shop-worn tropes out there: how surfers are connected to nature, stewards of the environment blah, blah, blah, but mostly we go through life fairly oblivious to the impact of our toys and lifestyle. Derek Hynd laid it out in blunt terms in a recent article for The Surfer's Journal: “Ecologically, we're all in this, a clusterfuck of toxic guilt. No matter the level, age, or method, the surfer is up there with the worst relative global individual footprint."

Guilty as charged. I try to keep my footprint light, my lifestyle simple. I'm no Kelly Slater that's for sure; not building energy-guzzling, water-hungry wavepools in the Arabian desert and flying all over the planet on a whim. But still, every so often I look at my petro-chem water toys, last minute trips to Indo, and feel like I would like to do better for Old Mother Earth and her biosphere.

Thus my interest was very much piqued when I started seeing the Varuna wooden boards around; a few in the water, and then a bunch of clips on YouTube outlining the vision and the business model.

The gist of the venture are chambered boards made from balsa grown as a regenerative tree on degraded land in Indonesia, then crafted by Indonesian builders using designs licensed from noted shapers. Joel Fitzgerald, Chilli, Maurice Cole, Stuart D'Arcy, Renaud Cardinal, Jared Mell, and Beau Young are already signed up with more to come.

Chambered balsa is a major league blast from the past. A board-building method developed decades ago and kept alive by a few hardcore afficionados working out of backyard wood-shops. The process is elaborate and slow. Varuna's point of difference, however, is that they're taking the concept of chambered balsa and applying it to production models. In this, it's a first.

Balsa was chosen because it's light, it grows incredibly quickly, it's not native to Indonesia so it can be harvested as a weed, plus it can be used as a primary regenerative tree as it offers abundant shade. Once a stand is harvested, Varuna then selects the next piece of degraded land again using balsa trees as a harvestable cover crop, the area later planted out with fruit trees and natives once the balsa is removed.

Raw balsa stockpiled in Varuna's Balinese warehouse plus the finished product. Note: This is an earlier generation Varuna with the air vent on the forward section of the deck. Later models now have the vent - which releases hot air before it expands and stresses the internal joints - in the legrope plug. A simple and elegant solution.

The solution to a more sustainable surfboard - which is a primary aim for Varuna surfboards - cannot come from petro-chemicals. To fulfil that goal, in whole or in part, the primary material needs to be natural and regenerative. Currently, only wood can fulfil that function.

The carbon cycle is amazing and a simple primer is called for. The story goes like this. Without human interference, the carbon in fossil fuels would leak slowly into the atmosphere through volcanic activity over millions of years in the slow carbon cycle. By burning coal, oil, and natural gas, we accelerate the process, releasing vast amounts of carbon - carbon that took millions of years to accumulate - into the atmosphere every year. By doing so, we move the carbon from the slow cycle to the fast cycle. In 2009, humans released about 36.8 billion tons of carbon into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuel.

Growing plants removes carbon from the atmosphere, and via photosynthesis incorporates it into biomass. This is the foundation of the fast carbon cycle. For the purposes of this article, the incorporation of carbon from the atmosphere into plant structures (wood) is the basis of the sustainability claim for wooden surfboards. Basically, as long as the board isn't burnt or degraded by micro-organisms, it's a net environmental gain as far as helping the atmosphere with sequestering excess carbon dioxide.

An even easier equation to understand is sunlight and carbon dioxide are the raw materials of a wooden board, while fossil fuels are the basis of every other surfboard.

Varuna is not perfect in this regard, the wooden deck, rails, and bottom are laminated with fibreglass and epoxy bioresin. Still, as far as comparing carbon footprints goes, a Varuna balsa board will emit from 1.5-4 times less carbon than the average surfboard.

In effect, as co-founder Damo Cole explained to me, shapers could offset carbon emissions from standard surfboard materials by incorporating balsa construction for some of their models. That made a lot of sense to me.

Similarly, the same counter-balance can occur with surfers swapping out one or two PU/PE boards from their quiver for a chambered balsa board. Of course, that'll depend on how they ride.

Margo lays a Maurice Cole 6'4" Twin Pin on rail

I tested four boards over several months: two shortboards and two mid-lengths, and I have a high degree of confidence in the following observations.

The boards are well built and the blonde-grained balsa is beautiful to look at. I dropped mine several times onto the carpark, ran into rocks, and generally treated them like all my boards in high rotation, which is to say, roughly. There's not a single shatter, dent, or foot well to be seen. I have no doubt this method of chambered balsa construction is extremely durable and would likely last years, possibly decades.

Every material has different properties and different hydrostatic* and hydrodynamic** properties. Balsa feels more dense than a standard PU/PE board, it paddles lower in the water for the same given volume. It's heavier and with that comes greater momentum when paddling into a wave and cutting through chop and bump. Shaper to Harry Bryant, Josh Keogh is unequivocal on the merits of extra weight: “We've been tricked into thinking weight is a bad thing in surfing,” he said in an article appearing in the latest Surfers Journal. “Weight anchors the board to the water, which isn't a disadvantage unless you are trying to do aerials.”

Those are my thoughts exactly. Almost every surf I had on the Varuna boards had some wind chop and lump - it was summer in the Northern Rivers after all - and balsa's ability to dampen and cut through that chop felt like a performance advantage to me. Other surfers, perhaps used to twitchier, more lively-feeling equipment, may experience that extra weight in a different, less positive way.

The first board I rode, a 6'10” Joel Fitzgerald Cosmic Twin had a learning curve of one wave. That first one it felt weird, the second I felt the balsa glide, and every wave after that was a joy. It was both my first ride on a mid-length twin and my first ride on balsa and that combination felt like a marriage made in heaven. To be honest, balsa for mid-lengths seems like a complete no-brainer. You get better paddle, better swoop, better trim, and connection and carry too. Balsa guns have traditionally been crafted with these attributes in mind. Brendan Margieson described this feeling of balsa as having a “hidden energy”, which is something I have to agree with. Similar thinking would apply for their longboards.

The case for shorter, more performance-oriented boards is strong, but less compelling. Two smaller, twin fin-style boards: a 5'8” Space Hawk again by Joel Fitzgeral and a 5'11” Water Bird by Stuart D'Arcy, felt very fine to me and I had many fun surfs on them. But there were also moments when reaction times of the board were not quite as snappy as PU/PE. Talking to shaper Gunter Rohn in the carpark, who is going to incorporate two shapes into the Varuna stable, he thought the solution maybe to reduce volume. That may be possible, but Varuna are heading into a new frontier of design. Chambered balsa construction has different physical limits as far as width and thickness goes. The undeniable attributes of traditional PU/PE and EPS/Epoxy materials are their uniform and customisable nature. It's incredibly easy to tweak and refine dimensions from board to board. Wooden boards are a little more like carpentry and less able to be tweaked to suit individual preferences.

An example of this is the current limitation for shortboards in terms of fin boxes and weight. The reinforcements required for the boxes in the aft-end create an imbalance for quad set-ups in small boards - there are no quad fins in their range. The waterproof chambers also seem to have a point of diminishing returns as far as high performance equipment goes with the weight increasing as a proportion of decreasing length. These are engineering challenges that Varuna are confident they'll overcome through the short to medium term. For now, the chambered balsa technology applies perfectly to mid-lengths, longboards, and more alternative designs.

There are between 10 and 12 steps in making a standard PU/PE board, while in contrast there are up to 120 steps in making a chambered balsa Varuna. Chambered balsa boards are prone to sinking if the skin is punctured. Varuna get around this by glueing Gore-Tex between the chambers which allows air to pass through but not water. If the skin is breached, only the damaged chamber will fill and the board will still float.

The Seed to Surfboard ethos of Varuna has created a pathway and system which transcends surfboard building. Part forestry, part permaculture, part engineering, part local carpentry. This is not the first time it's been done. Small batch builders like Tom Wegener and Paul Joske have created similar systems using Paulownia. Varuna represents the first time this ecologically sustainable method of surfboard construction has been scaled and bought to market. Using the intellectual property of known shapers and using Indonesian craftsmen is a model borrowed from other Asian-sourced manufacturers, and has proven to be successful at managing costs. This amalgam of simple and innovative, ecologically sustainable, and business friendly puts Varuna on the cutting edge of several axes.

The business model creates several high-value products. According to co-founder Tom Nuytens, when the balsa is cut and milled only 10% is of the correct density for surfboard production. The rest is sold as high-value wood for different applications - kitchen fittings and wind turbines being just two. The reforested land creates value for the local communities with fruit crops and enhanced biodiversity. The increased value to livelihoods extends to shops in Bali and Australia, the shapers, everyone involved really. We don't tend to think about surfboard companies in this way, but in this instance it's worth reflecting on.

If riding a more environmentally-friendly surfboard is of even passing interest to you, you need to go check out the Varuna stable for yourself. To date, they've been pushing the idea of demo days and test rides, which, if you're curious, are worth pursuing to experience the feel of balsa and understand how the volume metric compares to traditional materials.

So has Varuna cracked the fully sustainable surfboard nut? For the purposes of what you can go and buy off the shelf, close enough.

// STEVE SHEARER

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Doggi Friday, 1 Mar 2024 at 2:44pm

You seen any of the videos on the Varuna youtube channel? Unfortunately the boards look extremely dull and pancake like. Even Joel Fitz is struggling to ride it. Those horizontal ribs maybe a factor...damn!

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Harry @ Varuna Monday, 4 Mar 2024 at 12:02pm

Hey Doggi, here's a clip of Joel riding the Cosmic Twin he designed

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And Joel on the Quokka designed by Beau Young from the YouTube Channel. Rare to see shapers testing each others models in the PU/Epoxy world but that's how much these shapers back the project -

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Garryh Monday, 11 Mar 2024 at 10:19am

No legrope on a heavy wooden board seems a bit unfair to others in the water no?

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Doggi Friday, 1 Mar 2024 at 2:47pm

not absorbing any chop, bouncy!

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freeride76 Friday, 1 Mar 2024 at 3:28pm

Harsh- looks like the board is holding speed fine to me in very bouncy surf.

Here's another clip in onshore, bumpy surf where the board is dampening the chop just fine.

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phnud Saturday, 2 Mar 2024 at 8:22am

Nice. Looks like they encourage flow which is good for us older surfers!

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BBrowny Friday, 1 Mar 2024 at 3:37pm

I reckon its fair enough criticism. All new tech attracts really close scrutiny....is it better than the old or not??...and I don't think Joel was surfing very good in that first video. Surprised they even released it. Much better in the second and there are also a whole lot of videos with Margo and Jared Mell and some kid I don't know surfing the boards well.

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zenagain Friday, 1 Mar 2024 at 5:11pm

They look lovely and seem to go alright (see vids above) and if it keeps the craftmanship alive, grab one and have fun.

On a personal note, I need to work on my swoop.

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blackers Friday, 1 Mar 2024 at 9:33pm

Get yerself onto a cosmic twin then Zen. Swoop city. Love mine, would be happy to give one of these balsa ones a go.

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seeds Saturday, 2 Mar 2024 at 6:22am

Blackers, what dims is your cosmic twin?

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blackers Saturday, 2 Mar 2024 at 9:58am

It’s a stock dims 6’10” Seeds, 6’ 10”x20 3/4x2 11/16. Got it glassed in volan so on the heavier side. Grooves along nicely, swoop and glide. NeedEssentials TM upright keels. Like to think I am surfing like Torryn but more likely just look like a middle aged kook on a mid length.

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seeds Saturday, 2 Mar 2024 at 11:11am

Ha that’s what I felt like and no doubt looked like groveling on a 7’10 with twins in this morning.
I purchased the Needs uprights for Tigers board. Are you running the hybrid type?

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blackers Saturday, 2 Mar 2024 at 12:49pm

Yep, the upright keels. Will be good in your new board for sure. I have a set of their standard keels as well which I use in a wider tailed board of similar dims. They hold better in bigger waves.

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tip-top1 Friday, 1 Mar 2024 at 5:24pm

great write up free!!, that twinny joel fitz is riding looks fast as, in buttery conditions would be great ,
whats the price tag?
it might be the carpenter in me but i do love the look of a timber board,

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Finnbob the terror Saturday, 2 Mar 2024 at 7:12am

A classic twin fin surfboard that holds single to double barrel concave plus a little extra foam through the nose to pick up waves fast.

I assume they mean a little extra volume rather than foam.

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Harry @ Varuna Monday, 4 Mar 2024 at 12:04pm

Thanks for the copy edits :) updated the page to say volume. All wood no foam in our boards.

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purny Saturday, 2 Mar 2024 at 1:41pm

hahaha ah yes the comment, "oh it's heavy" the bane of every wooden surfboard builder.

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timneumann Friday, 1 Mar 2024 at 6:44pm

Love the concept, great to see people thinking outside the box, and looking at more sustainable products.

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rooftop Friday, 1 Mar 2024 at 6:52pm

Until I read the caption I couldn't tell if the bloke doing the cutback was Santa Claus or Ernest Hemingway.

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Lanky Dean Saturday, 2 Mar 2024 at 7:44am

Once you get a hole , what do you do ?

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mr mick Saturday, 2 Mar 2024 at 9:15am

Stick ya dick in it!

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Lanky Dean Monday, 4 Mar 2024 at 3:57pm

Really?

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Harry @ Varuna Monday, 4 Mar 2024 at 1:03pm

Repair it and keep on surfing. Here's a guide to how to repair different dings. For some of them the process is the same as you would do for a PU/Epoxy board.

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mr mick Saturday, 2 Mar 2024 at 9:13am

Stick ya dick in it!

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memlasurf Sunday, 3 Mar 2024 at 4:01pm

C'mon there has to be better holes to stick the blue veined hooligan in!

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mr mick Sunday, 3 Mar 2024 at 5:59pm

Haha, Thought LD may have got his sites mixed up, just trying to help. But yeah splinters could be a problem for the one eyed trouser snake.

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I focus Saturday, 2 Mar 2024 at 1:01pm

Good luck to the Varuna crew they have taken on a massive challenge which they seem to be doing really well, to run this style of board in a production sense is pretty amazing its extraordinary hard compared to a stock pu board or even epoxy / eps.

Some talk about weight which tends to apply to most timber style boards but you can get it back to a normal stock pu which took me a while to figure out for my boards I am sure the Varuna crew will work it out for thiers.

Board performance and paddling ease is depended on outline (width), rails and bottom shape some way back down the list is volume and weight which most move to the top of the list lastly get the board to suit the waves you surf..

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Spuddups Sunday, 3 Mar 2024 at 7:10am

I think this is a great idea. Got me thinking about the carbon footprint of my surfboard though. There's roughly 2.5kg of petrochemicals in a surfboard. The average motorist burns about 40kg of petrol a week. Flying to Indonesia and back is in the hundreds of kg of Kerosene burned per person. I know there's a lot more to it than that, but something to ponder aye. By all means buy a wooden surfboard, but if you really want to lower your carbon footprint as a surfer then cutting down on air travel in particular would help a lot. If you can buy an electric car and charge it from solar panels on your roof then that'll help as well.

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Island Bay Sunday, 3 Mar 2024 at 8:04am

Most eco friendly board? I thought of my 6yo Desert Storm, with hundreds of days and countless rock encounters behind it, but then saw this Owl beauty. Hard to beat 36 years of North Shore surf.

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Harry @ Varuna Monday, 4 Mar 2024 at 12:09pm

Classic shot and 100% agree that longevity equals sustainable. Have you seen the clips of Varuna Vs Hammer? We're projecting that our boards will be heirloom items as well.

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freeride76 Sunday, 3 Mar 2024 at 10:51am

Deffo IB.

I have a Brewer under house shaped by Owl.

Bought it second hand off a bloke on the side of the road at Sunset mid 90's. Was probably close to a decade old then.
Still going strong.

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Island Bay Sunday, 3 Mar 2024 at 10:55am

Lucky fella.

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freeride76 Sunday, 3 Mar 2024 at 11:03am

Think I paid $150 US or something ridiculous- fella was keen for cash.

Probably went straight up his nose.

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Island Bay Sunday, 3 Mar 2024 at 11:34am

Great that you still have it. Surf at it big Point?

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freeride76 Sunday, 3 Mar 2024 at 11:40am

Many times.

Makes mincemeat of 10-12ft S swell with 20 knots of side shore wind and 4 kts of current.

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Island Bay Sunday, 3 Mar 2024 at 11:56am

Sounds like a dream!

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farquarson Sunday, 3 Mar 2024 at 3:48pm

How do you empty the water out of the board if you get a ding/ leak ?
Don't understand why each chamber is sealed with goretex. The traditional screw in vent plug serves 2 purposes - releases pressure & allows water to flow out if your board gets punctured and leaks. I thought t hey might have gone with a goretex leggie plug that you can unscrew, but seems not if they seal every chamber with goretex.

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stunet Sunday, 3 Mar 2024 at 6:04pm

"...releases pressure & allows water to flow out if your board gets punctured and leaks."

Not if your board fills up and sinks to the bottom first. The Gore-Tex confines the water to just one chamber so the board will still float.

Similar concept to the Titanic...

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farquarson Sunday, 3 Mar 2024 at 7:42pm

How does it allow water to flow out ?
If goretex won't allow water into the board , how can it release it ?

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stunet Sunday, 3 Mar 2024 at 7:50pm

Gore-tex is in the holes between chambers.

If a chamber gets breached it has to dry out.

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farquarson Sunday, 3 Mar 2024 at 10:17pm

Ok . The other day I got small finchop in my wooden board which let about a cup of water into the board, barely a crack. No worries , the board is sealed on the inside, just opened the screwed vent plug in the tail , held the board vertically , gave it a shake & the water ran out. How does a cup of water in a chamber miaculously just dry out , if there's no way to release it .

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freeride76 Monday, 4 Mar 2024 at 5:43am

Same way it went in.

Put the board on an angle and let it release through the hole/ding that let it in.

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farquarson Monday, 4 Mar 2024 at 9:39am

That would work for a large hole , but not for a small crack like I had.

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freeride76 Monday, 4 Mar 2024 at 9:47am

If it can let a cup of water in, why can't it let it out?

Gore-tex is hydro-phobic, water is dense, heavy and gravity loves it.

Tilt it up and let it drain out the same hole it went in.

Why would that not work?

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farquarson Monday, 4 Mar 2024 at 10:13am

Maybe your right . I surfed for 2 hours after I got the ding , so maybe if I tried your method the water would drain out through the crack in 2 hours, next ding I will try that method. I just think a screw you can undo & release water is the most logical & practicle way, only takes a minute.

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boxright Monday, 4 Mar 2024 at 9:57am

Was your wooden board glassed?

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freeride76 Monday, 4 Mar 2024 at 9:59am

Yeah, they are glassed.
Single layer of glass and epoxy resin.

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boxright Monday, 4 Mar 2024 at 10:09am

I meant ask farqharson. I suspected that his board may not have been laminated.

Laminated balsa veneer almost never 'cracks'. Heel or knee impression on the deck dont happen so you can't get sneaky water ingress. Typically water intake can only happen through larger punctures like fin chops which should make it very easy to drain and dry out.

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farquarson Monday, 4 Mar 2024 at 10:26am

Glassed with epoxy & 4 oz fibreglass mat. First leak in 10 years . I think paulownia is more brittle than balsa, so more prone to cracking , balsa seems to be more soft & compressive.

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bigtreeman Wednesday, 6 Mar 2024 at 9:29am

A board half full of water doesn't sink to the bottom, will hold some air, but it's sure difficult to catch a wave, water surge inside. It will sort of float enough to get to shore. Doesn't need Gore-Tex to retain some air. Worst holing I had was a large split around the tail after a set landed on me, pressurising the whole board, would have taken out two or three chambers. Still left the nose full of air.

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Harry @ Varuna Monday, 4 Mar 2024 at 1:00pm

Here is the full repair guide for any major holes in the boards.

The Gore-Tex creates a water tight section of each chamber. If water got in then it wouldn't spread throughout the board and be hard to remove. In this case you would drill into the board as shown to get the water out then go about repairing the hole as shown.

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drodders Sunday, 3 Mar 2024 at 5:01pm

A McCoy Nugget in this construction would work well

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farquarson Sunday, 3 Mar 2024 at 7:45pm

Yep , made a mini nugget out of pauly , goes unreal.

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udo Sunday, 3 Mar 2024 at 7:52pm

Pics Farqua ?

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farquarson Monday, 4 Mar 2024 at 9:42am

Sorry udo, don't have photobucket.

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OkayGliding Monday, 4 Mar 2024 at 12:47pm

"the surfer is up there with the worst relative global individual footprint". Sounds a bit harsh, but yeah, constantly traveling the world to get some pleasant sensory stimulation is pretty frivolous on a planet whose ecosystems are collapsing from neglect.

Ecofriendly boards require us to compromise the perfect sensory experience and put up with a board which may be less maneuverable. For some people this compromise is a joy, knowing that they're not polluting the earth.

Tom Wegener, who you mention, makes chambered boards with Paulownia and reckons he doesn't even need epoxy and glass, just linseed to seal out water: "As I mastered my process for making the boards and the paulownia suppliers were getting better at milling the wood, I found that I did not have to glass the boards any more. I could make a hollow water tight board that did not need a coat of fibreglass to keep the water out. I sealed the wood with linseed oil. The oiled surfboard has some very special qualities. First, the oiled surface is very fast in the water. There is little surface tension and the board actually feels slippery in the water. Second, the boards are lighter so they are easier to carry around on land. Third, the board is a very green product. There are almost no resins or toxic materials in the making of the board. I have made about 50 of these boards ranging from fish and eggs shapes to noseriders and tunas. There is one catch to the Planktons; they need care. You have to take the bung out of the board when you are not surfing it or the air may expand in the board and may cause a crack. They can mould and should be kept inside. They need to be oiled ever six or so surfs. But if you follow simple instructions you will have the best board on the planet."

Some people also use Tung Oil, which dries with a harder finish than linseed, and aid it's initial penetration into the wood with citrus terpene. However Tung is much more expensive.

An interesting article here on making a modern short board shape following Tom's methods: https://www.phoresia.org/board-construction/hp-paulownia-surfboard-a-gre...

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freeride76 Monday, 4 Mar 2024 at 12:59pm

Nice one OG.

To be honest, I found the feeling of balsa very enjoyable- it has a different feeling in the water and I liked it.
I didn't experience it as a compromise at all. But I could imagine some might.

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Terminal Monday, 4 Mar 2024 at 1:56pm

Hate to be that guy, but isn't GoreTex (Polytetrafluoroethylene) a PFAS? I.e., a forever chemical?

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Lanky Dean Monday, 4 Mar 2024 at 3:56pm

You be that guy!
I think it's pretty gnar......

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bigtreeman Wednesday, 6 Mar 2024 at 8:10am

Your frames are pretty intense, assembly must be fun.
I now have some python script to make fingers for connecting sides to make everything tie together really strongly. It means I can make it all from thinner ply and it is stronger. Assembly is simple and straight forward.
I have spent many years developing open source technologies. I write software, design and build hardware and machinery.
I first got involved with the open-source community back in the 80s, sharing is the way of the future.

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Jelly Flater Thursday, 7 Mar 2024 at 11:03am

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lastofthev8s Sunday, 19 May 2024 at 12:53pm

Steve you mentioned that you tested four boards but only discuss three. Can you provide some details and feedback from the fourth? Thanks.

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freeride76 Sunday, 19 May 2024 at 2:05pm

6'8" Mid length from D'arcy with a 2 + 1 set-up. Round pin set-up.
Very standard feeling mid- I like them more in the 6'10-7'2" range- so felt a little small for me, as far as getting trim and drive goes.
Very fun riding board in slopey, windy beachie or Point surf - where the paddle power and rail line could be used.
A bit bland and vanilla feeling in small surf.

I much preferred the mid length twin.

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lastofthev8s Tuesday, 25 Jun 2024 at 11:49pm

Very late reply FR, but thanks.
Have been tossing up between that board and an MC Twin Pin 6'9.
Think I'll hit the go button on the MC.

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