Long Range Forecast: Quiksilver Pro G'Land
Quiksilver Pro G'Land - May 28th to June 6th
The question is occasionally asked why Swellnet has a sixteen day forecast. Isn't a swell prediction that far out just fantasy land?
If you live on Australia's East Coast, or indeed any continental east coast, the answer is yes - those regions are too dynamic, too reliant on close-range and fast-moving systems to peer far into the future.
Yet coasts that are exposed to large ocean basins, or extensive Great Circle paths, can receive swells that travel for seven or eight days after they're formed, ostensibly cutting that forecast period in half. Still not entirely accurate, yet better than what first impressions would lead you to believe.
South swells in California fall into that basket, the same with north-west swells running down the points of northern Peru, while for Australians the most obvious region open to long range swells is Indonesia. Following a Great Circle path, Indonesia can receive swells from the central South Atlantic Ocean, 15,000km away, which would take approximately nine days to travel from the source to the reef they break on.
Low tide G'Land (ASC/Hain)
That's the outer limit, with most Indonesian swells forming between the Cape of Good Hope (the southern tip of Africa) and Heard Island. A good example is the low that's coalescing west of the Kerguelen Islands as you read this. Already a significant storm, by tomorrow morning (Friday 20th) the pressure gradient on its western flank will open a deep, broad wind field aimed squarely at Nusa Tengarra.
However, the swell won't reach its destination till late on the 24th, lasting at least three days, which is a five to six day travel time - very typical for Indonesia at this time of year.
Swell lines bending into Grajagan. Notice the swell lines standing up at right of frame, focussing on the Moneytrees section of the reef (Quiksilver/Testemale)
When it hits G'Land it'll provide an incredible warm up for the pros. The swell base will already be high, as it often is at G'Land in May, with 5'-6' waves on Monday the 23rd and the morning of Tuesday the 24th, before the forerunners hit the reef around midday. By close of play on Tuesday, the reef should see 8'-10' of new swell, and with a 1.7m high tide at 3pm the pros will be gorging themselves on Moneytrees.
A short word about the tides:
Though Moneytrees can be surfed through the tides it prefers a higher tide, while the premier section of reef, Speedies, requires a high tide - in fact it needs the highest water possible, generally the full moon or to a lesser extent the new moon. Oddly, the Woz didn't pick a full moon window, instead running it through the May new moon. That falls on May 30th with high water of 2.5m at 9am - doubly oddly, that's before the morning trade wind blows.
A short word about winds:
Though G'Land can be surfed early morning it's infamous for morning sickness and requires the south-east trades to iron out the kinks and wobbles. This usually starts around 10am each day.
Now for the swells that'll hit during the waiting period:
Next Monday, a high near the Kerguelen Islands will butt up against a strong low near the polar ice shelf establishing an impressive pressure gradient aimed largely towards Western Australia with sideband energy striking Indonesia a few days later. The off-kilter strike will be reflected in the size coming in under the height of the previous swell. The organisers can expect the opening day of the waiting period - Saturday the 28th - to begin around 6'-8' feet where it will hover for the next three days, sustained by the broad, slow-moving nature of the wind field.
The first swell to hit within the waiting period will form just east of the Kerguelen Islands, with a large wind field delivering three days of waves
The high tide on both Saturday and Sunday is at 8am - before competition can begin due to no wind - while the low tide is at approximately 2pm. Suffice to say there'll be no Speedies during this swell.
By Tuesday the 31st, and after a long plateau, the swell will be dropping, still in the 5'-6' range but the period will be noticeably shorter and this will effect the waves as much as anything else.
It's also worth flagging the possibility of some funky winds on the Monday and Tuesday as a troughy pattern off north-west Australia threatens to upset the trade flow.
Conditions for the Quiksilver Pro 1997 (Quiksilver)
By Wednesday the 1st the fading swell will be replaced by a new one that, while not spectacular, is worth noting as it comes from the most extreme southerly direction G'Land is capable of receiving. A ridge forming over SW WA will squeeze a short burst of swell northwards, to make landfall during Wednesday the 1st and Thursday the 2nd. It's not a high probability scenario, the ridge is a continental feature, more akin to east coasts, and even if it comes off the period will top out at just 11 seconds of straight south swell.
With a strong possibility of four days already in the bag, and a high octane mix running through the Southern Ocean storm track, the organisers will likely wait for a better day to finish the contest.
As the start date approaches we'll have a better handle on what the back half of the waiting period will deliver, so we'll provide another forecast before the first hooter sounds. Till then, keep abreast of developments in the comments below or click on Swellnet's Grajagan Forecast Page.
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FWIW May and June tide charts here:
Also, below are the score sheets and daily condition breakdowns for the 1995, '96, and '97 Quik Pros at G'land.
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1995:
1996: "Day 6: Swell increase 8-10 feet. Moved down reef to Speedys break. Strong offshore sunny Perfect, grinding barrells.Finished mens round 4"
1997:"June 6th: Glassy early,10 feet "Speedies" for event with 12-15 feet "Kongs" outside."
How was the prize money back then???
Make it all the way to the final, against the best surfers in the world, and you get $7k for your efforts haha!
Hey Stu,,love your articles and this isn't about the forecast.I come out of G land Sunday just gone and was a great time to be there as only handful of pros there.As for the what this G land Pro will do to the break as far as recognition I think the general consensus with all us older generation that have been going there for years was that was that it will bring the masses like WSL exposure has done in the past but maybe with Covid surf explosion maybe more?WSL ,s save the planet-stay green isn't looking good at the moment with the new judging towers/power poles cemented into the reef isn't looking real eco at all.Modern WSL times
Fuck me, can't believe they've done that! Pricks.
I think you’ll find that the highest tides of the month occur a few days after the new moon. Maybe I’m wrong?
“However, a high tide on New Moon is a little bit higher than a high tide on a Full Moon. This is because, on a Full Moon, the Sun and the Moon are on the opposite sides of the Earth whereas on New Moon, both the Sun and the Moon are on the same side and so the combined gravity results in higher tides.“
Our tides are bonkers right now with the Full Moon being a couple of days ago. It was a rippa moon too!!!
1997 - 10 foot Speedies… that’s sounds absolutely terrifying :-0
found some footage
Thanks Stu for the article, will digest later on. It sounds like a wonder of the world.
On Ya VJ for posting the movie, haven't watched all of it yet but am enjoying it so far. Nick Carroll looks very sus while talking 10's.
Rate that, VJ. The intro gave me flashbacks to my dubbed VHS of Quik’s Enjoy The Ride. Mick Campbell, Danny Wills and a young Mick Fanning chasing “sick chicks and filthy pits”
Great vid. 17.01 onwards... White Zombie and MoneyTrees.
Best comp doco vid ever ! Those tunes took me back to some good times !!
Tides are wildly dynamic phenomena in Indonesia, as anyone who has crossed the Lembongan Strait in a small boat can attest.
I'll leave this here and hope Southey might chime in.
Tidal phenomena in the Indonesian seas are among the most complex in the world. Complicated coastal geometries with narrow straits and myriad small islands, rugged bottom topography next to wide shelves of shallow water, and large quantities of tidal power input from the adjoining Indian and Pacific Oceans—all combine to form a complex system of interfering three-dimensional waves. The seas feature multiple amphidromes (points in the sea where there is zero tidal amplitude due to canceling of tidal waves), strong tidal currents, residual circulations, internal waves, and solitons. Diurnal tides are unusually strong and are dominant along some coastlines. The tides are known to affect local mixing and circulation, but the tidal energy available for these processes is not yet reliably determined.
those extreme tides and currents kept the monkeys, tigers and rhinos out of Papua New Guinea & Oz.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Line
That sill and the huge tidal movements create internal gravity waves that can be seen from space..
https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-analysis/2016/12/15/lombok-waves-...
Scardy, Dibble, Silky and Burkey. Thats the legends heat they need out there!
This Chap !
I'd love to see Clay get a wildcard for G-Land.
Me too! He'd slay it.
Mr Natural.
My pick for a wildcard.
Or Bruno Santos
6’3 board with no leggie he’s nuts.
I’d want an 8’0 with a flotation vest ha ha
Yes!
An 8'0 that paddles like a magic carpet, but can be duckdived like a '90s 6'2.
Agreed. Bruninho is amazing anywhere in indo.
Whomever gets the best two waves in each heat, wins.... unless....... the wax melts off their boards?
https://www.worldsurfleague.com/posts/218854/heat-of-the-day-kelly-vs-br...
Dont forget Camel :)
very VERY cool
Either way you cut it, this comp is gonna be epic!
I'm looking forward to seeing the pros out at one of the worlds premier waves.
The big question is- will Tyler go right?
hahahaha Zen. That is brutal.
Will Kanoa Igarashi fulfil his dream of becoming a world champion and entering the womens division as the first professional trans surfer?
Hahahahahahahaha, I actually met the young fella while on a surf trip through Papua New Guinea! He was very grounded and shy and surprisingly very interested in what was going on with koby abberton (he was going through all his shit at the time), he was a decent fella back then, but your comment made me laugh!!
Word is Gabe might be the first Rainbow warrior on the men's CT...
Kano’s got a rashy
*coughs* blocking high ....
How does this area's swells compare to the maldives? Some of the swells are from the same systems?
This area gets way more swell than the Maldives. Not all indo swells hit the Maldives.
Maldives is tucked more into the Madagascar wave shadow. A SW storm really has to form in the right spot for it to hit the Maldives square on, whereas Indo is open to anything.
Also, a lot of swell ridden in the Maldives comes from the SE, a wholly different source than what hits Indo. It's shorter period stuff borne off the SE trade winds that blow through Indonesia.
Gland any tide these guys willI make it sparkle …
Shit they have almost made 1 ft Manly manly ….
Been there once
.. on a mid moon and thought fuck how come no one surfing the morning sesh …
It was pumping…
The arvo frothshore answered that question….
Will be must viewing for surf lovers ..
Reckon I watched that clip of Joel Fitz charging 8ft plus speedies at the end of the Quiky video 10000 times. Unbelievable wave. Can't wait for this one - shame no Owen.
beautiful
Incredible
Those two charge ... great stuff
That second wave at 0:45... How drawn out is that bottom turn
Good thing with the tide choice...won't see anything remotely like that Hobgood video...
Fraser did you take D.S there ?
This is going to be good!!!!!
No Udo it's never had a guernsey....was out there on that Hobgood swell would of being interesting how they would approach it if they had similar conditions...but its not going to happen with the tide situation....Would they take off on the pad or sit on the cobra or sit down the line further...jet ski assist back?Go outside hoop throwers through the whole shebang?
Fraser G, some of the pics I've seen floating around of you on that swell would be equal to if not better and bigger than the rides of the famed Hobgood twins in my opinion.
I haven't been since 2016, it was roughly 1k US for a week including speed boat to joyos
What are the going rates now?
AU$50 a night in the jungle camp overnight bemo trip from kuta last time i went there back in '04.
I heard last year and year before camp was either closed or very quiet and could do deals for rates similar to 20 years ago.
But now with things opening up and a CT pro event about to thrust the surf world's attention squarely back on the place,the rates are probably already back to 2019 rates.
https://g-land.com/
Any word on the format? Hopefully they revert to an ASP-like one. Mathematically the wozzle one with that bore of an elimination rd is impossible to implement. Rd1: 8x3 (winners jump to rd3); Rd 2: 8x2; Rd3 8x2; QF......
Can you imagine how busy G-Land will get after this comp and in ensuing years?
Time to think about another forgotten wave.
Whats Max amount surfers with both camps Full ?
third one now too. About 250 tops
Only downside to this event is the 1st superwave of indo some what forgotten
after all the other discoveries around Indonesia will be well and truly back on
every surfers must do bucket list and for good reason definitely one of the
worlds best most consistent perfect challenging waves on the planet.
Really looking forward to this event.
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Meanwhile at another tropical left, short not long, Pacific not Indian:
Which men’s CT natural footer has the best backhand (barrels excluded)? Rarely see them on pure walling lefts.
JJF if he’s feeling interested?
Or it’s it’s solid and he’s on the right board Slater?
JJF and brothers used to do a good stint out there each year when they were groms. Ripping. Paddling out by themselves on wonky maxed out days for fun. He won't have forgotten.
Imagine being that comfortable in the ocean. Must be an amazing feeling.
I went to Puerto when I was about 25 and the Florence bros arrived a couple of days before a massive swell was due with Danny Fuller and Reef Macintosh.
The bros were all on Stretch guns at the time.
John must of been about 18, Nathan 16 and Ivan 14??
Anyway the day the swell was maxing was like nothing I’d ever seen. They were absolutely fucking charging. Pulling into 20 foot tubes (not exaggerating) and often not making them.
Then just get out of the water and walk up the beach like it’s nothing. I was stunned.
One of the best things I’ve ever seen
Freaks.
Growing up on the North Shore, raised by a gung ho mum, doesn't hurt either.
I don't reckon their mum had much to do with how good they got out in the water on the bomb days.
Or do reckon the pedigree of many other surfers on the north sure out in the water in those swells would have made a world of difference in their younger years though.
Think IB was alluding to the fact that their mum took them to Indo, Mexico, Oz, and probably many other places that had pumping waves when they were very young. Also she probably encouraged them to get out there at places like Pipe because she knew they would be looked out for.
Dunno I'm probably miles off, but that was my take on it....
You were pretty much spot on, gf.
Mom-John was obviously a risk taker, someone who gave things a go, and I'm sure that rubbed off on the boys. She had (has?) gumption.
If it's smaller then not JJF for turns for me. I saw him a couple of years back at the surf ranch and lots of technical flaws for me and always remember that France comp 3 years back where Keanu Asing schooled him in 2 to 3 foot running lefts. Slater is still pretty strong on lefts and turns if he rides a decent board. I wouldn't count Filipe out either for fast running lefts
Slater for me.
Thats a great question Solitude.
Since Cloudbreak was axed in 2017, we haven't really seen any backhand surfing in solid lefts.
didnt last years pipe masters have a couple of solid days where they went left?
Sorry, I mean lefts where they do turns.
Pipe and Chopes test their backside tube riding.
hoping for 8 to 10 feet just to watch the carnage
i know that's cruel but that's why a lot of people are watching for the afternoon low tide speedies run
How is the gland forecast so positive when looking at the Margs forecast for the same period its showing offshores and 3-4 ft one 5 ft day ? That doesnt usually equate to much in the way of waves in the north west or Indo . Is it the pre contest forecast click numbers being driven or are the weather patterns unusual?
Everyone frothing for the world to see Gland again and what is going to essentially ruin the place for those who have enjoyed it being off the radar for so long.
Yeah I'm not seeing any real quality in that forecast. Kongs Klassic
You don't really think that the computer generated surf forecasts are somehow juiced, for clicks?
FWIW, whilst not totally impossible to do, would require hours of manual labour, four times per day (each time the model updates), for almost zero revenue gain.
Clickbait is a terrible business model under any editorial circumstance.
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Someone might surprise. I mean they’re all going to be able to rattle as many reos as they want but are there any sneaky occy level backhand attacks out there?
Griffen or Kolohe perhaps?
Haven’t been to either but interested to hear some opinions. Uluwatu vs G-Land?
Nice cliffs at Ulus. Good view.
That's about all it's got over G'Land.
Only thing Ulus has that g-land doesn’t is Outside Corner
G-Land and it isn't even close. Better wave, heavier and gets more swell
Was actually wondering if anyone's surfed both Cloudbreak and Gland in that classic 8foot plus size and which they rate higher.
I'll say Cloudbreak.
Talking to CJ and Damien in the water out at macking Pad they where completely frothing comparing it to a mix of Cloud break and Restaurants...Cloudbreaks a bucket list for me gotta get there.
Unreal FG. Great insight.
Yep! You'd love it over there.
Forecast looks almost ok, but I’m going to say less than average for Indo standards.
Keep it in ya pants
I reckon Italo has got it in the bag.
Or Callum Robson.
Gabby will also be fired up and hard to beat.
Not that I recall seeing it, but I have a feeling Ethan is gonna have one of the best solid wave backhand turns out of the natural footers.
Good call. He’ll be slick and mechanical. Growing up at Main Beach N. Staddie, he’s no stranger to a left. Robbo will be there abouts too
Backhand Barron...
Hey guys, I'm gunna be in Lakey's at same time as G land pro. Gunna base my forecasts of these. Can I assume that most swells will reach lakey's just a foot or two smaller? Swells from around wa won't really make it to Lakeys?
Just to add to that, I was keen on getting the "Traveller" forecast but apparently you're not doing them atm.
Was there early 2000's late May to mid June was flat for a good two weeks whilst there....like knee high on Moneys stretch...kongs was head high at best...dare say lots of carrying on in the jungle
I arrived just at the end of the flat spell that year...all I heard was whingeing and moaning...grown men on the edge...and then it pumped all month I was there :-)
I've still never seen it under 2-3ft.
I reckon I arrived at the end of that flat spell too. Either 2002/3 ? Got there on the first day of a 6 foot swell that broke the flat spell. Matt Hoy showed up a few days later. He only surfed a few times but man did that guy love to drink.
Same here, never seen a day under 4ft there.
Gabes been in the mentawais for a month, just left my friends new place at thunders...Now on his way to gland.
uh-oh
so does it vary much on swell angles or does not matter?
Whilst I can’t really imagine Gabby losing, I just put $5 each on Connor O’Leary and Nat Young paying $41 and $51 respectively.
It might not be big enough for them to take it out. Really need airs to be negligible in the deciders.
Miggy Pupo is paying $67 and Stuntman Jaddy is paying $101!!!! Stranger things have happened.
I've already told you- it's gonna be an Italo/Robson final with Italo taking the gong.
Indian Ocean and trades look funky from the 25th onwards, not ideal but doesn’t mean there won’t be waves
Just not liking up for all time g land
Water temp's about 29 degrees at the moment, around 2-3 degrees warmer than normal around the East Java region.
Jeez that’s warm.
I’ve been out at g-land is some very chilly (for Indo) water temps.
Ill hedge a wager on Jack Robbo if there is a good sized swell. Toys with Gnarloo
Looking through the slimmed down 24 man field for a tube hound in the right foot forward crew. Has to be Jadson. Is this the moment he's been dragging his sorry arse toward all these years?
Mr Rio is a dangerous wildcard too but wouldn't mind if it ended with Gabs and JJ in the final
I’ve never thought of Jadson as a tube hound.
I just had a look at women. Bronte and Tati the only Goofers.
A walk in the park for Bronte. No one's going to come even close to her if it's solid for the women's. Stoked to see her in the draw.
Looking at the current forecast, it might favour someone like Joanne Defay more. Grew up surfing St Leu on Reunion. Has a lethal backhand in overhead lefthand reefbreaks.
Seem to remember him hounding Rotto for some cover but maybe not. Robbo and Bronte on the podium
Att : Tahlija R....are you up for some Tropical Lefts
Looks like Callum Robson has his work cut out for him in the first round - up against Gabriel Medina and Seth Moniz - 2 fearless tube hounds.
Funky tradewinds. Does that mean air game will be on?
Watching Jack Robbo win the Padang comp from the beach in 2018 was all time. I can’t wait to see him at G land. Also, it sucks Joao Chianca got the chop
I do laugh at the whole oh it is a secret under exposed spot... I have never been there but Quiksilver did it's best to expose it to the masses and endless summer 2 did a fair job too... There's plenty waves in the world... Hope Kelly wins it. And Tyler finally goes left. . I still watch my 1997 quick pro VHS where Luke wins and TC interviews all the players about board choice ... Sooo cool, g-land ..java.. fourteen 10 point rides . Thankyou
Show me who said it’s a secret spot.
You go to G Land yourself?
Exactly dude… Indo, and surfing in Australia (even in the remote parts) has changed from a secrecy complex to a hype complex. Reduce hype, reduce crowds. Increase hype, increase crowds. Rarely are people trying to protect locations these days, just trying to not have everywhere turn into a total circus.
I didn't say it's a secret spot exactly I said secret under exposed spot.... sorry and if you bothered to read the whole post I said I haven't been there... here a bit of the email from swell net today...
"For two decades, Indonesia’s first super wave has been hiding in plain sight, as ever more discoveries were made to the north and east dragging the hordes in those directions. At times, Grajagan has felt like an olde world wave, a once glorious spot now faded as performance levels moved on - think of Makaha or Crescent Head - yet anyone who's surfed Speedies over six feet knows this is an incorrect analogy. It remains as fearsome and technical as any Indonesian wave.
So the seasonal regulars - the true believers of Plengkung - have chuckled as it fell off the radar.
Yet with the Woz announcing a Championship Tour contest, the spotlight again befalls the reef and, as predicated by human psychology, more people will follow, thus ending the ‘quiet’ period at G’Land."
That seems to me like a under exposed spot to me... Sorry dude sweet.. have a good weekend
What’s up with the Long range forecast? Seems stuck or frozen. Or is my computer?
Technical glitch, should be rectified this arvo.
Thanks mate
A lot of surfers i've met in indo think g land is an over rated glorified closeout, probably as they only surfed it in south west swells. Speedies is my second favorite wave in indo when its a big hightide and the swells ssw or straight south.
No arguments there… but all the other “waves” (sections) up top are shit. B or C grade, by indo standards.
So so many questions out of all this.
1. Let me get this straight, they've booked in the G-Land comp on the wrong tides for Speedies?! Money Trees is a reasonably terrible wave that bends away from you and is weird in general.
2. They've booked in the comp early in the season, in a La Nina year no less, when trades are less like to blow... and for less amount of time!? I'm in eastern indo as we speak, and we haven't had a trade wind blow all year. It's still raining, wet, no trades. Which will be disappointing for swell coming here. And disappointing for this G-land comp, which is doing nothing but insta-hype the fuck out of the reopening of Indo (not just g-land but the pro circus been all over the joint, thank fuck they piss off to El Salvador straight after).
3. Ben, Stu, Swellnet leadership... just quietly, I've held my tongue many times on Ninja's point above. Would love to know what you guys are implementing so your paying customers aren't going to be disappointed, and unable to get a proper surf forecast, in the future? Cheers
Fair point (3), BRC. For context:
We've had two forecast outages in the past two years, and they've both been unrelated to our infrastructure (but instead, NOAA feeds). Unfortunately we had no control over this, as was the case with many forecast services.
The current incident is related to our infrastructure, which I detailed the upcoming work in a forum post a few days ago (see here). It all seemed to go smoothly, but yesterday morning we discovered a glitch and have been trying to work it out since (always hard to get techs to solve problems on weekends). So, it's essentially a (virtual) hardware failure - not the result of anything we did at our end, however we are still responsible for its operation. We're working as hard as we can to fix it.
As for what we're doing to combat these kinds of tech issues: normally we don't discuss behind the scenes dev work (for a bunch of commercial reasons) however I'm happy to advise that we've been working on a complete rebuild of the entire forecasting architecture for quite a few months now, and are looking forward to implementing it really soon. The current system was built well over a decade ago, and doesn't have any redundancy in place, however we've (hopefully) addressed all of the known causes of outages/downtime, to ensure a seamless forecast experience.
Feels like you've way over cooked this forecast.
I don't see any 6 - 8 feet waves on the opening day or for the three days after.
Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday before the comp starts look 6 - 8 foot
Forecast actually looks really average for Indo standards.
A long range forecast isn't gonna be pinpoint accurate but it can provide an idea about trends: rough size, timing, duration.
There will be a solid swell hit on or around the opening day. When I wrote the FC, the storm that generates it it was progged to form east of the previous system but in other respects was very similar. Models were calling 6ft-ish, but I hunched it upwards.
It may yet prove to be wrong. In fact, the models have tempered it downwards, more towards 5-6ft, but we'll see. The storm is forming now, deepening tomorrow.
A good test will be how big the Wednesday swell comes in - that'll give a good idea about what we're working with so the specifics can be dialled in.
FWIW there's some very good footy appearing on an otherwise nothing swell. Amazing how good a 4-5ft wave can be when it barrels for 100m.
Stu, but that is/was with a better tide set up and in the arvo though? Based on a glimpse of a Jack Robbo wave.
What are you seeing Burleigh put your forecast up.
4ft opening couple of days. Then 4 or so rest days. Finish in good quality waves in the second half of the waiting period 4 - 6ft max.
bob goblin
Cok’s brother?
Wow yes! Small world. Do we know each other DudeSweetDudeSweet? Are you entering the competition at G Land also? If so we should should meet up and trade Cok stories.
Wow what a classic couple of comments, I can't read them without tears of laughter. If swellnet can crowdfund freeride there for comments surely we can fund a DSDS v bob heat at G-land?
I'm Jungle ready. I have painted flames on my Gath, polarized the visor and waxed my entire body.
A Beautiful morning on the Bukit Stuart.
https://balibelly.com/pages/uluwatu
With a Def Rise in Swell
Small run of surf and mostly offshores after this current front in the south west WA forecast.
I,ve been to Bali / Gland numerous times and if I was about to leave and I was looking at this forecast I,d be very surprised if it is anything but really small for the time period forecast ahead. Spoke to a mate that lives at Ulu and he said its been light onshore and variable winds still, humid and hot and havent had a swell over 6 ft yet (and we have had a couple of soild swells already in WA)
Small light wind Gland ... as for the tides
Please tell me it isn’t true . On your 16 day forecast you have the mentawi 3ft on the 4th of June which is the day I arrive, then it has 4 days as flat ? Please please tell me it isn’t true
Strong swell on the Bukit this morn..
Sets well over 12 ft on Bukit atm - G- land must be farkn Smoking
really? Got any proof?
Cams dont / cant lie
Ive been watching the same Cam. That's not OC breaking and its no way near 12ft.
Still a very solid and powerful swell and yes Gland will be on the cook later today.
What are we looking at then? I can't tell from the warungs and the camera doesn't say which section it's looking at.
You reckon that's the Peak, with surfers coming from left of frame riding down from Temples?
I think it's Inside Corner, OC little cousin.
The 'inside' corner is the Racetrack and I'm not sure it breaks out that far.
Anyway, how nice does a solid clean swell with clean water look. very jealous of anyone in Indo right now
You don't like admitting you're wrong do ya Burleigh?
Nah, its not OC. its Breaking inside OC, hence it being Inside Corner. Genuine OC needs a much bigger swell. It's also not 12ft.
It's not racetracks which is a completely different section of the reef.
Check the surfline cam.
But it sure looks to be pumping in Indo right now.
That bloke that called the Biggest ever Tow only Ulu [2018 ?] swell pushing 40ft is a kOOk
Im at ulus. Solid 10 foot sets easy at bomby running into outside peak last 2 days. OC not breaking properly cause its neap tides.
Thanks for the confirmation! Swell filled in bigger than I thought ( I was prediction 8ft) but you confirmed what I was saying yesterday.
Not genuine OC and not 12ft with plenty of images and video to back this up.
I didnt say it was O.C.
if Italo F said yesterday was 6ft at Ulu..ill stick with 12 ft plus today on the big wide ones .
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Waiting for your Conspiracy Angle that its footage from last year and not Live...
Looks like oc is breaking on Bali belly cam.
I can’t tell if anyone is out though, the quality isn’t great. What cam do you look at udo?
Yeh BB one..been watching most of morning
Saw 2 guys try paddle out -Sweep got them and so did 10 set waves...on the head
Fook knows where they ended up...shame the Cam doesn't Pan.
edit- and another just getting swept toward Padang ..at a high rate of knots
Terrible quality on BB.com but I just watched someone catch one at OC - plus there was the odd person coming into view at the end of the Peak.
Hard to put a number on it but the tide is high and it's breaking so it's gotta be in the 10-12 ft range, which is what was expected towards the end of the day. Be interesting to see if the size plateaus out (swell just running early) or keeps building.
Surfline , free cam of the day is ulus
Nice lines ,saw a guy on a shortboard doing heaps turns 12 ft.... maybe if your from sydney
Let’s ask the big questions :
Porridge or fruit for breakfast at G Land?
Banana honey pancake; kopi susu tidak gula; sampoerna. Breakfast of champions - and me.
Both.
Just got word with the warmer than normal SST's thanks to the - IOD that trades aren't coming up around the Sumbawa region..
Hey mate, I asked up above about how I could compare these G land forecasts to Lakey peak as I will be there at the same time. SE swells a couple of foot smaller and S swells not really wrapping in?
We were keen to get a traveller forecast but I see you guys are no longer doing them.
A quick heads up would be epic, thanks!
Yeah swells would be a couple of feet smaller with anything from the SW and smaller again out of the S'th for sure.
Sorry, I meant SW.
Awesome, cheers!
Interesting. Ps settle down boys: caveat ; the Bukit IS 12 ft ATM...on the southside. Undeniably double head high@g-land. Thats contestable,yeh?
https://www.grajaganchronicles.com/
Live streaming of the freesurf today??
A couple at Padang on the cams and ulus seemed to sort itself out as the day wore on
T.C. will be there @Bobbys
Jim Banks started today on a 7'0
Ended the day on a 9'0....Both Twin Keels.
Explains why that Rio Waida fella is pretty keen on getting on a plane asap outta Sydney...
I’m in the Ments at the moment. Huge at the exposed parts of the coast.
Winds a bit weird on Bali last week. Didn’t seem to be trade winds yet. Light winds mainly. Sometimes onshore during the day on the Bukit.
Looks like weak trades first couple of days with a broad low off the Pilbara coast drawing in a flukier N'ly flow early next week across central Indo.
Then some light/variable days before trades again towards end of the week.
https://instagram.com/stories/miguelpuposurf/2844995900807796229?utm_sou...
Looks like the WSL have installed a tower on the reef. Shameful. Of course they will continue with their usual greenwashing. I wonder if they will strategically try to hide the tower from the broadcast.
when i was there in the early naughties the concrete pilons from the old structure were still visible (if you happened to be walking over the right part of the reef), and barely 30cm x 30cm x 4. Hopefully they just used them for the new tower.
Unless your some sort of surf webcam super hero you cant really tell the actual size
of the waves at Uluwatu the angle, placement and clarity make it a real guessament
of size. I watched on youtube some very large waves from yesterday and it was
of some size.
As for G-Land Im in shock that possibly the most most consistent wave in the world this
time of year looks like its not going to be over 6ft. What a disappointment.
Jaddie says...today the best surfing day of my life
Christ I’m glad I’m not on Instagram.
Doesn’t it do your head in being fed a constant stream of Hollywood moments from the filter glamourised lives of thousands of strangers? It’s like the tip of the spear for the worst parts of humanity: ugly self promotion, glorification of vanity and cynically crafted dishonesty.
Let alone the relentless stream of cnts blowing up places just for their two seconds of cyber glory?
What a fucken shit show.
100% in agreement
As for building a tower on a reef in a national park , onya wsl fuckwits, can you get any worse?
Fkn cop that udo!
Reckon you’re over-thinking it blowy
I reckon that’s a mental photo.
It is mental. What a moment.
How about balancing it up with some negatives DSDS?
Goof ..i love a gd pic ...of anything not just Surfing- Craigs new ones are unbelievable shots
In my youth it was buying a glossy mag to see them- A lot Different these Days eh
They poured some more Concrete very recently on the Gland Reef for the Tower.
Not having a go at you Udo. I’m genuinely bewildered how anyone can put themselves through the head fuck off perpetual hype, personal branding activity and FOMO for likes rubbish. I love a photo too and that one of Jaddy is a cracker, just got me at a point of saturation of the ceaseless HYPE train.
The Kardashification of the world can eat a bag of dicks.
G Land !
G Land !!!!
G Land!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The same waves broke in the same manner for the past 50,000 years but now we are witnessing the consolidation as intellect property of Quiksilver.
Think you need to chill out and consider how blessed you are.
Like my mate Kalani here, who took a lonely stroll up the hill this morning.
:-)
The Bronzed Aussies were too far ahead of their time. If they launched that rubbish these days they’d be getting high fives and lauded as marketing geniuses instead of rightfully being labelled wankers as they were back in the day.
Old mate above looks so detached from the here and now. So lost in the moment. Not.
Hello forecasting Gurus! Any update on the opening day of G-Land? 4-6ft and clean?
4ft+ i don't believe it will get to a genuine 6ft but thats open to interpretation.
As freeride and others have pointed out, winds will be more variable than trade.
Such a shame no real solid swell is forecast from what i can see.
Yeah, we're working on an FC, though it probably won't be posted till tomorrow as it'll forecast right through the waiting period.
Reckon 6ft will be the upper end of the scale for the first swell - which hits on opening day. The tides aren't kind on those first two days, and unfortunately it appears there's not a great deal happening in the back half of the period.
Stay tuned...
Jack settling in nicely (vid third slide)
https://stabmag.com/news/wsl-tells-ct-surfers-to-elect-special-committee...
Seems strange. Woz got more tricks in store?
I'd be asking straight out 'WHY LESS WOMEN THAN MEN'?
Please let it be ABT (anyone but Tyler).
Solid 6 - 8ft at Gland yesterday from looking at the media trickling through.
That Jadson photo looks to be a bit bigger but I would say not too many of those ones.
I’m sticking with 4ft for the opening day.
There's not too many dud heats in rd 1 ...definatley watching heat 2 if there is size....I wonder if either Sam and Miguel are in first and holding priority and the other needs a score will they "help a brother out"
New swells for the weekend should peaky around 4-5ft+. Will have update tomorrow,
Large one from yesterday
let me know if im posting to many links...?
Imagine rolling up to that Bill Morris shot. You would be freaking out seeing that with no one out!
I wouldn't under estimate the wonk / mix of smaller swell from that Trough off WA playing with conditions through the next week . Lack of trades to groom what smaller swell is coming in , less period and more south spells bad news from my very short glance of the charts this coming week .
Everyone hating on Money's is a bit rich , I've had a longer barrel on the inside ledge of Moneys than anything at Speedies . Having said that i've never had speedies running right down towards chickens and 2020's .
On previous discussion , Cloudbreak all day every day and twice on Sundays for quality at various sizes . BUT G Land way more consistant .
I've probably asked this favour before, but could one of you good G-Land savvy people enlighten me on the different sections and the tide/size/direction that make them work?
I know that in broad terms there's Kongs, Moneytrees, Launching Pad roll-in into Speedies, then Chickens.
But what about The Ledge, Fan Palms, Fang, etc etc.
I.e, do the waves stand up on the MT Ledge at some specific size/tide? Does the Launching Pad always pop up and prevent you from going straight from MT to Speedies?
Cheers
I’d be keen to hear this from someone who has it dialled.
I think I have a basic read on it but would love someone to break it down who really knows
Go on, gf. Give it your best shot. Nobody knows everything - we're all standing on the shoulders of giants.
John Shortis by Peter Morrisson.
Yeah it's an ad, commercial fodder, but for good or ill the repeated appearance left a deeper imprint than most images.
Always wondered what the path is from that spot to get to the lineup - is it a matter of walk straight out and paddle through in a lull? Or walk up to the left side and paddle behind the takeoff spot? Or walk to the right and then paddle up the line? All 3 sound like a mission when it's solid.
When I was there I just walked straight out. Some people did that, others walked up the point to the left a bit into I think a semi break in the reef, then paddled out.
There's a semi-keyhole between the end of Kongs and the start of Moneytrees. Nice walk up the beach, pretty easy access to the reef assuming all goes well.
Paddling out through speedies on a large swell and mid to small hightides is deadly, especially if its a consistent swell without lulls. i once paddled out there on a six foot speedies day with a few bodyboarders and was the only person to make it out, i duckdived on almost dry reef with the lip just landing on my back and was in the clear.
I then got one set wave and it raced on past me but was the best wave i got all day, even though the swell was ssw i almost scraped my face off on the dry reef...definitely needs a bigger full or new moon hightide even if the swells south...Further north of speedies is the reef called quicksilvers where it rarely breaks, maybe twice a year and you can paddle out there but it will take a while to get to the lineup.
If surfing moneytrees or kongs use the keyhole at the end of kongs, if surfing the ledge which breaks on six to eight ft plus days and lowtides you can paddle out from the lowtide reef at the end of the wave in a lull or from kongs keyhole.
One of the things i learnt from Camel was on big days paddle wide and way further out than where its breaking, there is no current or sweep out there. On big days sometimes the sweep or current where its breaking is relentless and tire you out if you're paddling a long way back after a wave.
So will the pros have jetski assist at G-Land then?
Considering there are only a few easy paddle out spots and a sweep, i think there will be jetski assist.
Surely not, just get out there early before ya heat.
Good looking board, too.
Shaping Co ?
From back on it reminds me of a DHD that I have, shaped around 94 I think, 6'6"x 17 3/4 x 2 1/4 channel bottom swallow tail...the tail is so thin I still dont know how its in one piece. the biggest difference to the one above is rocker...bent like a banana
From memory it was a 6'1", biggest board he had, and he struggled to paddle in.
Really testing my memory here, might be way off the mark. I'll visit the Colorbond Library shortly and get the answer.
@stunet Far out that brings back some memories. Had that poster on my wall for years until I managed to replace it with a photo of my own. Too many years since I managed to get to G-Land... sigh.
At this stage the best swell and conditions arrives 1 day after the waiting period - June 7.
G-land - Lavertys Left.
https://www.baliwaves.com/2022/05/bali-surf-weather-report-uluwatu-to-ke...
So accounting for tides. Thoughts running on mid arvo our time Saturday?
All weekend really haha.
Yep should do.
Disappointing the forecast isn't a bit better. Was pretty excited for this one. Hopefully it's not too bad.
I have never paddled out too old and delicate lazy or all three thats why
I stay at Joyos they boat you out. Great place to stay anyway I certainly
canrt complain they look after you like your royalty.
And the ladies as staff in the bar are pretty hot.. I promised one young hotty at jojos bar i will sneak her into Australia in my board bag...shes like"no i will die"...haha anyway i like jojos better than bobbies as i mostly surf speedies chickens and twenty twenties when the swells right and big..twenty twenties is so under rated on a huge swell..i think the food is a lot better these days too and even the cheap packages staying there have twenty four hours of electricity and air con.Never got a boat out to the breaks though.