John John vs. the hat wearing longboarder - video
John John vs. the hat wearing longboarder in a battle where nobody wins.
Video Tim Bonython's Swell Chasers.
John John vs. the hat wearing longboarder in a battle where nobody wins.
Video Tim Bonython's Swell Chasers.
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Sweet layback.
geezarst christ for a moment there I honestly thought that was my old man...but he doesn't have a deck grip like that and hasn't surfed rainbow for probably 10 years.
I'd love to know what JJF said.
Seriously? Was he actually trying to headbutt Florences board?
And this is why I left Qld lol......
Just watched it again. He does appear to be protecting his board with his head. Maybe the hat is made of titanium . Or his brain is made of play dough .
Are you retarded, this is so stupid, you left QLD because kirra/greenmount/snapper was crowded even though there are waves all throughout the Gold Coast and through the tweed into Northern NSW?
He's not retarded. He's Tasmanian...( honorary ).
I am indeed, blowin hehe... But as I was hanging out my union jack and southern cross flag this morning, I took pride in the fact that I am, you are, we are Australian..... ;)
Now, Sensei, there's only one A in Kato..... What I find interesting is that in your first ever post I've seen on swellnet, you just randomly attack a tongue in cheek joke of the dawgs.... Now, I'm no sherlock, but it doesn't take much to see through this... Same inane writing style...
You need help....
What a waste. I reckon there would be 2000 grommets in Queensland that would give their right testicle to get run over by JJF and he goes and mows down a punter that doesnt even know who he is.
There's no fairness in this world what so ever.
Fucking baby boomers ....is enough never enough ?
I thought you were a baby boomer, blowin........ Always whinging and whining..... ;)
This would be the number one crime committed out there, not getting the fuck out of peoples way or even worse paddling in peoples way. You even get the paddle in your path and yell at you so you don't run them over, this makes me more committed to a risky turn and a passing "What the fuck???".
I must be old school as I was always told to paddle towards the broken section to leave a path for the surfer on the wave even if you get blown to smithereens in knee deep water so old mate can get a tube.
Old blue hat would have honestly thought JJF was at fault.
It's a point break , just paddle round....
Schweet move Mr. Hat ........what do you call that?
I'm with you Seaman, Taken plenty on the head to get out of the way, only to have my next wave interupted #*&^%$# by some idiot trying to make it over the wave on their paddle out
Seaman - I'm totally with you on this. We surf the same spots and by the sounds of it have no real issue with the crowds BUT I cannot fkn handle the rubber necks desperately hoofing for the shoulder to avoid you instead of heading for the foam. Its the paddlers responsibility to get out of the way of the rider and not fk their wave.
Then the ones who desperately try to cut in front of you and half duckdive the sucky section in a way that they lose control of their board and it spears out fins first at your head. Has occured twice to me this year.
I don't know if the "paddle for the foam" rule is on those surf code signs at the beach but I have taken to having words with a few offenders this year and I'm quite happy to run over anyone who wont get out of my way if I am pulling in.
Mk1 you have just hit on my other pet hate the floaters in the take off zone they like deer in headlights!!!!
MOW THEM DOWN!!!
:)
People who don't paddle wide are so annoying.
Especially those that deliberately paddle for the shoulder or pocket to avoid having to take the wave on the chin. If you are potentially in the way paddle for the white water and handle yourself.
At the same time?
While we are on the subject of etiquette, can I suggest a straw poll?
Does everyone agree that first up and riding, prevails over just having the inside?
I feel of late a lot of surfing are giving me on others hard done by faces when I get onto a wave (and I mean standing) well before that person who is up the line.
I've always understood first up and riding to be the rule, which in practice then means having the inside will usually give you the first opportunity to get up. However, often people sit on the wrong side of a peak or wide section and can only get onto the wave well after someone else is already up and riding from further down the line.
I'd be very interested in your thoughts on this.
Seriously too many variables for an easy answer to that.
Call me stupid, but when really critical I indicate where I'm going. Isn't it communication that sets us apart from the other animals? Think mr hat was on the wrong beach, taking that kinda craft out in those conditions (unless he's a an undercover Derek Hynd or Rasta!)
If you're up and riding before the person closest to the peak then you've performed what's known as a shoulder hop drop in on a longboard or SUP. Or you paddle like Jamie Mitchell on crack cocaine.
Either way it's completely unacceptable. I had a long boarder try it the other day - racing over from the shoulder then trying to run me over as he faded into me. He was all wide eyed and innocent when I told him just what I thought of his antics . I'd like to say he learned from the experience, but he already knew that what he was doing was shameful.
Wait your turn and move to the inside.
Do you really have to ask if fading people from the shoulder is OK ?
If only it was that simple!
Surfed spots like Snapper on a good day? There is a steady stream of douche bags who paddle back out and sit inside the main pack, then take off virtually in the foam ball and call people off. Fuck that. I play the "first to your feet" card every time in that scenario.
Hopefully this post doesn't turn into another longboard bashing exercise. This scenario happens with all manner of surf craft at crowded line ups these days. As mentioned previously it's about understanding the etiquette of paddling back out, no matter what your riding. In this instance, Mt Hat, your a kook & pretty lucky you didn't injure yourself or JJF.
I'd be very disappointed if it turned into another blast on longboarders when clearly floppy hat wearers should be copping the heat.
Why oh why would you wear one in the surf? It's totally unfunctional, looks uncool (says I wearing three-quarter length jorts and Teva sandals), and anyway, that's what zink is for.
Down with floppy hat wearers. Run them over!
I had to google both Jorts and Teva sandles.
Tragic .
I hope you copped a good eyeful of the first image that comes up in a Google search of 'jorts' Blowin.
Yes that one.
You'll see it on the inside of your eyelids tonight.
We'll never discuss that image again shall we ?
Try surfing for 3 hours in Bali in your 40s when the top your head looks like a Bert Newton rice paddy and then let us know what you think about floppy hats in the surf. The comb over doesn't always cut it.
Baldness is god's way of telling you that it is time for you to leave. :-)
Tell that to Old Baldy. Those young whippersnappers still haven't got the answers.
Ha!
Yeah, there's an exception to every rule! :-)
They look cool when your getting spat out of solid pit tho...
Always exceptions to the rule :-)
Stu wrote ; "Down with floppy hat wearers. Run them over!"
Boooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! Down with hat -ism!!!!!!!!
We need to run over all the people who think they own the ocean like you ! I surf for happiness not to thrust my short board in peoples faces , Hats are cool .... Stunet is Lame ,, Swellnut,cum
Thats the way 420, you give it to them, how dare they! who do they think they are;)
Sheepio you don't own the ocean.
Just one question Longboarder420, how long is your short board...?
"Hopefully this post doesn't turn into another longboard bashing exercise. This scenario happens with all manner of surf craft at crowded line ups these days"
Well, OK, but by god it is hard to avoid isn't it?
Don't say it, don't say it.!!!!!!!!!!
Appeared there wasnt much body language, so i'm guessing it was a bit of:
JJF - You alright?
LB - Yep.
JJF - Sweet.
No apology from the LB as it appears he has no idea.
No malice from JJF, he comes off as a pretty care free chilled guy.
JJF paddled back out and got another 10-15 crazy wave while LB'er dropped in on one guy then got one other small one in a 2 hr session, Kook.
I thought jj would have made it past him easily, i think he fell off in front of old floppy
It is JJF's fault. He should have been deeper. Then he would have missed Mr Floppy Hat as he would have had time to get over the shoulder. Mr Floppy Hat should have pointed that out to JJF and explained how to surf a barrel deeper.
haha thats good clif;)
I wonder if his new nick name is Mr Floppy Hat now?
If I see him in the surf he will definitely be called that! Well pretty much anyone wearing a floppy hat for that reason.
Don't get me started on being snaked from the late insider or the lets paddle up the facer.....Noosa has seen an explosion of both this year, inside Ti Tree is more like a slalom course these days.
It cuts both ways. Despite the claims about paddling wide or being prepared to take the lip on the head the reality is that it Is quite common to end up having to cross the edge of the bank so that you are potentially in the path of a surfer riding a wave. According to what has been said here it seems to be the expectation that after being caught inside or not making a wave on a point break, you should paddle towards the rocks since any other path will eventually cause you to potentially get in the way of a surfer. Yeh right!
Then there is the issue about what the surfer on the wave is actually going to do. If you are potentially in their path in many circumstances they could go on either side with little to choose between them.
Nah-uh!
Its about getting out of the way of an oncoming surfer. If you can comfortably make the shoulder then no worries. If you have to paddle across the path of the surfer to get to the shoulder your should go behind them to the foam.
You know those times you are heading down the line and someone paddling inside is desperately paddling in the same direction to get out of the way to the shoulder, and you end up running right into each other simply cause they don't wanna duckdive the wave.
All so simple? Don't think so. Duck dive one wave, come up and find yourself potentially in the way of the surfer on the next wave. Or get smashed, come up and by the time you have reeled in your board, there you are again. In poorly sorted swells with a variety of wave sizes things can get complicated...unless you want the whole crowd to wait for that 10 minute set. Idiots going for the shoulder are just one way it can happen but at least in that situation you can usually pick a path around them. It's the one caught inside in the take off zone you are most likely to run over and if that's never been you, you must spend a lot of time waiting.
A few contradictions there BB. Maybe that's what you mean by it all being complicated......
the shoulder paddler! %$@#!
it's pretty easy to keep out of a waveriders way (that can surf) if you're fit and have a bit of surf sense.
if you're not timing a wide paddle around or ducking back to the far inside and then timing your run across the bank you're either one or a combination of: selfish, lazy, unfit, stupid, a learner, a self entitled local, or the surf is a jumbled mess.
yawn
crowded spot / what ever
stay away from WA
BB - just referring to the ones who put an effort into racing the shoulder and end up more in your way because they don't want to face the foam. I know you know these ones. Man, they shit me.
What about the ones who throw their boards away so that they turn side on directly in front of you? The only way to avoid running over the loose board is a bunny hop and I only land about one in ten of them these days. Still it keeps us sharp!
yeah they suck too. good times surfing in the zoo!
I'd hate to agree with BB however in this case he is right, it's contextual I don't expect when it s large anyone to take a lip in the head for my line am I dissapoint yes but some days you just end up in the wrong spot, do anyone think vitriol works more like hey champ when its 2 foot next time try and make it towards the foam... Mk1 ur a retard u can seriously hurt people when you run them over and God forbid knock some beginner out and drown them but hey at least you could justify it to yourself he shoulda known better... Infact I would love to see that as a court defence
Infact I would love to see that as a court defence
"Duuude, I was tots barrelled bro, what do you expect me to do??"
You can tell the surf is shit today angry surfers on the blog boards
Are you angry today pale-rider...?
Old guys with hats should stay away from crowds, particularly crowds including the world's best.
Take it from an old guy in a hat...........
Its snapper rocks, whats new?...
Avoid the place at all costs but for some reason I find myself going back there especially with SE winds. Couple of days ago out at green mount doing the right thing and lining up, being patient for an hour at least (no watch but certainly felt like it) then I was in the right position for the set and took off on my first wave, fast and faded for a barrel then down the line got blatantly dropped in on!
Gave up, wasn't fun and too much attitude going on in the water.
Sunday/Monday? I got a few late sunday at greenie, took a while to get in the grove of it but basically ended up lucking into a spot in the crowd where people weren't really onto the way the sets were lining up. Saw some terrible drop ins.
number 1 rule of surfing;stay out of the way of the wave rider!
number 2 rule of surfing;see rule number 1!
take that to court!judge judy will enforce da law.
this has been written about and argued about forever and probably always will.
The rule is simple(it's a rule not law). THE SURFER RIDING THE WAVE HAS RIGHT OF WAY. SURFERS PADDLING BACK OUT TO THE LINE UP MUST GIVE WAY AT ALL TIMES.
If you want to surf, learn to "duck dive"
I almost forgot. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE SHOULD A SURFER EVER LET GO OF THE BOARD. unless its 20plus
There's a few cute little slabs down here in tassie, mod turtle..... Pretty heavy at 8 to 10 foot.... But I know what you're saying, re letting go of the board....
At these sand bottomed qld points, I can't see why people just don't paddle towards the white water and duck dive... It aint that hard.... In fact, you'll often score an inside frothy grower next wave...... Or the set will be over, and you paddle back out.... At worse ( in cyclone swells)you get swept down the point... Just hop out, walk around, and jump back in....
Some times you will find yourself in the impact zone.... Eg - you don't make a barrel, and you surface, grab your board, swing around, and here's a dude flying down the line straight at you.... The best thing to do is to raise your hand and whistle or hoot - make sure the surfer is totally aware of your position.... Then.... FFS sake don't paddle THAT way then THIS way the THAT way.... A fixed target is way easier for a surfer to surf around then an unpredictable paddler..... Then just as he is coming close, duckdive DEEP..... Get your head and upper back as deep as possible.... if the surfer fucks up, far rather wear a board to the back of the duckdiving leg than the skull....
sheepdog+mod turtle rite on!your comments are so on the money!!100%
people who let go of their board are aka TOSSERS.now sometimes we get put in a heavy situation and a toss is necessary.if u got2 toss make sure nobody is in your firing line...
all groms should read this SN forum.the stuff about paddling in the way vs taking it in the impact zone is superb!eat the soup its surf law....err i meant rule