Little dude is living the wave pool dream, I've got to say before i clicked on the article i thought it was going to be him surfing in the Mentawais from the article pic.
blindboySunday, 5 Nov 2017 at 9:14am
Why do I suddenly feel nauseous?
savanovaSunday, 5 Nov 2017 at 9:25am
Now all Kelly needs to do is create one of those pools that supplies waves that are that big for someone who is 6'3" not 3'6".
ljkarmaSunday, 5 Nov 2017 at 7:37pm
sadly BB people of mature age often suffer negative responses to the challenges of change and even plain old envy can manifest itself in feelings of nausea sometimes.
Personally, I feel nothing but stoke for a kid who is fortunate to have that chance in life that two very cool people like Kelly and Shane can pass on. JJF is a direct result of that exact form of nurturing and I, for one, am grateful for his contribution to surfing.
Just saying.
freerider.Monday, 6 Nov 2017 at 5:09am
I'm wondering if they might be ruining this kids future surf life, when he gets back to the real world, all he might be thinking about is this wave and the no hassles to surf it, (he might never be happy in the real ocean again) while we, as more mature surfers, 'are thankful' for the ocean, the time we have to put in to score, and for what we have.
Rabbits68Monday, 6 Nov 2017 at 11:14am
Pretty sure with Shane Dorian being his Dad, the love for the ocean will remain a powerful drawcard for the young fella. That said, he might grow up from this point forward only wanting to surf in wave pools like your implying. Just can't see it really.........
blindboyMonday, 6 Nov 2017 at 11:27am
lj putting the kid in the pool is one thing. Posting the video in such a way that it was bound to be picked up by surf sites is entirely another. Change lj? No, somethings never change. The surf industry has a long history of pumping up kids expectations prematurely. And yeh, I am mature enough to have watched the cycle several times and know where, all too often, it ends up.
ljkarmaMonday, 6 Nov 2017 at 12:12pm
Ok your comments clarify your position better which we are on the same page re 'pumping up kids expectations prematurely'. There is a litany of wasted surfers who fell short and lost their way.
However that has been the case for ever, ego, hero worship, drugs and misguided belief that they had some 'special' talent that the rest of society could not see was common pre industry $$ sponsorship.
My point is that Shane and Kelly have been responsible for some of the greatest milestones surfing has ever seen and there is no way the kid will be allowed to stray from the tree. he can obviously already surf as is obvious from the approach he takes and Kelly's pool is real and will happen and bring change.
Like it or not surfing is in the olympics and the best surfers of the future will be those who can ride any type of wave thrown at them, be it man made or natural. Kelly has good foresight and his wave and his support for any young surfer would be about as good as a PHD in surfing any kid could aim for.
IMHO the other wave pool and GW thing and the division that has enlivened is a very different story. Each of them are founded on how much revenue they can generate using ridiculous multiples to entice greedy investment without getting close to real wave quality KS pool has demonstrated.
Switchfoot bobSunday, 5 Nov 2017 at 10:45pm
Surely lil Jackson is young enough to give the back hand away n gain another forehand!
Unshackled Neva to be looking over his shoulder..... Always moving forward head held high....
freerider.Monday, 6 Nov 2017 at 4:34am
It seems Slater has created a world of the haves and the have nots, he and his buddies have got it --and you don't
freerider.Monday, 6 Nov 2017 at 4:57am
I'm wondering if they might be ruining this kids future surf life, when he gets back to the real world all he might be thinking about is this wave and the no hassles to surf it, while we, as more mature surfers, 'are thankful' for the ocean, the time we have to put in to score, and for what we have.
Bsm17Monday, 6 Nov 2017 at 8:27am
Why is know one questioning the environmental implications of running these wave pools. Kelly never shone away from his opinion on environmental issues in the past. The king is king I guess. Be interesting to know how must electricity and water these pools consume to create something that already exists in nature. Like Blindboy once commented any environmental credibility Kelly once had is now gone.
Great wave, a necessity? meh
yocalMonday, 6 Nov 2017 at 9:53am
For a grom to get a barrel like that speaks volumes for the benefits of the pool in terms of training for performance surfing. The most important question that went unanswered in the clip: Did he make it out of the barrel?
ambMonday, 6 Nov 2017 at 11:57am
I saw Jackson surf waves (well Shane did push him in) prob 2-3 times this size in Indo and couldnt belive the courage of the kid i reckon he would of made the barrel.
spendaMonday, 6 Nov 2017 at 12:55pm
I get all the arguments and concern. That said I do see advantages of a wave pool if treated as a training aid. For most who began surfing later in life, it takes a couple of decades to properly hard wire manoeuvres into your brain stuff that most kids pick up before they are 10. I reckon some time at a wave pool would have fast tracked that process by years. Who knows how much faster the the current bounds of surfing will be pushed when young talent gets the opportunity to practice in such a wave/time-condensed fashion. Of course it wont teach you how to react to the different subtleties of each and every wave in nature and that for many that is where the real fun and interest lies.
Switchfoot bobMonday, 6 Nov 2017 at 3:05pm
Kelly's pools will be the pinnacle in training, I dare say that Kelly himself will be a switch footer in no time, again he will lead the way as he has done many times before. Once kelly does this the future of surfing will follow most other sports where swapping ur feet will be the norm. Hooray for the King n his accomplices!
BlowinMonday, 6 Nov 2017 at 5:15pm
Kelly surfs switch nicely.
Remember the change of stance mid wave at Padang just as the lip tried to part his hair ?
You're not telling Kelly anything he doesn't already know.
Switchfoot bobMonday, 6 Nov 2017 at 7:54pm
To tell Kelly something is not my goal, to create awareness of a possibility is my goal for the younger generation.
freerider.Monday, 6 Nov 2017 at 11:26pm
As Surfers, we have no kings, we are free. And as far as Slater or any other so called pro is concerned, --"the best waves ever ridden on the planet, by a so called pro or anyone, whether its two feet or 20, will always be the waves you catch and 'ride yourself.'
spendaTuesday, 7 Nov 2017 at 11:49am
Plenty of Far Kings in the surfing world.
inziderTuesday, 7 Nov 2017 at 3:06pm
Switch foot bob
As sure as the sun will come up tomorrow Switchfoot will become the new norm as it has in the sk8 and snow world. If you can't switch tre a ten set on your skatey you probly ain't sponsored same goes for a switch corked 900 on the snow.
I dabble with switch in the surf but it is infinitely harder than skating and snowboarding switch ,both of which I am semi retarded also
stunetTuesday, 7 Nov 2017 at 4:41pm
From Shane Dorian on FB:
"It was a treat to visit the Surf Ranch. I️ was curious like everyone else about what the wave would be like, and was especially excited to see my grom get to ride a few. We all used to draw waves like this on our school folders. I️ definitely don’t envy being Kelly, dealing with everyone you ever met hitting you up to surf it. It is amazing what they have created, and it will be a great day when everyone (especially kids) can experience artificial waves like this. At the same time, nothing compares to riding natural waves. I️ had just as much fun this weekend with my kid and his friends surfing ordinary conditions. There is nothing wrong with wanting to experience something new, but I️ hope it doesn’t stop people from just simply going surfing."
freerider.Tuesday, 7 Nov 2017 at 5:28pm
Ahh, but it doesn't say 'Jackson' had as much fun surfing ordinary waves as he did at the ranch. When you get a taste of something like this at a young age, it seems like it could ruin the rest of your surf experience in the 'real world'.
simbaTuesday, 7 Nov 2017 at 4:43pm
Well said ShaneO
BlowinTuesday, 7 Nov 2017 at 4:46pm
What a champion.
freeride76Tuesday, 7 Nov 2017 at 5:09pm
That was an interesting statement.......a kind of backhanded compliment and warning at the same time.
freerider.Tuesday, 7 Nov 2017 at 6:18pm
Ahh, but it doesn't say 'Jackson' had as much fun surfing ordinary waves as he did at the ranch. When you get a taste of something like this at a young age, it seems like it could ruin the rest of your surf experience in the 'real world'.
Well, it seems like a lot of people have bought into this whole pay to play scam and that they are losing the contentment they once had. I'm stoked I've got the real thing and all the other good beach vibes that go with it. Dirk Ziff (who owns the rights to this wave now) must be loving it.
nogoThursday, 9 Nov 2017 at 1:42pm
A scam lol, how do you work that out hahahaha.......
You and 76 seem too put a lot of effort into telling people what they should and shouldn't do.
Idiots, idiots everywhere.......
nogoThursday, 9 Nov 2017 at 1:42pm
A scam lol, how do you work that out hahahaha.......
You and 76 seem too put a lot of effort into telling people what they should and shouldn't do.
Idiots, idiots everywhere.......
nogoThursday, 9 Nov 2017 at 1:42pm
A scam lol, how do you work that out hahahaha.......
You and 76 seem too put a lot of effort into telling people what they should and shouldn't do.
Idiots, idiots everywhere.......
nogoThursday, 9 Nov 2017 at 1:42pm
A scam lol, how do you work that out hahahaha.......
You and 76 seem too put a lot of effort into telling people what they should and shouldn't do.
Idiots, idiots everywhere.......
Jelly FlaterThursday, 9 Nov 2017 at 9:56am
Great vid of the kid, even better of Shane ... I like how Dorian - with all his experience in all kinds of waves - talks of the challenge of the wave, how fast it is.... Even comparing it to a clean groundswell on a sand point, and his final comment - fun day! This sums it all up;) Amongst the so called 'nausea' and perceived ideas of what it all 'seems' to be, well there is one definite constant... They sure be having fun! Bit strange how anyone could think they could have a gauge on anyone else's contentment? Even stranger that anyone would need to clarify or try reinforce their own supposed contentment by trying to make comparisons?? The 'pay to play scam' is a silly illusionary belief that is born from actual discontentment;) Envy and bitterness of others having fun won't create contentment either. Surfing in whatever environment might contribute somewhat - but if it's real you won't need to point it out coz you wouldn't give a shit how anyone else has their fun -unless of course you're not really having any fun yourself;) Maybe head down to the beach and have a surf instead!! Shane's take is real, he was there... What a lucky fella! And how lucky that lil grom is - the rest of us can only dream, or at least cheer up ay;)
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Little dude is living the wave pool dream, I've got to say before i clicked on the article i thought it was going to be him surfing in the Mentawais from the article pic.
Why do I suddenly feel nauseous?
Now all Kelly needs to do is create one of those pools that supplies waves that are that big for someone who is 6'3" not 3'6".
sadly BB people of mature age often suffer negative responses to the challenges of change and even plain old envy can manifest itself in feelings of nausea sometimes.
Personally, I feel nothing but stoke for a kid who is fortunate to have that chance in life that two very cool people like Kelly and Shane can pass on. JJF is a direct result of that exact form of nurturing and I, for one, am grateful for his contribution to surfing.
Just saying.
I'm wondering if they might be ruining this kids future surf life, when he gets back to the real world, all he might be thinking about is this wave and the no hassles to surf it, (he might never be happy in the real ocean again) while we, as more mature surfers, 'are thankful' for the ocean, the time we have to put in to score, and for what we have.
Pretty sure with Shane Dorian being his Dad, the love for the ocean will remain a powerful drawcard for the young fella. That said, he might grow up from this point forward only wanting to surf in wave pools like your implying. Just can't see it really.........
lj putting the kid in the pool is one thing. Posting the video in such a way that it was bound to be picked up by surf sites is entirely another. Change lj? No, somethings never change. The surf industry has a long history of pumping up kids expectations prematurely. And yeh, I am mature enough to have watched the cycle several times and know where, all too often, it ends up.
Ok your comments clarify your position better which we are on the same page re 'pumping up kids expectations prematurely'. There is a litany of wasted surfers who fell short and lost their way.
However that has been the case for ever, ego, hero worship, drugs and misguided belief that they had some 'special' talent that the rest of society could not see was common pre industry $$ sponsorship.
My point is that Shane and Kelly have been responsible for some of the greatest milestones surfing has ever seen and there is no way the kid will be allowed to stray from the tree. he can obviously already surf as is obvious from the approach he takes and Kelly's pool is real and will happen and bring change.
Like it or not surfing is in the olympics and the best surfers of the future will be those who can ride any type of wave thrown at them, be it man made or natural. Kelly has good foresight and his wave and his support for any young surfer would be about as good as a PHD in surfing any kid could aim for.
IMHO the other wave pool and GW thing and the division that has enlivened is a very different story. Each of them are founded on how much revenue they can generate using ridiculous multiples to entice greedy investment without getting close to real wave quality KS pool has demonstrated.
Surely lil Jackson is young enough to give the back hand away n gain another forehand!
Unshackled Neva to be looking over his shoulder..... Always moving forward head held high....
It seems Slater has created a world of the haves and the have nots, he and his buddies have got it --and you don't
I'm wondering if they might be ruining this kids future surf life, when he gets back to the real world all he might be thinking about is this wave and the no hassles to surf it, while we, as more mature surfers, 'are thankful' for the ocean, the time we have to put in to score, and for what we have.
Why is know one questioning the environmental implications of running these wave pools. Kelly never shone away from his opinion on environmental issues in the past. The king is king I guess. Be interesting to know how must electricity and water these pools consume to create something that already exists in nature. Like Blindboy once commented any environmental credibility Kelly once had is now gone.
Great wave, a necessity? meh
For a grom to get a barrel like that speaks volumes for the benefits of the pool in terms of training for performance surfing. The most important question that went unanswered in the clip: Did he make it out of the barrel?
I saw Jackson surf waves (well Shane did push him in) prob 2-3 times this size in Indo and couldnt belive the courage of the kid i reckon he would of made the barrel.
I get all the arguments and concern. That said I do see advantages of a wave pool if treated as a training aid. For most who began surfing later in life, it takes a couple of decades to properly hard wire manoeuvres into your brain stuff that most kids pick up before they are 10. I reckon some time at a wave pool would have fast tracked that process by years. Who knows how much faster the the current bounds of surfing will be pushed when young talent gets the opportunity to practice in such a wave/time-condensed fashion. Of course it wont teach you how to react to the different subtleties of each and every wave in nature and that for many that is where the real fun and interest lies.
Kelly's pools will be the pinnacle in training, I dare say that Kelly himself will be a switch footer in no time, again he will lead the way as he has done many times before. Once kelly does this the future of surfing will follow most other sports where swapping ur feet will be the norm. Hooray for the King n his accomplices!
Kelly surfs switch nicely.
Remember the change of stance mid wave at Padang just as the lip tried to part his hair ?
You're not telling Kelly anything he doesn't already know.
To tell Kelly something is not my goal, to create awareness of a possibility is my goal for the younger generation.
As Surfers, we have no kings, we are free. And as far as Slater or any other so called pro is concerned, --"the best waves ever ridden on the planet, by a so called pro or anyone, whether its two feet or 20, will always be the waves you catch and 'ride yourself.'
Plenty of Far Kings in the surfing world.
Switch foot bob
As sure as the sun will come up tomorrow Switchfoot will become the new norm as it has in the sk8 and snow world. If you can't switch tre a ten set on your skatey you probly ain't sponsored same goes for a switch corked 900 on the snow.
I dabble with switch in the surf but it is infinitely harder than skating and snowboarding switch ,both of which I am semi retarded also
From Shane Dorian on FB:
"It was a treat to visit the Surf Ranch. I️ was curious like everyone else about what the wave would be like, and was especially excited to see my grom get to ride a few. We all used to draw waves like this on our school folders. I️ definitely don’t envy being Kelly, dealing with everyone you ever met hitting you up to surf it. It is amazing what they have created, and it will be a great day when everyone (especially kids) can experience artificial waves like this. At the same time, nothing compares to riding natural waves. I️ had just as much fun this weekend with my kid and his friends surfing ordinary conditions. There is nothing wrong with wanting to experience something new, but I️ hope it doesn’t stop people from just simply going surfing."
Ahh, but it doesn't say 'Jackson' had as much fun surfing ordinary waves as he did at the ranch. When you get a taste of something like this at a young age, it seems like it could ruin the rest of your surf experience in the 'real world'.
Well said ShaneO
What a champion.
That was an interesting statement.......a kind of backhanded compliment and warning at the same time.
Ahh, but it doesn't say 'Jackson' had as much fun surfing ordinary waves as he did at the ranch. When you get a taste of something like this at a young age, it seems like it could ruin the rest of your surf experience in the 'real world'.
And now the old boy takes a swing...
Well, it seems like a lot of people have bought into this whole pay to play scam and that they are losing the contentment they once had. I'm stoked I've got the real thing and all the other good beach vibes that go with it. Dirk Ziff (who owns the rights to this wave now) must be loving it.
A scam lol, how do you work that out hahahaha.......
You and 76 seem too put a lot of effort into telling people what they should and shouldn't do.
Idiots, idiots everywhere.......
A scam lol, how do you work that out hahahaha.......
You and 76 seem too put a lot of effort into telling people what they should and shouldn't do.
Idiots, idiots everywhere.......
A scam lol, how do you work that out hahahaha.......
You and 76 seem too put a lot of effort into telling people what they should and shouldn't do.
Idiots, idiots everywhere.......
A scam lol, how do you work that out hahahaha.......
You and 76 seem too put a lot of effort into telling people what they should and shouldn't do.
Idiots, idiots everywhere.......
Great vid of the kid, even better of Shane ... I like how Dorian - with all his experience in all kinds of waves - talks of the challenge of the wave, how fast it is.... Even comparing it to a clean groundswell on a sand point, and his final comment - fun day! This sums it all up;) Amongst the so called 'nausea' and perceived ideas of what it all 'seems' to be, well there is one definite constant... They sure be having fun! Bit strange how anyone could think they could have a gauge on anyone else's contentment? Even stranger that anyone would need to clarify or try reinforce their own supposed contentment by trying to make comparisons?? The 'pay to play scam' is a silly illusionary belief that is born from actual discontentment;) Envy and bitterness of others having fun won't create contentment either. Surfing in whatever environment might contribute somewhat - but if it's real you won't need to point it out coz you wouldn't give a shit how anyone else has their fun -unless of course you're not really having any fun yourself;) Maybe head down to the beach and have a surf instead!! Shane's take is real, he was there... What a lucky fella! And how lucky that lil grom is - the rest of us can only dream, or at least cheer up ay;)