Sunshine Coast to get first KSWC wavepool

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Stu Nettle (stunet)
Swellnet Dispatch

It's been whispered about for months, with the odd hint dropped here and there, but only now comes confirmation that the Sunshine Coast will get Australia's first Kelly Slater Wave Company (KSWC) wavepool.

Just over a year ago, ex-Surfing Australia CEO Andrew Stark joined KSWC as head of operations in Australia and Oceania. Stark told the Sunshine Coast Daily that the location was a natural fit for a wavepool, "due to Australia's culture, history and roots within surfing as well as its pristine beaches and commitment to environmental sustainability".

"We are committed to working with those in the local area, and over coming weeks we will be talking to the community to explain the concept as well as listening to local perspectives."

Stark said the wavepool would anchor a broader tourism development district that could provide significant economic stimulus and job creation.

He said the project would include the development of an eco-lodge, event and training facilities, tourism accommodation, public open space and an environmental experience centre.

The Sunshine Coast Daily says the pool could cost up to $100 million and be a jobs boom for the region.

While the exact location hasn't been confirmed, it's expected the wavepool will be attached to the proposed Coolum sporting facilities.

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bukz Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 9:08am

I thought Kelly's pool was far from being a commercially viable option?

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offshoreozzie Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 9:15am

So did I.... ok at $50k a day for the corps but not for the common folk... hmmm

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PeteH Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 9:16am

So they have to put in an "environmental experience centre" to try to sell its green merits! How much power and emissions would the complex put out per day when running at max capacity! Hypocritical to say the least. Seems to be that anything that is detrimental to the environment is OK as long as it creates jobs and income. Now surfing is being exploited the same way. Sad days.

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Feralkook Saturday, 28 Sep 2019 at 8:19am

As long as the profits and damage is done in a "sustainable" manner that is ok.
I am sure yourself and I am betting TBB will enjoy this page.
http://www.wrongkindofgreen.org/2019/01/17/the-manufacturing-of-greta-th...

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wax-on-danielson Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 9:24am

It sounds like a surfing version of Disneyland; Get to Kelly’s wave, spend half an hour parking, pay $25 to ride a wave, line up for 2.5 hours for your turn, finally get your turn, paddle, stand up, oh my god it’s Kelly’s wave I’m so excited what should I do hit it or barrel oh my god I don’t know what to do I’m so excited - barrel-lip-hit, catch rail, splash. Next!
Back to the start of line and don’t forget to pay again.

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t-diddy Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 6:16pm

spot on I suspect except the price is $76.84 per ride

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garyg1412 Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 9:27am

Gotta love the old Eco-Lodge - always gives your planning application better credentials.

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Agitator Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 9:29am

Fuck off ! ...at 50K a day good luck any of us regular skrubs getting a wave in that stagnant pond, corporate cunts fuck off !

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udo Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 9:37am

Its just over 80 K per day in aussie dollars

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Nick Bone Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 9:41am

Stu,

“Inconsistency fixed! But it will come at a cost.”

That byline meaning more waves or less quality? Or something else?

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stunet Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 9:42am

Sunny Coast ain't known for consistent swell, three month flat spells and the like, but this will fix that.

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Sprout Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 11:32am

I'd rather have the flat spells keeping tourists/surfers away than this thing dragging them in.

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mowgli Monday, 30 Sep 2019 at 11:29am

I don’t mind ‘em ay. A couple of winters ago I think it only got above waist high once or twice. The missus and I had a hoot out there on the longboards without a soul around. Clear skies and water, no wind, as many waves as we wanted. Meanwhile all these people pulling up for 5 seconds…see it’s small…go to work early.

Always astounded me how many people only have a thruster-only quiver. So many days of enjoyment being missed. I ride my fish up here probably 60% of the time. The rest is a mix of thruster, longboard and occasional singlefin.

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soggydog Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 9:43am

And then there is the issue of water......probably not the wisest use of that resource.

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wally Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 9:45am

I wonder how confirmed is this confirmation. Do they have the land, development approval and their funds committed?
Or, is it confirming the KSWC’s desire to possibly build it if they are given land, govt approval and a range of very generous fees and charges exemptions?

“Jobs boom!”.
Gee whiz, how many people does it take to build and run a large pool with a computer driven tractor running up the side?

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Vic Local Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 8:23pm

You can hardly blame KSWC for trying to put one over the Queensland government. They fell hook line and sinker for Adani's bullshit jobs predictions and heaved a bunch of money and concessions at that fucking disastrous project.

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Thegrowingtrend.com Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 9:47am

I think the airports have some water to give away?

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Sprout Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 11:30am

Zing!

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benjis babe Saturday, 28 Sep 2019 at 4:20pm

haha better be quick, that liquid gold is going to be scarce soon. I think Jason o'pray is going to drink it all.

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sacash Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 9:50am

Whats the latest on surf lakes seems to have gone quiet recently

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Bargie Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 9:51am

Lot of pessimistic commenting ... hopefully it might be a different business model and many of the "little" people might get to use it? And it environmental impact on the Sunshine coast? Really?

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rooftop Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 10:07am

So Australia's "Pristine beaches and commitment to environmental sustainability" are why we need a wave pool?

Surely they're the exact reasons we don't need one.

Such lazy greenwashing.

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hillsintas Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 10:08am

This sceptic needs to see "the paperwork".

Australian Red Tape can put a choke hold & speed hump on any progress.

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AndyM Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 10:17am

On a hot day in Lemoore, more than 1,000,000 (one million) litres of water can evaporate from the tank.

That's the equivalent of a small town's water requirements, just in evaporation.

Hope the Sunny Coast and other places are ready for this sort of pressure on their water supply.

An eco lodge and an environmental experience centre?

Satire?

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Bustard Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 11:17am

Drop in the ocean....literally.

Australia Fed Gov ( or nominated bodies) issue annual water rites to the tune of 40,000 Gigalitres. ( 80 Sydney Harbours ) ..10 % of which are foreign owned....2/3 is used for Agriculture, 25% for mining

anyways...some unsueful information

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AndyM Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 11:42am

Not worth worrying about?

You've highlighted where this cavalier attitude to fresh water has got us.

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Bustard Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 11:46am

Its a concern mate, no doubt, just when we start talking water, scale can easily get lost - and I was being a bit tounge in cheak with the drop in the ocean....

Maybe too many years dealing with the cotton farms of NW NSW.....Most dams up there dwarf kelly's pond.....but we still Purchase our 1000 thread count sheets.

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truebluebasher Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 9:10pm

Bustard has a point...but AndyM is also onto it!
Top 5 Water wasters
1)Angus 2)Cubbie 3)Kelly 4)Fukushima 5)Kelly's Golf Course

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sandcrab Monday, 30 Sep 2019 at 6:32pm

Can the wave pool use salt water?

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jherro1 Sunday, 29 Sep 2019 at 9:59pm

Seriously??? this is an irrelevant alarmist fact.
If the water wasn’t in Kelly’s wave pool, it would simply be in a dam up the road evaporating at a similar rate.
What next? Campaign to ban swimming pools?

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The Shaper Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 10:31am

Never ceases to amaze me how these and others can make such bold press releases based on absolutely nothing, although its easy to see why they do it.......suck people in to investing, put pressure on council, keeps their middle manager jobs looking like they are actually doing something..... The scoop is the Webber pool was knocked back in the same area because they needed town water, a resource that is becoming increasingly scarce and more valuable. So what has changed? Nothing i dare say. Although there is tax money awash for those riding the Olympic wave........One thing for sure they are not going to repeat the Florida mistake of buying the land before they know they can proceed. So my guess based on the Webber proposal is they have nothing and are simply floating ideas in meetings with council. ...........and if it does get up anyone who thinks the investors might actually favour their $100 for few quick waves after work, over the corporate mega market would be just as delusional.

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Surf Ads Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 10:42am

This is such a 'my dad says we should just turn the rivers backwards to make Australia green' comment... but... why not just build it close to the ocean and plug it in there? Like a local oceanside baths? One thing the world isn't short on is seawater.

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epictard Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 10:57am

Throw a desalination plant in between the ocean and the pool. Seawater would be too corrosive to use directly.

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truebluebasher Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 9:02pm

You swellnetonians are too bloody smart for yer own good...
Get rid of the PFAS 'n' all.
https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/desalination-plant-being-prop...

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brownie48 Saturday, 28 Sep 2019 at 3:49pm

Yes and there is a place where you could do that and it has land available but the people who own it are environmental rapists

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savanova Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 11:04am

My thoughts exactly. The experience would be even more realistic. They could even use the second pool as a aqua farm to feed the masses visiting.

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udo Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 11:05am

Yep build cost and Maintenance costs to use Saltwater would be out of this world

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velocityjohnno Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 11:17am

Is it going in near Maroochy airport? They have spare water.

Jokes aside, placing a venue where high performance surfing can be coached on a repetitive canvas on a coast which does get good waves and has surfing talent, is a pretty good idea. With this tool you could AIS it (Australian Institute of Sport - no shortage of funding for gold!) Might as well.

If you think it will cost a lot for not much gain, didn't Sydney want to revamp/replace a stadium that was built as recently as the Sydney Olympics? In exactly the same place for exactly the same function?

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Terminal Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 11:48am

Jokes aside, if the water they want to discharge at Mudjimba is so safe, why don't they use it in the hot tub?

Funnily enough, it looks like it's gonna be blowing NE when they start pumping, doesn't the Councillor who signed off on this, what's his name, live in Caloundra? Ahhh, sometimes the universe just hands you one for free...

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velocityjohnno Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 1:02pm

Poor Cotton Tree :(

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Terminal Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 2:21pm

Lol, I'd be more worried about what comes from upstream Maroochy river at cotton tree rather than up the beach....

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 28 Sep 2019 at 11:02am

So sad! Grandad's cane farm used to adjoin the Maroochy further up, when it was cleaner... Some of my childhood was running up the beach to the rock outcrop (now located north of the rivermouth) and playing up there. Inside the rivermouth the tidal flats were thick with those little colourful solider crabs, like a carpet of them, that would bury themselves as you walked past, and re-emerge as you went on. In the sunset light it looked incredible.

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freeride76 Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 11:18am

"We are committed to working with those in the local area, and over coming weeks we will be talking to the community to explain the concept as well as listening to local perspectives."

Anticipating a local backlash?

Whats to explain?

Who will pay for it and who gets to use it and for how much is all that really matters apart from the power/water/environmental impact questions.

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Terminal Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 11:53am

In that order too

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Terminal Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 11:27am

I thought they were planning to build a Webber pool on Steve Irwin Way? Agree with above, highly unlikely this will happen in the short-term. It will turn over $$$, however, once Irukandji are common during summer in the Sunshine Coast with warmer waters in the future, sleeping giant there that will be devastating for the SC tourism industry (their primary one).

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Sprout Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 11:33am

Hopefully council get greedy again and it gets shit-canned just like that one!

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mowgli Monday, 30 Sep 2019 at 11:35am

Nope. Healthcare & Construction largest employers by a long way.

https://economy.id.com.au/sunshine-coast/employment-by-industry

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radiationrules Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 11:34am

I don't understand why everyone is so negative. I do agree that the inefficient use of water is/will become an issue for all of us, across all aspects of our life...but as far as wave pools go...its a bit like the greyhound races or the casino, I would call both a trip to the gutter, but hey people enjoy it, so it doesn't affect me, so I don't need to judge it. My hope is all of the wave pool activities create test labs for designing pieces of rock that can be added to the local bathymetics at a myriad of breaks around Australia; thereby improving natural wave quality and dispersing the crowds. I also hope these additions to natures design, enhance and don't destroy the natural enviornment - indeed that's a pre-requesite. Imagine your local council approving a wave enhancement project in your backyard, which is replicating a process that has been proven in 100 locations around Australia, and is therefore commoditised and of low cost? Utopia? Maybe - but science and art need to be friends - that's where we, as a society, are off-piste with a lot of our ideas (in my opinion). Better shaped waves in the real ocean is exciting to me. I perceive that to be a realistic off-take from the wave pool industry.

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mg7 Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 12:56pm

Well said. So many breaks around Oz could do with removal of a suck rock or a few added rocks without destroying the existing natural ecosystems and environment. Much more environmentally friendly and low cost then artificial wave pools or new artificial reefs.

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truebluebasher Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 11:56pm
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freeride76 Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 2:22pm

I admire your optimism RR, but I doubt that would ever happen.

Wavepools are essentially boat wakes and bathymetry is nowhere near as important as the real world shoreline.

The bigger obstacle would be commercial facilities sticking rocks down to try and model vastly more complex real world environments.

I'd say highly unlikely.

I love the vision though and would love to see artificial reefs getting built.

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Sprout Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 11:35am

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Mr Stark said the Coast's surf ranch would cost more than one billion dollars and will create more than 10,000 jobs.
World Surf League and a development partner have earmarked a large parcel of land close to the Sunshine Motorway at Coolum.
Other possible site locations included Landsborough, Maroochydore and Marcoola.
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thermalben Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 1:11pm

Billion with a capital B?

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thermalben Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 1:23pm

Ah yes, I forgot! Any number sourced from the WSL is an order of magnitude higher than it actually is.

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Sprout Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 2:06pm

Hahaha all the orders.
The headline being, "Coast’s $1.1 billion Surf Ranch site location revealed"

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thermalben Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 2:29pm

Interesting. I wonder if the headline number matters - for government/council negotiation, branding or otherwise? For example, if I said Swellnet cost $25m per year to run (when it clearly does not), would it matter?

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Sprout Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 4:38pm

*25.1
But no.
Perhaps it's 1.1billion added to the economy in total, from additional tourists visiting the wave pool and surrounds, for the next 100 years.

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savanova Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 1:25pm

What does Iron Man know about surfing? Maybe he could ask Thor for some tips. Qland loves a good theme park. Awesome idea UV reflecting full body lycra surf suits designed to look like the Marvel hero's to be worn while surfing.

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donweather Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 1:42pm

No way in hell it would cost $1billion AUD to build that thing.

I'm even questioning the $100million price tag.

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kaiser Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 7:50pm

Could go close once CFMEU run their eye over it

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Gra Murdoch Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 12:14pm

What exactly is an eco-lodge anyway?

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velocityjohnno Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 1:22pm

https://adventure.howstuffworks.com/ecolodge.htm

If I'm reading it right, when you stay there you will be helping the Sunshine Coast Community, and you will get to participate in Community Service.

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garyg1412 Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 1:32pm

It's the same as an energy drink - pure marketing bullshit!!!
Best ones are the eco-lodges with a golf course or two attached to them..

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Lanky Dean Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 9:55pm

Didn't you build one in indo?

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Gra Murdoch Saturday, 28 Sep 2019 at 6:12am

Nah too much diesel and packaging. Hey LD if ever ya wanna connect for a yak or DM let us know.

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udo Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 12:23pm

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Lanky Dean Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 1:50pm

Please explain . ?

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truebluebasher Saturday, 28 Sep 2019 at 12:20pm

Sunny Coast Kelly's WSL Olympic Timeline

Phase 1

1992 Sunny Coast couple Al & Jenny tour Fiji & invite Grom Kelly & Mum to stay.
Note Kelly's 1st Title coincided with Sunny Coast Couple

2004 Surfing Qld Sunny Base 'Porto' was dumped for "GC Burleigh Point WSL home
Porto was Godfather Of Qld [L] surfschools..SA Boss Stark feeds cash into Sunny [L]
This becomes the basis of a long term ...You Owe Sunny Coast Big Time Thang!

2006 Kelly & Mum return visit Al & Jenny. Steve Irwin guides Darren Mercer Golf Day.

2014 Webber Wave Pool has Porto frothin at year round waves, a gift for learners.
Surfing Australia letter of Support for Sunshine Coast Wavepool on Steve Irwin Way.
Pool is also backed by Ziff as a Qld leg on (New) WSL tour
2015 Kelly returns to Noosa to check on progress
2016 Donates (Charity) Jersey to Pro Dimity c/o The Boardroom (Surf Museum)
2016 Local Pro JW invests into Sunshine Park Wave Pool
In bed with a Horse Shed Nightmare.(Pony Express Crashes Wave Pool Party)
Lead a horse to a Wave Pool but can't make him Surf it!
2016 Rebrands as ACTIVENTURE Olympic wave pool Training Facility
2018 Resorts all switch to Eco Villages to scoop Qld Tourism Handouts (Camp Bindi)
2018 Qld Tourism MP Kate left bathing the Sunshine Park Baby?
https://www.sanadcapital.com.au/post/actventure-set-to-encompass-queensl...

Phase 1 (Bonus swellnet exclusive) Original Sunshine Coast Wave Pool Timeline
https://www.swellnet.com/comment/600315

*2nd thoughts
2018 WSL scouted for wavepool sites on North GC & Logan then Gold Coast Airport

Phase 2

Sunny Coast Mayor Mark Jamieson (Boss of 3rd Tier Oz Govt rate scams!)
Vice Patron of SLSQ / Maroochydore SLSC + #1 Qld Olympic Powerbroker

Sunny Coast- Dumped Qld HQ + Ripped off WSL Pros + Dead WSL Wave Pool
Sunny Coast Payola
2018 WSL Grom Trials
2019 WSL Long Board Tour on back of Sunny Coast Festival
2019 SA Bugz / WSL Stark drum up Challenger Series (Sunny Coast upgrade?)
2019 Mayor's SLSQ bid for Aussies + Olympic Sport showcase inclusion

Mayor is also on LGIA board (3rd tier Local Government pension plan scam)
Sunny Coast Light Rail to Uni >[+] > Airport feeds into Mayor's retirement fund.
Sunshine Coast Light Rail ('we said no!') re: Utopia episode 5 'The Blame Game')
https://iview.abc.net.au/show/utopia
Anything on Sunny Coast's Airport Radar scans on Mayor's checkout.

July SC Airport (22ML) remediation Tank likewise drew URBNSURF to Melbourne.
Sept: Qld Fire Flies buzz Mount Olympus lured by $2.5b honey pot!
SC Mayor / CEO / SEQ 32 swears he'll break even or spare some tuck shop money.

Meanwhile WSL are doin' jump offs from Oprah's inflatable Wave-Pool-Couch.

Why! Event #1 WSL SC festival flys direct > event #2 Auckland Challenger > Syd/GC/Vic
SC Airport CEO: International Gateway for Surfers & WSL Michelob Ultra jetset.

Qld Tourism Nurse Kate now cradles a twin set of 'SC Major Wavepool Drawcards?'

Not so fast Wave pool Hogs, Olympic Cash Splash recipients must jump thru many hoops.

Olympic Training Pro/Clubbie Facility [Tick] (Bans Public on Weekdays/Weekends)
Eco Lodge Handout [Tick] Ditch the Taps/WC & Wiring & charge $2,000/wk
Cultural Roots [Tick] New Bar for the boyz at The Boardroom's Surf Museum.
Environmental Centre [Tick] Showcase chlorinated wastewater killing the sea weeds.
Public Open Space [Tick] Just large enough to scaffold a paid entry WSL comp arena.

2021 Sunshine Coast hosts 'The Aussies' (Olympic #1 Wave Pool Demo?)

Bonus project details...

https://www.ausleisure.com.au/news/coolum-revealed-as-location-for-propo...

https://www.surfingaustralia.com/SurfingQueensland/news/wavepool-1?fbcli...

https://www.facebook.com/couriermail/posts/10157152438887702

https://www.zinc96.com.au/news/local-news/103666-wsl-considering-surf-ra...

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Lanky Dean Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 2:03pm

As a family we used to holiday at Burleigh.
One day we drove past this weird pond with cables in the air.
What's this all about? Cable sking.
Turns out it was fun as hell.
We used to wake board on it.
It was so entertaining and relatively cheap. We went back again and again.
Same thing the next year.
Untill we stopped going to Burleigh.
Pretty sure it was in South Port.

Feel like The A w machines.
Would be more appropriate.
Personally I think Kelly's pool is just far too the same.

Just like cable skiing all over again!

Are they doing this to suck the air out of surf lakes?
Surely no one will invest in this.
?

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truebluebasher Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 4:04pm

Lanky Dean's Cabe Ski World is now Runaway Lagoons
https://www.powearchitects.com/portfolio/runaway-lagoons/

10kms direct west & Debbie crashed the reopening party.
https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/business/gold-coast-cable-ski-park-...

https://www.parkz.com.au/forums/topic/7620-gc-wake-park-mar-2017-flood/

All lined up...just waiting for a Lanky Dean signature move!
https://gcwakepark.com.au/facilities/

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Lanky Dean Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 2:05pm

Wouldn't it be better to support surf lakes instead ?
More the merrier?

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sneakerset Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 2:57pm

At A$80,000 for day hire for say 8 hours and 1 wave generated every 4 mins (correct me if I'm wrong) that's 120 waves over 8 hours. That works out $80,000 / 120 waves =A$666.67 per wave what a bargain. Can't see viability ofr the masses just a continuation of Sydney and Melbourne Big Corporate love -ins on the Sunny Coast and surf coaching for wealthy private school kids.

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Blowin Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 3:58pm

Geez , I’m not the sort of guy that takes pleasure in casting doubt over anything that Dirk Ziff , the WSL and Andrew Stark do or say , but may I just provide a factual comparison here ?

Apparently, the Tub will create 10,000 jobs , whilst the Gorgon Gas plant in WA was built with less than 8000 workers ( including the jetty structure).

You tell me which site looks like it’d have a higher labour requirement :

Gorgon

VS

The Tub

But I’m sure it’s a Billion dollar project ......Starky said so !

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sneakerset Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 4:14pm

Yep $ figures seem a little embellished - the total estimated total completion cost of the new Maroochydore City/Business Centre is $430 million. Maybe they are including this in the figures then multiplied it by 2 and rounded up to nearest $B.

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NDC Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 7:17pm

Now that’s a funny comparison

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Vic Local Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 8:17pm

10,000 jobs from the wave pool construction? I reckon the WSL may be using Adani's calculator to get those figures.

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wbat Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 4:22pm

Sounds great to me.

Fair bit of whinging going on here.

It was always going to happen.

Don't want it? We'll have it in WA.

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JosephStalin Tuesday, 1 Oct 2019 at 8:18pm

True dat build it then we'll see whose whinging

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truebluebasher Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 4:39pm

Says here to shake first!
1,000 x (10 Wave Pool-monkeys per pack) next add a cap-full of WSL Cordial.
I think you put in too much cordial Blowin...nice & easy...try letting go of the bottle!

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redmondo Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 5:14pm

Artificial trees and turf would give it a nice finishing touch

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SurferSam Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 5:17pm

I’m all for my company sponsoring a corporate love in there complete with barrels + beverages , but otherwise no I’m too much of a tight arse

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truebluebasher Saturday, 28 Sep 2019 at 9:54am

Nice WSL diversion & with no song & dance, a quality wave pool is right now filling up!
& no it's not Melbourne or Yeppoon or anywhere near Oz or USA.

https://stabmag.com/news/the-tap-has-been-turned-on-at-the-wave-in-bristol/

http://wavepoolmag.com/the-wave-pool-is-filled-first-waves-to-roll-out-i...

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frog Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 6:28pm

Dirk gonna learn surfing to them aliens.

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Vic Local Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 8:11pm

Don't be shocked if the exact location is the Palmer Resort at Coolum. You know Australia's premier luxury golf retreat the big fat miner ran into the ground. Surely after 4 years without a guest, the place would be potentially be on the market.
Not sure if the thing would be profitable given the relatively small population base up on the Sunshine Coast / Brisbane area.

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JosephStalin Tuesday, 1 Oct 2019 at 7:22pm

What are you talking about bris is third largest city and goldy the 5th largest in Aus All within 200kms

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Vic Local Tuesday, 1 Oct 2019 at 9:10pm

Just compare it to Lemoore which is close enough for day trips from two surf mega cities (LA and SAN Fran, not to mention Santa Cruz)
Australia isn’t even close to the US market size for big spending corporates. Just not sure there enough high disposable income surfers / corporates / tourists who are happy to pay big bucks to cover the capital costs, especially as there’s a bunch of other wave pools coming online in the next few years. A KS wave pool won’t have “first mover” advantages.

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JosephStalin Wednesday, 2 Oct 2019 at 11:23am

I see your point

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truebluebasher Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 8:35pm

Vic Local said 'fat' in a tradesman like manner, please no one say 'Ugg Boots' are back!

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Vic Local Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 9:36pm

I hope the Irwins got a big fat cheque for plugging Clive's big fat disaster.

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Lanky Dean Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 10:03pm

Asset rich nation.
Very cash poor.
Debit rich surplus.
We don't need no more
Wave pools,
Rich people drool
Vals and kooks gallore
It seems you only need one day.
Then its on to the next
trend/ big thing
Heard mountain bikings pretty "hot right now"

That's my poem
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velocityjohnno Saturday, 28 Sep 2019 at 11:15am

+1 great stuff

Edit: check out what downhill mountain biking has done to NE Tassie

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Spuddups Sunday, 29 Sep 2019 at 5:32am

Lanky Dean, Poet Laureate of Swellnet. Ha ha, keep it coming brudduh!

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Stupot Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 10:46pm

Instead of a new pool just build the foil 100m off the shoreline of nationals through first point, no evaporation of our precious fresh water supply, plenty of parking, natural sand bank, prevailing off shore winds. Your welcome Kelly...

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Stupot Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 10:50pm

And the safety net on the rig will keep the jet skis and sharks out of the line up...

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Stupot Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 10:53pm

The downside is that the 5 minute intervals between waves will allow JW to get back to the take off to claim what is rightfully his...

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Lanky Dean Saturday, 28 Sep 2019 at 2:23pm

Apparently he thinks he was born in mundaka also...he was a pest there ten years ago.

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Vic Local Wednesday, 2 Oct 2019 at 7:40am

Couldn’t be as bad as Gabs and Toledo at Winki a couple of Easters ago. Fair dinkum I was convinced they had a couple of identical twin brothers in the water. Toledo mouthing off at 50 year old locals really rubbed people up the wrong way.

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Vic Local Wednesday, 2 Oct 2019 at 8:39am

Couldn’t be as bad as Gabs and Toledo at Winki a couple of Easters ago. Fair dinkum I was convinced they had a couple of identical twin brothers in the water. Toledo mouthing off at 50 year old locals really rubbed people up the wrong way.

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kerri.watson Friday, 27 Sep 2019 at 11:34pm

Qlders love a BIG thingy - here it is with bells & whistles.....also fits in very nicely with Sunny Coast Council mantra of all things Big, Smart & Well-Connected (!) Locals here can barely afford to live in their shoe-boxes let alone pay entry fees for BIG wave parks. Methinks the commentator who mentioned Irukandji was on the money - this is definitely ‘post-apocalypse’ investment strategy by KS, cementing the Sunny Coast as playground for the rich, stupid, patriotic gamers! I think I prefer the stingers...

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Terminal Saturday, 28 Sep 2019 at 8:05am

Thanks, the Irukandji factor has been on my mind for a while. I like your ‘post-apocalypse’ investment strategy phrase, very apt. Here's another one that's been on my mind, bit of a sidenote but related at the same time. I've got this hypothesis that the govt are well aware the Great Barrier Reef is on the way out, and in their eyes, the Adani mines will replace the tourism industry that evaporates with the reef. International tourists are not going to drive all that way up to see the Daintree, guaranteed, and this will be further amplified by the building of the international runway at the Sunshine Coast; Cairns is no longer the last port of call for international tourists. I'm surprised the SC airport expansion got the go ahead on this alone, as FNQ will really suffer. But there will be more internationals with coin to play in the hot tub while waiting for their flight....

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kerri.watson Saturday, 28 Sep 2019 at 10:05pm

Yep - SC airport expansion is all about China factor. More middle-class people wanting to travel & with the money to do so. More tourism on Sunshine Coast, export dollars through freight hubs on the coast & down to Brizzie. The wave pool can take up the ‘slack’ left over from previous enviro campaigns.

I agree - both govt & big business know their time is nearly over for Irukanji-free coastal environments.

Hence, a few more risks won’t matter in the overall scheme!

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 29 Sep 2019 at 8:03pm

Same thing happening with upgrade of Hobart to international airport

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truebluebasher Saturday, 28 Sep 2019 at 1:31am

tbb Laughed when kerri said Qldurrz love a BIG thingy...cause it's true!

Once the WSL Pool Boy scoops up the leaves, the Sunny Coast Pool Party is open.
"Call that a pool leaf... this is a pool leaf."(tbb salutes old school Sunny Coast Groms).

How does Kelly plan to pull a better crowd & stoke than Local Rebel League Pin Ups!
Give up now Champ! Sunny Coast Groms won't be ruled by button pusherz.

Local Pro Grom quote ["The Technology takes Mother Nature out of the Equation!"]
https://www.surfingaustralia.com/SurfingQueensland/news/wavepool-1?fbcli...

Who ever heard a grom say Technology + Mother Nature + Equation in one sentence?
tbb is calling that one out for a start....leave the Gromz out of it...You BIG meanies!

Plush Pool anchors wealthy beach bums who wall off gromz from 'their' beaches!
Gromz! Take down the fat cats ..Parents! Look away now! Mayor can collect his bits!

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hawk Saturday, 28 Sep 2019 at 9:10am

Has to better then another shopping centre (sunshine plaza). at least when you buy something it’s an experience not a material item.
All you whinges need to question what you do for a job? What your parents did for a job and what will your children and there children do for a job? All this shit you speak about people to worried about economics and not environmental, it needs to objective. If we can’t do both then we are stupid.

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udo Saturday, 28 Sep 2019 at 11:18am

New piece on Beachgrit by longtom

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spookypt Saturday, 28 Sep 2019 at 12:54pm

No thanks

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truebluebasher Sunday, 29 Sep 2019 at 2:14am

Udo...It got taken down ...'Are you kidding me?'
https://beachgrit.com/2019/09/breakdown-are-you-kidding-me-building-an-e...
Reply:
https://beachgrit.com/2019/09/bombshell-surfing-australia-director-deman...

It's now enshrined that Olympic sporting facilities equally engage host communities.
Non performing closed shop Olympic Pools must still revolve municipal turnstiles!

Qld Champ swimmers openly share our Olympic pools to bag most Gold in the world.
WSL Aussie Surf Pros will need to accommodate civic Wave Pool share to win Gold.

WSL can't just waltz in here & take the Olympic host's money then lock them out...
That'd be like shitting on the Olympic ideal...We Qldurrz aren't that stupid! Try again!

tbb salutes longtom for telling Qldurrz how to think! Wake up call was on the money!
Now the world can read the reason why it was taken down... WSL - Money for Jam!

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Spuddups Sunday, 29 Sep 2019 at 5:36am

I reckon if the thing runs on solar power and desalinated water then it's a goer. Personally I'd rather surf the Waco pool though. That joint looks way more fun.

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shoredump Sunday, 29 Sep 2019 at 6:26am

São Paulo are getting 2 of them

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SDW Sunday, 29 Sep 2019 at 6:01am

100 million is completely ridiculous.

For 5 million I reckon I could build a word class mountain bike park out the back of Kenilworth complete with a chair lift. Do it right environmentally, bring way more people in than a wave pool and spread the tourism around the region, rather than just concentrating it on the coast. Money (much less of it!) better spent.

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udo Sunday, 29 Sep 2019 at 8:47am

Build cost UP to $100 mill
Slater wavepool coming in at approx 45 mill..plus build of Eco Lodge - Event and Training Facilities -Tourism Accommodation and Enviromental exp centre
up to $100 mill is a fair call.

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B.B.Blitz Sunday, 29 Sep 2019 at 7:55am

Bring it on I say, okay I'm biased living 10 minutes away but why not?Sunshine Coast has few attractions apart from beachs.Not sure how it will affect crowds in the ocean but cost wise whats a 10 day trip to the Telos $6k,,,,at$60-100 per wave roughly, pain in the arse to get there, time off work etc etc....who wouldn't pay $50 for a perfect wave at your backdoor?Season pass??.Every grommet will be wanting a 10 wave voucher for Christmas,,,,shopping problem solved.

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truebluebasher Monday, 30 Sep 2019 at 4:18pm

2020 Olympic /Pro Wave-Pool Entry Prices Tokyo /Australia

Tokyo Entry to Olympic Pool- $240 - $1,480/event (To sneak a peek at Oz swimmer)
Sunny Coast Uni Olympic Pool - $5/day (To swim with Aussie Gold swimmer)
#1 SC Uni Olympic Gold Pool max price 'pass' is $1.50/day or 16c/hr
https://www.usc.edu.au/sport/sport-and-fitness/pool
https://www.usc.edu.au/sport/sport-and-fitness
[VOTE] could WSL top that facility + Olympian access + public access / pricing

IOC price Olympic surf entry sits well beneath that of an Olympic swim facility price!

Tokyo Entry to Olympic Pro surf beach - $40 / event to squint an Oz Champ.

Darwin Wave Lagoon 'Largest 1.7m waves' @ Sth'H'sphere stand alone wave pool.
$1.40/week to spot Surf World Champ [L] Pro or 2c /hr or under 1c / wave to shore
https://www.topendshortstays.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/IOB066834...

https://inspiringtravellers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/IMG_1194-750-...
Town of 180k each rides a 1.7m wave back to shore for under a 1 cent coin.
Wavepool guests makeup approx (Locals 70% + Oz 22% + o/s 8%)
$100m & SEQ could build 10 waveparks & empty the ocean of 10 yrs x 1.8m groms.
Darwin Wave Lagoon is approved SLSA + Surfing Australia Junior Training Facility.


Surfing Australia are fine surfing Pool waves at less than 1c each in Darwin.

Urbnsurf $28.3m buys an Olympic Pro / Public Share #1 Quality Wave Park .
Latest prices = Wavegarden Bristol $75/hr +Snowdonia $80/hr +Waco $135/hr
Melbourne's + Bristol's water is good enough to drink..so close they say!
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Coolum CHOGM rort + Clive rort + Ski rort + PFAS rort + WSL Wavepool II rort?
Goldie is surfing up a fleet of whiteshoe whiteboards, plenty more if you need 'em!
We even half did the first Dot 2 Dot on the White Board (Just: join the Dots!)

Surf Ranch is moated from a Ski Resort, imagine if there was a Coolum Oz Ski resort!
Quanda Lake can 'freely' shape up & sub lease a 'non motorised' wave machine (Solar?)
Site leases to SLSQ, Gyms, Studio & theme park but 'Noisy Training' on Lake is banned.
Whiteshoe gold pass + peppercorn rent + bans public training on lake..(WSL dream!)

Just far enough outta town to avoid locals,misses both bus & train but makes the Plane.
Tradie Mates for Neighbours: Concreters Engineers, Mechanics, Dewater, Solar, Roofers
Next door Party Pals to lend Coaches, Freight, Hire, Scaffolding, Marquees, Portaloos

Spot X (Shh!)
https://aquaparkcoolum.com.au/location

https://www.statedevelopment.qld.gov.au/land-for-industry/coolum-eco-ind...

https://www.ceip.com.au/

Surveillance footage:
https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/14/b2/dc/43/another-perf...
https://www.luxuryholidaybargains.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Cool...

see: Noosa/Sunny/Gympie Regional Facilities Plan for difficult to locate sports (Final Feb/2019)
https://www.noosa.qld.gov.au/documents/40217326/41534407/Regional%20Faci...

*Motorised water sports (The quiet type of course!)
(page 18-19) SC Council recommends 'Quarries' (or) expansion of 'Quanda Lake's' for Events.
(page 23) Suncoast model flying airfield is temp only, until Lake land is required for development.

Sunny Coast News Quanders Quirky Quanda Quarry Quango.

https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/water-skiers-sunshine-coast-c...

https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/ski-park-lease-under-fire/252...

https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/sheers-defends-lake-plans/252...

https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/move-to-probe-oz-ski-resort-d...

GOAT is parting his Pool Waves long enough for WSL...but drowns his seasciples!

Will you be wanting some Olympic size Jacuzzis for your new WSL Wave Lake?
https://aquamagazine.com/news/surf-s-up-at-the-2020-olympics.html

*Water Quality (No! Tbb never forgot, it's just another red sea tape Quirk)
[ Quanda Lake has Tea Tree Oils & seems 'OK' for Water Skiers & Aqua Park Kidz ]
(Kelly chooses the colour!) Trad' Tea Tree Lakes are reserved for Aboriginal Women.
Interesting as this is man made lake flows with sacred Tea Tree healing powers.
If only WSL could bottle it! What...please don't tell me...Kelly's wave pool elixir!

[PS] Quanda Lake dippers are not lake babies (Water tests for regular Guests?)

*Quanda Lake runs off around ind' Park & lazily repools for potential roadside Wave Pool
Free! Mosquito swamp feeds off host lake as such could scratch up another Gold Ticket!

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Maloney Monday, 30 Sep 2019 at 9:00am

Slater is cooked

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JosephStalin Monday, 30 Sep 2019 at 11:17am

I havnt read all the comment coz there's so many, but punters on the coast would splurge $100 every other weekend for a wave at this thing ( granted there's no waves on the coast which is likely)...they'd spend that at the pub or elsewhere anyway on their weekend off of smashing up houses or whatever monotony pays the bills.

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The Shaper Monday, 30 Sep 2019 at 12:23pm

Just for the record, I am not a "naysayer". I would love to be able to surf one of these waves regularly. The benefits to my design program would be amplified exponentially. BUT the reality of me ever being able to ride that particular wave model is ZERO. ZERO ZERO. We are being USED!

PUNTERS don't get kick a ball around on Suncorp! Go try it! They get to use the little field down the road, that one with half dead kibble, gravel spot, bindiis and of course the swooping magpie.........

I strongly object to way BIG money is USING US and our sport for their OWN purposes. Make no mistake this proposal is no different. You an I will only get to ride these waves if you are part of an "elite" squad, or corporate elite.

.......and the kick in the teeth is ........the spin off from big money charging big prices for access always impacts on the price of everything (surfing is no exception) . Once we put a high price on something and someone is willing to pay it, we all end paying more for it unless there is lots of alternative sources.

So welcome to the world of exclusive ski resorts and 5 star everything. The masses are coming (you thought they were already here you ain't seen nothing yet) along with a massive demand imbalance. Gregg Webber, please hurry your last idea to market.............

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Spuddups Monday, 30 Sep 2019 at 1:01pm

I wouldn't press the panic button just yet brudduh. Last time I looked no one can charge you to surf in the ocean. If that's what "they" are planning then there's gonna be one hell of a shit fight going down.

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The Shaper Monday, 30 Sep 2019 at 1:35pm

My sore point is the perception that this is for the benefit of all.
They generate massive public interest to float their enterprise but with the intention of exclusive service delivery. There is no intention of meeting the demand they create at punter level. This model can't deliver. Its a good time to have a surf school or surf resort I guess.

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Spuddups Tuesday, 1 Oct 2019 at 4:32am

Can't argue with that.

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frog Monday, 30 Sep 2019 at 1:09pm

As far as making money from surfing, I would rather this occur through wave pools, which increase the net waves on offer in the world, than the decades of flogging surf fashion and image that have been the core of the surf industry to date - creating crowds but not a single new wave.

The long term impact on crowding our ocean spots is an open question. But I still think that punters moving from perfection served up on a plate in a wave pool to the real world of dud trips, random beachies, hard paddling, rips, sharks or crowded point breaks will find it to be a sobering experience.

Many who begin in pools or get right into them in the early days will stick to the certainty and safety of chlorine. Then a good proportion will very likely grow bored with repetitive perfection and fade out of surfing. A session battling the pack at Snapper or trying to get out through a heavy shorebreak will send them scurrying back to the pool or their game station.

Once years ago when living in Melbourne my surf fitness dropped right off and I ended up getting inspired and drove to at 13th beach on a solid mid winter grey sky 6 foot A frame day. Peaks everywhere 15 people or so spread across a large wave zone. It looked appealing but once out there my arms were too weak to get in early, my heart wasn't in it and it all felt a bit scary, cold and foreign. Before long I was back in my car, tail between my legs and on the long drive back to the city.

Sessions like that are the untold story of why many people quit surfing.

Wave poolers will poop 'emselves in the ocean.

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B.B.Blitz Monday, 30 Sep 2019 at 2:02pm

Well said Frogg,,,,, throw in some irukandji, remove shark nets, might even be able to get a set wave at Nationals.This could well breed a new bunch of soft cocks who never know what an onshore shorey looks like......the thought of surfing outside the flags will be enough to throw in the towel.

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Finnbob the terror Monday, 30 Sep 2019 at 2:58pm

Too true Frog,
Also we are forgetting that being a passionate surfer, chasing waves here there and everywhere, surfing what ever you can when you can, from onshore slop to cooking points, we even get towed behind a boat on your surfboard just get some close feeling to surfing a wave, riding rip sticks and smooth stars to pretend where surfing, riding skateboard through tarpaulins to replicate getting a barrel and now in the near future occasionally having a fuck around in a wave pool if you want.
Doesn't sound too bad to me

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innatube Monday, 30 Sep 2019 at 2:51pm

Most Sunny Coast Councillors will sell their soul for a fast buck. Just gotta mention the word "eco" and they're falling over themselves to sign up. In the Sunny Coast paper today it mentions a 500ha site it's supposed to be built on. As any local knows the only available land around Coolum is swamp so the aqua park would be the logical site. It must be a massive wavepool because the paper guantees 10000 jobs haha . God help us!

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Terminal Tuesday, 1 Oct 2019 at 10:03am

That swamp is high value habitat for a lot of rare and locally endangered species (e.g. international flights soon to be buzzing ground parrots, if there's any left), but people don't care about that, no turtles there, just mozzies. The anthropocentric angle is our old mate potential acid sulphate soil that allegedly occurs all throughout the region and is just itching to be exposed to oxygen with developments of any kind.

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JosephStalin Tuesday, 1 Oct 2019 at 3:24pm

Not exactly swamp, that land has been used for sugar cane farming for I dunno close to 100 yrs, those farmers put innalot of flood management and fall over their whole plots. Much like the land at twin waters west that will soon be built on developers will just truck a shit ton of fill in and start building houses.

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truebluebasher Monday, 30 Sep 2019 at 4:57pm

innatube is onto it ..most swamp is reserved, restrictive or backs onto suburbia.
Govt Eco Industrial Estate lease comes with Premier's 100% (PURE) WSL Eco tag
Kelly's cup overfloweth with Tea Tree Tea + Whiteshoe Gold Ticket (Details above)
Govt MP: Kelly's Industrious Eco Commune supports 10,000 jobs (All Agree! Aye!)

Govt land stamps...fast track + over rides + up zones + hand-outs + joint tickets...etc
Commercial in confidence [ CLOSED COUNCIL MEETING AHEAD ] { Keep Out! }

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el Sid Monday, 30 Sep 2019 at 6:22pm

Just locate it a where the existing runway is at the SC airport, keep the PFAS contaminated water there instead of pumping it out to sea.
It's so simple & obvious, it's okay Mayor Jamison you can take the credit or the payoff or both.
Better yet, perfect way to cull the surfing population or at least make them sterile and do away with all those pesky push in-groms.

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truebluebasher Monday, 30 Sep 2019 at 8:14pm

el Sid...URBNSURF municipal model sucks up Sunny Coast Airport PFAS filters it out then flosses yer teeth in club med spa water all on the same ride.
It seems some here are misled into thinking they're clawing back some sorta miserable access to their fair share of wave pool...as if!
WSL Kelly model seeks IOC Grants & Qld tourism eco event hand outs for Closed Shop 19th Hole TeaTreeTeePees! Sunny locals are entitled to one annual top dollar gold coin toss into the wave fountain of eco youth...so long as they don't pee in it...[note]...no selfies, we're serious grom...crrrunch#%*\\ _ . Ranch house pool rules.

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WendyM Monday, 30 Sep 2019 at 6:37pm

What sort of wave will they dish and how much

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 1 Oct 2019 at 1:05pm

Wendy!
World Champ Steph models the wave quality..

Kelly never stops tinkering with his skidpan.
Few question the pit crew's wave mechanics.
The ride length is only equalled by Qingfeng.

Surf Ranch Cost $45m (AUD) not including developers.
Gold Tickets are beyond the realm of mere mortals...

3/9/2019 Price Guide
thanx to Freshwater Pro + Guillaume Nouri c/o Motions Mag
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/freshwater-pro-presented-by-outerknown-sept...
https://motionsmag.com/originals/how-much-does-it-cost-to-surf-at-kelly-...
Surf Ranch Entry Prices in (AUD)
2019 eg:WSL Noosa 1st Point = (free)
2019 eg:WSL Cooum Ranch = $80 (adults)
2019 eg:VIP +Kelly = $8,138 +$250 (booking fee)

Ranch Day Hire (Winter-closed)
(Low price is spring-autumn / peak-summer)
10 surfers @ $50,000-$75,000/day
$5,000 =12 waves each/$415-$625 per wave.

(Note each Ranch wave costs $11 in 'energy')
Solar Panels freely provide 100% of Wave Train Power
Coolum Tea Tree Lakes serve up free brew all day

Lashings of 3 course Govt handouts
Premier's Supersized Olympic Buffet
Silver spoons for Gravy Wavetrain
Buckets of Mayor's Ranch Style Dressing
Just a smidge of Pepper Corn rent.
$500 per serve ...Bon appetit

tbb will wave thru a free prescription
Max-Dose: 1 wave every 4mins
*~~~~^~~~/(`~~~/(C...[Coolum )

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WendyM Wednesday, 2 Oct 2019 at 2:29pm

Thanks truebluebasher for all that info

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Credit to Bill Hoffman SCD
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COMMUNITY and environment groups have questioned the impact of a wave pool tourism precinct near Coolum on a flood plain protecting vulnerable urban development.

Peak residents group OSCAR, Coolum Residents Association and the Sunshine Coast Environment Council (SCEC) have said answers were required as to how key flooding and acid sulphate soil issues would be managed. The site west of the Sunshine Motorway and immediately south of the Coolum roundabout has previously been the subject of a bid to build a Coolum West masterplanned development.

It was also subject of a July, 2017, attempt led by Sunshine Coast Council CEO Michael Whittaker with the support of five councillors to have a review of flood modelling of the controversial Twin Waters West development application by Stockland extended to include other flood-prone land on the Maroochy River north shore. Planning chair Christian Dickson and fellow councillors Peter Cox and Ted Hungerford walked out rather than be associated with the move.

Kawana MP Jarrod Bleijie was to reveal later that year on October 4, the same day the Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk backed a CCC recommendation to ban developer donations to local government candidates, that the Labor Party had accepted a $33,500 donation from Consolidated Properties. That donation came after another for $16,000 handed over to Labor on September 18, 2017.

Jay Chandler of Malibu Farms who is next door to Consolidated Properties confirmed yesterday he was engaged in ongoing discussions about the inclusion of his land in the wave pool tourism precinct proposal. That would mean the extent of any application would cover a 500ha area equal to that contemplated for the Coolum West masterplanned community.

"There's an ongoing sickness of governance as it affects the Sunshine Coast. "Out of town companies approach the Queensland Government first. They don't come to the community. "It's (the proposal) hiding behind a wave pool on a flood plain. It would be negligence on the part of a council and the government."

OSCAR spokesman Melva Hobson said the more than 40 community groups it represented supported the Planning Scheme and opposed flood plain development. Ms Hobson said while there may be some value in a wave pool, more detail was needed. She said independent studies around flood storage and groundwater impacts would be critical to determine potential effects on existing urban areas around the flood plain.

SCEC campaigner Narelle McCarthy said Mr O'Rorke had invited her to a meeting to discuss the issues. She said a wave pool fitted the region's tourism brand but that it was a massive project on low-lying land. Ms McCarthy said the entire area had historically gone well under water on a flood plain already compromised by the infilling of the Coolum Industrial estate.
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truebluebasher Wednesday, 2 Oct 2019 at 1:27am

Thanx Sprout...noting the acid sulphates on this lower floodplain site makes sense.

Merrimac/ Carrara Floodplain Golf Courses dug up the Acid Sulphates...decades later they keep at it & endless Fish Kills ever since...first they were all shocked now GCCC accept it's normal to forever scoop lakes of river carpeted with dead fish...Whatever! (Just Whiteshoe shining boys!)

This site is zoned State Sand Mining resource that halted previous developments.
Huge Thanx to Briallyn Williams for sharing Mining Docs...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157751901399884&set=p.10157751...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157751901004884&set=p.10157751...
Maps / paper supplied by No Sandmine for Coolum [f] site
https://www.facebook.com/groups/NoSandMineforCoolum/?hc_location=ufi

Big Thanx also to Lloyd Gamble...
"It's former Cane Land contaminated with 24-D (TCDD) + nearby PFAS would stop project. The water would be too toxic for humans. Decontamination would cost 100's of $m's. SCRC know the land is contaminated but they refuse to test it, as they will have to remediate the site...good luck on EIS without chem tests!"

"DES are looking into why SCRC haven't complied with addressing known contamination!"

tbb verified that indeed many cane loading sites exist on wavepool site.
Main sorting Bay is likely most contaminated centres on N/E corner where existing eastern side > south drain begins. 3 Other minor loading points abut the Motorway to reach the Treatment Plant.
The cane tram started at same (North Central site) N/E sorting corner curved thru roundabout back south west until [M'way] (Branched back on itself to Beach +Golf) Re-enters back to this said site to align with present main N/S drain. Branches pick-up S/E M'way loads + treatment plant load then xing the river branches back up to Nambour Mill main line.

tbb Note: Govt's have removed similar Toxic fill from former Sand Quarries.
Varsity Lakes Rail Station was built on such! Boy, did they pay in time & money! (Way Over budget!) Workers told tbb it turned into a money pit! (Went on & on!)
If what all say is true then poisons have most certainly leeched into ground water...This requires a Whole of Airport / Treatment Plant Precinct remediation. Wavepool site flowing direct to RAMSAR Maroochy Wetlands are of World importance. As of now only the Airport or Treatment Plant can clean the site...over years would be the standard time frame for wetlands compliant remediation.!
Cooly Airport have uncovered their lot & slowly & dangerously chart their way ahead...tbb doesn't say that lightly, as site workers (usually indigenous) are suffering from fatal work related PFAS illness. Hazmat suited site cleans don't inspire WSL (PURE) Eco tag...we're in for a bumpy ride here folks.

Why not just plug into the upper Quanda Lake..it's already got zoning for expansion & a wave pool?

SC Council first need to rezone & open this chosen site as a Govt Sand Quarry.At this point we're guessing Govt digs & carts Sand at no cost to WSL. Council need to then close quarry. Rezone ("Hard to please sports") Leaving Kelly with Tsunami sized Wave Dam for v8 Skid pan. Either tapping into ground water or maybe even sea water with tea tree water on tap via Govt Eco Industrial Park (Take yer Pick) It's all free eitherway...Oh Yeah! The Quarry is highly Toxic.(Shh!) ... Jobz anyone!

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JosephStalin Tuesday, 1 Oct 2019 at 3:28pm

The rate the sunnycoast is growing that land will be looked at for subdivision before too long, there is no land left to develope east of the David low way. Developers will be looking at that "swamp " within 10 yrs so build a surf park why not?

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normal-ben Tuesday, 1 Oct 2019 at 3:38pm

I'd like to see a proper Aussie version of this wave pool, by that i mean - use sea water and throw in a couple of Crocodiles and a plethora of hungry sharks. Make a game show out of it too, for television, iwatch etc. I'd tune in to watch some kooks get torn to shreds by a hungry shark. You could really have fun with it. Throw some blood and guts out before they take off on the wave. If they fall off they are a huge chance of getting munched. It could be like survivor crossed with crocodile dundee with a twist of Jaws...I can hear the soundtrack now... They could 'green-wash' it too, I mean getting rid of a few people would be good for environment? Get a bunch of these hot narcissistic topless semi-naked 'influencers' to host it. Get a beer sponsor, make all the contestants get shit faced before they take the wave. Winner gets a holiday to Reunion Island. It is a no brainer. #soulsurfer

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 1 Oct 2019 at 4:31pm

Thanks Sprout for sharing some real good background on wavepool site.

re: Bne OZ #1 Hutchinson Builders/Tour company is a player)
https://theurbandeveloper.com/articles/kelly-slaters-100m-surf-ranch-pro...
>(1km long)< wave pool on Consolidated Properties (Yandina/Coolum Roundabout)
The site earlier once sought tacit approval for Sand Mining (As Quanda Lake!)
https://www.facebook.com/ABCSunshineCoast/photos/a.578179792228798/25201...

OSCAR release (Today): Questions Surf Ranch location & impact...
tbb can't locate...re Sprout (above) has got the run on this angle...(Anyone share!)

Lay persons view...
Upper Flood table feeds Quanda Lake, flows thru & around Coolum Eco Ind' Park.
Note Lake Quanda State Industry has filled in their overflow holding pond.
They now force feed their eco canals under State Route (11) to Dodgy Bro's site.

Man made Oz Ski Lake Quanda rules might flow equally to man mined Wavepool.
State Govt over rides Council process to rezone a traffic-flood 'compo package'.
Re use of Tea tree Lake > Eco Industrial water > Wave Pool brands the Eco badge.
There is an overflow drain...this is where the locals take issue! (Water Quality)
Excess water overflows to RAMSAR Maroochy River.(re: Airport Run off to sea?)
Roughly a 3.5km pipe run to the nearby Treatment works.
This Pond is Acid Sulphate as opposed to Sand Mined upper host Lake Quanda.

Note the site has been in a few scraps.(Traffic / Flooding / Neighbours / Hollywood ?)
file:///C:/Users/Owner/Downloads/Additional%20Information%20-%20Traffic%20Engineering%20Report%20-%20REC11%200020.PDF

https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/banking-result/345058/
The good doctor might fork out half for a CCTV / WavePool cam with the boss!

1st Oct 2019 Sunny Coast Daily "Pipe Dreams"- Barrel Bonanza Awaits
Newspaper flags Environmental & Cost hurdles.
Windensea asks about SA/WSL Boardrider Club discounts?
Coolum Boardriders are all for it (if) it's affordable.
Surf Coach ...Pool Groms might lose touch with real surfing?

Try Press reader for free copy
(Troubleshooter Tip) Try scrolling journo's name (Matty Holdsworth > Click OK!)

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 1 Oct 2019 at 6:50pm

(Please can anyone verify this astounding ABC [f] news?)
https://www.facebook.com/ABCSunshineCoast/photos/a.578179792228798/25201...

Amazing *1km long Wave Pool could explain the double costing...$45m-$100m

Twice the Wave Power = 2 x height (6 >12ft) + 2 x speed (30 > 60km/hr)
Sunny Coast [M1] Speed cam ticket / Go Pro fine at the end of each ride! WTF.
All things being equal the El Rancho Tsunami should equal current Ranch ride times.

The power unit needs twice the recharge time or booster/s = 2 x 4 mins > 8 mins.
Twice the wait time =2 x longer queues...resulting in half the number of rides.
Half the number of paying guests. (Big wave crew only)
Needing Share Waves or 2 x higher prices to break even = $1000 per tsunami

The 'Dam' dug 2 x deep/wide + 2 x water volume needed + (2ML wasted / day)
Yes! This would pimp the Regional Google Map...Sunny Coast vs WSL Tsunami

(ABC) [f] Headline [YES] <1km> [NO] (Is this the Motherlode?)
Call that a Wavepool...This is a wave Pool ! Zoom Zoom Zoom!
GOAT cracks the 10ft Pool Wave...(Lock up yer Sunny Coast Gromz!)

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surfiebum Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 9:21am

$200M USD for this now... so he's given up on the sunny coast then?

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/slater-s-grand-plan-to-build-the-world-s...

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Blowin Wednesday, 26 Feb 2020 at 9:46am

Surfing....from joyful communion with nature to profit driven corporate synthesis in half a century.

Take a bow Kelly !