I don't have time for that kind of loosely targeted resentment. Get your message in order before going out to destroy

Shitty asian glass job. Look at it fall apart.

There are some great surfboard manufacturers in the USA. Both Harbour and Bing are currently celebrating their 60th years of manufacturing. Since 1959.

I clearly remember Schroff Surfboards from the 80's.

So if the surfboard industry in the USA is dying like he says then perhaps it has a lot more to do with the people behind the brands that are failing rather than the industry as a whole.

That’s a big tool for such a small job (and I’m not talking about the chainsaw)

It would be interesting to know how Peter Schroff is actually contributing to the American surfboard industry.

Did he not make his money helping Quicksilver flog boardshorts in the 90s?

People who have plundered surfing for profit in the past then take a righteous stand are shallow kooks.

Hilarious, at least he protests with a bit of style , and self depreciation , liked the music and his budgie smugglers!

There is an informative discussion on the state of the US board manufacturing industry with Matt Biolos that is well worth a listen. It gets good from the 54 minute mark. And at the 1:12 mark he states that the classic PU board is doing fine in America - it's that they don't have the dedicated workforce that can build EPS / composite / epoxy boards to the same quality for anywhere near the price. He actually talks up the quality of the Slater, Hayden boards that come in (1:12 mark).

https://surfsplendorpodcast.com/012-matt-mayhem-biolos/

As for supporting the local shaper.....I am all for it. But don't forget all these big guys were local shapers once. They did not start out big. They started out small and have gone on to build some impressive big businesses.

There is also an informative interview with Mark Price the CEO of Firewire that is well worth a listen as well

https://surfsplendorpodcast.com/003-mark-price-ceo-of-firewire-surfboards/

Disclaimer - I have locally shaped boards, boards I have shaped myself, Firewires and a handful of boards from other areas. Variety is the spice of life after all. Personally I find the FW Helium's to be my fav construction unless its windy / bumpy. I have snapped a few FW's but relative to the amount of action they see and my PU's over the years - they win hands down from a staying together perspective.

In my experience the old FW's were virtually indestructible but yellowed quickly.

While I can't speak from personal experience now, a lot of the newer Fw's don't seem to be made with the same longevity. Not uncommon to see snapped or creased FW's around here and at 100,000-150,000yen a pop, that's a lot of cash to burn.

Looks like Walter White after getting skunked on a surf trip down Baja way....

Silly but would have been fun with a few beers playing it up and those shoes are wild. Unlike Brutus not big on metal bit of punk would have been better.

Oh and I want that chainsaw mine is too short.

Peter's salute to overt Wendy O Williams early '80's Chainsaw gig.

Pretty sure Pete is aware that {STIHL 310) is a Gay Chainsaw.
Akin to whacking Kelly over the head with a wet lettuce or Ladies Handbag.
All the Lumberjacks are laughing their tits off, saying I told yer so!

Best not tell Peter that his Husky 122c prop is the only model [MADE IN CHINA]

Peter's Chainsaw Massacre {Poster} ....(6th July 2019 'Goin in for da Kill')
http://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/53c5c95ed8c154b9f1238202960b9...

tbb don't mind the tune...Stu or younger crew know the Song Title or Bands Name?
Already checked off some San Diego Band Posters...
Sounds like a Flying Nun Disc...love to hear Peter's tune without the Horseshit ramble.

Surfboard protest!
The west dumps Plastic,Fibreglass,Coal,Oil toxic leftovers one way to Asia.
After near dying they recycle it for more & more & more raw Surfboard materials.

Only Asia can produce materials to fashion a Surfboard then recycle the process.
By doing so saves Surfing from the pollution chain...giving Surfing a gasp of Eco cred.

Do Western Surf Shapers wish to cull the only 100% recyclable surfboard industry?
Believing they, the biggest polluters who can't run a Surfboard industry know best.
If west can't develop a recyclable surfboard industry then keep out of our oceans.
Time has come today! Never about quality but ever about protecting Blue Planet.

Here's the plan...like it or not!

This Schroff' guy is a complete wanker obviously him and Kelly had some issue at some point, as he spends half his time on instagram trolling Kelly, check out his surfboard business page on instagram.

Then ever once in a while some media outlet gives him publicity, normally one of those trashy click bait ones like Beach Grit, sad to see Swellnet give him any free publicity as that's all his after.

If he was really about local v's OS boards etc, he would expose and also focus on the huge number of board labels that also get boards made in Asia but often aren't even labeled as being so, there was a list somewhere it's long and contains a great number of the major surfboard labels (mostly their EPS/Epoxy offerings)

I think it's fun and funny and hilarious.

And I think Schroff is changing the narrative on asian made surfboards.
Especially in America.

Schroff has been sniffing too many of his chemicals

Tosser

Let’s make America great again y’all... Remember those epic manufacturing jobs from the 50s? Now they pay half what they did in the 50s - who wants one?

He has a point

wonder where Peter's wetsuits is made ? Thailand more than likely .

A rebel without a cause . The world has already had a Hunter S. Thompson ..

Loads of companies making boards in Asia on the cheap. Why does only Kelly Slater cop the grief for it? Surfers are ignorant in thinking that their surfboards are immune to the ravages of capitalism. If you can make a product cheaper, then someone will. You can get a cheap guitar made in Asia or an expensive one made in the USA. You can get a cheap pair or jeans made in Asia or an expensive well made pair in USA. Why should surfboards be any different? There are cheap shitty ones and there are beautiful hand made ones. Your decision.

Waste of a surfboard

Hilarious! It's better than brow-beating or finger-poking, I'll give him that, I just hope he checked where ze kettensäge was made before using it as a prop.

Somewhere someone lamenting the demise of the american chainsaw industry is destroying a Stihl. With explosives!

I think the debate of Asian made surfboards versus local etc is an interesting one, i think it would make a good article.

Where do you drawn the line?

Bali is now like the new Hawaii with plenty of shapers moved there even local shapers these days, even in Thailand there is smaller expat board builders (any local?) and yes although not great there is even waves in Thailand.

The thing that gets me about Asian factory boards (at least any of the branded ones)is they are not cheaper than what my local shaper charges. In some cases they are even more expensive. It should be the other way around for a personalized hand crafted board. I just don't understand why more people are not getting customs. Add in the joy of seeing it progress, the expectation and picking it up for the first time knowing it was made for you. Oh and call me shallow but i love to pay a bit more for a good spray or even a tint. Life is too short for plane white.

What do you get charged..
Asian Channel bottom with some colour up to 7'0 $549
Sideways range and prices surely cheaper ?

A hard one. I'd prefer to support local shapers/glassers/sanders, but can't help notice the irony on offer. Can't see too many people queuing for a custom car or custom (tailored) clothes. Bespoke houses, well yes there are a few of them getting around but not that many in the scheme of things. We have so many other products where we are happy to use what's on offer from the pop-out crowd, I cannot see how it's any different with surfing. If it means that the cream rises and can continue to make bespoke craft for the discerning buyer then terrific. But if we're honest, there are few pursuits where this kind of rivalry/antagonism occurs. And as far as environmental impact goes, don't get me started,

Firstly Stu, your headline is absolutely brutal. Well done.

Secondly: I would thought it's the Californians that have punched above their weight here in Australia. Let me explain. If you look at the boards destroyed, the HK and the Sci Fi they are Oz designed (I think for the Sci Fi) - but they are very relatable boards that the average joe can pick up off a rack and just surf to a pretty good level.

If you look at boards like the Lost V3 rockets, they are exactly the same, in this case Cali designed for smaller waves and they are relatable, floaty rails, flattish rocker, enough volume, accessible performance. So they sell well in Oz.

Thirdly, fins. Futures are Made in US and they have a large imprint here in Oz. Home grown FCS are Asian made IIRC. So the US doing well in this one. Stronger box design in the Futures too, well done.

Fourthly - tech: US is killing us for renewable PU blanks, varial foam, probably doing the renewable stuff really well at a local level too. All brought on by the closure of Clark foam, while we in Oz did not have such an earth changing event and we continue to do PU foam really well, my fav foam being Surfblanks. As Matt Biolos quoted above, it's about price and the good product you get for the price with PU is still hard to match.

So you see, the US has considerable influence here too, it's he who makes the most relatable quality equipment at the price, has the marketing to promote it, that gets the sales around the world. I say this as someone who has sadly seen older shapers I looked up to sent out of business, and all that goes with it.

Fifthly: TBB gay chainsaws, haha , is that a chainsaw attracted to other chainsaws? They would chip the teeth on each other!

Don't think much of his art....but google 'Chainsaw Kickback Photos"......and get a bucket ready. That could have turned from funny to pretty freaking ugly. Dont think Ill be letting him do any tree lopping for me.

Maybe the old brokeback cowboy was rebuffed by Slater in a previous attempt at rogering him with his pork sword rather than a Stihl chainsaw and he's out for revenge.

I bet that guitar in the background was made in Mexico by cheap labour.

The biggest problem with the surf industry is that the majority of consumers are delusional about their own abilities. This feeds an anxiety that a consumers surfing might be limited by a more forgiving board.

We have an obsurd amount of choice when it comes to boards. This is underpinned by a national psyche that fails to see the rationale in paying for a good quality product.

Why is the average surfer so shy about investing in a board with a little heavier glassing and a little more volume?

Glassing and shaping mass produced boards is low paid and pretty awful work. Best to let someone in Asia do that side of it if that’s what they want. Where the money is is in the IP of the designs and marketing. This is what we should be concentrating on. Look at Apple, they charge $1000 for an I-phone. The poor bugger in China that actually built the thing gets about 50c. Apple on the other hand, which owns the IP for the design and marketing makes something like $800. If you enjoy the high standard of living here in the west then you should consider this fact. By the way, that poor bugger earning $5/hr assembling iPhones was probably earlier on an even poorer bugger slogging it out in a field somewhere earning just enough to barely stay alive. China has pulled hundreds of millions of people out of abject poverty and into the middle class over the last 30 years. They might have pretty much fucked their environment in the process, but our countries all went through exactly the same process about 100 years ago. Who are we to deny them their chance?

Fuckhead swinging a chainsaw, wow shock rock at its wank knob best - on the subject of surfboards being mass produced, cost, surf industry multinationalism, corporate branding and wankers getting 'pulled off/in'(on jet ski's) well suit yourself - yawn

Swellnetonians shouldn't dream so loud...
Are you kidding me..."Gay Chainsaws invented Tinder"

Fark, I just watched the clip. The guy comes across as a bit of a fuckwit. Hard to properly judge without actually having met the guy, but actions speak louder than words I reckon.

As much as we hate to admit there is a relationship between what you can get away with at certain ages, and well, what you can’t.

This guys definitely crossed that line between cool and fool.

seppo incarnate

Just a bitter and twisted, self aggrandising old man, that is four minutes of my life I just wasted watching that, On a side note, when I came back to the surfing fold the first thing I did was shop around looking for a new board, took me four months to decide what I was being offered by young "consultants" in surf shops from mal's to all sorts of other stuff was not working. I have bowled ten pin most of my life and have all my balls fitted and drilled for good reason. Decided my best bet was to have my board fitted and shaped for the same reason, it met my needs and supported an Australian shaper. Simples!

Who is the band?

is there a band? all I could hear was chainsaws

Thought he put on quite the performance.
This is a story within a bigger story.

Listen to him on DIRTY WATER, is a character if nothing else and Noah like his board.