Fiji Pro 2024: Finals Day

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By Steve Shearer (freeride76)
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Fiji Pro 2024: Finals Day

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Form Guide

Finals day was wrapped on the last dregs of a single swell cycle - while still looking more fun and delectable than just about any other tour stop this year.

World title front-runners JJF and Caity had fled the Islands, no doubt to prepare for the September showdown, whilst eleven-time World Champion Kelly Slater found time called on his career as a pro surfer but opened up the gates to a potential new career as a coach.

His role seemed a little, how to say it, unscripted after caddying for Erin Brooks in her Semi against Molly Picklum. Brooks was asked about his role, and perhaps caught a little off guard, she replied, “I didn't know Kelly was in there”.

Maybe the traditional percentage fee and retainer hasn't been negotiated yet either.

Coach Kelly (WSL/Hughes)

The contrast between God and human efforts was there again today. Winner Brooks said she was “really glad God gave me those waves”, whilst Semi-Finalist Ethan Ewing attributed success to “putting in a lot of time here and building confidence”. Both surfed magnificently.

Erin took out the whole thing by simply outsurfing her opponents, Molly Picklum and Tatiana Weston-Webb. Brooks, on her way to victory, comprehensively outsurfed three of the top five women's surfers in the World. She beat four of the top ten on her way through and apart from a shocker of a first heat, never looked like being beaten in Fiji. Would anyone not have her as red hot favourite if she was competing for the title in Trestles right now?

Like Kanoa Igarashi, Brooks is a completely manufactured pro surfer. Groomed by ambitious parents from day one. And they have followed a perfect template. Skills accelerated in wavepools, tube-riding and charging hollow waves perfected in Indonesia and Hawaii, small wave ripping honed in California. She will arrive on tour next year fully formed, with no weak links. Only her small stature will be an impediment at Sunset, if it is still on tour next year. Snapper, Abu Dhabi, Pipe, Cloudbreak will all be proven strengths. Canadian flag will ensure Olympic selection forever, and God is there to help dial up the waves, if required. This is the perfect pro surfer.

Quick question: Do you think Erin is really a true believer, or is she just parroting the faith she was taught by parents? I guess we will never know, and it's not relevant anyway. In a sport as reliant on fickle fates as surfing it seems of tremendous utility to have a ready made explanation for success (God sent me the wave) or failure (I trust in God's plan) to rely on.

No doubt though, Erin's technique both frontside and backside is superior to every other female surfer on the planet right now bar Caity Simmers.

Erin (WSL/Dunbar)

Griff charged through Medina, Jack Robbo, and Rio Waida to win the comp. He won every minute of those three heats. Won the opening exchange and led from start to finish across an hour and a half of varying conditions at Cloudbreak. That's an impressive achievement for a kid who had no confidence in his backhand up to a couple of years ago. It will remove any talk of an asterisk if he wins the World Title next month ('Aww, he wouldna won if it was at Cloudbreak' type of comment) and improves his odds of backing it up if he does so.

His Semi win against Jack Robbo was a classic. Griff found a way to disrupt the famous zen concentration and composure of Jack. He penetrated the armour of the unflappable Jack - the one with a 4-0 record against JJF, the one with last-minute wins against the Brazilians, and the guy that Slater called the “most clutch” on the CT - by taking the piss out of him. Before the heat he told us he lampooned Jack the way a kid does by copying his exaggerated breathing and arm-waving in front of him.

After the win he told us he added to the comic repertoire by dropping his trousers and mooning him. The West Australian prodigy could have easily fought back. We were told (by Coach Whittaker) that Griff and ensemble travel with “life coaches, spiritual coaches." Jack could have simply squiggled with a finger into an imaginary journal in front of Griff's face while Griff was imitating the breath work.

Alas, not to be. Jack relied on surfing and Griff smoked him.

Griff goes into Finals Day in second spot. He has one potential “warm-up” heat against who ever rises up from the lower bracket before coming in against a cold John John, who we know likes to surf into form.

Jack comes in at third spot, his third consecutive Finals Day appearance. In 2022, from second spot he was defeated by Italo Ferreira. In 2023, from fifth position he was beaten by Joao Chianca. Neither of those heats were competitive.

You'd put money on Griff over Jack any day at Trestles, especially now we have seen Griff detail and execute a proven method for fucking with the famous Robinson composure.

On current form it would seem highly likely Caz and Caity will face off for the title match at Trestles. It would not seem possible that Caz, with one single excellent wave score since Tahiti in May and only a handful of heat totals over 10 could defeat the phenomenal Simmers who has consistently been the best female surfer all year. Therefore, I'm calling a California double with Caity and Griff as our 2024 World Champs.

Rio (WSL/Hughes)

Last word has to go to Rio Waida who is everything the modern pampered entitled pro is not. Rio surfed the best heat of the day against Ethan Ewing, coming from a deep combination to find the biggest wave of the day and rip it to shreds for a high-8, then scrapped a frothy insider off Ethan’s P for the required 6+ score to win.

Grateful, humble, stoked, and still hungry - it was a creditable performance from Rio and a huge filip to Indonesian surfing. 

We'll reconvene in September, I guess, for Finals Day. 

// STEVE SHEARER

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zenagain Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 2:05pm

Great writing capturing the nuance that might often go unseen on the screen.

Is there anything more on the nose though than the term 'manufactured pro surfer'?

Sounds very Chinese.

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Solitude Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 5:39pm

Yeah we discussed this a bit in the comments. There’s an interesting psychology to the cardboard cutout pro surfer and their parents.

Turps commented that: ‘Erin’s Dad retired early to take her around the world full time to chase her dreams’………were they her dreams initially?

Would be now I guess.

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Nate1212 Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 7:51pm

Previously the story was her parents sold their business in Texas and retired to Maui. Which is where Erin learnt to surf. Everything after that for sure was around Erin becoming a pro

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kimbo1 Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 7:26pm

Its good reporting

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nextswell Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 2:11pm

Ah Kelly. Go home to your family mate. Glad Erin won. Appears to have it all going on. Good to see Tati beaten. Her bum out, arms flailing heat wins and now top 5 finish makes me doubt the depth of women’s surfing. It’s hard to watch. Cheers Steve for the read.

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Standingleft Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 2:20pm

"God sees all, and waits"
Steven King.
"Schralp" Rio Wiada
"Cowabunga" Griff goes Bart Simpson ?? That won't work twice, go groundskeeper willy on him Jack.
Ethan's backhand used to be a weakness, its a weapon.
Cloudbreak is excellent even when its not
Onya Steve

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Andrew P Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 6:18pm

Nary a thing in this world can stop a greased up Scotsman

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zenagain Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 8:14pm

Ha ha!

"Then grease me up woman!"

"Okie dokie."

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Andrew P Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 8:58pm

You got it Zen. That’s the episode where Ralph calls skinner’s boss “SuperNintendo Chalmers”

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batfink Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 7:52am

Ha ha ha. Love it, one of my faves. The great thing about having kids is that I got an extra 10 years or so of Simpsons.

Plus they’re good kids, adults now. :-)

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Standingleft Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 3:04pm

Blouse wearing poodle walker
noodle-armed choirboy
Silk-wearing Buttercup
Just a few perfect Willie insults

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tubeshooter Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 5:41pm

haha, you've got me imagining a Fil v Willy heat at big Chopes/Pipe now.
"Croquet playing mint muncher" is one of my favourites.

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Lanky Dean Wednesday, 28 Aug 2024 at 10:23am

@ batfink "back in my day we wore onions on our belts .It was a style at the time"

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Lil Mr. Kelly Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 11:06pm

You tried and you failed miserably kids.....the lesson is, never try

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Nate1212 Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 2:21pm

Loved seeing Caity and Sawyer chair Erin up the beach. Loving this young generation of surfers on the women’s side. And stoked for Rio.

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ocir Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 2:47pm

why question someones faith?
perhaps a lack of ones own?
manufactured? like media as deep as a summer puddle...

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AndyM Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 6:37pm

"why question someones faith?"

Because, especially when looking at professional sportspeople, the psychological processes are fascinating.
Even more so when juxtaposed with those who have other world views.

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bocirl Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 12:52pm

Why not? She's the one bringing it up in the first place.

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monkeyman Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 8:58pm

Oh. Here we go

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Juliang Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 12:10am

Wouldn’t it get a bit religiously confusing if Ramzi Boukhiam , Rio Waida and Gabe were all in the same heat .
And each having their own religious moment on the beach .

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northeasterly Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 9:37am

Yes! This made me laugh out loud.

I've always wondered what god does when the Brazilians are up against each other. They always tell us god is there with them, giving them strength. Does god favour one over the other? Does he add up their sins, then give the best waves to the Brazilian that sinned the least? So many questions.

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fitzroy-21 Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 3:10pm

After seeing Squeek at Snapper and footage of her at Padang etc, I really wanted to see her at this years Chopes CT. She has proven how dangerous she can be at mediocre CB, so I look forward to see how the rest of the womens CT'ers step up next year.
Whilst it wasn't classic CB, it was still an enjoyable comp and good to see it back on the tour.
Thanks for the write ups FR.

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simba Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 3:15pm

Why was Kelly still there when his girl has given him a son recently.....the bloke cant let go ......

and Erin....only saw the final and she's way ahead of the pack ....great to watch , surfs so much faster than the rest......and Rio was awesome against EE.......glad they finished it and didn't wait ......

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Island Bay Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 3:33pm

The new girls are a pretty impressive lot, aye. So good to see.

I'm not taken with Rio's surfing, but he sure seems like a solid bloke. Well done to him. (Btw, why is 'Japan/Japanese' never mentioned?)

And yeah, hard to see John John winning Trestles, and the other Best Surfer in the World won't even be there. It's a fickle business.

Thanks for another great writeup.

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Surfalot67 Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 5:26pm

Great comp and great write up Steve, thank you. Seems the happy clappy takeover is complete, but regardless of the cult Erin rips and I for one can't wait to see her on tour for years to come. Just won't listen to the interviews again. Interesting ploy from Griff on Jack, if that's what got into his head, I'm sure it won't happen again. Reminiscent of Kelly telling AI "I love you man" before their infamous heat at Pipe. That trick only works once and I'm sure on pure surfing, everywhere, Jack has his number

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memlasurf Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 7:17pm

Yes to me that interview was akin to watching a robot AI speak with god thrown in and delivered in a really annoying accent. Give me that little hood rat Caity any day.

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Lil Mr. Kelly Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 11:10pm

Tubes and heavy big water Jack's ahead of Grif...but not that much. Grif can ride the tube but doesn't have the zen eye that Jack has for the best waves and lines. Anything rippable Grif is way ahead of Jack. Better in the air, more radical turns, and more speed. Jack can look really clunky in rippable waves sometimes. Both surfers are fun to watch but it seems like Grif is still improving will Jack has plateued albeit at a very high level.

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3vickers Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 5:38pm

unbelievable how rio came back to get that win - sorry for ee, but talk about never giving up

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lost Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 10:46pm

Was hard not to cheer for him despite being Au to the core

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Tubbabird Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 5:38pm

Anyone else feel Erin Brooks surfs a bit like Ryan Burch?

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Island Bay Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 6:23pm

Good observation. Something about that swinging bottomturn.

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Jesse J Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 8:45am

Got a bit of Mark Richards wounded gull in there too..

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southernraw Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 6:07pm

Super impressed by Erins surfing throughout the comp. As good as she is, there's a whole generation of young rippers coming up beneath her that are going to be nipping at her heels.
Was a sick comp to watch. But please let us never see a one armed one legged wetsuit ever again!
Thanks for the great writeups FR.

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Solitude Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 6:14pm

Really enjoyed that read Steve, thanks mate. I’m not here for the results really, I love hearing you riff pro surfing chat mixed with psychology, philosophy and core surfer observation.

We had one whole event, the penultimate comp in a dream locale. What did we learn and what did it achieve?

Not much really:

The men’s top 5 remained the same except Ethan and Italo traded places, meaning Ethan gets P in their trestles 4v5 match up.

Similarly with the Women, 1-4 exactly as they were, Tati boots Gabriella Bryan for 5th spot.

We learned Ezza B is as locked in as church on Easter Sunday.
Rio is the most down to earth surfer on tour.
We reconfirmed Kelly’s narcissism has no bounds.
And Griff is as funny as a fart in an elevator.

On Griff, I hope he tones down the U-S-A style, home coming king, presidential tour of San Clemente he exposed himself to last year. I believe that and his perpetual claims on 2 foot lefthanders cost him.

Good luck to all and their endeavours to be crowned the ‘most
consistently lucky surfer to ride relatable 3 foot peaks’.

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Andrew P Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 6:21pm

Ahhhh Sol you nailed the summary and sentiment mate! A Cadetship with Steve surely awaits

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 7:35pm

Didn't get to see much of it but with the mimic of stretching & mooning, it seems it's now game on for immature psych-outs in & out of the water, a colourful era dawns, let the prawns in the boardbags begin...

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Nate1212 Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 7:55pm

Great write up from you to solitude.

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Andrew P Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 6:24pm

Way more drugs on the actual tennis tour than this one. See Sinners vs Simmers

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Island Bay Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 6:53pm

That photo of Erin's dad and Kelly is disturbing. Does the former have really saggy man boobs, and is Kelly some weird alien?

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Lil Mr. Kelly Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 11:12pm

Kelly won't go away---it's insane

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Juliang Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 7:00pm

God gave Erin the waves, despite her sinful swim suit?

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BarbB Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 7:30pm

WSL home page is interest. It has highlight clips of Erin & Griffin and Erin (with nice barrel & whippy snaps) looks better than Griffin

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southernraw Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 9:16pm

I'll second that @BarbB. The future is here.

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RockyIsland Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 8:08pm

Jack Robbo hasnt had a lot of Luck lately.
The American Ra Ra Ra hype is really churning my stomach.
No doubt they are all Trumpians.
WSL longboard women just look so much better than WSL women shortboarders

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Island Bay Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 4:47am

No need to bring Trump into it. Americans are generally fiercely patriotic, wary of big govt, and very protective of their freedom. Across the political spectrum.

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memlasurf Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 7:23pm

God bless America!

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Juliang Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 11:39pm

“ Americans are patriotic, wary of big government, and very protective of their freedoms, “
Let’s hope more than half of them are anyway.

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Heeby Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 7:21am

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Heeby Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 8:09am

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Heeby Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 8:23am

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Lil Mr. Kelly Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 11:14pm

Man the hypocrisy!

"Aussie mongrel"

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Le_Reynard Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 8:30pm

Griff's had a solid North Shore game for years now, so no asterisk at all. Not sure he should be throwing stones in the 'mindfulness' glass house but, as you pointed out

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Lil Mr. Kelly Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 11:14pm

His pipe footage is elite. Guy charges for sure.....he's no small wave fil

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tubeshooter Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 9:33pm

I'd imagine Kellys coaching services for the CT would come at a premium.

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lost Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 10:44pm

I’m just gonna put it out there……Kelly should definitely get a wildcard into the final five at Trestles. He can couch all 10
finalists and then the winner face him in the final of finals.

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peabo Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 10:52pm

Found most of this comp kind of dull. Stakes were pretty low and the waves never got particularly good, despite a bit of size coming through.

Biggest take away today was that most CT surfers now have 4-5 months off. Best fucken job in the world.

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Juliang Saturday, 24 Aug 2024 at 11:46pm

Yes I went and mowed the lawn after Robbo and EE went out.
Although it did need it.

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centralscrutinizer Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 12:10am

Last year at Trestles for this generation. Too bad we can't see what could have been its absolute high-performance showdown, hadn't Pip Toledo given up to his mental demons, despite all divine devotion. That's a hell of an asterisk in my book.

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Nate1212 Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 5:35am

Didn’t filipe win both seasons? Ie didn’t need final five to win the title as it was already his. If that was the case he surely doesn’t get an asterisk

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memlasurf Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 7:29pm

No really challenging waves slabby waves either season from memory. Toleado is a tortured soul with an asterisk around his neck.

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Moored Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 12:11am

Griffs word title to lose now. I’m about as far as you can get from a tinfoil hat wearer but the “you can script this” rhetoric is starting to shape up to be a little more prophetic than i originally thought it would be. Hopefully my inherent paranoia is shown up and something incredible happens from JJF or further down the rankings. Some carpark rumours that I heard a while back that sounded batshit crazy at the time have come to fruition. Thanks for the write ups Steve, top shelf as usual.

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Lanky Dean Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 6:20am

do tell re carpark.........

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Lil Mr. Kelly Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 11:16pm

JJF will win the event and I think he will kind of destroy whoever makes it to the final boss

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Nick Gee Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 1:01am

all a bit underwhelming in the end.

shame about the waves, but still, "poor" Cloudbreak is as good as all time Trestles.

shame Rio couldn't pull another rabbit out of the hat in the final. love Griff's surfing and that's all we need to love for now... i reckon he has potential to win us over... see what happens after his second/third title.

and Kelly... ooh boy. it's getting weirder. maybe all his kids are dodging a bullet by having him around as little as possible and limiting parenting to their college funds.

i now watch the comps with the sound down so i manage to miss a lot of the bullshit. i wish someone would do an alternative commentary like Roy & HG used to do for the GF and Origin.

thanks for the artcle (and the comments!).

bring on the finals. can't wait.

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Mexican Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 5:22am

“His role seemed a little, how to say it, unscripted after caddying for Erin Brooks in her Semi against Molly Picklum. Brooks was asked about his role, and perhaps caught a little off guard, she replied, “I didn't know Kelly was in there”.

Ouch. That would be a massive dent to his massive ego.

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juegasiempre Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 7:04am

What's your source on Erin Brooks being a manufactured surfer?

From what I read, her parents sold up in Texas, moved to Maui and then supported her surfing. Wouldn't that just make her parents good parents? Supporting their kid in what they wanted to do?

I don't know why you would push your kid into being a pro surfer growing up in Texas. It's a dead end path for 99.999% of surfers, especially given the hours/travel required.

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Solitude Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 8:41am

When you take your child all around the world at the exclusion of all other things (other interests, school, friends etc) in the pursuit of a single outcome, I’d call that manufactured.

Could be untrue, there are reports of the old man forcing the young girl to stay out for marathon sessions in Indo.

Same could be said about Jack Robbo, the old man taking him across the globe from a very young age.

It’s the new way to become a pro surfer. Effective, probably. Healthy, debatable.

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Juliang Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 10:21am

Or Sierra Kerr , not that there’s anything wrong with that.

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juegasiempre Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 10:28am

I disagree. I've been reading biographies and there's pushy parents and bad childhoods (Andre Agassi, Tiger woods, Kelly Slater) where they achieve success as broken, unhappy adults but then there's kids that are supported, achieve success and are happy healthy adults (Ash Barty is the gold standard example but there's many others).

As for giving up a normal childhood, that's the cost of achieving abnormal success which needs to be made clear to the child (Simone Biles struggled with this).

So unless there's a source to make a claim, I don't think it's fair to chide the parents for doing a good job with their daughter. Good parenting is sadly absent in this day and age and it should be celebrated.

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Nate1212 Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 10:57am

Whatever you think about her upbringing I think it’s great for Erin that there is such a young group of girls on tour, And that they all seem so supportive of one another. It would have been much tougher for Caroline at 15 or 16 or even Bettylou at 16 in a field of predominantly much older competitors

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Solitude Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 3:53pm

‘As for giving up a normal childhood, that's the cost of achieving abnormal success which needs to be made clear to the child (Simone Biles struggled with this).’

So to your point we are talking about a ‘child’. Of whom doesn’t have the maturity or capacity to make decisions such as this.

As such it’s the parents pushing this pathway from a very young age. Surely you can’t deny this?

My arguement is nothing to do with them having fun or ‘succeeding’. It is simply that I don’t feel it is healthy to expose a young human to so much pressure. I’m sure there’s examples where it works out ok, but can think of very many that do not.

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juegasiempre Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 6:52am

I think it's more art than science but from my reading, in nearly 100% of cases the kids really needs to love what they're doing or they're going to grow up resentful, like Andre Agassi and Steffi Graf as someone pointed out, despite their crazy success. I wouldn't want my kids to be on the path to being the best surfer in the world BUT if they did I'd explain to them what's required, get them to read the blueprints to get them there, offer to support them 100% BUT only if they're putting in the work. TC details what that looks like in his book and it's pretty insane. Not 'normal' by any stretch.

I myself have retired to dedicate myself to my kids, like Erin Brooks dad, so maybe I take it personally that he's getting slagged off maybe unfairly. My 3 year old likes to skateboard, I take him nearly every day and people walk by and say, training for the Olympics? Maybe they think I'm a pushy parent but I'm not, I'm just supporting my son in what he loves to do.

I also think given the two females debuting you'd level the charge at Sierra Kerr over Erin Brooks! Literally the daughter of an ex CT surfer! The whole thing reeks of tall poppy syndrome. Unless the author has a source.....

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Juliang Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 6:05pm

Then there’s Andre Agassi and wife Stetffi Graff , both tennis champions, who did everything they could to discourage their children from playing tennis.

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memlasurf Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 7:32pm

Julian Wilson same.

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Lanky Dean Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 1:48am

elaborate

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memlasurf Tuesday, 27 Aug 2024 at 12:40pm

Gromphenom, home schooled, taken around the world, surfed non stop, sponsored seriously at a young age, etc…

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stunet Tuesday, 27 Aug 2024 at 12:59pm

Wasn't homeschooled, he went to Sunshine Beach High. Was definitely a gromphenom, though as a longboarder at first. He was the Australian U14 Longboard Champ. Only moved to shortboarding after that.

His mum and dad were great longboard surfers.

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andy-mac Tuesday, 27 Aug 2024 at 1:37pm

I thought he was Coolum High guy?

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andy-mac Tuesday, 27 Aug 2024 at 2:18pm

Nup, I'm wrong, was Sunshine Excellence Program. Coolum board riders though I believe.

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memlasurf Wednesday, 28 Aug 2024 at 9:22am

Spoke to someone he went to school with him and he said he was never around towards the end as he was travelling all the time and was home schooled.

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Solitude Wednesday, 28 Aug 2024 at 9:27am

Totally mate. To get the rankings / profile to get into better events, these kids are flying all around the country or world. They're never at school. You have also got to be quite well off or very well backed by the industry.

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Juliang Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 11:26pm

Jelena Dokic and John McEnroe , both had issues there , and probably still do.

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surf.rat Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 9:13am

Aren't ALL Pro surfers manufactured? Not a single person is born a Pro-surfer. Every single one of them and their parents made a choice to follow that dream and do what they could to achieve it.
What matters is the pressure of expectations the parents put on their child during this process. In other words, are the parents doing it for their child or for themselves?
I feel only parents that have shown selfishness and a disregard for the well being of their child should be judged harshly. Other parents are just trying to help their child fulfill their dreams and that's an awesome thing.

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freeride76 Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 9:25am

100%.

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Juliang Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 3:50pm

So how does that leave them psychologically if they don’t even make the CT , after years of training for it. ?
There’s a lot of good surfers that don’t make it.

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Lanky Dean Tuesday, 27 Aug 2024 at 1:57pm

Look at kolohe atm
Kids cooked.
......erhhh thanks Dad...
Or set for life ?
I'm not sure what the better option is
I have some friends on the Northshore who has said some un nice things about the florence family re pipe
Forcing your kid to surf no thanks
You get no badge from being a surfer
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Nate1212 Tuesday, 27 Aug 2024 at 4:44pm

I feel like Kolohe is one of the lucky ones. Made bank due to the golden years he was on tour for contracts. But has also found himself a niche or created one with his local 2 percent community. So often once off tour those guys have no sense of what to do with the rest of their lives when it’s not defined by contests anymore. Especially the prodigies who started young and never really had to grind or know another life. Feel like he is doing a good job of it. And encouraging the next generation.

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batfink Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 8:01am

Missed the whole thing. Too pre-occupied at the moment. Glad I didn’t miss epic cloudbreak.

Live comments on the feed during the heats is the best part of pro surfing.

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bbbird Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 7:18pm

Ego a gogo
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8j1qn7
In Olympic competition sailing, it is the total for 4 heats that decides the winner.
Average the comp surfing heats; between the extremes of offshore, cross & onshore waves, tides and sexes; (even Stevens) winner on highest points of surfing wins the title.


The pony club will still get great sponsors

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bbbird Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 7:42pm

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mikehunt207 Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 9:17pm

Why would you want your kid to join the local boardriders club and be a contest surfer? Learn everything wrong about surfing from a bunch of total wankers in most cases.
Maybe that's just here in the south West but looking at these "groomed" pro kids / surfers , now living out what "could have been" for their parents a lot of the time is pretty sad.
Odds are better if you push your kid to play soccer or golf or womens afl if that's your goal as a parent ...

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southernraw Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 9:21pm

Good point MH.
The boardriders club i grew up in encouraged hedonistic and antisocial behaviour well ahead of competitive success.....and we turned out alright!!
Definitely don't remember too much parent involvement.

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bbbird Thursday, 29 Aug 2024 at 10:46pm

Quick wik wakin mushburgers maybe ok for beginners.

Me Inglish teecha had me lern De Jagbawoki. nonsens

"Jabberwocky Poem by Lewis Caroll 1871

‘Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

‘Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!’

He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought—
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.

And as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!"
etc
https://classic-literature.co.uk/lewis-carroll-jabberwocky-poem/
Many species need structure & learn in their society, some then expand ideas, knowedge, skills & evolve.
The search continues....

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Lil Mr. Kelly Sunday, 25 Aug 2024 at 11:19pm

Grif is funny and better than robbo in rippable surf.
Rio is awesome.
EE still looks better than every surfer on tour sometimes
Brooks God act is tired but man she rips
Kelly is a vernerial disease that just won't dissapear

JJF will win trestles and his heats won't be particularly close

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saurusv1 Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 8:21am

The "manufactued surfer" is an interesting topic. I witnessed the evolution of Mark Richards who could fit this category. Mark was an only child whose father Ray owned a surfshop in Newcastle. Mark was mentored from a young age by local surfing legend Robbie Wood (Nick Woods father). Ray would take Mark and a few mates surfing and critique Marks' surfing after every session. Ray purchased a unit at Rianbow Bay in Qld and the family would holiday there at every school holidays giving Mark access to some of the best waves in Australia from a young age. Then to Hawaii where Mark was introduced to some of the worlds best surfers (and shapers) and surfed the best waves Hawaii had to offer. What a way to kick off a career in surfing!

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Lanky Dean Tuesday, 27 Aug 2024 at 2:00pm

Caryard before surfshop.

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bbbird Thursday, 29 Aug 2024 at 9:49pm

Apprentice at Geoff Mccoy's shaping shop & competing for waves with Narrabeen elite surf crew;
before Hawaii & Brewer
https://markrichardssurfboards.com/blogs/news/where-it-all-began

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freeride76 Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 8:49am

Definitely.

There was no implied judgement on parenting by calling Erin a manufactured pro surfer. Quite the contrary. If that is her "destiny" then best to get her as prepared as possible.
I often wonder why more parents/brands/team managers don't get these kids properly prepared for the CT.
Still spins me out people come onto the CT without developed skill sets.

Erin is fully prepared.

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stunet Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 9:27am

I was thinking about this a bit over the weekend - i.e why rookies don't travel to waves ahead of contests to prepare for the near-sudden death of a CT showdown. A memory from webcast watching a few years back pushed itself to front of mind. To wit, a noted coach, still working, saying heat strategies are largely transferable between locations.

Got me wondering about the context: if he was being dismissive of the need for location training. Which may explain why some surfers make the CT without ever having surfed Teahupoo or Cloudbreak, or have a functioning backside barrel technique.

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only-sams Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 9:48am

I get that some surfers (even top level) don't necessarily grow up around hollow waves, but the backside tuberiding thing baffles me. It's also not THAT hard? (in the context of the level that these surfers operate at).

If the average coastal plumber can pack a few nugs at his local beachies it seems inexcusable that a semi-professional isn't up to scratch in anything short of maxing tubes.

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shraz Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 10:40am

Have you tried finding a plumber or sparky living in an area with good waves nearby lately? They are packing more than just a few good nugs around anywhere with a few beach breaks I reckon, ...if they're not in Indo that is!

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Sprout Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 9:44am

"...unparalleled competitive career which continues to unfold today." They still can't say the R word.

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old-dog Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 9:51am

How lucky are these so-called manufactured surfers, when I was a grom parents saw surfing as wasting your life, I had to mow the lawn and wash the car before the old man would reluctantly take me down the coast.
Hopefully Australia will clean up in the finals if Trestles is 6' and we get a Hungry Jack and Pickles on a few whopper burgers.

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zenagain Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 10:33am

It's the WSL old-dog.

No shortage of cheese.

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mpeachy Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 10:40am

Jack and John are both far better in good solid waves, John looks bored when its below four foot. At Trestles, I'd back Griff or Ethan with their smoother surfing.

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truebluebasher Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 6:16pm

RFID Gurl Fleeces 18 to 1 odds to flog Grom Grog & save the WSL fin chopped Turtle Soup Cannery!

Can only see deplorable Winning Streak Lottery with 25% more Teen Drowning & Gaming addiction.
All see everything wrong with Godz Teenie Beer Banner...(Above) tbb feels at odds to comment!
Coz it sets back Women's surfing 50 years & more + any Dad would get their child the hell outta there!

Still don't see it! Ask why only winners wear RFID while rival contestants are stripped bare...Huh?
Free to review why bare boned Steph tapped out long ago & tapped on her sisters.
All saw Steph surf in 2024 WSL SA comp...(Was a WSL J Bay Comp part of her Year off Safari!)
So none ask what's so special about Steph stamping WSL J Bay...Perhaps it's a obligated protest!
https://www.worldsurfleague.com/events/2024/spec/4726/j-bay-classic-pres...

Why Carissa Tanked [1.57]+[0.80] @ WSL fashions in the field hometown North Shore swansong!
Why was this considered her finest hour by true surf fans!
swellnet hodad's salute our champ chiko chix and Tyler's Final's Day raw off the cuff Protest!
Yes Gurlz...we do notice & yer message is getting thru loud'n'clear!...even to us old crew!
We all see & respect what ya all done there to save Surfing's soul...Take a bow Legends!

Again...Why J Bay / G Land are now offline (vs) Kelly's Abu Dhabi / Goldie / Larry's Cloudbanks all Pay Out!
It's the Law you know if not the Banks / Govt will bend over to approve Googly online Gaming credit
Why the new Towers of Power ping their Winners months & years long before they're orchestrated.

Feel free to scour the Planet for the World's most alluring & inviting Sport's Betting Format!
None can touch WSL for guaranteed payouts larger than Wall Street's best pay day.
Only one sport invites CEO's / Judges / Coaches / Caddies to mandate RFID Bookie's Puppetry!
Which number ya want with which tech & who ya want sidelined...too easy!
Get a payout before the Starting hooter...money is in the bank! No sweat!
Can mix'n'match any nation or Team...any number or share pit crews.
Can rig up any dream combo and decode any ya like faster than all them other highly restricted sports rorts.
Bookmakers Dream Tour! Heaven sent it is...roll out a Virgin on an Altar > can even bet on that'n'all... Anything!

Recommend ya get up to speed on WSL EC / AE technicalities of mandated upgrades & Partnerships.
Only one Sport's League on Blue Planet can rig up Tower of Power 8 to 1 then 18 to 1 sure bets.
God will provide WOTD > If yer slave child refuses to lap dance, then the Good Lord must punish them.

Sure, tbb can reenact Huey's Last Wave in with every Blow by Blow maneuver...may soon share that!
Ask the Champs > Kelly / Steph / Carissa / Scaredy Cat why they look as if they're stalling & tanking!

If crew think Abu Dhabi Ranch is on Tour to Kill off Surfing...then ask yerself the only one true Question!
Why then is Kelly's Tank the Only Tour Comp that surfers are not Judged by what they don't Wear!
And why WSL are obliged to exempt at least one last fair Free Ride for the Tour...Is the message any clearer now!

Teaser...tbb will guide the crew thru the ungodly RFID Wild Card Grom Playbook!
Here's the Point of Miracle in slow motion...sharing from WSL Champ's Point Of View! Got it!

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southernraw Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 11:07pm

Spot on TBB. Surfing would have to be the easiest platform for gambling corruption to run rife. No scrutiny and a vague judging system, in a sport run by a non surfer.

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Standingleft Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 8:29pm

"God will provide WOTD > If yer slave child refuses to lap dance, then the Good Lord must punish them."
Biblical

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 27 Aug 2024 at 10:34am

Sorry if tbb can't be more explicit...respect swellnet & crew too much!
Can't share wot tbb really thinks...
Also gotta respect this rude awakening > equally must tribute World Champion Women Surfers.
Hodad Comp crew are no fools & salute our brave Sisters sacrificing their Careers to out WSL scam.
Wholeheartedly openly respect our true Champions sacrifice to save our beloved Sport of Surfing.
All power to Girl Power!

tbb can drop a few subtle hints...
Recall Helmets in 1956 NFL > 78/79/80 Pipe Surfing > 1994 NFL/F1/Motorola Cycle Team
All were regarded as cheating and still are as it's now centre to unsportsmanlike inside Tipping Claims.
Crew may know this now extends to interwoven RFID chips to tip off Fantasy Leagues etc...

2022 WSL extend ASP Rules > but intro 'Official Helmet Gear' > Mandatory Grom Brainwashing
WSL trial several weird'n'whacky Tower of Power Flip Lids to afford Bookies to lock in better odds
Bring on one of our Brainwashed Helmet Gromz...said NOW! Sweating under his collar...Strewth...FU!
Surfing world pretend not to notice Molly's Bookie Bump > WSL 2025 CT will not be left to chance!
Rig up a Leash Drama...Where's Kelly...FFS...Someone's gonna lose an Eyebrow...Sack them all!

2023 WSL Mandate WOTD watches & Queen Steph protests by never once approving the scam.
Check 2023 Chix Finals > See 2 White Watches/1 Black/1 RFID Grom Long Sleeve/1 Bare wrist
tbb believes Tyler aborted her Black RFID Watch to Protest & Salute Steph & Surfing's Future.
Coz to believe WSL deprived her of any chance of winning is a more outlandish rort...(Now standard!)

Sure! All see what played out in what protests since the April Deal > Scoring Protests > Towers > CT
In closing this chapter...crew can ride out with surf sista Carissa's Piped Swansong...
All see WSL Watch Pilot...no names...crew can check! (Check!) Now check the Body Checking...
Stone cold Sober! Not my Surf Sista...Pipe is for the cheats...outta here losers! Check her Coach..FFS!
tbb salutes best ever Head Dip Stall in World Surfing...one for the ages! Gutsy Chiko Chix Maneuver!

Anyhow all see "I'm just a Gurl in Captivity" fluff R1 to ramp up Paddy Power Stakes to 18 to 1
Nope! Sorry...ya can't > Against the Law to access it- tbb's mistake...check Google Search footprint.
Erin wears G string to take yer eyes off her Long Sleeves hiding her RFID WOTD buzzing bracelet.
It's a dignified WSL Super Grom fashion thang...you won't understand...protects their secret identity.
Post heat interviews Erin is exempted a Surfboard...Huh! The sponsorship logo is a red herring...Got it!
Sure...that's an obvious WSL Rule breach showcased on Global Stage...but who's gonna dob Tour Logo!
Be honest...None see her Direct line to God > It's a $5 RFID wrapped 100% tight on her Left Wrist!
R/U Surfs blind with no Rotten Apple...applauding WC God / Grom for bankrolling the 2025 CT.

Feel free to double check Larry's Googly Cloudbank Tower of Power Online Men's final betting scam.
INDO has No online gambling = No Tour Stop so No Rotten Apple for Rio = Locked outta WSL Game!
US has online gambling = Jock's RFID Watch took a licking but kept on ticking to bankroll CT '25 kitty!
GOD rolls out WOTD for his charitable Flock...Lord have Mercy on their Souls!

Sorry if this half blind totally inept dosed up hodad is not up to speed with yer fab mobile tech world!
Possibly ai tbb could decode a helluvalot more...sure, can share more... but heat is on...clock is tickin'.
As said...free to read up on how WSL exploited Covid to mandate sportsbook Fashions in the Field .

PS : Check "Electronic Coaching" + "Approved Equipment"
Tip : Bring up pre > Post Covid > Helmet / app Mandates + 'WSL Tour' > WSL Corp expansion
ELO : "Cross check F1 + NFL " + ISA / Golf Caddies can intermingle & plant any nationality in comps!
As ya say...No boundaries & can shift the Finishing line to any Island or Ocean to own our Blue Planet!
Tech Companies Build the Judge towers & even Sponsor the Coach of the RFID Medalists...shared that!

No boundaries = Whole Blue Planet as yer Dream Tour Tax free Island escape betting Arena.
Every Nation & FIFA / IOC just went all googly & wet their panties!
Gromz thank God for Exotic fifo WOTD on tap...livin' the life on a dream Tour...a blessed miracle!

Now check yer rear view mirrors...all plainly see that Level playing field died the same day as ALT.
Correct...Crew already well & truly screamed aye often & loudly...crew are calling this all along!
https://shop-eat-surf.com/2023/04/world-surf-league-announces-official-m...

Soon as...the whole world called it out & often, then ELO stepped right out of the company...Correct!
Towers of Power Trial 6x Lively fashions in the field >Chosen ones or none (Wait!) Ok! RFID for you too.

Goodvibes : "Pure dope unsportsmanlike power mad child slave exploitation by White Star Line!"
( Goodvibes second coming epiphany was sponsored by a bad case of Grom Stomped Corona...Burp! )

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evosurfer Monday, 26 Aug 2024 at 10:43pm

Good write up entertaining if not a little to much rambling on about god.
Pity it wasnt real cloud break but good entertainment all the same.

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andy-mac Tuesday, 27 Aug 2024 at 12:53pm

Great write up, enjoyed the comp, was really hoping Rio could pull it off by Griffin too good in final.
Met Griff briefly and was a friendly nice bloke so happy for him.
As far as commentary go, reckon team of Steve and Luke Cederman from Raglan Surf Report would do a great job!

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 27 Aug 2024 at 3:30pm

Continuing with tbb sharing to tread carefully about WSL Teen Vice normalization directive!
Crew may be shocked with what tbb is sharing...but tbb is a dad & must be blunt about this!
tbb is likewise shocked by WSL mobsters grooming our surf sistas thru Surf Media.

[Disclaimer] punk tbb was never into Tween Vice, gambling, mobile phones & apps.
Sure : Did everything wrong since but never to exploit innocents!
It's likely the #1 reason tbb can smell out these evil monsters that prey on gurlz!
Raised two teens to keep well clear of Hypocritical God Squad snake oil merchants!

Across town tbb reads...Beachgrit normalizing betting on Child Slaves...
Beach grit WSL Premium Gaming Ad grooming the exploitation of young Girls...

25th Aug 2024 Beach Grit : "I spent most of it drinking, gambling and playing pool, my attention drifting and divided. I'd bet heavily on Sierra Kerr and Erin Brooks, such were the Odds. Some of you no doubt had, too. Some of these Bets are still standing. Many are not. And you hardly need point out the folly of staking so much on two seventeen year old girls, talented as they might be, but untested at this level!"
https://beachgrit.com/2024/08/day-one-of-fiji-pro-cements-john-john-flor...

Daggy Dad tbb is pointing out it is not a folly to exploit two young slave girls as gaming chips!
Please! No one ever trade young girls for any reason...See it, then ya call it out...as here & now!
This was never & never will be up for debate! No one trades minors as slaves or playthings...never!

Like who needs to be told not to bet on inexperienced Chiko Chix...C'mon brothers, never excuse this!
Again tread carefully around WSL grooming gromz for their world domination plot...it's not cool!
Respect yer Surf Sisters young & old...here now & always!
Warning to all surf media... not to buy into WSL teen vice exploitation.
It's not sportsmanlike to exploit young surf sisters...it's diabolical, cowardly & criminal!
Please do not ever place bets on Gromz...motion to rescue these child slaves from WSL.

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Juliang Tuesday, 27 Aug 2024 at 6:31pm

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