Perth's First Wave Pool One Step Closer
Global surf park developer Aventuur has today been announced by the Western Australian Government as the preferred proponent to deliver an integrated surf park development in Perth.
The next-generation $80 million surf park will be the largest in the Southern Hemisphere, sitting on a 5.7-hectare site at Prinsep Road in Jandakot, adjacent to the Kwinana Freeway and the Cockburn Train Station.
Featuring a Wavegarden ‘Cove’ surfing lagoon, boutique surf hotel, health and wellness centre, co-working offices, functions and events spaces, performance academy, beach club and restaurants, the integrated development will provide Perth with an innovative surf sports, recreation, leisure and entertainment hub just a short drive south from the CBD.
The company’s experienced delivery team is headed up by Perth-based Andrew Ross, Aventuur’s Chairman and Chief Development Officer. Andrew is the Founder and former Executive Chairman of the company that developed Australia’s first surf park in Melbourne, which also features Wavegarden ‘Cove’ technology.
Aventuur will now work collaboratively with the Western Australian Government to finalise all commercial arrangements, including agreeing a long-term ground lease over the site.
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Utterly sickening. I note no author to this? Copy paste news release? Or is it no Swellnet staff want their name associated with this gratuitous plug?
That the surfing community either supports projects like this abomination, or at best stay silent is a blight on our demographic. That organisations like Swellnet act like a conduit to promote this planet wrecking carbon chugging trash without any questions is a sign of how bad the "surfing lifestyle" has become.
We were once champions of the earth. We were looked at by the mainstream as leaders in promoting sustanability, and protecting the planet. With bullshit like this, we've become everything we despised back in the days of Tracks magazine, morning of the earth, and aloha spirit.
"Generation involves the conversion of a fuel source into electricity. In Western Australia, the majority of electricity is generated using coal and gas". - https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/energy-policy-wa/electricity-industry
Every wave caught at this joke of a place should have a carbon rating.
R.I.P surfers. Hello surfies.
You might deem it a gratuitous plug, on the other hand we're providing a platform for the project to be discussed at length by the surf community. Something that can't be found anywhere else.
Like Ben said, If Swellnet didn't put this issue up here to discuss then you wouldn't have had a chance to vent your vehement opposition to all things un-pure. I can't see how this is a promotional article as all it does is raise the issue for discussion. [and there will for sure be plenty of that] There is no editorial bias whatsoever as far as I can see. Like the old saying goes, "Don't shoot the messenger"
didn't pass my mind and i guess alot of others that there is a negative of carbon footprints for each surfer riding 1 wave. That would be a mind blowing amount of gross waves ridden in 1 working day. For some + flight + petrol + food (protein), Your carbon print per person would be handy to know. Will we see solar, wind, maybe geothermal area. hey no heating the pool with geothermal its free, GT could make all the power required. I think they need to think it out better, get advantages outweighing the disadvantages and get it sustainable 1st, then look at the money making greedy stuff, we might all feel a bit better about it. Local council wave pools would be my ideal dream set up would be sustainable non for profit government funded, local council managed. Like our nationwide public pool infrastructure. It could be one and the same owned by the public in a perfect world some might say.
That's an interesting idea having wave pools owned by local councils or something similar. I agree with that notion and might even be refreshing to have a wave pool with the usual council insignia Scattered around 'no diving, no dropping in etc' instead of the surf brands putting their shitty slogans all over the place. Perhaps as the technology evolves we might see a financially sustainable product availability to the public sector.. that would be awesome and something I see happening in maybe 20-30years. It would be hypocritical for any west Australian gov to try to make something like this sustainable.. I mean look at mining.. I can't think of anything worse for the environment? I think the general consensus in WA would have to be for mining so I reckon not too many would bat an eyelid at a project like this. Could be wrong
Hey Sheepdog, quick search using the first sentence will show you this is more 'press release' than promo plug. That said, I'm 100% for your right to vent your opposition to said developments. Just don't shoot the messenger, hey?
Just as a, ah, point of order ... this bit of your comment has me perplexed:
"We were once champions of the earth. We were looked at by the mainstream as leaders in promoting sustanability, and protecting the planet."
Really?
Surf travel, by car, plane, etc ... using fossil fuels?
Our equipment, laced with petro-chemical based products, environmentally friendly?
I doubt the surfing community has 'sustainability cred' with a history of using fossil fuels for our lifestyle.
Sure, the hipster marketing hype might like to push the perception, but reality is far from being good to mother nature.
As for wave pools and their enormous use of water and power, well, no question as to their environmental credential or lack thereof. But, then again, theme parks have been consumed by the mass population for years.
It is easy to jump to conclusions - truth is the electricity to drive a surf park like this can come from renewables. The URBNSUF park in Melbourne is powered by green energy which is generated in Tasmania and I am sure the Perth facility will also be 100% renewable in the future. Reality is the whole surfing culture is directly connected to CO2. The production of surfboards creates on average 220,000 tonnes of CO2 per year, according to Rick Lomax from Surf Science. Lomax says that an average polyester resin 6'1″ shortboard has a carbon footprint of 400lbs CO2 emissions and an epoxy 9'1″ longboard around 1,000 lbs CO2 emissions. So pride in an extensive board quiver is one thing but the CO2 involved is another inconvenient truth. There is understandably great resistance by board manufactures to protect their industry against algae 3d printed boards which have recently been developed and have a tiny CO2 foot print. Part of the modeling by surf parks takes into account the reduction in the fruitless driving done by surfers up and down coastlines searching for waves that will never come over the horizon. I have used the wave park in Melbourne many times and as I now live someway from the ocean, it certainly saves driving Kms. Sure it is not the ocean and the experience is different, but one is guaranteed waves without the uncertainty of drive miles. At 69 I am also guaranteed a wave when it is my turn in the line up. Something that never happens on a crowded day at a good spot.
Then there is the overseas search for waves (pre and post covid) which somehow many surfers forget does have a heavy C02 foot print. There are many other factors like CO2 in wetsuit manufacture, microfibres from wet suits and board foam from shaping, sun blocks. that affect the environment we cherish - the list goes on.
We now live in a complicated world which is not as simple as a historical Hawaiian board carved from wood surfed at the local break as the ancient legends did.
Let's not forget the environmental impacts of "renewable" hydro generation, shall we?
You don't build dams and alter water flows without having a god-awful impact on both terrestrial and aquatic systems. The damage wrought on the Tasmanian landscape by hydro is well-documented and generally glossed over due to the single issue of carbon. River valleys flooded, some waterways starved of flow and others inundated, timing of flows to suit a commercial return rather than the ecology.
And don't get me started on the introduced trout and salmon that now butcher the ecology of those Tassie waterways.
Rubbish. Hydro has been great for Tassie. Flooding a few places has been beneficial. I go to Strathgordon every year and stay at the wilderness lodge Apart from a few transmission lines the area looks untouched. Fish farms are fine too. It creates 1 billion dollars per year for our government and provides jobs for many thousands of people. Go down to the Huon (provided you actually live in this state) and see what jobs they have on offer after they leave school - 40 percent youth unemployment. The salmon industry provides for many. So many wowsers jumped on the bandwagon in recent years many who don’t live in the affected areas.
I didn't realise you needed to live in a place to be able to see the wood for the trees, haggis. But I do know from years of experience that it's the first card played by people in denial and/or threatened by outsiders.
I wasn't saying hydro didn't have its benefits. But to call it green power is misleading as it neglects its un-green impacts. And to only think the impacts extend to a few transmission lines, well, I can't work out why you're not in charge of Tourism Tasmania.
But when you started conflating hydro and salmon I knew you were really clutching at straws.
Luckily no one listens to you
Ok, you win, I've got nothing....
lloydgodman and Wingnut (above) , as a 62 you Melbourne surfer who also hits UrbnSurf because of the convenience and reliability, you are both spot on with your views around this topic!
I reckon it will be great. Haters gonna hate. Looking forward to getting over to Melbourne and having a go at the Tulla tub in December if it is open. Get vaxxed people so we can move freely between states. Hope you don’t drive a car sheepdog or been on a plane or ever owned a PU board.
I'll be frothing to hand over some money to try something new with my mates.
Looks so fun.
Excellent. Can't wait.
I'm only staying in the hotel if it has ocean views...said the misses
About time WA got a step closer to a wave pool. As for the green credentials. That a farce either anyway.
BTW. Cockburn vs Melville bowling clubs have a staunch competition against each other.
Cockburn a much better area to have this.. ahem.. monstrosity of a complex.
Can someone please explain what a 'wellness centre' is and what happens there?
First aid post?
You give someone your money. and they give you nothing in return.
But they do make you feel OK about parting with your money.
Excluding Rotto, a decent wave pool would not have to try hard to be Perth best wave.
Most Perth surfers of ability escape north and south at any chance for a decent wave so if this keeps a percentage in Perth there is also a reduced carbon footprint there. Of course not enough to offset running this pool.
But yes this is purely business supply and demand, I cant see it failing as the demand is there and the punters have the money.
ill try ity
A boutique surf hotel playing the beach boys and a Performance academy! I am in.
In the event this causes more comments regarding sustainability, I couldn't give 2 f@#ks.
Perth surfers need a place to surf when the ocean doesn't provide for them and a place for all the kooks to play on the very occasional time it does.
As for sustainability most of it is BS feel good crap that until the world makes wholesale changes impact from a surf park are irrelevant.
Isn't the term Perth surfer an oxymoron?
If a city has no surf, is there such a thing as a Perth surfer?
@channel-bottom, hahahaha, from experience Perth has the second best "Capital city" waves in the country to Sydney and a lot more punch to those waves.
The wave pool will be a perfect solution though to the summer flatness we get
I reckon Hobart has better waves than Perth
@channel-bottom, hahahaha, from experience Perth has the second best "Capital city" waves in the country to Sydney and a lot more punch to those waves.
The wave pool will be a perfect solution though to the summer flatness we get
More of a foam-frolic than surfing here to be honest.
I would have liked to see it in Alfred Cove, the area where crew poisoned trees so they could have more river views to their property...
Good point VJ. I'd have to agree with you on that one.
Garden area with a lawn atop the hotel roof and plants around first aid post ( wellness centre) would appear most eco friendly and appropriate in Alfred Cove.
Topless BMW's and SUV's pulling into pools carpark would look pretty cool with boards poking out.
Annual membership income would be a dead set guarantee to keep most running costs covered.
The mayor of the time had no backbone to stand up to those few making noises.
Agree the first location would have been epic, sooo close to home for me.
Will you have to quarantine before or after if you visit from another state or both? Or can you just not go? What country will be Perth be part of by the time this is finished? Will I need a Covid passport and international passport? How many days drive is Perth from Australia?
Yes
When are we going 2 see a Webber pool
51 investors are asking the same thing.
In terms of either neutral or positive impact on surf crowds for WA, the Perth location is a good one. A lot of froth will be taken out of locals who may be less inclined drive south or north so often after getting a session.
Those who learn in the pool will be more than a little wary of dangling their legs in GW territory in the ocean. So the spill over effect should not be that high.
Many newbies might get their fill and even say - "been there done that" about surfing given the sameness of the pool after a season or two and fade out of the sport.
All speculation of course.
Awesome news.
Perth is a great location for it.
Lot sunnier and warmer than Melbourne.
And pretty average surf along much of the CBD coast.
Not green enough, better than just another block of apartments going up which is about the limit of city planners imagination.
Well done to all involved.
swellnet have long provided ample forum for the politics & histrionics of the deal...
Including the protests for / against.
Other WA Wave Pools
1999 Bayswater Waves (Opens)
2015 Subi Wave Lagoon (bid)
2017 Melville Wave Garden (bid)
2018 Joondalup Aloha Surfhouse (Opens)
2018 Mandurah Surf Lakes (bid)
https://www.perthnow.com.au/community-news/mandurah-coastal-times/exclus...
2019/2020 - New WA Wave Pool sites were examined...(Stirling / Jandakot) plans.
2021 Stirling Wave Garden (bid)
https://www.perthnow.com.au/community-news/stirling-times/stirling-counc...
Jandakot Cockburn Site History...
https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-dispatch/2019/03/28/perth-wave-po...
Important : WA Govt led the charge for Wave Pool...
So what you read here, was initiated as Govt process & likely has their full backing...
Sure! It reads suss, but was always gonna be that way on an Interurban Central site.
State Govt rail site (Crown Land) : Would usually require 2 or more tenders...
Stop & think! How many in Oz could step up for CBD Wave Pool site?
Noting! Best advantage is a Local Mob having runs on the board...(A working Model)
Naturally! If only one Wave Pool Model exists then it needs to split into 2 bids to fast track the deal.
Yes! Ok...so 2 like bidders had 2 bob each way & neither could lose...
Yes! Mates could also upzone each other's bids...from municipal to Deluxe Downtown Jox Sports Rort.
But! It's hardly a cartel...& any insider trading was done openly & by top end brass...no civic massage.
Most importantly of all...WA Govt had long promised a site & to also facilitate any planning issues...
tbb is not implying anything untoward as Govt were pulling the strings & Hoverboarding White Boards.
Likely that Govt insisted for Players to bankroll 2 models to upzone their site...Win! Win!
Most of all, it was open friendly warfare with all the credit cards on the table...
Every State was runnin' Wave Pool models as #1 Covid Cocoon Recovery...(bonus) $2m Gold Spades.
Rubber tree seedling still hadn't even been watered when Downtown Wave Pool was rubber stamped.
Govt Rail Station sites are zoned for high density...therefore, Wave Pool proposal needed to Upzone.
A municipal (Only) Wave Pool would've been knocked back without ( Squishy Green footprint )
Crew can see that any central interurban City Rail Site needs to step up & go Full Monty.
Govt's often blow $30-$100m on these Rail site money pits...gotta think of that flipside!
Wave Pool Jock Block Shock squares up the Concrete Gromz...
Exactly what Wave Pool Mums ordered... just with a few more stickerz flappin' about.
If crew wish for Bells & Whistles Promo...tbb was even blown away by their craftiness...
https://wavepoolmag.com/the-battle-for-perth-part-one-aventuur-and-the-c...
https://wavepoolmag.com/the-battle-for-perth-part-two-urbnsurf-and-endle...
Of Course the crew gets a Bottom Line : Here's what Jandakot missed out on...
Endless Surf Model...
Renewable Energy Contracts / Solar Panels
Local manufacture & install / service
40% less water eco version...
Also the Working parts are above the waterline...no need to drain pool each service to maintain.
Bigger waves & Twice as long rides (160m x 26sec')
Mix'n'match A-Frame / end2end / Point breaks running alternate L/R profiles.
Disappointing about the wave quality if true
You want "green" and "environment" issues plenty of gas projects to look at and surf industry travel and products.
Let the people have a little fun ah
what about the pool on the sunny coast, is that still happening, perfect place to put one,
Sunny Coast Wave pools are still in play Benjis Babe
Sunny Proposal #3 Endless Wave Comp Pool / Stage / Bar
SANAD has Comp Transit Approved...(Can access Wave Pool separate or thru Water Park)
Sunny Proposal #5 Ranch - Blue Heart Attack...(WSL Remain Committed)
April 2021: State Govt Environment Assessment...(Company haven't Listed any Govt application)
Sunny Proposal #7 AWM ( Upscale Waco Comp Model - Bikini Pool Party / Urban Tapas Bar)
Glass House Mountains Wave Pool is a choice site but needed a squeezy Comp Transit Upgrade
They only just handed in final plans & made a fair go of it...hangs on Entry-interchange compliance.
tbb reckons #3 + #7 will get the nod > mostly as they stick to the Goldie Wave Pools [M1] Formula.
No one wants or can afford #5...least of all the Blue Heart.
Goldie Proposal #7 Endless Wave Comp Jock Pool...nothing about layout theme yet!
Parkwood Golf Jocks Pool is reviewing Consult Stage...(Already has the Mayor's backing)
This site has long been Rubber Stamped for Multi Sports Rort Resort!
Goldie soft White Shoe shuffle will fast track Golf Course Wave Pool to open first!
This site is least accessible...should be able to swing Comp buses though.
13th Sept : WA / Ranch / Goldie Pools
https://www.theurbandeveloper.com/articles/southern-hemispheres-biggest-...
Other Qldurrz to watch- Port Douglas + Gladstone + Yeppoon (Surf Lakes) Public Pool.
Lots of pungers just off Metro beaches.
Will a passport be necessary to travel to Perth or will there be a full Visa Application required in Mark McGowan's new state ?
pretty sure wa has quite a substantial amount of ocean, this is a joke and a spit in society's face to think this should take priory over say a hospital aged care.
metro coast putting out same wave most days fucken waste of money
Update installation...standard procedure for these unclaimed swellnet forums...
12 Sept 2021 Perth Surf Park Supporters...updated their site to include this news.
https://www.facebook.com/perthsurfparksupporters/?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDo...
1982 Local Theme Park
Adventure World Water Park + Tidal Wave ride.
Adventure Wave Park > Aventuur Wave Park (Doesn't sound so foreign after all!)
Do we need to ask do they got a website yet...& if so...could we include that in this site upgrade.
https://www.aventuur.com/perth
Any Plans for this site or at least a layout or something...(re: 15 March 2021)
https://img.findperth.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/23220815/1016324060...
No wide central Boardwalk...sticking with the slipway + Skate / Stage & Lawns
Wotz unusual...lots of bus bays [P] are indicated within Wave Park...
Bordering / Partnering the Train Station for Inter/national Comp / Teams compliance.
Wave Park Entry + Rail + [P] + Bus Bays also works in well for local grom access.
Possibly State owned & run Utility but partnership required for international Events approval.
Qld / Sunny wavepools needed similar Bus access [P] (vs) Urbnsurf use Airport precinct utilities.
Can we get a look at what the waves will be like...(Yep! Oddly we can do that!)
2nd April 2022 [f] Wavegarden Site
Perth 6 pack of Left handed Barrels...Demo only!
(One of the best wave pool Vidz... features 5 Korean surfers combo 5 wave train barrels)
Your wave pool models are > Naturals 1 Hans > 2 Kai > Goofs 3 Seol > 4 Julen > 5 Eneko
https://www.facebook.com/Wavegarden/?hc_ref=ART9-vmzaqyLNFtI-iIDscIjWBkH...
Wavegarden : "Perth Surf Park has the same pistons for the exact same 6 pack kegz!"
That's a pretty good look at your Jandakot Left Bank firing on all cylinders!
Not a lot of news, but as said it was just a timely upgrade.
https://consultation.epa.wa.gov.au/seven-day-comment-on-referrals/perth-...