Kelly Slater Awarded WSL Wildcard For 2024
MARGARET RIVER, Western Australia, Australia (Thursday, April 27, 2023)
Kelly Slater (USA) and Johanne Defay (FRA) have been awarded the WSL Season Wildcards for 2023/2024. The Season Wildcards give Slater and Defay entry into Championship Tour (CT) events following the Mid-season Cut and entry into the first half of the 2024 CT season. Miguel Pupo (BRA) and Brisa Hennessy (CRC) have been awarded the 2024 WSL Season Wildcards, which give entry to all competitions in the first half of the 2024 CT season.
Slater, as a former World Champion, and Defay, as a previous Final 5 competitor, will earn ranking points as the Season Wildcards and thus will be eligible for the WSL Final 5 rankings, where the Top 5 surfers on the men's and women's CT will compete in the Rip Curl WSL Finals to compete for the 2023 World Title. Slater's ranking points will also give him the opportunity to compete for provisional qualification for the Olympic Games Paris 2024. Defay's provisional qualification for the Olympics was confirmed last week at the Western Australia Margaret River Pro.
11-time World Champion Slater is regarded as the greatest competitive surfer of all time, holding nearly every major record in the sport, including 11 World Titles, 56 CT victories, and being both the youngest and oldest World Champion in men’s history. He’s had a huge influence on the sport through his progressive surfing, competitive nature, and wave system technology. Slater’s incredible career started with winning Rookie of the Year in 1990 and spans more than three decades. He won his first World Title in 1992 and his most recent Title in 2011. In 2022, Slater claimed his 56th CT victory at Pipeline, just a few days before his 50th birthday. Now at age 51, Slater is in search of adding yet another World Title and a provisional Olympic qualification to his name.
Defay has finished in the Top 10 every year on the Championship Tour since qualifying in 2014. She competed in the Rip Curl WSL Finals in 2021 and 2022, finishing fourth and third, respectively, on the world rankings. Defay represented France at the Olympics Games Tokyo 2020 and is set to make her second Olympic appearance as she has provisionally qualified for the Olympic Games Paris 2024.
The WSL Season Wildcards are selected by the WSL Tours and Competition team following applications from athletes. The wildcard selection process takes into account competitive performance, such as World Titles, CT and Challenger Series rankings, and event results, as well as a medical evaluation if applicable.
“With the rankings for the Mid-season Cut completed, we’ve announced Kelly Slater and Johanne Defay as the WSL Season Wildcards for 2023 and 2024, and Miguel Pupo and Brisa Hennessy the Season Wildcards for 2024,” said Jessi Miley-Dyer, WSL Chief of Sport. “The WSL Rule Book allows for only former World Champions and previous WSL Final 5 competitors to be eligible to earn points in the second half of the season as the Season Wildcards. Kelly and Johanne meet those criteria, so we look forward to seeing them complete the CT season. We also look forward to welcoming back Miguel and Brisa in 2024."
Finals Day awaits at the Western Australia Margaret River Pro. The competition window will close on April 30, but promising forecasts suspect Friday, April 28, could see the final rounds of the competition completed and the event winners crowned.
Comments
Huge if true. Oh wait...
Justice for Ramzi!
As much as I would love to see Slater in the Olympics, and I certainly think hes earned the right to compete there, he needs to get off tour. Unfortunately though the only way to qualify for Olympics is to stay on bloody tour.... argh
Kelly might be able to represent Syria at the Olympics.
Wonder if he will change "passports" , hes got an Irish background as well yeah?
Didn't see this coming..
"The wildcard selection process takes into account competitive performance, such as World Titles, CT and Challenger Series rankings, and event results, as well as a medical evaluation if applicable."
Forever and ever Amen.
Shouldn’t that read “…and a media evaluation”
Assume you are being sarcastic….they changed the rules for him just last month. Widely reported elsewhere
It's all about marketing innit? Fair play to give KS the 2023 slot but should a WC be given an automatic spot for the following season? That's hard on the CS blokes who finish on the bubble. The possibility of Kelly bombing out this year validates a no-go for '24.
Kellys attempt at a carving 360 in the heat to save his career suggests he's not really interested.
Not surprising really, but really feel for Ramzi and Jadson, neither of which got to surf a single event this year due to injury.
Johanne Defay is fair, but Brisa getting the wildcard over Sophie is total BS.
WSL doing a great job of antagonising their fan base.
I would bet my left nut that Kelly knew this before Margies- at least before that Final Presser where he was incredibly cheery and not a single word about retirement or going on the CS.
Probably the safest bet in pro sports that they would give Kelly a Wildcard for the next year.
Indeed! Athletes had to have applied as well according to the presser.
What’s the point of even having a cut, if it only applies to journeymen and rookies?
I bet all my male anatomy that he knew after the 2020 Olympics concluded.
This is what I want. This is what I get..
Ah well, there goes any pretence of credibility.
Next they'll adjust the rulebook and add a 6th spot to Trestles finals day for a wildcard.
Ever since I shifted my perception of the WSL from something serious and credible to a slapstick comedy, I really have been enjoying it more. In fact, life, in general, has been better.
For any jaded fans turning their back on it, just think of the Seinfeld theme song when you watch or consume any of its media — it works!
Nice approach with the Seinfeld theme song... especially when Kiapo is up on a ladder dressed like a Village People tradie!
Curb your enthusiasm theme song!
lmao...what a fucking amatuer organisation.
OK - Im officially a conspiracy theorist
The future of surfing.....is a couple of long termers that failed to make it...yet make it.
Defey getting a wildcard is even more hilarious than Slater getting it
Defay is the most legit one…injured and was top 5 last year?
KS has gone from the goat to a joke
Shameless Kelly
Surprise!!
tbb bets whole swellnet crew mandated Kelly's 2100 Wildcard last Century before WSL had a crack!
CT divas now toss out any soggy sangas from their Cut Lunch to score an invite to Fab 5 High Tea Party.
Weetbix Grom Od's on Unsportsmanlike WSL Full Frontal preservative supplement [CT 1,330]
Coach : "I Tried to tell him that the potent hodad supplement WSL [CT 1,330] won't advance his career!"
Media : "So, yer not much of a Coach then are you!"
https://www.worldsurfleague.com/athletes/tour/mct?year=2023
No surprise after seeing them gift Sally fitz wildcard last year. Kelly is still the biggest advertising drawcard they have by far , lose him and then its almost a full cast of rotating unknowns (except Stef obviously and maybe JJF? ) as far as mainstream non surfer surfing contest viewers go (as well as all the 50year olds). Might have to drag Mick Fanning back into the mix too wsl?
Hey, screw you Mike with your broad assumptions about what 50 year olds know about the WSL.
I'm over 50 and I know more than just Kelly's name. There's that South African chap Joey Smith, and I think Helen Ewing's boy Evan competes sometimes.
I might even recognize more if you showed me pic and promoted me on the names,
Not all over 50's and like those grumpy graying Rangas you see flapping around in the South West on 6" thick PE's!
I think Fanning has more self respect, is proud of what he achieved and has moved on to the next stage of his life.
If a surfer doesn't make the cut then its tough luck and they (well most) had their chance - Including KS.(this is putting aside if the cut is fair in the first place or not).
But the wildcard is at the WSLs discretion and of course they will give it to the biggest audience drawcard.
I know I will be tuning in to watch KS at places like Jbay and Chopes over 99% of other surfers who didn't make it. Seems cruel but it makes sense from their business model and they aren't doing it for sh!ts and giggles. Its still a business and we keep tuning in.
hey James, when Slater is surfing I don't watch..why would you want to watch a old man surf when you have shredders like John,ryan, Callum, robbo, Italo, Medina, holy, Ethan, yago, Joao etc who will all absolutely shred at jbay and chopes..
All those dudes are already on tour as they made the cut so will watch them and love them
But I could still watch that old man surf any day on a big long wall or barrel
Hard to argue against the GOAT getting a wildcard, but would have been a bit more credible if they gave him wildcards to his favourite events rather than another whole year
…or if it was a retirement wildcard for the rest of 23 but to give him a guaranteed start in 2024 is fucking ridiculous.
Yeah that would have been a cool little retirement parade then off into the sunset
Yeah Ke11y, you get to use your extensive competitive nouse and stomp some more rookies into the elimination round then resort to incomprehensible surfing while getting trounced by any of the top 5.
Booyah #zombiegoat
wildcards use to be for injured surfers...now they are for precious, pampered rich surfers who are part of the inner circle... very unprofessional
Had hoped Slater beat O’Brien at Margaret River, so he qualified on his own for 2024; however, in the WSL/Logan’s prioritization of “storylines”, there is no way WSL would drop the ball on pro surfing’s biggest storyline of Slater’s farewell tour year.
And, his chance of making the Olympics depends on beating Colapinto and Florence in points, so he will probably have to win two of the remaining five events, and at least quarterfinals in the other three, which is looking unlikely considering his surfing in this year’s first five contests.
Yeah he's clearly not at that level anymore. Should've just taken a couple of event wildcards, but he is the GOAT so it's all good.
One of them gets injured and he’s in.
This is perfectly logical in a world of TBTF banks, bailouts for all and sundry, jobkeeper, and an absolute divorce of any form of consequence. I understand it completely. Party on.
I'll continue to watch Kelly. Just to see how a fifty plus guy can surf. Can't see him making many heats.
Will he show up at El Salvador and Brazil?
Injured for those.
Is mathematically possible for Slater to win the title this year?
Can we have less Kel and more Al?
"Coke masterminded another PR masterstroke when in 1991 they launched the Classic Wave Competition, the winner of which received a wildcard entry into the main event of the Coca-Cola Surf Classic at North Narrabeen. The winner was Allan Willis, a 32-year old brickie from Bundaberg who’d surfed twice in the last six months and was recovering from haemorrhoids.
"Unsurprisngly, Willis lost his first round heat to Ross Clarke-Jones then retired to the VIP area for schooners. According to Tim Baker, Willis had “arrived with an esky full of fresh Bundaberg prawns as a gesture of gratitude to dispense to his hosts.”
"When his hosts then gave him a new surfboard and cheque for $1,750, Willis couldn’t hide his glee. “I’m just stoked off my tits,” said Willis."
https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-dispatch/2018/04/16/where-the-wil...
Blake Johnson for the wc
And so say all of us!
Brilliant idea
Brilliant idea
Will Bobby M comment ?
Im surprised that everyones surprised......Kelly said he 'knows a guy' ......
Knows a guy who writes the rules.
The WSL update their rulebook once or twice a year, and I make a point of downloading every version.
As of August 2022, Season Wildcards couldn't receive CT points, however that changed in February this year with a short inclusion that they can receive CT points "if the WSL Wildcard is a former world champion or competed in the WSL Finals."
Was it written specifically for KS, knowing that his rankings were sliding? Impossible to say for certain, but easy to assume. God knows the Woz have form on the board.
Also, this means KS has to go Brazil for the first time in about ten years.
I'm sure wildcards could get points before 2022, so it might be reverting to a weird version of the previous position. Didn't Mikey Wright qualify by being an awesome wildcard?
Injury Wildcards always could, but Event Wildcards and Season Wildcards - which are a fairly new category - couldn't.
Mikey injured his back at Pipe in 2018 and was granted an Injury Wildcard. The complications was that three surfers - Mikey, Leo, and ADS - fought over two Injury Wildcards. It was settled by giving one to ADS (past World Champ gets priority) and then Mikey and Leo getting a start in the first three comps of the season. Mikey came out ahead of Leo so he carried on.
He also copped a few Event Wildcards over the years but got no points for those.
It looks like he got a variety of sponsor, WSL and injury wildcards in 2018, and I don't think he had qualified through the QS at that stage? He got injured in 2019 then got the injury wildcards the following year (which ended up being 2021 with covid).
Correct, mpeachy. That's how I recall it.
taking a wildcard spot from ramzi to full-fill some kind of selfish fucked up dream is disgusting, he will come last every remaining heat this year.
He doesn't need this, he's a sook. If you don't do your job you get fired.
Unless you're the WSL, then you do as you please.
Reckon Ramzi will get an Injury Wildcard next season.
And if he doesn't then I'm issuing a fatwa on Erik Logan.
He is doing his job Burleigh, look at the passionate engagement of blushing faced fans like yourself in response to the announcement!
You must warm the very cockles of Ziff's heart
2022 Backdoor Pre Comp Liam Leg Injury (WSL Mash Unit Surgeon performed Surgery on the day!)
https://www.surfline.com/surf-news/moments-first-surf-back-liam-obrien/1...
2023 Backdoor Pre Comp Ramzi leg injury (Had to wait a month for surgery!)
https://www.facebook.com/people/Ramzi-Boukhiam/100044668869621/
Wondering if Liam signed up for WSL package on CT eve! (vs) pre WSL arrival Ramzi was too early!
Kinda like > Fingerprint in blood here & here Liam...break a Leg (Ouch!) Set 4 Life!
Liam CT Surfers Union insurance for WSL Surgery + Injury Wild Card Slot
Ramzi No CT Surfers Union insurance > No mention of WSL Docs / Injury Wild Card
Noticing that WSL are keeping well away from Ramzi...
Good to see #1 Journo & crew enquire about a fair go!
All notice this rise in free surf injuries keeps Elo shuffling his Wild Card Deck...
Reckon 2024 Rule Book might play poker with the Injury Wild Card again!
“The WSL Rule Book allows for only former World Champions and previous WSL Final 5 competitors to be eligible to earn points in the second half of the season as the Season Wildcards."
How long has this rule existed? Since it looked like Kelly might retire?
'Twas written into the rulebook in February this year. Didn't exist before then.
EDIT: Was written in January, corrected here for all the pedantic bastards out there.
Well, say no more.
Yeh nothing suss there at all from the WSL. Play on.
Not to make a big issue out of it, but it was more likely "typed" or "entered" into the rulebook wasn't it?
Eh?
Typing is writing, and entered is a verb not noun.
Oops, duly noted Stu.
A verb is a "doing" word right? Can pedantic be used as verb?
Yep, doing words. Not sure what the verb form of pedantic would be.
Pedantise..?
Whatever, it feels like we're both doing it now.
Cheers Stu!
"pedantising" sounds like something you wouldn't want to accuse anyone of doing to near a school
Thats why big Kel has been so smug lately
The WSL is like a junkie and Slater is their Methadone. They don't reach the highs they once did but just need a little taste to get through the day. They're going to have to live without him one day so just go cold turkey. It'll work out in the end, might just be tough for a while. Slater has to surf out of his skin just to win a heat against anybody these days, he's chipping away at his amazing legacy.
I’m not so sure why this draws the ire of so many. It is what it is and also no surprise. I don’t understand why Kelly would want to keep going but I imagine things can’t continue for too long. He’ll make a few people happy in whatever places he visits in that time I’m sure.
A sense of fairness is why. There are many surfers who can perform at a higher level than KS. That he gets a place and they don't is not fair.
I don’t disagree.
If we treat the WSL as a serious professional sporting organisation, then this is just one of many decisions that takes the piss out of both spectator and athlete.
They do as they please, change the goal posts whenever they want and seemingly without regard for either of their major stakeholders.
This is why I don’t get too frazzled by it anymore. It’s interesting but light entertainment at best.
Anyone with a Tab account ( or similar ) be able to tell me what the current odds are for KS11 to become KS12 ?
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I guess that's why they changed the name from Association of Surfing Professionals.... Must be hard for ELO with both Kelly and Ziff shoved up his arse but he wears it well.
The sports world is littered with those who hung on for one season, one fight or one tournament too long. Retiring after the Pipe win would have meant ending an unrivalled career as number one in the world which very few have had the opportunity to do. Whether or not he deserves the wild card (obviously he does), unless the next 18 months produces heaving barrels at the majority of locations, I think it's a slow slide down the rankings. His legacy doesn't deserve it but his ego probably won't prevent it.
Could see this coming a mile away..
Lol woweee
Just for the for the sake of the argument, is there another pro sport where an ageing champion who failed to qualify, could be kept in the top echelon by an arbitrary wildcard?
I'm struggling to think of one, but surely there must be a precedent?
Golf
They get cut when they don't make the cut, yeah?
I know green jacket winners get invited every year.
But thats different.
Remember when Ian Thorpe got invited to the Tokyo olympics to swim the 400m? Or when Darren Lockyer got to play in last year’s Origin?
Yeah me neither
I'm pretty sure Tiger would be able to play any tournament in the world if his body and mind allowed
Did he just play a tournament?
Yep and any other one he wishes …
Your point ?
Just trying to find an analogue in another Professional Sport.
Sure, it’s called the World Wrestling Federation.
I could happily watch T Curren, K Slater, Steph G, R Federer & Tiger Woods do their sport; they might give the older athletes & norms inspiration to get off the bench / lounge, etc.... & help the $ponsors.
List of Oldest Olympic athletes below
https://www.topendsports.com/events/summer/oldest-per-sport.htm
Flawed premise.
How many other sports have aging champions with that many titles?
Plus - and I know you know this - this is an entertainment company first and a professional sports league second.
British open in golf Tom Watson nearly won at 56 a few years back. Blew the last hole to get 2nd. Golf is probably the best example where past champs get exemptions for years
Yep cheers, seems to be.
The "Masters" in golf is the only one I can think of - past winners are automatically eligible to enter, bypassing normal qualification requirements.
Not really an analogue though given its one event not a whole tour.
Lawn bowls and equestrian ??
Tennis tournaments do it to an extent
I think the chess world champion who used anal beads which had vibrations giving him tips in the finals from a super A.I. chess computer gaming machine was 82 but im not sure.
Edit he was a teenage chess master actually and the accusations were just hearsay and speculation.
https://kotaku.com/chess-scandal-cheating-grand-anal-bead-niemann-carlse...
Only 7 guys have won a CT more recently than Kelly, 5 of whom occupy the top five spots on the current leader board and the other two book marking Kelly in the rankings.
Plenty of the top 22 have never won a CT (and are unlikely to ever win one).
With so much dead wood in the Top 22 surely it's understandable the Ziff would want to bolster the competition with a little Kelly magic? He is, after all, in the business of generating entertainment content to sell advertising space
The best will always tend to dominate unless there's some sort of handicap system in place. So at any given time most participants will not be a recent winner.
Oh well. Carry on Ke12y.
One more title up your sleeve?
Who gets the wildcard when Kelly gets injured?
Kelly doesn’t need to be injured anymore - he’s good for 23 and 24.
If Slater was a decent bloke he’d politely decline and pass it on to a young up and comer or an injured surfer.
Fuck the man is just desperate for it, give it up Slats. You’ve had your time.
Why not just give him a wild card for Pipe or Tahiti instead of the whole season that includes places he’s probably got no interest in going to.
Has he spoken at all on his motivations on why he keeps on going? Is it just to give himself a shot at the Olympics? I'm struggling to understand why he wants to continue on, it's just starting to look a bit sad for him and this latest wildcard chapter really isn't a good look for him (I'm sure he doesn't give a flying f what a bunch of forum posters think of course).
But genuinely why would he bother accepting the wildcard? Just go chase the best waves in the world all year instead of dealing with waiting periods and heats!
Narcissistic? Insecure? Desperate for the limelight and attention? All of the above and more?
Going for his 12th world title for Peter Pan Syndrome!
I love watching him surf, but the double standard unfairness of this situation is hard to swallow. Jackson Baker deserves to be pissed.
Dx3 I’m not sure if he’s spoken about his motivation somewhere, probably has?
I’ll be the first to admit when he won pipe recently it was an amazing achievement and I was stoked for him. But to me that would of been the perfect way to go out.
Yeah exactly like you said, when he could genuinely chase any swell to any part of the world he wanted to, why the hell would you want to jump back on the tour circus again?
Some deep down fear of not having there because that’s all he’s ever known?
He is treated like a god at surf comps. Turn up, surf a few heats, catchup with some old friends, get treated like a king. Rinse repeat, not a bad life.
Absolutely nailed it.
He’s doing a great job of eroding his legacy.
I guess he still is a big draw card for the WSL so just as much about them than it is him.
After 2024 he should get a wild card to three events of his choice for life though.
Over the last few days Toby Martin has been making some astute commentary on the situation, made all the more meaningful cos he was someone heavily invested in the sanctity of competitive surfing.
Amongst other things he's critical of Slater having prior knowledge of the wildcard so, for better or worse, he surfed Margaret River knowing there was a safety net, and that's a disadvantage to all his opponents.
That his astute comments about this mornings announcement have been made over the last few days says a lot about the situation. Supported by the lack of any surprise evident in the comments here from those outside the bubble of the WSL (with apologies to Freeride76 who evidently rides so close to the heart of the beast).
If any of his opponents were unaware of the very high likelihood of a Kelly safety net then they must have been willfully unaware. And the potential for complacency on Slaters part offered by the safety net might just as easily be argued as an advantage to his opponents.
Think you're missing the point, mate. Whether his opponents knew or not isn't the issue. It's that Kelly could afford to surf differently during his heats knowing there was nothing at stake.
No Stu, the point wasn't missed. The potential advantage assumes that Slater would be surfing better relaxed and confident in the knowledge that his place on the tour was secure.
Isn't the selling point on the mid season cut the drama offered by putting the surfers under pressure and motivating them to clutch performances? Pre-knowledge of the wildcard took this out of the equation for Kelly.
His opponents at Margs faced a relaxed and secure Kelly rather than a Kelly facing the ignominy of the cut. Calling this a disadvantage to his opponents assumes that a relaxed Kelly is the more dangerous of the two, and I'd argue that that ain't necessarily so.
Again, point missed. Not to be condescending but it sounds like you haven't surfed too many heats.
Competitive surfing is 9/10 psychological. Knowing there's a safety net, a surfer can afford to take bigger risks earlier in a heat rather than start slowly and build a house - for want of a better term.
If the big moves stick then he's in a brilliant position, one he wouldn't ordinarily find himself, and one that puts his opponent at a disadvantage, and if they don't...well, no matter, safety net.
Keep in mind you're not arguing against me but also a ten year veteran of the CT, and also the prevailing wisdom of any commentator who's called a CT comp.
Keep going if you feel you must...
huge, huge advantage for Kelly to know beforehand.
"Keep going if you must..."
Ha, mike drop? Medina style arms crossed claim? I love it!
There is no "must" about it Brother, I'm enjoying your opinion but happy to let it lie if you are not.
As for being condescending, worry not, I have a thick skin and healthy respect for an experienced opinion.
You are right, I've never surfed a heat, and wouldn't need a mid-season cut to add the potential for ignominy to the event if I ever did! Does that invalidate my opinion?
I'll humbly bow and concede to the collective wisdom of yourself, any ten year veteran, Kaipo, Joe and the gang on the mechanics and strategy of a surfing heat which, by your evaluation, accounts for 1/10th of competitive surfing.
As for the 9/10 psychological component, the man on man (or person on person) interaction, the building of motivation, the response to pressure whether internal or perceived external, none of that is unique to surfing or indeed sport of any sort. And who knows, in the long hours afforded to me while not surfing heats, I might had acquired just enough insight into some of these to not completely invalidate an opinion on Swellnet.
As for missing the point...my response was to your closing line "...and that's a disadvantage to all his opponents". An opinion stated as a truth. Neither yourself or TM know that with certainty.
Sure, comfort can lead to confidence but it can also lead to complacency. If Slater had faced LOB with his place on the tour truly in doubt would it have inspired him to a greater level of surfing in response to that pressure? Was LOB gifted the advantage of facing a Kelly comfortable in his secured spot on the tour rather than a desperate Kelly?
There are many instances where he has responded to pressure with incredible performances, and probably as many that he has folded. We were robbed of finding that out by the back room dealings, but my point is you don't know. You have an opinion that you can support with great experience, it still doesn't make it a certainty that anyone was disadvantaged.
Not buying in here, but...
“Nominating that pot as yours Rubicon!” Borrowed and adapted - Cheers TBB
Jeez, so many begrudgers. We all knew it was going to happen. I am glad Kelly is getting a very long lap of honour next year to say goodbye. I think his motivation to keep going for one more year is purely Olympics...while also pushing the boundaries out of ageism in sport as far as he can, competing with the world's best and giving them a good run for all their ratings points, egos and money. I wonder what will the whingers say if he wins again in Tahiti later this year, or Pipe again next year? Both outcomes are more probable than possible. And if there is an injury to John John or Griffin, well, then his Olympic dream at Tahiti is reality. Win or lose more events, qualify for Olympics, or not, I am happy our King gets to conclude his incredible long reign on his own terms. So, no worries, it will be all over next year, unless he requalifies, ha! Either way, there will never be another like him. I will enjoy every one of his performances this year and next. And I reckon many of those complaining will too. Cheers.
100% agree on all that.
While he still surfs pretty damn good especially for his age when it comes to general surfing turns etc the best have now passed him, but if its solid Tahiti or Backdoor its really only JJF and Gab that are up there with similar chance to take things out.
Gotta put Robbo and probably Chianca in that list too.
As well as needing an injury to John John or Griff, Seth has made the cut as well.
Exactly. He still has to qualify above those blokes or via the other route if he can claim citizenship elsewhere. No doubt the WC for the first half of 2024 is to get him qualified for the Olympics in the event he hasn’t already done so and one of the others is injured. The odds of him being in Tahiti for the Olympics seem pretty slim at this stage unless the Confederacy has another crack at succession or Putin fast tracks him a Russian passport.
Im really happy for the GOAT, seems a little maybe minorly corrupt and biased due to his power and status and getting chosen, but good on him...No one will ever be a 53 year old or 54 year old again on tour surfing pipe chopes and good waves as good as him. and no one will ever be his age again in the olympics....He also seems fairly injury free most of the time compared to jjf.
But Marzo deserves a wild card at chopes, mikey wright too!
Jakes point deeper usually unridden section slab is heavier and deadlier and full of oyster shells and barnacles than chopes and less makeable(which chopes doesnt get heavy till 6 foot plus) and mike took it on like a champ last time he was there.Inspiring stuff but some don't like his down carves and different style of approaching a wave i guess..but everyone loves watching marzo.
This guy is legendary, still, he is the GOAT. I am so stoked to watch that guy surf and glad to hear that news, he maintains his dynamic and pulls off trick maneuvers that keeps us all entertained. His freakish micro split second timing and amazing reflexes are phenomenal, some moves unmatched for what I have seen.
In indigenous societies he would be considered an Elder, a very noble position that garners the highest respect within the clan. Elders in our teared society should be considered with the highest regard also as they hold the experience and share their knowledge and story, providing guidance leading by example. (Okay he turns up at the last minute for events, ha!) But when he’s there, the new ones entering the sport can surely benefit from his virtues, his inspiring examples of humbleness, graciousness in defeat and in winning too.
The emphasis should be on community where the support base is intact, as an extreme example: 3 year olds cannot learn from other 3 year olds, that’s why the school system of same age kids isn’t a good system, People need variety for a quality and richness of life for a balanced advancement of the developing young guns. The differing ages participating in the WSL is a good thing for mentoring and should be respected and appreciated so attitudes are kept in check and things don’t go off the rails. No doubt Kelly gets inspiration from the young men and women surfers too, which in turn keeps the dynamic alive.
tbb agrees with the crew, all saw straight thru Elo's Old Maid Pair.
swellnet crew trumped both wildcard claims...think you'll find that pot is ours Kelly!
9th April GOAT's #1 Wildcard
https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-dispatch/2023/02/24/slater-retire...
23rd April GOAT's Red Ring Reefer Madness! Oh...The carnage! Look away gromz!
https://www.swellnet.com/news/form-guide/2023/04/22/margaret-river-pro-d...
24th April Le Defay Blue Ring Wildcard
https://www.swellnet.com/news/form-guide/2023/04/23/margaret-river-pro-d...
Italo got a low ball score on that insane left hand air at margs cos he wouldn’t rim the hole.
Kelly knows how to rim the hole.
See what he gets.
You gotta rim the hole.
Bex anyone?
i rimmed a hole once in a brothel of a very attractive and very fun Thai girl and heard laughter...asked are there people next door and she was straight up telling me the truth people watch through that big mirror..i was spewing they didnt pay guys like me for that sort of thing.
ha ha OMG
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there were 8- 10 people in there.
Fair dinkum?
yep in my younger days at a bikie run joint somewhere i wont name where as its probably illegal having that voyeur room there.
Groundy your going to Blow some Minds when you really open up on your Podcast with Joe Rogan
Are you and Rod Cunthorpe Related ?
Of course, me and Shaney go way back. It was me that actually coined his name BackDorian, after a week in the Mentawais when him and our mate Slats couldn’t stop going the backdoor.
I thought groundy showed some great insights into KS WSL nepotism.
(had ANY sleep GS?)
Not a wink I’m tipping
Miss Ella Bella, Joondalup :: (08) 9301 2356
Looks like the brothel has closed down..And when one girl i hooked up with, i went many times but the first one i asked if i could get back entrance availability since people were following me around and people knew my car, she said no back way available but why are people following you around..I said some idiots think i was planning to rob a bank when i was just saying ""my cut" for my work wasn't enough. i wasnt getting any cash for some stuff for a friend or trimming chilllies pounds of chillies so i said to the dickhead on the phone "you rob the bank for me, ill pay you $50 and send me the millions to indonesia"....so some people thought i was a bank robber and the vietnemese girl thought i was joking about being a bank robber and pointing an imaginary gun at me laughing but i had a dead serious look on my face and she went"" get out" like we dont want cops coming here following you".
Maybe they were illigal immigrants or maybe the brothel was an illegal one...thats the first one ive seen with a voyuer room too.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cash+City+Joondalup+Pawn+Shop+(Loan,+Buy+%26+Sell)+on+Cars,+Motorbikes,+Gold,+Jewellery,+Coins,+Bullion,Tools,+Electronics,/@-31.7450852,115.7624308,121m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m11!1m2!2m1!1sJoondalup+WA+6027+brothel!3m7!1s0x2bcd535e7ad1457b:0xf639cd170788e24d!8m2!3d-31.7451963!4d115.7628599!9m1!1b1!16s%2Fg%2F11bymyq5vz
https://www.escortsandbabes.com.au/Profile/WA/Perth/Escort-Agency/Joonda...
World Slater League.
Kelly is becoming like Ali (without the Parkinson’s) lining up to get beat by his younger rivals, event after event. If he’s so addicted to the limelight then celebrity golf tournaments & reality tv should be Kelly’s arena. I admire the guy & what he has done for the sport, I was on the beach for his famous win in the ‘95 Pipe Masters, he was that far ahead of the pack at that time but I just feel like he’s damaging his legacy by not accepting that he’s just a little bit off the pace.
I’d be avoiding the crowds rather than gravitating towards them but that’s just me.
Too. much focus only on Kelly, imo. Defay is equally as underserving as was Sally last year.
Thankfully, for me, Kelly Slater getting a wildcad/one more lap of the world tour doesn't directly affect me. Thank fuck it doesn't cos it seems to stir up alot of emotion for those that it does in the above posts.
I'm just looking forward to the times i flick on a surf comp (which if Woz continues on its trajectory are getting fewer and fewer) and seeing one of the most groundbreaking surfers in history still competing.
He still rips, he still charges. And he still draws a crowd.
Full respect given to the most influential surfer of all time.
You don't know what you've got until its gone so enjoy seeing our GOAT in our lifetime.
Theyll be talking about him in 10,000 years and we were here to witness it ffs!
Geez one more year, who cares. So a couple of journeymen miss out at the expense of a once in a multi generation phenomenon taking a final lap.... Lifes not fair...or is it?
Good to see service rewarded!
I challenge anyone on this thread to say Slater hasn't benefited their own personal surfing technique and approach to wave riding in their lifetime and that we don't all owe him a debt of gratitude for how we all ride waves today and the equipment we ride them on.
Thanks Kelly Slater. Legend.
Well said Sir!
Yet for all his positive attributes, when it came to performance, he was not good enough to qualify.
Haven't seen many comments considering if KS wasnt begged to stay on tour. There is not much point being the GOAT of a sport that is a commercial disaster and falls into a financial ruin and dies. Maybe just maybe the GOAT realises this and has agreed to continue on to assist save the sport and his legacy. Otherwise he is another great surfer off making videos and detracting from the tour he has been involved with his whole life.
So many great surfers off tour, I am glad at least at this stage KS is still going to be in the mix.
For example has anyone seen the Greastest Surf film ever with MF and Mason etc. Another couple of world best surfers off tour. The reality as many have suggested is that the idea of Surfing as a commercially viable competitive sport (attracting all the worlds best surfers) just doesn't work in this current format.
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Not wanting to start a pile on but Slater is also registered to surf in the upcoming Gold Coast Challenger Series event.
Keep in mind there's only six CS events and their explicit purpose is to decide which surfers get promoted onto next year's CT. If he's already guaranteed a place, why is he there?
Getting a start at CS events is highly sought after, surfers have to qualify through the regional QS events. For instance, Australia can only send the top seven men and top four women from the QS. Last year CS fields were reduced from 96 to 80 to reduce comp time which further squeezed the ascension for kids on the rise.
Is it really necessary that he takes a place when his position is already secured?
Further, last year they had a heritage heat so if he's driven by surfing Snapper uncrowded then just put his name down for that.
He’s just a selfish prick really. Nothing more, nothing less.
How Farked is that..... !!!
me me and me , its all about meeeeee
When you cut through all of the opinions there is a real lack of integrity here if this was implicitly known early on by anybody within the circle
There are betting markets on the outcomes of heats yes? Starts to get murky when there is information that could influence the outcomes of heats, as might be the case when someone is competing (or not) for a win to make the cut.
I think that's a really good point.
Been thinking alot about the betting angle of pro surfing too lately.
There's a can of worms that hasn't yet been opened if ever i saw one.
Pro surfing must be one of the most primed sports for corruption in betting that currently exists.
When you really think about it, and how often the underdog misses out by .47 or whatever of a point, it's actually quite alarming.
Can professional surfing ever have integrity when there's subjective judging involved in alignment with large scale betting companies??
I think not.
It’s also the easiest sport to deliberately lose a heat without looking obvious.
Yes I also bet on Kelly beating LOB and lost.
Thanks Stu!
#1swellnet also earlier called / shared GOAT's Goldie Wild Card.
swellnet clocked all of them...
9th April Goat's Tour Wild Card (Above)
23rd April Goat's Goldie Wild Card
https://www.swellnet.com/news/form-guide/2023/04/22/margaret-river-pro-d...
24th April Johanne's Wild Card (Above)
Can skip all of that & tbb will link the direct source for GOAT's Goldie Wild Card.
22nd April ~ Sea of Seven :
Jack English : "Kelly will continue with a Wild Card entry at Snapper Rocks at Rainbow Bay.
Note: WSL Ditched the CT > CS mandate for 2023.
No talk of Goldie CS apart from local Southern Goldie surf sightings pre Bells / Margs comps!
So how does a Surf Photographer play the Goldie Wild Card before Kelly has it in his hand! (Wild Huh!)
https://seaofseven.com/blogs/news/surfings-great-kelly-slater-falls-off-...
Can read that tbb made light of the comment but also felt the need to share with crew as it had merit!
Kinda deep down we Goldie locals expected this one also, as Kelly is based at Palm Beach Reef Pad!
As explained...his Sydney Crash Pad is being Sold...(Palmy > The Ranch is the hot tip!)
tbb also shared his Tour itinerary with previous shitty Oz CS results...
Signs CS stickers then obligingly tanks after round 1 or 2...so long...thanx for all the Fish!
Yeah / Nah fuck tbb...he's always full of shit! GOAT to win the CS.
FFS...ya just put next weeks rent on Kelly didn't ya...OMG!
2022 CS Kelly tanked in Round 2...all know he can boss this event!
Unless!
Starkie likely tipped off Kelly that this is the Final CS Event...Win Goldie win the CS Tour!
GOAT : "Outta my way you Kooks...got one hand & my name on that CS Trophy!"
Odd thing is...Kelly is a finals surfer at Snapper & could win...few doubt that!
Still reckon he's just returning the favour for his Wild Card...
[Factcheck]
Italians were banned from Oz Entry / events when Leo won Sydney 2020 only CS Title / CS Tour
Shit Happens & Kelly is full of it! Put yer money on this being the Final CS...that's a safe bet!
Kelly should get a wild card. He is the most important and influencial surfer of all time. He is done. After this round we will never see him on the World Tour again. Professional surfing without him is going to leave a giant hole. He will be spoken about in revered tones for decades to come. What is going on in 2023 has got nothing to do with the full scope of his career. It is just a blip, which noone is going to remember. I for one am gutted that this athlete who has given so much to surfing will no longer be competing. Long live the King!
He'll get event wildcards for years if he wants them. Pipe, Teahupoo.....
And honestly, that's how it should be. That's kind of exciting.
There's been plenty of criticism of KS here including about him entering the GC Pro. Until only recently the rule has been that CT surfers needed to do at least one Cs event a year. In fact CT surfers were actively encouraged to do CS events to add to the prestige of the event. The GC Pro without any CT surfers would be considerably less of a draw card so in my opinion any criticism of KS for entering the event needs to be applied equally to other CT guys and girls as well. Given how many of them seem to be at Snapper right now there could be quite a few.
In my opinion the cut and the ramifications of it make no sense. It's brought in after only 5 events and most of those were in questionable surf quality. If you don't start well then you strike some tough heats pretty early on and the difference between 18th and 25th is generally only a single heat win. So stupid to have so many surfers on equal points going into the 5th event. Only my opinion but many surfers give years to make the CT only to get cut after 5 comps. Seems really rough to me and sounds like there are changes coming anyway.
I'm not a total KS lover but the sport will be poorer for when he's gone. From what I saw in WA he looked highly competitive and beat the world no1 as well. He certainly wasn't out surfed massively but LOB and could have taken that heat but for a fall at the end section. Seems like lots of people want to put the boot into him but I think he deserves a decent go. And as others have mentioned his turns can be really innovative and just don't get any judging recognition even though degree of difficulty and skill are right up there. The current judging obsession around the power carve in the pocket is a case in point. Italo's left and Kelly's beyond vert reo don't fit so are marked down. Reminds me a bit of AI back in the day with the rad floaters and big foam climbs. Personally I'd like to see variety given more than lip service as it's part of the criteria. So it's just my opinion but I've got no problem with KS getting a WC and more so no problem with him competing on the GC. And most of the crew have to book their schedules reasonably early then KS was probably anticipating being at Snapper. He does have a house their doesn't he?
It would have to be said that there is not and will never be a bigger comp head than Kelly - in surfing or any sport similar. It’s almost gone to a level of psychotic obsession. What normal person that had accomplished what he has accomplished would give a flying fuck about still competing? He competed against most of the commentators, who are younger than him and retired 20 years ago.
These days I would rather see Jackson Baker surf a WSL heat than Slater
We can measure GOAT power from 10-30% Cut / Finals viewer boost.
What if WSL could double the GOAT grunt.
GOAT Slater & his Ultimate Pool Boy (vs) Billy GOAT Slater & his wannabe Kellie Slater kid GOAT.
Man is that some high power White Trash VIP Wave Pool Party!
The ultimate in Daggy Dad shaming as yer Grom idolizes the wrong Hodad GOAT Slater (Bummer!)
Billy : "No son...keep sayin'...he's not yer Dad & yer not a Grom...so lose yer Yank Tank Top!"
Mick : "My Urbnsurf Footy Team ain't big enough for two GOAT Slaters!"
Billy the Kid's Grom now proudly wears Urbnsurf #1 Slater!
https://www.mazda.com.au/mazda-news/billy-and-the-kid/
8th May 2023 CT Immortal Kelly flicks outta CS Goldie Slums
Aloha Hawaii...Wai Kai...go with the flow!
11th May 2023 Wave Pool Immortal transforms as EU Flow Tour Immortal Pin Up.
Wai Kai ~ City Wave Test Pilot for Shane Beschen Surf Academy.
Kelly can build up his leg muscles faster on Freshwater Flow to Surf his Ranch.
Kelly's Wave Pool Nite Life Safari kicks on!
https://atthelineup.com/wai-kai-surf-wave-oahu/